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[quote author=Anonymous link=msg=356289 date=1586146739]
<r>It can be no surprise that the virus will spread quicker than a prostitutes legs in places like New York City...  People packed in like rats at all times.  While New York City is certainly an interesting place with much history, I'm not convinced people are meant to live like that.

Reminds me of this mouse study:

<I><s>[i]</s><B><s>[b]</s>In the early 1960s, the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) acquired property in a rural area outside Poolesville, Maryland. The facility that was built on this property housed several research projects, including those headed by Calhoun. It was here that his most famous experiment, the mouse universe, was created.  In July 1968, four pairs of mice were introduced into the habitat. The habitat was a 9-foot (2.7 m) square metal pen with 4.5-foot-high (1.4 m) sides. Each side had four groups of four vertical, wire mesh "tunnels." The "tunnels" gave access to nesting boxes, food hoppers, and water dispensers. There was no shortage of food or water or nesting material. There were no predators. The only adversity was the limit on space.

Initially, the population grew rapidly, doubling every 55 days. The population reached 620 by day 315, after which the population growth dropped markedly, doubling only every 145 days. The last surviving birth was on day 600, bringing the total population to a mere 2200 mice, even though the experiment setup allowed for as many as 3840 mice in terms of nesting space. This period between day 315 and day 600 saw a breakdown in social structure and in normal social behavior. Among the aberrations in behavior were the following: expulsion of young before weaning was complete, wounding of young, increase in homosexual behavior, inability of dominant males to maintain the defense of their territory and females, aggressive behavior of females, passivity of non-dominant males with increased attacks on each other which were not defended against.

After day 600, the social breakdown continued and the population declined toward extinction. During this period females ceased to reproduce. Their male counterparts withdrew completely, never engaging in courtship or fighting and only engaging in tasks that were essential to their health. They ate, drank, slept, and groomed themselves – all solitary pursuits. Sleek, healthy coats and an absence of scars characterized these males. They were dubbed "the beautiful ones." Breeding never resumed and behavior patterns were permanently changed.

The conclusions drawn from this experiment were that when all available space is taken and all social roles filled, competition and the stresses experienced by the individuals will result in a total breakdown in complex social behaviors, ultimately resulting in the demise of the population.<e>[/b]</e></B><e>[/i]</e></I></r>
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Posted by Anonymous

- April 06, 2020, 12:23:14 AM

It sure doesn't help when you have dickheads like Tom Perez encouraging democrats to go out to vote a demented old fart as the front runner on the ticket "because must beat Trump".

Posted by Anonymous

- April 06, 2020, 12:18:59 AM

It can be no surprise that the virus will spread quicker than a prostitutes legs in places like New York City... People packed in like rats at all times. While New York City is certainly an interesting place with much history, I'm not convinced people are meant to live like that.

Reminds me of this mouse study:

In the early 1960s, the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) acquired property in a rural area outside Poolesville, Maryland. The facility that was built on this property housed several research projects, including those headed by Calhoun. It was here that his most famous experiment, the mouse universe, was created. In July 1968, four pairs of mice were introduced into the habitat. The habitat was a 9-foot (2.7 m) square metal pen with 4.5-foot-high (1.4 m) sides. Each side had four groups of four vertical, wire mesh "tunnels." The "tunnels" gave access to nesting boxes, food hoppers, and water dispensers. There was no shortage of food or water or nesting material. There were no predators. The only adversity was the limit on space.

Initially, the population grew rapidly, doubling every 55 days. The population reached 620 by day 315, after which the population growth dropped markedly, doubling only every 145 days. The last surviving birth was on day 600, bringing the total population to a mere 2200 mice, even though the experiment setup allowed for as many as 3840 mice in terms of nesting space. This period between day 315 and day 600 saw a breakdown in social structure and in normal social behavior. Among the aberrations in behavior were the following: expulsion of young before weaning was complete, wounding of young, increase in homosexual behavior, inability of dominant males to maintain the defense of their territory and females, aggressive behavior of females, passivity of non-dominant males with increased attacks on each other which were not defended against.

After day 600, the social breakdown continued and the population declined toward extinction. During this period females ceased to reproduce. Their male counterparts withdrew completely, never engaging in courtship or fighting and only engaging in tasks that were essential to their health. They ate, drank, slept, and groomed themselves – all solitary pursuits. Sleek, healthy coats and an absence of scars characterized these males. They were dubbed "the beautiful ones." Breeding never resumed and behavior patterns were permanently changed.

The conclusions drawn from this experiment were that when all available space is taken and all social roles filled, competition and the stresses experienced by the individuals will result in a total breakdown in complex social behaviors, ultimately resulting in the demise of the population.

Posted by Anonymous

- April 05, 2020, 08:22:02 PM

.....as this Globe and Mail columnist, Lawrence Martin, seems to:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-canadas-handling-of-the-pandemic-so-far-is-putting-the-us-to-shame/">https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion ... -to-shame/">https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-canadas-handling-of-the-pandemic-so-far-is-putting-the-us-to-shame/

Its a very unfortunate situation down South and one can point fingers all too easily.

As much as I don't like Trump, the coronavirus pandemic itself is not his fault.

And the primary reason Canada may not have been hit nearly as hard as the USA is that we have 10x fewer the people & far more open spaces available to get away from the virus.

So Canada has been lucky because these buffers have protected us.

Covid is attracted to high population densities & this has not been favorable a country with a large population like the United States.