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Posted by wizer
 - November 03, 2025, 06:22:09 AM
avatar_Oliver the Second

Disregard my prior comment in regard to the cost of Windows 11.

You can pick up a Product Key on Ebay for under $20. For about double that you can get it in a self installing version on a USB drive that takes a few steps out of the process but you're still going to have to apply a few hacks to get it to install on an older machine. And there's still a slim chance it won't install on your computer even with the hacks applied.

But running Windows 7 and loading unknown websites is foolish to say the least.
Posted by wizer
 - November 01, 2025, 01:07:02 PM
Quote from: Oliver the Second on November 01, 2025, 12:47:42 PMYou really are Joe aren't you  :crampe:



Damn you got me fast I figured it would take someone at least a week.

Have a cookie. But just one!
Posted by Oliver the Second
 - November 01, 2025, 12:47:42 PM
Quote from: wizer on November 01, 2025, 12:45:47 PMA Microsoft account is free... Cost is about $140



You really are Joe aren't you  :crampe:

Posted by wizer
 - November 01, 2025, 12:45:47 PM
Quote from: Oliver the Second on November 01, 2025, 12:36:08 PMI'm still using Windows 7, do I get a free upgrade? No? Well it doesn't matter because my computer doesn't have a 'special chip' in it and wouldn't run Windows 11 anyway. So I would have to buy a new computer with registration which forces you to have a Microsoft account whether I want one or not just for the privilege of allowing all of my data to be sent back for "quality assurance". 

Windows 11 can be installed on most pc's with some workarounds. A Microsoft account is free and has many benefits including a way to securely access your data from anywhere you've got internet access.

Cost is about $140
Posted by Oliver the Second
 - November 01, 2025, 12:36:08 PM
Quote from: wizer on November 01, 2025, 12:11:25 PMYou missed the part where Microsoft publishes the expected lifecycle of each Windows version and perhaps more importantly that the newest operating system is a free upgrade.

Microsoft as well as many third party analysts have explained that it's more efficient to build a new OS rather than try to patch the old one as they battle security issues which are constantly being developed by users with malicious intent.



I'm still using Windows 7, do I get a free upgrade? No? Well it doesn't matter because my computer doesn't have a 'special chip' in it and wouldn't run Windows 11 anyway. So I would have to buy a new computer with registration which forces you to have a Microsoft account whether I want one or not just for the privilege of allowing all of my data to be sent back for "quality assurance".

But to be fair I do agree it's more efficient to build a new OS - as long as it isn't Windows.
Posted by wizer
 - November 01, 2025, 12:11:25 PM
Quote from: Oliver the Second on November 01, 2025, 12:08:50 PMWhich only proves what a lousy product Windows is. It should be invulnerable to hacks when it's released but instead we get buggy messes that only get fixed when hackers discover the exploits that Microsoft was too stupid or lazy to find themselves.

You know what you're going to be hearing next year? "You really need to upgrade to Windows 12 because Windows 11 will be vulnerable very soon..."

It's nothing more than a collusion between Microsoft and hardware manufactures to force people to shell out cash year after year after year in exchange for a product that tracks your every move and sends everything on your hard drive back to Microsoft which then sells your data to anyone with enough cash.

Fuck Microsoft. Use Linux instead and stay free.


You missed the part where Microsoft publishes the expected lifecycle of each Windows version and perhaps more importantly that the newest operating system is a free upgrade.

Microsoft as well as many third party analysts have explained that it's more efficient to build a new OS rather than try to patch the old one as they battle security issues which are constantly being developed by users with malicious intent.
Posted by Oliver the Second
 - November 01, 2025, 12:08:50 PM
Quote from: wizer on November 01, 2025, 06:22:22 AM...while Windows 10 is going to be vulnerable to all sorts of hacks very soon?



Which only proves what a lousy product Windows is. It should be invulnerable to hacks when it's released but instead we get buggy messes that only get fixed when hackers discover the exploits that Microsoft was too stupid or lazy to find themselves.

You know what you're going to be hearing next year? "You really need to upgrade to Windows 12 because Windows 11 will be vulnerable very soon..."

It's nothing more than a collusion between Microsoft and hardware manufactures to force people to shell out cash year after year after year in exchange for a product that tracks your every move and sends everything on your hard drive back to Microsoft which then sells your data to anyone with enough cash.

Fuck Microsoft. Use Linux instead and stay free.
Posted by wizer
 - November 01, 2025, 06:22:22 AM
Not understanding why you would go to the trouble of installing a newer version of Windows 10 when Windows 11 is more secure and will be supported by Microsoft for many years to come, while Windows 10 is going to be vulnerable to all sorts of hacks very soon?

Did I mention Windows 11 is a) free and b) backwards compatible with almost any computer running Windows 10 today and if it isn't then you've got a pc that really should be used as nothing more than a doorstop,

Posted by JOE
 - October 14, 2025, 08:18:26 PM
Quote from: Oliver the Second on October 14, 2025, 10:04:21 AMI wonder if Microsoft is going to pitch in to help recycle the millions of perfectly functional computers that are about to hit the landfill.


I ain't betting on it.

The Tech Savvy don't recommend upgrading to Windows 11 avatar_Oliver the Second llie!

Posted by Oliver the Second
 - October 14, 2025, 10:04:21 AM

I wonder if Microsoft is going to pitch in to help recycle the millions of perfectly functional computers that are about to hit the landfill.


I ain't betting on it.
Posted by JOE
 - October 14, 2025, 01:04:05 AM
Posted by JOE
 - October 14, 2025, 01:02:35 AM
It was a lengthy complicated process but I got it done.

Not like a Mac that's fer sure.

I got Windows Mac OSx & Linux installed on the same computer eh.

I jes use whichever one works when needed.

They're all kludgy n quirky.