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Quote from: "Guest"It makes sense they would. The only "cure" for the pandemic that's been prescribed turned out to be worse than the pandemic itself. I find it a little ironic that we can hold China in the light we do, yet give our own leaders get a free pass for dropkicking the whole shitshow into the toilet and legislating the rest of us to jump in after it.

There will be more people dying due to unemployment than from coronavirus if governments in North America don't allow people to go back to work soon..



I'm unimpressed with the way North America and Europe have responded to this pandemic..



But, don't get me wrong, it's entirely China's fault.

Quote from: "seoulbro"And here is how that might work.



Antibody testing can help open the economy and get us working again



The Food and Drug Administration has, with historic rapidity, approved an antibody test for home use. It will soon be mass produced, giving medical workers an entirely new set of data on the pandemic. Despite a perplexing degree of baseless pessimism in the media, antibody testing could finally provide the blueprint for getting Americans working again if we can safely confirm that immunity to the coronavirus works as expected.

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Quote from: "Guest"It makes sense they would. The only "cure" for the pandemic that's been prescribed turned out to be worse than the pandemic itself. I find it a little ironic that we can hold China in the light we do, yet give our own leaders get a free pass for dropkicking the whole shitshow into the toilet and legislating the rest of us to jump in after it.

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Quote from: "Fashionista"The medical community has been consistently wrong about this..



Epidemiologists in several Western countries said the spread was contained as late as the last week in February..



The CDC, WHO and United Stated Surgeon General Dr Jerome Adams told us a little more than a week ago that masks could cause more harm than good, and now we know it's not true.

I don't believe East Asia has done that great of a job.  China has a second wave of infections going on.



Please cite the Western epidemiologists that said this was resolved in February.  I don't recall seeing this anywhere, well except from Trump here in the US.



The reasons that there is lack of clarity on masks is because you have to factor in human behavior.   Most infections are caused by the virus you bring in on your hands by touching parts of your face.   A mask can't change that.



And the virus can live up to 7 days on a reused mask.   Good luck with that.



I think it's too early to start saying who is doing what better.  One good suggestion though, end the proximity of humans and exotic/wild animals.  There is no need for it.  Most human diseases have been caused by human and animal proximity.



That would be an excellent start.

I meant the wealthy democracies like Taiwan, South Korea and Singapore, not China..



I don't believe anything from Chinese authorities..



Those three East Asian countries have kept their economies open and used technology and targeted isolations as have been used throughout history instead of mass lockdowns and unemployment like Western countries..



Chief public health officer Theresa Tam and her deputy Howard Njoo assured the public as late as Feb. 26, when Njoo testified at the Commons standing committee on health that: "We have contained the virus."

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Quote from: "Oak"

Quote from: "Fashionista"The medical community has been consistently wrong about this..



Epidemiologists in several Western countries said the spread was contained as late as the last week in February..



The CDC, WHO and United Stated Surgeon General Dr Jerome Adams told us a little more than a week ago that masks could cause more harm than good, and now we know it's not true.

I don't believe East Asia has done that great of a job.  China has a second wave of infections going on.



Please cite the Western epidemiologists that said this was resolved in February.  I don't recall seeing this anywhere, well except from Trump here in the US.



The reasons that there is lack of clarity on masks is because you have to factor in human behavior.   Most infections are caused by the virus you bring in on your hands by touching parts of your face.   A mask can't change that.



And the virus can live up to 7 days on a reused mask.   Good luck with that.



I think it's too early to start saying who is doing what better.  One good suggestion though, end the proximity of humans and exotic/wild animals.  There is no need for it.  Most human diseases have been caused by human and animal proximity.



That would be an excellent start.

I meant the wealthy democracies like Taiwan, South Korea and Singapore, not China..



I don't believe anything from Chinese authorities..



Those three East Asian countries have kept their economies open and used technology and targeted isolations as have been used throughout history instead of mass lockdowns and unemployment like Western countries..



Chief public health officer Theresa Tam and her deputy Howard Njoo assured the public as late as Feb. 26, when Njoo testified at the Commons standing committee on health that: "We have contained the virus."

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Quote from: "Fashionista"The medical community has been consistently wrong about this..



Epidemiologists in several Western countries said the spread was contained as late as the last week in February..



The CDC, WHO and United Stated Surgeon General Dr Jerome Adams told us a little more than a week ago that masks could cause more harm than good, and now we know it's not true.

I don't believe East Asia has done that great of a job.  China has a second wave of infections going on.



Please cite the Western epidemiologists that said this was resolved in February.  I don't recall seeing this anywhere, well except from Trump here in the US.



The reasons that there is lack of clarity on masks is because you have to factor in human behavior.   Most infections are caused by the virus you bring in on your hands by touching parts of your face.   A mask can't change that.



And the virus can live up to 7 days on a reused mask.   Good luck with that.



I think it's too early to start saying who is doing what better.  One good suggestion though, end the proximity of humans and exotic/wild animals.  There is no need for it.  Most human diseases have been caused by human and animal proximity.



That would be an excellent start.

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Quote from: "Guest"Yeah, and to think we're letting them tell us what's good for us in all other things.



The French solution seems to be an option worth exploring. Amputate their heads and they might stop wasting our air with their garbage.

I was in Taiwan at the end of January and the first two weeks of February..



Masks were required in public..



Until a week ago The CDC, WHO and the Surgeon General were advising not to wear them.

Quote from: "Fashionista"The medical community has been consistently wrong about this..



Epidemiologists in several Western countries said the spread was contained as late as the last week in February..



The CDC, WHO and United Stated Surgeon General Dr Jerome Adams told us a little more than a week ago that masks could cause more harm than good, and now we know it's not true.

Quote from: "Guest"Yeah, and to think we're letting them tell us what's good for us in all other things.



The French solution seems to be an option worth exploring. Amputate their heads and they might stop wasting our air with their garbage.