Quote from: DKG on November 02, 2025, 10:03:11 AMIf more plants and trees are carbon sinks and higher C02 levels make the world more green and lush the so called C02 problem solves itself.

Tell that to all the dead coral.

Quote from: Brent on November 02, 2025, 11:38:20 AMIf you believe a disaster is coming and will be caused by rising C02 emissions how much have you reduced your own emissions?

I don't give a fuck if the earth collapses on itself as long as it lasts until I take my last breath.

Quote from: Brent on November 02, 2025, 11:43:16 AMHow did intelligent people let themselves be fooled into believing C02 is a pollutant that will destroy the planet and eight million metric tonnes of plastics annually and chemical runoff from third world rivers into our oceans is not.

The two completely unrelated problems do not somehow negative the devastating impact of the other.

C02 is not a pollutant so much as a "heat trapping blanket" which is a layman's term for the heat trapping effect that massive amounts of artificially produced C02 have on the atmosphere.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on November 02, 2025, 01:29:08 PMif nations such as the U.S deprive ourselves of the ability to tap into such resources. The demand will simply be met elsewhere, and what does elsewhere actually mean? 

The few available options that are environmentally friendly is the production of energy via nuclear energy, solar and wind power.

Sooner or later the oil's going to run out anyway. 

Quote from: wizer on November 01, 2025, 01:14:01 PMWith other people I presume.

Oh heavens no. Jo Jo and I are in a monogamous relationship.

Quote from: Brent on November 02, 2025, 11:43:16 AMHow did intelligent people let themselves be fooled into believing C02 is a pollutant that will destroy the planet and eight million metric tonnes of plastics annually and chemical runoff from third world rivers into our oceans is not.

Here is the situation as I see it. Is there truth to the consequence of such emissions? Maybe, maybe not, but my spin the the matter does not directly attack the truthfulness of the statement. The way I look at is the demand for energy by mankind as a whole is not going to decrease if nations such as the U.S deprive ourselves of the ability to tap into such resources. The demand will simply be met elsewhere, and what does elsewhere actually mean? Does it mean that India closes said gap in energy production at 5 maybe 10 times the negative consequence?

in such a scenario I see us doing more harm then good by reducing our own ability to produce the output the world needs. Sure our way merely delays the inevitable in such a context. I totally get that, but the buying of additional time does bring with it a level of positivity that I cannot help but say we should leverage

Quote from: Brent on November 02, 2025, 11:43:16 AMHow did intelligent people let themselves be fooled into believing C02 is a pollutant that will destroy the planet and eight million metric tonnes of plastics annually and chemical runoff from third world rivers into our oceans is not.

People cant implement a plan and discontinue it when it reaches its goal. Its really that simple. I like to use gas and diesel emissions systems as examples because I am very very familiar with them and I've personally seen the process go from constructive to destructive.

There was in fact an actual pollution problem from gas and diesel engines that existed for 100 years. We solved it by 2006/2007. The question them became "what do we do now that we've reduced the emissions we worked on by over 90%?". The answer was "Go after the remaining 10% no matter the cost!" We did that too BTW and the tech necessary to do that caused MORE CO2 AND requires MORE fossil fuel be expended.

environMENTALists conveniently ignore this tho.

Quote from: wizer on November 02, 2025, 11:26:04 AMI didn't come back here to argue with idiots. I do enough of that elsewhere. But if I change my mind I'll get back to you.

Okay, see you tomorrow Joe 

Quote from: Lokmar on November 02, 2025, 11:17:11 AMI thank God for Trump! I'm very hopeful that Lee Zelden rolls standards back to 2006. The terd wurld can catch up to our standards over the next 50 years.

Climate hysteria clowns constantly tell me we need to set the example. Sounds like the same people who said similar things about bringing china into the world economy where we stayed bent over for them while they stayed communist. Speaking of, that caused a LOT of the pollution you people cry about. Good job!

How did intelligent people let themselves be fooled into believing C02 is a pollutant that will destroy the planet and eight million metric tonnes of plastics annually and chemical runoff from third world rivers into our oceans is not.

Quote from: wizer on November 02, 2025, 03:56:10 AMClimate change and the devastating effects of global warming are poised to be a planetary disaster within our lifetimes and becomes more difficult to prevent with each passing day. Under the current administration the US has gone backwards in implementing policy to slow or reverse the trend.

If you believe a disaster is coming and will be caused by rising C02 emissions how much have you reduced your own emissions?

Quote from: wizer on November 02, 2025, 11:26:04 AMI didn't come back here to argue with idiots. I do enough of that elsewhere. But if I change my mind I'll get back to you.

Thanks for coming back! I actually love hearing from climate retards like you. I hope you live another 20 years so you can tell me the earf is gonna die 2 or 3 more times!

Echo chambers are boring.

Quote from: Lokmar on November 02, 2025, 11:17:11 AMI thank God for Trump! I'm very hopeful that Lee Zelden rolls standards back to 2006. The terd wurld can catch up to our standards over the next 50 years.

Climate hysteria clowns constantly tell me we need to set the example. Sounds like the same people who said similar things about bringing china into the world economy where we stayed bent over for them while they stayed communist. Speaking of, that caused a LOT of the pollution you people cry about. Good job!

I didn't come back here to argue with idiots. I do enough of that elsewhere. But if I change my mind I'll get back to you.

Quote from: wizer on November 02, 2025, 03:56:10 AMClimate change and the devastating effects of global warming are poised to be a planetary disaster within our lifetimes and becomes more difficult to prevent with each passing day. Under the current administration the US has gone backwards in implementing policy to slow or reverse the trend.

I thank God for Trump! I'm very hopeful that Lee Zelden rolls standards back to 2006. The terd wurld can catch up to our standards over the next 50 years.

Climate hysteria clowns constantly tell me we need to set the example. Sounds like the same people who said similar things about bringing china into the world economy where we stayed bent over for them while they stayed communist. Speaking of, that caused a LOT of the pollution you people cry about. Good job!

Quote from: Shen Li on November 01, 2025, 10:27:22 PMThe US is not even close anymore.

I don't get why C02 is driving white people to antidepressants. We see it as a problem and not an imminent armageddon if we don't lower our emissions. However, every problem is a crisis to whites.

FUKIN AYE!!!!!

Quote from: wizer on November 02, 2025, 03:56:10 AMClimate change and the devastating effects of global warming are poised to be a planetary disaster within our lifetimes and becomes more difficult to prevent with each passing day. Under the current administration the US has gone backwards in implementing policy to slow or reverse the trend.

What makes you believe higher C02 concetrations are all doom and gloom?

This is from NASA.

Carbon Dioxide Fertilization Greening Earth, Study Finds
https://www.nasa.gov/centers-and-facilities/goddard/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth-study-finds/

If more plants and trees are carbon sinks and higher C02 levels make the world more green and lush the so called C02 problem solves itself.