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Posted by Herman
 - May 18, 2026, 10:01:58 PM
Conman Carney flew to Calgary to sign an agreement with Alberta Premier Danielle Smith. Here are the details you need to know about:

The industrial carbon tax, which is the hidden carbon tax on Canadian businesses, will significantly increase.

The carbon tax currently costs $40/tonne in Alberta. It will increase to $130/tonne by 2040. Carney said the higher carbon tax rates will apply across Canada.

In exchange for higher carbon taxes, Carney said the federal government might approve a pipeline to the west coast.

Here's what we know for sure from this agreement: Carbon tax hikes are guaranteed. A new pipeline is a maybe.
Posted by Herman
 - May 18, 2026, 06:56:29 PM
This fake deal between Conman Carney and Smith will never get shovels in the ground and Smith knows that. Chug chiefs and Eby still have a veto. The tanker ban is still in place. The carbon sucking machine and Carney's industrial carbon tax will add $15 in costs to every barrel produced. This is about aappeasing the soft independence vote.

Nah, come see Alberta when they are a republic. If that doesn't happen big companies should take their investment dollars to Venezuela. Canada under the Liberals is closed for business.
Posted by DKG
 - May 18, 2026, 03:03:54 PM
Among provinces in the federation, only Alberta must go through the humiliating ritual of grovelling and negotiating with the federal government to develop its industries and export its products. Ontario's premier doesn't have to beg for permission to expand automotive manufacturing, nor does Quebec have to snivel if it wants to expand a maple syrup plantation. Alberta, however, is reduced to having to offer concessions to be allowed to do what every other oil-producing jurisdiction on the planet does without hesitation.

There is little indication that the federal government has any interest in allowing Alberta to expand its resource production and export infrastructure. Carney has talked and talked and talked for over a year now, and we aren't an inch closer to getting something done than we were a year ago. Premier Danielle Smith keeps setting deadlines, and they keep passing. Now, Smith is celebrating that she and Carney have more officially entrenched the MOU they created long ago, but what does that mean?

Has Carney repealed the "No More Pipelines Act," which has stalled development in Alberta for years?

Has Carney repealed the tanker ban on the West Coast despite tankers constantly docking in Eastern Canadian ports?

Has Carney retracted his assertion that indigenous consent will be required to get projects constructed?

Has Carney retracted his assertion that provincial permission must be attained by BC or Quebec to get pipelines constructed?

Unless all of these things have been done, nothing of note will be expanding in Alberta. Canada is uncompetitive on the world market and will remain so until the government chooses to get out of the damn way.

No pipeline has ever been talked into the ground, but Carney and Smith appear determined to try that method.

According to an RBC report, over a trillion dollars in potential investment has already fled Canada in the last decade, and most of that was potential oil and gas investment. The conditions causing that capital flight haven't been addressed, thus the flight will only continue.

If Mark Carney truly wants to see these projects done, he can say so any time. He can declare these projects to be in the national interest and that he will use his constitutional authority to get them done. He won't do that, though. He just offers mealy-mouthed promises and more negotiations. His Major Projects Office was created almost a year ago with the ostensible goal of fast-tracking approvals. So far, it hasn't approved a single project. I think we can safely call that initiative a failure. It is an office of false hopes and continued deferral. Nothing more. And it appears to be that way by design.

Carney pretends the holdup is with a lack of interest from private investors, but that's an outright lie. Private companies desperately want to produce and export more oil and gas while world energy prices spike. They have made no secret of what's holding them up.

Cenovus CEO Jon McKenzie called Canada's energy policies "myopically focused on the climate agenda," arguing they have made "resource development and investment in the country uncompetitive with the rest of the world."
Posted by Herman
 - May 15, 2026, 07:16:34 PM
This aint happening Danielle. You made a deal with the devil. Chugs and BC can block this. All you doing is making sure investment goes to your province because you agreed to massively hiking Conman's suicidal industrial carbon tax.

The federal and Alberta governments have unveiled a sweeping new energy agreement that includes a target date of September 1, 2027 for construction approval on a BC coast oil pipeline designed to move more than one million barrels of Alberta oil per day to Asian markets.

