Carney hasn't said how much the hidden industrial carbon tax will cost taxpayers when he implements his plan to 'improve and tighten' it.

The majority of Canadians(68%) are well aware that businesses will have to pass most of the cost of the hidden industrial carbon tax on to consumers.

Quote from: . on Today at 04:22:39 AMRight on the money.

Precisely.

Quote from: Shen Li on Today at 12:39:28 AMThis is what I said, this is what Cunt said.

People defending Canada's rapid decline tend to be much older and their opinions are clouded by nostalgia.

Nostalgia won't provide opportunities to have a secure future. There are other countries that still want to be free and prosperous even though Canada thinks it's overrated. And those countries are always looking for skilled immigrants to build more opportunities for their economies.

True!

Quote from: Shen Li on Today at 12:39:28 AMThis is what I said, this is what Cunt said.

People defending Canada's rapid decline tend to be much older and their opinions are clouded by nostalgia.

Nostalgia won't provide opportunities to have a secure future. There are other countries that still want to be free and prosperous even though Canada thinks it's overrated. And those countries are always looking for skilled immigrants to build more opportunities for their economies.

Right on the money.

Quote from: Herman on July 05, 2025, 07:23:02 PMWhen I worked in Pennsylvania close to thirty years ago the opportunities to earn a good living and build wealth were as good in Canada as they were in the US. In my industry it was even a little better in Western Canada than in it was in the US.

Jesus H has that flipped around. We have high unemployment and low wages thanks to Justine and the tax dodging Davos banker.

Worse than all that is there aint anything around the corner to look forward to. The Conman is doubling down on the reckless policies he advised Justine on. I feel bad for  my grandkids. They will inherit a failed state.

This is what I said, this is what Cunt said.

People defending Canada's rapid decline tend to be much older and their opinions are clouded by nostalgia.

Nostalgia won't provide opportunities to have a secure future. There are other countries that still want to be free and prosperous even though Canada thinks it's overrated. And those countries are always looking for skilled immigrants to build more opportunities for their economies.

Quote from: DKG on July 05, 2025, 09:53:02 AMDon't be sorry me, I am not one of the millions of Canadians who are forced to rely on food banks...

Not yet you aren't, but dance down the timeline for long enough and you could be. You do recognise (as do I) that the Liberal Party is the party of the WEF and Klaus Schwab which is something in your favour, though I wonder if you've been paying attention to some of their other political chattels about the globe. California perhaps, or New York which will happily levy onerous tax burdens against those that choose to exit their sphere of influence. Or South Africa which will allow maurauding gangs to execute property owners and boil their children alive, offering 10% of a property's value before seizing it under eminent domain. Or Australia, where papered title deeds are even now in the process of being eradicated nationwide in favour of digital ones which the peasantry must pay annual tithe to the government lest they lose all claim to their largest capital investment. And that's assuming the servers aren't hacked outright by foreign actors with the government professing both helplessness in the face of it while secretly rubbing their hands in glee as they swoop in to remedy the situation in their favour.

This is only a sliver of what this rapacious organisation is capable of. Its assets can and will be used to leave you begging for their mercy, singing their praises even as you lament privately all that you have lost. Look past the illusory "democracy" your propagandists assure you that you yet have a say in and get a real good goosey on the leviathan that has been ripping it to shreds for decades. Centuries even, because if we're to be honest an organisation lile the WEF doesn't just magic itself into existence out of thin air. Klaus is where he is because he enjoys the favour of those with even more power and influence than he wields. You might safely presume him to be window dressing, just as your elected parliament is window dressing - the real power over how our communities operated is vested elsewhere.

But that is a discussion for another multipost scrollbomb.

I don't trust anyone who maintains allegience to interests outside of the country they pretend to represent. And you will find people on the books of the WEF on ALL sides of the aisle. Remember the love some people here had for Vivek Ramaswami? I recall he too was named as one of the WEF's Young Global Leader (as was Justin Trudeau) and was doing his level best to distance himself from that distinction. I was not at all surprised to find him pushing for expanded H1B visas for Indian immigrants earlier this year. It is precisely the sort of thing that further advances the cause of a globalist organisation as the WEF and it was one of the main reasons why I disliked him as a candidate for presidency when so many of you were touting him as a better option than Donald Trump.

