Mark Carney says he's going to pause the consumer carbon tax on April 1, but he's also planning to hammer Canadian businesses with carbon taxes.

That's one side.

On the other side, Opposition Leader Pierre Poilievre says he's going to scrap all carbon taxes, including hidden carbon taxes on Canadian businesses.

Which leader will make life more affordable for Canadians.

Quote from: Thiel on March 17, 2025, 02:06:59 PMDKG doesn't read your posts Honeybunch. But I do.

JOEJ  josephine, message from Thiel! Faggit!!!

Quote from: JOE on March 17, 2025, 01:00:01 PMWhichever party wins I hope it's a majority government DKG DKG & they have a pro business bias.

I agree that Jagmeet Singh has been like a cancer for the Liberal party and Canada. Even for the NDP.

A decimation of the NDP would be good for Canada & their party because Singh would get the boot & his party could smarten up.

It would also allow Canada to rebuild on a pro business free enterprise bias/footing.

Anyway the Federal NDP has to look at itself in the mirror. It went from 2nd party official Opposition status to low double digits. I hope they get their ashes kicked in the next election

DKG doesn't read your posts Honeybunch. But I do.

Quote from: Lokmar on March 17, 2025, 09:29:42 AMHow about you keep the gag ball on him 24/7 and take away his internet?

Thanks in advance.

That is the stick. Jo Jo's allowance is the carrot.

Quote from: DKG on March 17, 2025, 11:00:33 AMPolls are indicating a minority government which means another Grit-NDP coalition.

I guarantee there will not be another coastal pipeline constructed at the end of four year years. With Canada's regulatory circus, that would not even happen if the Tories won a majority.

Whichever party wins I hope it's a majority government DKG DKG & they have a pro business bias.

I agree that Jagmeet Singh has been like a cancer for the Liberal party and Canada. Even for the NDP.

A decimation of the NDP would be good for Canada & their party because Singh would get the boot & his party could smarten up.

It would also allow Canada to rebuild on a pro business free enterprise bias/footing.

Anyway the Federal NDP has to look at itself in the mirror. It went from 2nd party official Opposition status to low double digits. I hope they get their ashes kicked in the next election

This is the type of blatant lies Carney is telling the media who are reporting to Canadians.

QuoteMark Carney is leading Canadians down the garden path on the Liberals' carbon tax, aided and abetted by reports claiming he scrapped it.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

What he actually says he is going to do is to fold Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's fuel charge (a.k.a. the "consumer carbon tax" on 22 forms of fossil fuel energy, including gasoline and natural gas) into an "improved and tightened" existing cap-and-trade regime covering large industrial emitters, known as the output-based pricing system (OBPS).

Cap and trade is a carbon tax by another name, although less visible to the public.

It raises the prices we pay for goods created using fossil fuel energy — meaning almost everything —as opposed to the carbon tax which increases taxes on them.

Carney insists this new system — details to come — will make "big polluters" pay while rewarding Canadians for buying low-carbon goods, but he has yet to explain why the "big polluters" won't pass on their increased costs to Canadians under his system, which does not include rebates.

He has also said he is going to "extend the OBPS framework" by five years — to 2035 as opposed to 2030 — when the federal carbon price is scheduled to hit $170 per tonne of industrial greenhouse gas emissions.

That's up from $80 per tonne today, which is also scheduled to rise by 18.75% to $95 per tonne on April 1 under the current Liberal pricing system.

That will increase the cost of gasoline by 20.91¢ per litre and the cost of natural gas by 18.11¢ per cubic metre since Trudeau introduced his carbon tax in 2019.

Carney, one of the corporate world's most vocal advocates for carbon taxes, has repeatedly praised Trudeau's carbon tax in the past, except for the fact that, in his view, it wasn't high enough.

Carney is also proposing a second carbon tax called a carbon border adjustment mechanism. This is a tariff a Carney-led Liberal government would impose on imported goods that Canadians would have to pay if, in the view of the government, they're coming from countries that aren't doing enough to fight climate change.

Carney's not killing Trudeau's carbon taxation regime — he's expanding it.

I am extremely concerned that Carney's cabinet includes most of the same ministers responsible for the most damaging government policies levelled by Ottawa against Canadians. His government will double down on plans to significantly increase the industrial carbon tax will be just as damaging to the Canadian economy as the consumer carbon tax has been.

The Prime Minister also has not yet condemned harmful policies such as:

• The proposed emissions cap which continues to threaten our energy sector.

• Bill C-69 which still hampers critical infrastructure projects.

• Failed bail policies which continue to put our communities at risk, undermining the safety and security that Canmadians deserve.

• Gun bans that target law-abiding hunters and sport shooters

• Open border policies which are allowing over 2 million people per year to enter Canada

• The plastics ban which puts billions of dollars of investment and thousands of jobs at risk

• Bill C-59 which bans businesses from communicating about their environmental goals

• The Electric Vehicle mandate which calls for 100 percent of new vehicle sold to be electric by 2035

• The Sustainable Jobs Act, which aims to transition energy workers to a net zero economy as they work to shut down the energy sector

• The Clean Electricity Regulations that will make our electricity grid 100 times less reliable and increase electricity prices by 35 per cent.