The agreement, announced Friday in Calgary by Prime Minister Mark Carney and Alberta Premier Danielle Smith, also commits both governments to major changes in the industrial carbon tax system, electricity policy, environmental approvals, and federal regulations affecting Alberta's energy sector.

Under the deal, Alberta will submit a formal proposal for the pipeline to the federal Major Projects Office by July 1, 2026, with Ottawa pledging to pursue "project of national interest" designation by Oct. 1, 2026.

Here are the key dates:

October 1, 2026: Designation of a pipeline as in the national interest of the country.
September 1, 2027: The earliest construction date for the start of the pipeline.
The pipeline should be completed by 2034.
Smith said the agreement demonstrates Alberta and Ottawa are serious about building major infrastructure and expanding global market access for Canadian energy.

"Alberta is ready to build, invest, and partner, but we cannot afford to lose another decade," Smith said in a statement.
Posted by Herman
 - May 15, 2026, 07:13:08 PM
Independence can free the prairies from Justine-appointed judges.
Posted by DKG
 - May 14, 2026, 09:43:20 AM
Quote from: Herman on May 13, 2026, 06:29:40 PM
I don't understand this. The petition followed the law that was passed by the provincial government. A few Aboriginal Chiefs should not be able to override the legal democratic process.

But, my understanding it this does not necessarily stop an independence vote. The Alberta government can still call an independence vote. They can justify saying it meets a certain threshold that they set.

I don't want Alberta to leave. The rest of Canada will not survive losing our most productive province. But I get their frustrations.
Posted by Herman
 - May 13, 2026, 07:53:19 PM
Danielle Smith says Cabinet will soon decide whether to use its authority to put an independence question on the Oct. 19 referendum ballot.
Posted by Herman
 - May 13, 2026, 06:29:40 PM
Posted by Herman
 - May 13, 2026, 06:26:11 PM
Danielle Smith calls the court decision blocking independence "incorrect & undemocratic" and says the Alberta government will appeal it.
Posted by Herman
 - May 13, 2026, 06:02:43 PM
A judge is trying to DENY Albertans the right to vote on independence.

Justice Shaina Leonard quashed an Alberta independence petition, citing an incorrect interpretation of legislation, a failure to follow previous court rulings, and a lack of Crown consultation.

Leonard's decision squashes the Alberta's Chief Electoral Officer's decision to issue Mitch Sylvestre a second's issuance of Stay Free Alberta's independence petition.

Leonard made the ruling following a judicial review of the CEO's decision on a request from the Athabasca Chipewyan First Nation and the Blackfoot Confederacy.

Several Alberta First Nations had argued Alberta's referendum process and its use by idenpendence advocates are unconstitutional, as there's no requirement for indigenous consultation.

Their lawyers claimed separation would violate treaty rights.

Lawyers for the province defended the process and pushed for the separatist petition to play out.

Premier Danielle Smith has said if the petition got enough signatures, the group's question would be put on a ballot this fall.

Yet, this judge just threw out the independence referendum petition on the grounds that it violates the "duty to consult."
Posted by Herman
 - May 12, 2026, 11:33:49 PM
We are now awaiting the start of the official verification phase, which will determine whether the referendum question proceeds to a province-wide vote in October 2026. The months ahead will be critical as Albertans continue building momentum, raising awareness, and preparing for what could become one of the most important democratic moments in our province's history.
Posted by Herman
 - May 12, 2026, 07:41:02 PM

Norway left Sweden and built sovereign wealth. Slovakia and Czech Republic split and both thrived. Ireland broke free and became a tech and finance hub. Singapore with nothing became one of the world's richest nations.

Alberta has $14 trillion dollars in proven oil and gas reserves. A 400 billion dollar economy. More GDP than 150 countries.

The argument that Alberta can't do what dozens of others have done is unsupported by reality.

Since 1990, over 30 new nations have emerged. Independence isn't rare. It's a historical normality.
Posted by DKG
 - May 12, 2026, 09:35:06 AM
Quote from: Herman on May 11, 2026, 10:37:21 PM
We in central Canada do not understand this statement.
Posted by Herman
 - May 11, 2026, 10:37:21 PM
Posted by Herman
 - May 11, 2026, 07:36:53 PM