SMF - Just Installed!
Quote from: Herman post_id=426012 time=1635983297 user_id=1689Quote from: cc post_id=426008 time=1635979953 user_id=88Quote from: Bricktop post_id=426007 time=1635978090 user_id=1560
Although my rather drawn out post paints a less than rosy prediction of where we are heading, it was intended less as fortune telling and more as a prod for discussion.
Personally I am ambivalent about the future. I would not dare gamble on any outcome.
What I can say with absolute conviction is that during my time on the planet I've never experienced a time when we've been so fractured, hostile to our neighbours, bound by ideology and in the grip of buffoons masked as politicians.
I also firmly believe that the status quo is unsustainable. The trajectory we're on takes us down the path I've described unless some form of intervention occurs.
I note that you focus your reply on America. Whilst America is the hotspot of the western nations, the disease of dissent is not limited to them. These times are unprecedented in recent memory.
It is NOT beyond reason that the only way forward is for you to choose which extremism you will join in order to survive. We are not there yet, but if you accept that the current chaos cannot continue, what are you going to do to avert catastrophe?
If we confront the true elephant in civiliisations house, not climate change but social disharmony, pretending its not happening is a dangerous apathy.
Good post. My concerns completely .. the extent .. the lack of ability to change things short of great upheaval exactly
It's not going to get better .. it will get worse
You damned right it will get worse. Only some jobs will be allowed. If you work you will keep less than half of your earnings. Everything you do or want to do will be regulated or denied by government. I feel bad for my son and granddaughter.
Quote from: cc post_id=426008 time=1635979953 user_id=88Quote from: Bricktop post_id=426007 time=1635978090 user_id=1560
Although my rather drawn out post paints a less than rosy prediction of where we are heading, it was intended less as fortune telling and more as a prod for discussion.
Personally I am ambivalent about the future. I would not dare gamble on any outcome.
What I can say with absolute conviction is that during my time on the planet I've never experienced a time when we've been so fractured, hostile to our neighbours, bound by ideology and in the grip of buffoons masked as politicians.
I also firmly believe that the status quo is unsustainable. The trajectory we're on takes us down the path I've described unless some form of intervention occurs.
I note that you focus your reply on America. Whilst America is the hotspot of the western nations, the disease of dissent is not limited to them. These times are unprecedented in recent memory.
It is NOT beyond reason that the only way forward is for you to choose which extremism you will join in order to survive. We are not there yet, but if you accept that the current chaos cannot continue, what are you going to do to avert catastrophe?
If we confront the true elephant in civiliisations house, not climate change but social disharmony, pretending its not happening is a dangerous apathy.
Good post. My concerns completely .. the extent .. the lack of ability to change things short of great upheaval exactly
It's not going to get better .. it will get worse
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=426010 time=1635982029 user_id=1560
Even ol' Vlad seems to see the problem with distinct clarity (if you watch the video, please don't judge all Australians sense of style on the gentleman from Adelaide). In the interests of full disclosure, Sky News Australia is our version of Fox News America. The ABC, on the other hand, is a typical left wing public broadcaster.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRFkbZE7OjQ">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRFkbZE7OjQ
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=426007 time=1635978090 user_id=1560
Although my rather drawn out post paints a less than rosy prediction of where we are heading, it was intended less as fortune telling and more as a prod for discussion.
Personally I am ambivalent about the future. I would not dare gamble on any outcome.
What I can say with absolute conviction is that during my time on the planet I've never experienced a time when we've been so fractured, hostile to our neighbours, bound by ideology and in the grip of buffoons masked as politicians.
I also firmly believe that the status quo is unsustainable. The trajectory we're on takes us down the path I've described unless some form of intervention occurs.
I note that you focus your reply on America. Whilst America is the hotspot of the western nations, the disease of dissent is not limited to them. These times are unprecedented in recent memory.
It is NOT beyond reason that the only way forward is for you to choose which extremism you will join in order to survive. We are not there yet, but if you accept that the current chaos cannot continue, what are you going to do to avert catastrophe?
If we confront the true elephant in civiliisations house, not climate change but social disharmony, pretending its not happening is a dangerous apathy.
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=425991 time=1635954051 user_id=114
I can't agree with BT's pessimism. Our options are not two straightjacket ideologies. Americans need to stick to the spirit and the letter of the law of their constitution. Power hungry extremists are always trying to get around it.
Let freedom reign.
Quote from: SCOUSE post_id=425998 time=1635967738 user_id=1728
^^Doesn't even know what day it is.
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=425991 time=1635954051 user_id=114
I can't agree with BT's pessimism. Our options are not two straightjacket ideologies. Americans need to stick to the spirit and the letter of the law of their constitution. Power hungry extremists are always trying to get around it.
Let freedom reign.
Quote from: "1 Kw = 3413 Btuh" post_id=425894 time=1635882039Quote from: SCOUSE post_id=425590 time=1635621752 user_id=1728
This is either CC or Shen Li. What happened? Forgot your log in details?
I notice you use the term "discredited" as opposed to disproven, very convenient.
You see, modern academia, particularly in the west, has been compromised and infiltrated since at least the 1950's with Communists, Marxists, liberals and all manner of other left-leaning, anti-Nationalist, anti-white vermin, who have worked tirelessly to surpress information and slander anyone who dares to defy the official anti-Hitler narrative of WW2.
This is the reason why a revisionist movement started, because the truth was branded anti-Semtic by the mainstream historians and any form of dissent was stamped out.
