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Posted by Thiel
 - May 16, 2025, 02:59:53 PM
Quote from: JOE on May 16, 2025, 02:40:12 PMLike I said, I'll give you a chance to prove herself avatar_Mark Carney Mark Carney.

But just one chance.

My own take is that while the planet shouldn't rely upon fossil fuels forever, they're still a necessary step that's needed to introduce newer alternative energy sources.

In other words, to pay for the new energy infrastructure Canada still needs income from fossil fuels. Environmentalists are wrong thinking that we can ditch traditional energy right now & switch to alternative energy overnight.

I think itll take at least 25 years to transition to new energy sources. But probably 50. We can't just just shut off fossil fuels because our economy has been reliant upon them for at least 200. That's a lotta legacy to undo.

So fossil fuels will be with us for much longer whether we like it or not. Probably at least until all of us on this board have passed away.

Maybe we should concentrate on finding cleaner extraction & consumption methods.
Sugar Buns, I have explained to you after we have sex that he has already proven himself. Before and after the election.

He has made it clear that he will keep in place the laws that he advised Mr Trudeau on that kept new Canadian energy in the ground and closed to new markets.

If you were serious about finding new markets for your country's energy exports you should have voted for the only federal candidate who promised new pipelines and new markets and that is Mr Pollivere.

Do you understand now honeybuns or do you need to give me more oral sex first before you can think?
Posted by JOE
 - May 16, 2025, 02:40:12 PM
Quote from: Mark Carney on May 16, 2025, 02:15:32 PMI already have proven myself. Before the election and since.

No new development, no new markets and screw Ontario's auto industry.

I work for the WEF not Canadians.

Like I said, I'll give you a chance to prove herself avatar_Mark Carney Mark Carney.

But just one chance.

My own take is that while the planet shouldn't rely upon fossil fuels forever, they're still a necessary step that's needed to introduce newer alternative energy sources.

In other words, to pay for the new energy infrastructure Canada still needs income from fossil fuels. Environmentalists are wrong thinking that we can ditch traditional energy right now & switch to alternative energy overnight.

I think itll take at least 25 years to transition to new energy sources. But probably 50. We can't just just shut off fossil fuels because our economy has been reliant upon them for at least 200. That's a lotta legacy to undo.

So fossil fuels will be with us for much longer whether we like it or not. Probably at least until all of us on this board have passed away.

Maybe we should concentrate on finding cleaner extraction & consumption methods.
Posted by Mark Carney
 - May 16, 2025, 02:15:32 PM
Quote from: JOE on May 15, 2025, 03:57:18 PMWe'll see.

You should be given a chance to prove yourself avatar_Mark Carney Mark.

As a Liberal voter I support new pipelines like Energy East.

If the Liberals expanded pipelines like the Trans Mountain in my province of BC, people in Ontario and Quebec should accept pipeline expansion in their province too.
I already have proven myself. Before the election and since.

No new development, no new markets and screw Ontario's auto industry.

I work for the WEF not Canadians.
Posted by Thiel
 - May 16, 2025, 01:50:50 PM
Quote from: JOE on May 15, 2025, 03:57:18 PMWe'll see.

You should be given a chance to prove yourself avatar_Mark Carney Mark.

As a Liberal voter I support new pipelines like Energy East.

If the Liberals expanded pipelines like the Trans Mountain in my province of BC, people in Ontario and Quebec should accept pipeline expansion in their province too.
Honeybunch if you support Energy East you should have voted for the party that encouraged it not the party that killed it.

Pussycat, remember I explained to you after we had sex last night that the Liberals wanted TMX to be expensive for taxpayers instead of being built with private money. That is why they chased away Kinder Morgan with ever moving goal posts. Then they changed laws so that no new pipeline to tidewater will ever be built. Mark Carney supported the no new pipelines law and he has said more than once it will remain the law of the land.

