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Posted by Herman
 - December 22, 2023, 11:10:46 PM
Larry Elder wrote this.


Trump an 'insurrectionist' but Hillary was exercising free speech

The "insurrectionist" clause of the United States' 14th Amendment says, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."

Enacted after the Civil War and ratified by the states in 1868, Congress wanted to prevent officeholders who joined the Confederacy from holding office.

Four of the seven Democrat-appointed Colorado Supreme Court justices ruled this clause prevents former president Donald Trump from appearing on that state's primary ballot. The Michigan Court of Appeals rejected this argument and the Minnesota Supreme Court dismissed a similar lawsuit. However several more states have pending lawsuits based on the insurrection clause.

Despite Democrats having appointed all seven Colorado Supreme Court justices, three dissented. Trump vowed to appeal the case to the U.S. Supreme Court. It is practically a foregone conclusion the Colorado case will be overturned and the Supreme Court's ruling could even be unanimous. Also, note that while Trump faces three federal conspiracy counts and one count of obstructing an official proceeding, the special counsel DID NOT charge the former president with "insurrection."

In its 200-page majority decision, the Colorado Supreme Court said that on Jan. 6, Trump told supporters to "walk down to the Capitol" and "fight like hell" and "take back our country." Not mentioned is that Trump also said, "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the capital building to peacefully and patriotically. Make your voices heard."

The Colorado court found "substantial evidence" that Trump was "laying the groundwork for a claim that the election was rigged" before the November 2020 election and before the Jan. 6 riot. But does not Trump, or for that matter, any politician have a First Amendment right to complain, however unjustifiably, about the integrity of an election?

Hillary Clinton frequently called the 2016 election "stolen" and president Trump "illegitimate." Never mind that former president Barack Obama's Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson testified there was no evidence the Russians succeeded in changing a single vote tally. As to the effect of the Russian interference, Johnson said there was no way of knowing whether it affected public opinion or altered the election. But Democrats believe otherwise. A 2018 YouGov poll found 66% of Democrats believe the Russians, to elect Trump, changed vote tallies. A 2018 Gallup poll found 78% of Democrats believe Russian interference "changed the outcome of the election." But the media do not call Democrats "election deniers."

In its 200-page majority decision, the Colorado Supreme Court said that on Jan. 6, Trump told supporters to "walk down to the Capitol" and "fight like hell" and "take back our country." Not mentioned is that Trump also said, "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the capital building to peacefully and patriotically. Make your voices heard."

The Colorado court found "substantial evidence" that Trump was "laying the groundwork for a claim that the election was rigged" before the November 2020 election and before the Jan. 6 riot. But does not Trump, or for that matter, any politician have a First Amendment right to complain, however unjustifiably, about the integrity of an election?

Finally, the anti-Trump media accuses Trump of peddling "the Big Lie" about 2020 voter fraud, irregularities or illegality. After all, there is supposedly no evidence to justify the assertions. John Eastman, a former Trump lawyer who argued that state legislatures and Vice-President Mike Pence possess the legal authority to reject certification, now faces disbarment. The California Bar Association asked this once-respected and courtly former dean and law professor at Chapman University School of Law for evidence about 2020 election-altering widespread fraud. Eastman turned in over 80,000 pages of documents. In an hour-long speech available for viewing on Rumble, Eastman spoke in detail about just some of what he considered substantial election irregularities. It's called "Taking a Stand Against a Weaponized Justice System."

I urge the most ardent believer in the "Trump-promoted baseless conspiracy theories" narrative to watch the speech. Be prepared for discomfort.
Posted by Herman
 - December 22, 2023, 10:48:54 PM
I aint got anything to add to Trump's victory speech. But, with each abuse of the law, it is becoming more obvious that Trump will return to the White House.
Posted by Reggie Essent
 - December 22, 2023, 10:11:05 PM
One my first day in office, I will secure the border and remove the Biden era shackles placed on our energy sector.  That will be before lunch.  After lunch, I will fire the entire Department of Justice and disband the weaponized and politicized FBI.  After dinner, if I still feel like working and I always do, I will order the elimination of the Department of Education.

We'll take care of the rest of the Swamp the next day.
Posted by Frood
 - December 22, 2023, 08:38:14 AM
"I'd like for all of us to recite an old Negro Spiritual tune that praised God... Swing Low, Sweet Chariot... coming to carry me home...(on Air Force 1)."

Posted by Oliver the Second
 - December 22, 2023, 08:37:27 AM
Keep it short and sweet

Posted by Biggie Smiles
 - December 22, 2023, 08:32:23 AM
On the 4th day of Christmas my true TDS losers gave to me.

1 moronic ruling, 2 stupid state attorneys .......
Posted by Frood
 - December 22, 2023, 08:27:53 AM
I'd also like to thank God and the founding fathers who channeled the core beliefs of an ethical and moral society.

God God GOD GOD, the big guy... the great guy. We talk almost daily. He's made an investment in me and I'm expecting to give back dividends, with your love and support, even if he and I disagree about whether Hillary is homosapien or one of those lizard people in a mask like Sleepy Joe.

Have you seen his earlobes? Wow... wow... they change quicker than a Jeffrey Epstein  flight manifest to LOLA... Lolita Island. And Jack Smith...what a loser. Total crybaby, yeah, out of his depth

Posted by Biggie Smiles
 - December 22, 2023, 08:15:57 AM
Each of us should throw in some choice sentences - paragraphs - whatever to be aggregated into one cohesive speech Trump can provide to the American Public when his 2nd term is confirmed

I'll start


I'd like to take a moment to thank all the TDS afflicted retard jagoffs who helped to make this happen. With a special thanks going out to the Colorado Supreme Court for their unparalleled stupidity. I'd also like to thank my opponent who spent the last 4 years in the white house being dead from the neck up