And there are alumni of that organisation in the ranks of Canada's Conservative party. Schwab has openly boasted of it and if you do your due diligence you will know them. They did not get there by accident, they were vetted very thoroughly by agents of the World Economic Forum expressly for the purpose of furthering a global political agenda. It's an agenda that will steamroll its way over you if you do not get out of the way in time and given just how widespread its influence is, you won't even register as a speedhump when it does.




Not quite as apocalyptic as that, but for our purposes here the scale is, I think, comparable. I strongly suggest you give close consideration to what I've said here and make the requisite adjustments to your exit strategy with as much alacrity as you might. You are one man, you are not going to be able to stand against what is coming and the longer you leave it before acting will further weaken your position wherever you land. And that's assuming you get to extricate yourself at all.

Quote from: Herman on July 05, 2025, 07:23:02 PMWhen I worked in Pennsylvania close to thirty years ago the opportunities to earn a good living and build wealth were as good in Canada as they were in the US. In my industry it was even a little better in Western Canada than in it was in the US.

Jesus H has that flipped around. We have high unemployment and low wages thanks to Justine and the tax dodging Davos banker.

Worse than all that is there aint anything around the corner to look forward to. The Conman is doubling down on the reckless policies he advised Justine on. I feel bad for  my grandkids. They will inherit a failed state.

Thanks for continuing to work so hard to fund my retirement, hey Herman Herm?

And say thanks to yer hardworking son too, hey Herm?

I know you will both continue to work hard for me since you haven't reached official retirement age yet.

And I'm so grateful to our wonderful Prime Minister Carney, hey Herm?

Canada is the best country in the Whole World!

When I worked in Pennsylvania close to thirty years ago the opportunities to earn a good living and build wealth were as good in Canada as they were in the US. In my industry it was even a little better in Western Canada than in it was in the US.

Jesus H has that flipped around. We have high unemployment and low wages thanks to Justine and the tax dodging Davos banker.

Worse than all that is there aint anything around the corner to look forward to. The Conman is doubling down on the reckless policies he advised Justine on. I feel bad for  my grandkids. They will inherit a failed state.

Quote from: Thiel on July 05, 2025, 12:37:50 PMSweetie, I explained to you after we had sex this morning that economic growth and investment are fleeing Canada while Canadians fall further into the debt spiral. And now there is a growing brain drain.

Canada grew at one tenth the American rate over the past decade. That is Canada losing trillions of dollars in investment, jobs, and government revenue.

Some of that lost revenue could have paid down public debt which is one of largest Canadian federal expenses. Part of that lost growth could have created mortgage paying jobs to help Canadians get out of the mountain of debt they are under.

Instead Carney is proposing higher taxes and costs to Canadians on imports. This will widen the gap between GDP per capita in Canada and America.

TD Bank has warned that Carney's policies will mean another lost decade. This was before we discovered that Carney will run deficits of closer to $100 billion per year than the $50 billion he said he would during the election.

On top of that provinces like BC and Ontario are also running massive unsustainable deficits combined with sluggish growth. The federal Liberals have been sending part of their deficits to provinces in the form of reduced transfers for things like health since they formed government in 2015.

I was born in Canada, I was educated there, but it is very hard for people with dependents to keep their heads above in water in Canada any longer. Since you are my dependent, I am better off financially outside Canada.

Understand now Sugarplum or do you want to jump in the sack again.

Keep the old fart on his hands and knees .

Quote from: Mark Carney on July 05, 2025, 11:30:21 AMI knew I could count on suckers like you.

Actually Mark Carney Mark, Mr. Prime Minister, economists are saying you will have to make cuts to government to pay for your election promises and increased defense spending.


My bet us being an Economist and former Bank Governor you will do that but many of your supporters won't like it, Mark.