Sweetie, Mr Carney fooled you.
Posted by Thiel
 - May 16, 2025, 01:40:58 PM
Quote from: JOE on May 15, 2025, 04:42:31 PMThe West matters hey avatar_Herman Herm?

So do those pipelines.

Is evident that a lack of them in the eastern provinces is putting a strain on National unity.

Therefore they should be built for the greater good
Sweetie, what did I tell you this morning after we had sex about contradicting yourself.

If pipelines were important to you and the economic vitality of Canada you would not have voted for a radical climate activist who has promised to maintain Trudeau's legislation that blocks energy development and new markets.
Posted by Brent
 - May 16, 2025, 12:45:04 PM
Quote from: Herman on May 15, 2025, 03:59:18 PMLooks good on those old Central Canadians who voted for Conman Carney. But, they aint the ones who will feel the squeeze of his radical agenda.
I feel for young Ontarians who did not vote for Mark Carney. They will feel the consequences of Mark Carney's agenda. They already are.
Posted by Herman
 - May 15, 2025, 10:36:57 PM
Thiel that old boyfriend of yours still replies to my posts knowing I cannot read em. I get the alerts every frickin day.

Aint that pathetic.
Posted by JOE
 - May 15, 2025, 04:42:31 PM
Quote from: Herman on May 15, 2025, 03:59:18 PMLooks good on those old Central Canadians who voted for Conman Carney. But, they aint the ones who will feel the squeeze of his radical agenda.

The West matters hey avatar_Herman Herm?

So do those pipelines.

Is evident that a lack of them in the eastern provinces is putting a strain on National unity.

Therefore they should be built for the greater good
Posted by Herman
 - May 15, 2025, 04:00:24 PM
Quote from: Thiel on May 15, 2025, 01:31:50 PMSweetie, no he didn't. He made no commitment at all to get a pipeline to tidewater built. He has committed to keeping the no new pipelines C-69.

What he has said is that is "We have to choose a few projects, a few big projects, not necessarily pipelines, but maybe pipelines. We'll see."

He has also stated that there has to be a "consensus" to get a single pipeline built. That is a hole big enough to drive a semi through.

So, your radical climate nut pm will continue to sit on the fence sending mixed signals while maintaining Trudeau legislation that suffocated hundreds of billions of dollars in investment.

If you want new pipelines and LNG exports facilities, Pierre Pollivere was who you should have voted for.
PP had the backs of working folks. Conman Carney has the backs of Davos billionaires.
Posted by Herman
 - May 15, 2025, 03:59:18 PM
Quote from: Brent on May 15, 2025, 12:30:57 PMThe province of Ontario is going to have the biggest case of buyer's remorse.

Mark Carney was elected to negotiate a good deal with Trump to save automotive jobs in Ontario. Melanie Joly announced $2 billion in support crumbs for automotive workers who will be losing their jobs.

If the auto industry goes, there will be open revolt within the Liberal Party.
Looks good on those old Central Canadians who voted for Conman Carney. But, they aint the ones who will feel the squeeze of his radical agenda.
Posted by JOE
 - May 15, 2025, 03:57:18 PM
Quote from: Mark Carney on May 15, 2025, 02:16:02 PMI had no intention of saving auto sector or energy sector jobs.

I have made it my mission to kill good jobs in Canada even after I became a candidate for prime minister when I moved jobs to New York.

My Culture Minister Steven Guilbeault gave a speech why another pipeline will not be built on my watch citing false stats from the IEA and the capacity of the TMX expansion. Canadians will buy it.

Think about it. Would I keep the emissions cap, the anti tanker and the no new pipelines bills if I was going to approve and speed up a new pipeline to international waters. Would I have appointed radical anti oil activist Jilie Dabrusin Minister of Environment and Climate Change if I was serious about building pipelines or LNG exports facilities.

You Canadians are naive, but did you really think new markets would open up for products I have been trying to keep in the ground for the last thirty years.  :s_laugh:

I have never said a new international pipeline will be built and I never will because it will not happen on my watch.

