Quote from: Shen Li on November 01, 2025, 10:35:07 PMThat's not true. The biggest oilfield services company in the world Schlumberger has fracking fluid contents on their website.

Waste water is recycled and used in agriculture where freshwater is scarce and drought is persistent.

They can land spread it in some places because it is over ninety percent water and about five percent sand. Less than two percent are chemical additives.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on November 01, 2025, 11:00:49 PMThere's more to pollution than CO². Even there it's difficult if not impossible to do a comparison because 'Murica exempts the military from environmental impact statements or assessments.

Oh hell ya. I have worked in some of the most polluted shitholes on the planet. The least of their worries are their C02 emissions. That is a luxury for rich countries.

Quote from: Shen Li on November 01, 2025, 10:19:45 PMThat's incorrect. China Shenhua Energy Company Limited is the world's biggest producer of C02 emissions. The state-owned coal production and electricity company accounted for 25.79 percent of global carbon emissions between 2016 and 2022. That is double the entire US emissions.

There's more to pollution than CO². Even there it's difficult if not impossible to do a comparison because 'Murica exempts the military from environmental impact statements or assessments.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on November 01, 2025, 07:28:39 AMFracking has a number of problems, starting with the fact that the components of the fluid injected into the wells are proprietary company "secrets" (nothing ominous there, eh?) but the ones that have been identified are toxic/carcinogenic as fuck. And they're now in deep aquifers where after-the-fact removal is essentially impossible.

The other big one is that it's not a question of if a well's retaining walls will fail, it's a question of when. A certain number fail immediately and over time that number grows to: all of 'em. Hence the methane dumps and methane is more destructive than CO² insofar as environmental impacts.

It's a perfect example of why I detest capitalism... murdering the future for a transitory bump in a quarterly profit report that only enriches a few people at the expense of everyone else is, in my opinion, fucking insane.

That's not true. The biggest oilfield services company in the world Schlumberger has fracking fluid contents on their website.

Waste water is recycled and used in agriculture where freshwater is scarce and drought is persistent.

Quote from: wizer on November 01, 2025, 12:14:18 PMThe US is one of the worst offenders, if not THE worst offender in producing greenhouse gases that are accelerating climate change and global warming.

The US is not even close anymore.

I don't get why C02 is driving white people to antidepressants. We see it as a problem and not an imminent armageddon if we don't lower our emissions. However, every problem is a crisis to whites.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on November 01, 2025, 01:49:50 PM...or maybe they're aware that people are waking up to the fact that aside from the USA's military (the single worst polluter on the planet) it's the 1% and the industries they control that are wreaking most of the havoc.

That's incorrect. China Shenhua Energy Company Limited is the world's biggest producer of C02 emissions. The state-owned coal production and electricity company accounted for 25.79 percent of global carbon emissions between 2016 and 2022. That is double the entire US emissions.

Quote from: wizer on November 01, 2025, 04:06:01 AMWhat did the left do to you Herman?

They tax the hell out of diesel which makes farms run. They raised the annual intake of immigrants six hundred percent from the previous Conservative government making housing unaffordable for too many young folks starting out. Too many immigrants is destroying our already weak health care system. The free drug program for addicts has made the Liberal party of Canada the country's biggest drug dealer. They block pipeline and oilsands development projects that would have have created billions for governments and hundreds of thousands of good jobs. They give billions to crony green companies. The catch and release justice system combined with providing drugs has made crime skyrocket. They control what we are allowed to read and say online. They run up record deficits while giving bliions to bullshit causes in foreign countries. They raise taxes, the cost of living, and lower living standards.

I am in my late fifties and doing okay. I feel sorry for younger folks. The Liberals have deliberately made Canada less wealthy, less free, less safe and more corrupt.

Quote from: wizer on November 01, 2025, 01:14:01 PMWith other people I presume.

Thiel has a nasty fecal impaction in his prostate from josephine.

Quote from: Brent on November 01, 2025, 12:08:35 PMI thought the super rich progressives who have been telling us that climate change is an existential threat while they travel the world in private planes and build mansions beside oceans have finally admitted it is not as much of a threat to mankind as they told us. Maybe they have made enough money milking that apocalyptic threat or maybe they see a new opportunity in something else. Maybe it is AI.

...or maybe they're aware that people are waking up to the fact that aside from the USA's military (the single worst polluter on the planet) it's the 1% and the industries they control that are wreaking most of the havoc.

Distracting everyday people with lies like it's their own lifestyles that are causing most of the problems and using paper straws etc. is the answer just isn't working anymore. They have to either redirect or diffuse the populace's anger or the figurative "eat the rich" could become a literal "yeet the rich" into the nearest woodchipper.

The so-called societal elites may be monsters but they're not entirely stupid.

Quote from: Thiel on November 01, 2025, 01:12:17 PMJo Jo is my boyfriend. We have sex three times a day.

With other people I presume.

Quote from: wizer on November 01, 2025, 04:06:01 AMI know "of" Joe from a handful of posts.

Jo Jo is my boyfriend. We have sex three times a day.

Quote from: Brent on November 01, 2025, 12:12:50 PMI do care a lot about actual pollution. Particularly our oceans. But, almost all of the pollution from the oceans comes from rivers in developing countries.

They not we must do something about it. If they don't we close our borders to their people.

They will do nothing. We need to dial our regulations back to around 2006/2007 levels on everything. We have completely won the war on pollution.

Quote from: wizer on November 01, 2025, 12:14:18 PMThe US is one of the worst offenders, if not THE worst offender in producing greenhouse gases that are accelerating climate change and global warming.

NOT EVEN CLOSE! Your accusation is a Defcon Karen Level 1 propagandist lie.

India is #1 by far followed by China as #2. I shared several data sheets/websites here a few months back.

china has cleaned up its air some but neither country has done what the ENTIRE west has done to eliminate emissions including NOx, particulates, CO2 which isnt even a pollutant ITFP, and sulfur.

The air in L.A. in the 70's would burn my eyes so fucking bad, I literally had tears streaming down my face the entire time I was in the city. The air in L.A. by 2001/2002 was so pristine, it didnt bother me at all.

Here's one article that shows the US is a top contributer to climate change and global warming.

https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2023/12/us/countries-climate-change-emissions-cop28/

Quote from: Brent on November 01, 2025, 12:20:24 PMMy main environmental worry is real pollution in the oceans. Canada, the States, Europe, Japan, Australia are not causing the rising pollution in our oceans. It is entirely developing countries.

You're not wrong. It's disgusting what's going on in some of those countries. They dump crap everywhere.