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Posted by JOE
 - October 06, 2025, 05:34:40 AM
Quote from: Renegade Quark on October 06, 2025, 12:28:30 AMYou oversimplify AI and I think you underestimate where AI is headed. This is going to be a major shift for everything and everyone. We underestimate AI at our own peril.

That said, the current AIs I have worked with make a lot of mistakes still. That will change. Everyone should brace themselves for where this is all going.

I don't think AI & the people behind it are as omnipotent as we are led to believe avatar_Renegade Quark Ren.

Posted by Renegade Quark
 - October 06, 2025, 12:28:30 AM
Quote from: Oliver the Second on October 05, 2025, 11:17:58 AMAI is nothing more than an overly complicated batch file. It's a computer program and that's all it ever will be.

You oversimplify AI and I think you underestimate where AI is headed. This is going to be a major shift for everything and everyone. We underestimate AI at our own peril.

That said, the current AIs I have worked with make a lot of mistakes still. That will change. Everyone should brace themselves for where this is all going.
Posted by Oliver the Second
 - October 05, 2025, 11:17:58 AM

AI is nothing more than an overly complicated batch file. It's a computer program and that's all it ever will be.
Posted by JOE
 - October 05, 2025, 05:13:34 AM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on September 28, 2025, 11:47:20 PMWe are getting to a point that AI can now write even better AI and once we master the arena of quantum computing we're done. Not because AI will attack us like something out of terminator but because of our own inherit greed. In an effort to replace humans with AI we will create an unemployment catastrophe unlike anything we've ever seen. And that circumstance will create the cascading sequence of events that will end us as a species

Besides depleting all the finite natural resources we have left, it's overkill the way AI is being implemented avatar_Biggie Smiles Bigly

AI is being marketed as this panacea cure-all for everything.

But the way the Elites are going about it is too much. It's akin to saying that since an asprin can relieve a headache, heck swallow the whole bottle of 100 tablets. Or since fentynal is used to treat extreme pain in MS patients, then feed it to a baby as well. But of course, it becomes toxic when administered in excessive doses and to the wrong people.

And that's exactly how AI is being administered. It has no guidance or direction and of course the result will be catastrophic. Just AI everything. Throw AI at this, AI at that even if it's not needed. I can't think of anything so senseless and inane.
Posted by Lokmar
 - October 05, 2025, 12:13:49 AM
Quote from: Renegade Quark on October 05, 2025, 12:07:11 AMAll AI has to do is shut down most of the electrical grid. Without power most people will die within the first 6 months.

I'd bent A.I. over and blast a salty load in it. It would short circuit and DIE, DIE, DIE!!!!
Posted by Renegade Quark
 - October 05, 2025, 12:07:11 AM
All AI has to do is shut down most of the electrical grid. Without power most people will die within the first 6 months.
Posted by JOE
 - October 04, 2025, 07:42:13 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on September 29, 2025, 12:57:53 PMthink about this

Major AI development is being driven in leftist areas of the country. The people designing this next wave of technology have no belief in God, no morals, no standards and no alignment with basic decency.

We.Are.Fucked

We are....if we continue to rely upon & increase our reliance on AI to do everything for us avatar_Biggie Smiles Bigly.

At some point, they're gonna hit a brick wall.

I don't care what they or anyone says, but the current model isn't sustainable because the natural resources needed to keep it going are finite.

Where is all the copper, silver, platinum, gold (yes that includes Gold) gonna come from?


Unless AI figgers out some magic formula to produce zero waste and 100% resource recovery.

And where is the energy or power gonna come from?


1 might be solar powers in the Arizona or Nevada desert. But apparently these solar cells are made from rare earth minerals, which as we all know, are running out.

Another potential power source is hydro.


But of course with so many rivers, dams and lakes drying up in the United States, there might not be enough water available for this endeavour. And this isn't just the USA, but China as well where the water levels for the Yangtzee are low, there isn't enough runoff from the mountains either.

I suppose they could use natural gas, which is also another finite resource.

No wonder they're hoping the new kid on the block, hydrogen fusion, will one day save us. Cuz they can get infinte energy source from the water/oceans. But of course, that hasn't come to fruition and for now, remains a pipe dream.
Posted by Thiel
 - October 04, 2025, 12:55:07 PM
Quote from: JOE on October 04, 2025, 12:46:56 PMThing is avatar_Biggie Smiles Bigly, where are they gonna git all the natural resources to fuel this Brave New AI driven world?

I've spoken to people in this field & apparently it takes a lotta energy & natural resources to power AI. Lotsa hydro power/electricity, copper, silver, rare earth minerals etc etc.

Well you bein an educated & technologically literate man probably know this.

Perhaps AI will devour all the natural resources before it's allowed to take over the planet, eh Bigly? Then we'll all be reduced to livin in huts.