We'll see.

You should be given a chance to prove yourself avatar_Mark Carney Mark.

As a Liberal voter I support new pipelines like Energy East.

If the Liberals expanded pipelines like the Trans Mountain in my province of BC, people in Ontario and Quebec should accept pipeline expansion in their province too.
Posted by Lokmar
 - May 15, 2025, 03:54:33 PM
Quote from: Thiel on May 15, 2025, 01:31:50 PMSweetie, no he didn't. He made no commitment at all to get a pipeline to tidewater built. He has committed to keeping the no new pipelines C-69.

What he has said is that is "We have to choose a few projects, a few big projects, not necessarily pipelines, but maybe pipelines. We'll see."

He has also stated that there has to be a "consensus" to get a single pipeline built. That is a hole big enough to drive a semi through.

So, your radical climate nut pm will continue to sit on the fence sending mixed signals while maintaining Trudeau legislation that suffocated hundreds of billions of dollars in investment.

If you want new pipelines and LNG exports facilities, Pierre Pollivere was who you should have voted for.

J josephine, message from Thiel!
Posted by Mark Carney
 - May 15, 2025, 02:16:02 PM
I had no intention of saving auto sector or energy sector jobs.

I have made it my mission to kill good jobs in Canada even after I became a candidate for prime minister when I moved jobs to New York.

My Culture Minister Steven Guilbeault gave a speech why another pipeline will not be built on my watch citing false stats from the IEA and the capacity of the TMX expansion. Canadians will buy it.

Think about it. Would I keep the emissions cap, the anti tanker and the no new pipelines bills if I was going to approve and speed up a new pipeline to international waters. Would I have appointed radical anti oil activist Jilie Dabrusin Minister of Environment and Climate Change if I was serious about building pipelines or LNG exports facilities.

You Canadians are naive, but did you really think new markets would open up for products I have been trying to keep in the ground for the last thirty years.  :s_laugh:

I have never said a new international pipeline will be built and I never will because it will not happen on my watch.
Posted by Thiel
 - May 15, 2025, 01:31:50 PM
Quote from: JOE on May 15, 2025, 12:40:16 PMCarney had better get at least 1 pipeline built during his term that can export oil and/or gas to Europe.

If he doesn't I'll be majorly disappointed.

He said during the campaign that he wants a strong energy plan that includes traditional and new forms of energy.

Relying upon oil/gas for revenue isnt even a Conservative or Liberal issue. Its Canada's bread and butter, allows it to pay its Bills

The cancellation of the Keystone pipeline by Biden in the US may well have cost the Democrats the 2024 election. So hopefully the Liberals learn from their American counterparts mistake.
Sweetie, no he didn't. He made no commitment at all to get a pipeline to tidewater built. He has committed to keeping the no new pipelines C-69.

What he has said is that is "We have to choose a few projects, a few big projects, not necessarily pipelines, but maybe pipelines. We'll see."

He has also stated that there has to be a "consensus" to get a single pipeline built. That is a hole big enough to drive a semi through.

So, your radical climate nut pm will continue to sit on the fence sending mixed signals while maintaining Trudeau legislation that suffocated hundreds of billions of dollars in investment.

If you want new pipelines and LNG exports facilities, Pierre Pollivere was who you should have voted for.
Posted by JOE
 - May 15, 2025, 12:40:16 PM
Carney had better get at least 1 pipeline built during his term that can export oil and/or gas to Europe.

If he doesn't I'll be majorly disappointed.

He said during the campaign that he wants a strong energy plan that includes traditional and new forms of energy.

Relying upon oil/gas for revenue isnt even a Conservative or Liberal issue. Its Canada's bread and butter, allows it to pay its Bills

The cancellation of the Keystone pipeline by Biden in the US may well have cost the Democrats the 2024 election. So hopefully the Liberals learn from their American counterparts mistake.