Quote from: JOE on July 04, 2025, 08:34:58 PMThe US will likely fall off the fiscal cliff before Canada does, hey Herman Herm?

That Big Beautiful Bill will bankrupt the USA, hey Herm?

Sweetie, I explained to you after we had sex this morning that economic growth and investment are fleeing Canada while Canadians fall further into the debt spiral. And now there is a growing brain drain.

Canada grew at one tenth the American rate over the past decade. That is Canada losing trillions of dollars in investment, jobs, and government revenue.

Some of that lost revenue could have paid down public debt which is one of largest Canadian federal expenses. Part of that lost growth could have created mortgage paying jobs to help Canadians get out of the mountain of debt they are under.

Instead Carney is proposing higher taxes and costs to Canadians on imports. This will widen the gap between GDP per capita in Canada and America.

TD Bank has warned that Carney's policies will mean another lost decade. This was before we discovered that Carney will run deficits of closer to $100 billion per year than the $50 billion he said he would during the election.

On top of that provinces like BC and Ontario are also running massive unsustainable deficits combined with sluggish growth. The federal Liberals have been sending part of their deficits to provinces in the form of reduced transfers for things like health since they formed government in 2015.

I was born in Canada, I was educated there, but it is very hard for people with dependents to keep their heads above in water in Canada any longer. Since you are my dependent, I am better off financially outside Canada.

Understand now Sugarplum or do you want to jump in the sack again.

Quote from: JOE on July 04, 2025, 01:28:32 PMYou're a good Prime Minister, Mark Carney.

I'm glad I voted for you.

I knew I could count on suckers like you.

There are people living in bus shelters, dumpsters, alleyways, on the mass transit system in abandoned buildings and likely the sewer system too in my city.....who's responsible.....I think we know.

Quote from: Thiel on July 04, 2025, 12:10:58 PMResource extraction and processing and manufacturing are what provided a solid middle class base in Canada. Those sectors have shrank by half on the Liberals' watch.

Real estate has more than doubled it's share of the economy. It is not sustainable.

It used to be that an immigrant or a Canadian would work in reosurce development or manufacturing, buy a home and put their kids through school. Those jobs are disappearing and with them the Canadian middle class dream.

Quote from: . on July 04, 2025, 04:33:49 PMAnd just how likely do you think that course reversal is? I have my doubts; the productive classes of Canada have been hollowed out financially and are weakened to the point of insolvency. While disingenuous assclowns point outwards and assure you that it's worse in America and provide you with endless reams from the propaganda media to support their case. Which people like Shen and myself see through, preferring instead to desert what is clearly a sinking ship, taking our capital with us.

I can't speak for Shen of course, but I can speak for me. There was a time when I was convinced Canada was the country I was going to grow old and die in. I built a business from scratch and contributed my share back into public pool under the understanding that my contribution would be used to further improve the economic landscape and was ultimately rewarded instead with a government which made no secret of its fiscal irresponsibility. And I understood that no amount of "it's so much worse over there" could solve the undeniable truth of just how untenable my relationship with Canada was. I mean even if it were true that prospects in America were worse (and I'm not pretending for a moment that they are), it still doesn't negate the truth of the matter - that prospects in Canada were (and still are) dire as fuck and therefore investing my time and effort somewhere else is imperative.

I'm sorry for you man. 

Don't be sorry me, I am not one of the millions of Canadians who are forced to rely on food banks. I too am self employed with a detailed retirement plan and an exit strategy to Florida.

And I know the Liberal party will not reverse course. This is not the party of John Manley and Dan McTeague anymore. It's the party of the WEF and Klaus Schwab. They have different ideas from the Canadian proletariat about what is best for Canada.

Quote from: Herman on July 04, 2025, 04:19:32 PMThere is nobody in the current Liberal caucus that has any desire to right the ship. They are staying the course even though that means going off a cliff.

Today's globalist Liberals have nothing in common with the pragmatic Liberal Party of Chretien and Martin. Canada was in good hands under their watch. Today's Liberals have abandoned pragmatism for ideological rigidity.