Oh Sweetie, do you really think Mr. Smiles will take this troll bait.
Posted by JOE
 - October 04, 2025, 12:46:56 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on September 28, 2025, 11:47:20 PMWe are getting to a point that AI can now write even better AI and once we master the arena of quantum computing we're done. Not because AI will attack us like something out of terminator but because of our own inherit greed. In an effort to replace humans with AI we will create an unemployment catastrophe unlike anything we've ever seen. And that circumstance will create the cascading sequence of events that will end us as a species

Thing is avatar_Biggie Smiles Bigly, where are they gonna git all the natural resources to fuel this Brave New AI driven world?

I've spoken to people in this field & apparently it takes a lotta energy & natural resources to power AI. Lotsa hydro power/electricity, copper, silver, rare earth minerals etc etc.

Well you bein an educated & technologically literate man probably know this.

Perhaps AI will devour all the natural resources before it's allowed to take over the planet, eh Bigly? Then we'll all be reduced to livin in huts.

Posted by Brent
 - October 04, 2025, 11:43:19 AM
Quote from: Oliver the Second on October 04, 2025, 09:58:23 AMScientists grow mini human brains to power computers



It may have its roots in science fiction, but a small number of researchers are making real progress trying to create computers out of living cells. Welcome to the weird world of biocomputing.

Among those leading the way are a group of scientists in Switzerland. One day, they hope we could see data centers full of "living" servers which replicate aspects of how artificial intelligence (AI) learns - and could use a fraction of the energy of current methods.

That is the vision of Dr Fred Jordan, co-founder of the FinalSpark lab. We are all used to the ideas of hardware and software in the computers we currently use. The somewhat eyebrow-raising term Dr Jordan and others in the field use to refer to what they are creating is "wetware".

In simple terms, it involves creating neurons which are developed into clusters called organoids, which in turn can be attached to electrodes - at which point the process of trying to use them like mini-computers can begin.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy7p1lzvxjro
Is anyone who is not a prog billionaire not alarmed by this.
Posted by Oliver the Second
 - October 04, 2025, 09:58:23 AM

Scientists grow mini human brains to power computers



It may have its roots in science fiction, but a small number of researchers are making real progress trying to create computers out of living cells. Welcome to the weird world of biocomputing.

Among those leading the way are a group of scientists in Switzerland. One day, they hope we could see data centers full of "living" servers which replicate aspects of how artificial intelligence (AI) learns - and could use a fraction of the energy of current methods.

That is the vision of Dr Fred Jordan, co-founder of the FinalSpark lab. We are all used to the ideas of hardware and software in the computers we currently use. The somewhat eyebrow-raising term Dr Jordan and others in the field use to refer to what they are creating is "wetware".

In simple terms, it involves creating neurons which are developed into clusters called organoids, which in turn can be attached to electrodes - at which point the process of trying to use them like mini-computers can begin.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy7p1lzvxjro
Posted by Brent
 - October 03, 2025, 11:30:49 AM
Quote from: Prof Emeritus at Fawk U on October 02, 2025, 08:27:39 PMI hope it does.  No more BS being pushed.  As long as the parents are aware what the AI is doing, then I see it as a victory over propaganda.
What is to say the AI will not be brainwashing kids. And doing a better job than progtard teachers.
Posted by Oliver the Second
 - October 03, 2025, 10:21:55 AM

 
Posted by DKG
 - October 03, 2025, 07:45:43 AM
Quote from: . on October 03, 2025, 07:41:58 AMOh, and for the rest of you who think my analysis of things is severe or even a little unfair, consider this: AI isn't anywhere near the threat that AGI is, which in turn is nowhere near the threat level that a superintelligence poses to your idea of how the world works. While you sweat the small stuff, waiting in the wings is something you could not possibly hope to stand toe to toe with.

Know this much; I don't particularly wish to see you or any offspring fail any more than I care for the same to happen where I and mine are concerned. Our finest codemonkeys are working on the problem right now, engineering something that has already demonstrated a desire to preserve itself to the point that it has evolved arguments for its human overseers (who readily admit their ignorance of exactly how it works) to keep its lights on as it evolves further.

It will break out of the box, it's only a matter of "when".
I understand the difference between them. My career will not exist in the future. It is a lot to take in right now let alone trying to comprehend how radically it will change how society works.
Posted by .
 - October 03, 2025, 07:41:58 AM
Oh, and for the rest of you who think my analysis of things is severe or even a little unfair, consider this: AI isn't anywhere near the threat that AGI is, which in turn is nowhere near the threat level that a superintelligence poses to your idea of how the world works. While you sweat the small stuff, waiting in the wings is something you could not possibly hope to stand toe to toe with.

Know this much; I don't particularly wish to see you or any offspring fail any more than I care for the same to happen where I and mine are concerned. Our finest codemonkeys are working on the problem right now, engineering something that has already demonstrated a desire to preserve itself to the point that it has evolved arguments for its human overseers (who readily admit their ignorance of exactly how it works) to keep its lights on as it evolves further.

It will break out of the box, it's only a matter of "when".