So in other words you have no proof that your opponents sources are false. All you have is your internet based, Nazi, education to back up your claims....It's the Joooooos suppressing the truth....again.
Yes, yes, we have all heard this from you before but where is the truth of this assertion. Where are the facts that history has been subverted by a vast Jewish anti-white conspiracy which is such a well hidden and coordinated conspiracy that only uneducated, simple minded, neo nazi scholars like you can recognize it?
"Revisionist movement"??? What revisionist movement would that be? In your case, it appears to be nothing more than a bowel "movement" that produces turds of a different color.
Quote from: "7.83 Hz" post_id=425611 time=1635664261Quote from: SCOUSE post_id=425597 time=1635627345 user_id=1728
"Nazism" is essentially just Nationalism, but it has been slandered and demonised by the ruling elite, who adhere to Globalism.
Are you happy for your country to descend into third world chaos and lose it's white majority status?
Nationalism did have a part to play in Nazism, but you might also consider the marriage of state and production at the expense of the individual. At least such was the case in Germany in the mid 30s to mid 40's, hence "National Socialism" from which the term Nazism is derived. Given the individual's rights were abrogated and interfered with to such an extent so that the marriage of business and state might flourish (an arguable necessity in the aftermath of the Treaty of Versailles and the near two decade long fiscal war waged on Germany by the British and the French particularly) a certain level of authoritarianism was necessary.
I do find it ironic that the exact same socialist hallmarks are present in Globalism today and I put it to you that its key proponents are dark on Nazism in large part because thesocialismthat was being practiced at the time benefit a froup other than their own. They cannot call out the Nazis on a too granular level for the othering of certain races and creeds, nor the medical experimentation practiced in internment camps, nor the propagandizing or cesorship, nor the expensionalism or indeed the outright abrogation of individual rights. These are all common ground for the German Nazis and the Globalists, something the Globalists know full well and would like very much to be kept as hush-hush as possible.
That leaves Nationalism, the belief in and devotion to the interests or culture of a specific nation or state and the ideal that it benefits from acting independently rather than collectively. That's anathema to Globalism right there - the goons overseeing the entire Globalism agenda (many of them German and German-adjacent, go figure) are pissed that they were not the ones who stood to benefit under the Nazi regime any more than they were under Trump's, but if they can shuffle all the nationalist movements into the one tent and call the contents Bad Mojo, then throwing the odd socialism failure in on top of the pile (you know, the really egregious socialistic fuckups) then it stands a better chance of giving them the excuse to repeat said fuckups for their own benefit. They are after all not National Socialiists, they are Democratic Socialists, right? Right.
Most lefties don't get it. Mimsy (much as I liked her as a person and a moderator) sure as fuck didn't, which is why you see her blithely following in the footsteps of the German citizenry of the late 1930s. She genuinely believes she is doing the right thing, but then so did they. You at least I believe through past experience are a little more receptive to the discussion. I don't demonize Nazism out of hand, the nationalism component is something I agree with or I wouldn't have found favour in it when Trump sought to "Make America Great Again. But I will find fault in Nazism for its socialist component. That shit caused a lot of pain and misery - so much so my grandparents fought a war against it. The same pain and misery that is being wheeled out now under the Globalism banner. I cherish individualism over collectivism myself, but to each their own.
As for Kiebers, I can't speak for him of course, I just get the impression he doesnt like you very much. It happens.ac_biggrin
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=425609 time=1635646645 user_id=1560
Allow me to put a different slant on this shouting and screaming match taking us nowhere.
From my reading of the various posts from people of all backgrounds and race, the consensus of the membership here is that things are Very Fucking Broken in our "Western", white, democratic countries.
We are fragmented, combative, disillusioned and concerned for the future. At the core of this dissolution of what was a relatively tranquil era a breakdown of unity is the attempt by many disparate groups to change the way we live, and want to live. The moderate, placid majority are just being swept along by noisy, militant and ideological minorities ranging from race to sexual preference, with little or no true control of the destiny of their society.
This cannot be sustained.
Now, I'm no Nazi and I've never met a Jew I didn't like. But we all need to take a deep breath and think about how to get out of this mess...because as Germany, Spain and Italy proved in the early 20th century, the exasperation of the desperate opens the door to tyranny. And tyranny is always ready and waiting.
If a group emerged with credibility and reason that offered resolution to the distress we are experiencing, how much tyranny are you prepared to accept in order for peace to be restored? Because this is the direction we are heading. Extremism is the new language of white society (not only white society of course). Will it take one form of extremism to combat another as history has shown?
How extreme are you prepared to become?Critical Race Theory or White supremacy. Take your pick. That is the path we're on.
Quote from: kiebers post_id=425616 time=1635694445 user_id=193Quote from: "7.83 Hz" post_id=425611 time=1635664261
As for Kiebers, I can't speak for him of course, I just get the impression he doesnt like you very much. It happens.ac_biggrin
Nah, not really. I like him fine. This time all I did was ask about the guest posting comment, not politics.ac_biggrin
He provides entertainment. I'm definitely not above giving him a hard time, but I do that to everyone at some point in time. Humor after all.
Quote from: "Berry Sweet" post_id=425950 time=1635911187 user_id=164Quote from: Herman post_id=425918 time=1635899963 user_id=1689
Old Scouse is a harmless kid trapped inside a forty five year old body. But I doubt anybody on these forums would have much to do with him in real life. There just aint any common interests. Don't get me wrong, the nazi fantasy thing is his business. But I don't see many grown ups being interested in if for more than ten minutes.
Kinda makes me think of this...I dunno why..
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