Quote from: Shen Li on March 17, 2025, 02:17:48 AMWhat Asians and Europeans want to buy from Canada, Mark Carney has spent his entire life trying to block with no concern for the pain he inflicts on his country.

You may buy his phony act that at age 60 he finally sees the light, but he sent jobs from his company to the US recently.

Anyway, enough about Canada's slimy politicians. I hope Alberta and Saskatchewan become states. Our investments back in Canada will be dollarized.

With 2 of the 3 breadwinning provinces of Canada gone, the Canadian currency will be called the Canadian Peso.

Polls are indicating a minority government which means another Grit-NDP coalition.

I guarantee there will not be another coastal pipeline constructed at the end of four year years. With Canada's regulatory circus, that would not even happen if the Tories won a majority.

As for Eastern Canada, joining the EU, it will never happen. Turkey has had applicant status since 1987. The Treaty on European Union explicitly reads that only European states can join the EU. Morocco applied to join the precursor to the EU in 1987, but was shot down because it wasn't a European country.

Joining the union is an incredibly lengthy legal process that could take decades to complete; it took the U.K. over a decade to gain membership to the EU's predecessor after its application in 1961. Turkey is still being considered after applying in 1987.

First, all 27 member states must agree to grant Canada candidacy status. Next comes a lengthy negotiation process where Canadian policies across every sector are examined and brought into accordance with European law — from market regulations and food standards to regional policies and even the currency in use.

After all that, every member state must unanimously agree to allow the candidate country into the EU.

Even associate membership similar to Liechtenstein, Norway or Switzerland would take
decades.

We have already reached the limits of what we can sell the Europeans. They want our oil, LNG, and minerals. The Liberals will not approve new pipelines, LNG export facilities, and mines.

It is the same with our exports to Asia. We will never have the export infrastructure to diversify. Investors do not want to invest either and see their investment die by delay.

All we can do for now is to knock down provincial trade barriers and get a North American common market after the election. The benefit of that is that it would take away the ability of governments in BC and Quebec to block energy infrastructure.

Quote from: Thiel on March 16, 2025, 06:09:47 PMYou don't change though Sweetie. In Lokmar's absence you have been throwing yourself at every man on the forum just to make me jealous. Now it was Brent's turn.

How about you keep the gag ball on him 24/7 and take away his internet?

Thanks in advance.

Quote from: JOE on March 17, 2025, 02:06:18 AMHe may also cancel the Lockheed F35 fighter jet order & buy Europeanas well.

Closer economic& political ties with Europe comin Shen Li Shen

More trade with China too as they will buy more Csnadian oil & gas. Japan too Shen.

What Asians and Europeans want to buy from Canada, Mark Carney has spent his entire life trying to block with no concern for the pain he inflicts on his country.

You may buy his phony act that at age 60 he finally sees the light, but he sent jobs from his company to the US recently.

Anyway, enough about Canada's slimy politicians. I hope Alberta and Saskatchewan become states. Our investments back in Canada will be dollarized.

With 2 of the 3 breadwinning provinces of Canada gone, the Canadian currency will be called the Canadian Peso.

Quote from: Shen Li on March 17, 2025, 02:00:18 AMCanada is in the middle of major trade disputes with China and the US and is Carney's first visit to Washington or Beijing? No, he is going to visit some countries in Europe that support his net zero madness.

He may also cancel the Lockheed F35 fighter jet order & buy Europeanas well.

Closer economic& political ties with Europe comin Shen Li Shen

More trade with China too as they will buy more Csnadian oil & gas. Japan too Shen.

Canada is in the middle of major trade disputes with China and the US and is Carney's first visit to Washington or Beijing? No, he is going to visit some countries in Europe that support his net zero madness.

Does anybody else find Jo Jo talking about his country diversifying markets after his government spent 10 years blocking countries from Canada's most sought after commodities amusing?

Canada cannot even remove
internal barriers to trade. The Liberal Party has made Canada more at the mercy than ever to the American. But, he believes they are serious about diversification this time.

This is why I make and handle the money in our relationship. And why Jo Jo spends his allowance on chocolate coins.

Quote from: JOE on March 16, 2025, 02:43:04 PMThe World is changing Big Time, Brent Brent.

Even if it's a US administration friendly to Canadian interests Canada can't rely upon the USA like they used to anymore.

Country needs to diversify its economy and trading partners.

At most, Canada's trade with the USA should be reduced to 50%.

30-40% even better.

Personally I wouldn't mind if Canada joined the EU, eh Brent.

Already there's talk about the new PM Carney cancelling the purchase of F-35 Fighter jets from the US & buyin' the SAAB Jets from Sweden:

The USA is no longer the only act in town, eh Brent.

You don't change though Sweetie. In Lokmar's absence you have been throwing yourself at every man on the forum just to make me jealous. Now it was Brent's turn.

Trump needs to send Canduhduh into a depression and wreck their economy so fuking bad, they start murdering their leaders in the streets. Boycott Canduhduh!!!!!