Quote from: JOE on Today at 11:32:23 AMCanadian Natural Gas and some oil stocks sure shot up since that visit Shen.

Canadian Natural Gas (CNQ) among the winners. It went up even tho much of the stock market is in freefall.

So one of the items on the table must be to sell a lot more oil and gas to China.

Glad I bought some of those stocks during Christmas. Theyve all gone up Shen.

Sugarbuns, I think it's so cute how you pretend to be a short term investor who managed to time the markets.

Quote from: Shen Li on January 19, 2026, 10:34:45 PMCunty Carney doesn't have a lot of options. He was elected PM to get a deal with the US. He didn't. So now he is not only going to keep the destructive EV mandate, he is also going to kill off Ontario's auto manufacturing sector and flood Canada with imported EV's.

Canadian Natural Gas and some oil stocks sure shot up since that visit Shen.

Canadian Natural Gas (CNQ) among the winners. It went up even tho much of the stock market is in freefall.

So one of the items on the table must be to sell a lot more oil and gas to China.

Glad I bought some of those stocks during Christmas. Theyve all gone up Shen.

Quote from: Dove on January 18, 2026, 11:47:40 PM https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTqmAzrEsvo/?igsh=b3c5dmYyYzh1ajAw

 This guy explains it well.

 JOEJ watch this. You are buying into unhinged Islamic propaganda.

I can't see that video because I was banned from Instagram for refusing to provide a photo to verify my identity Dove.

Instagram or their Meta owners want so much information from their users that it's not worth it to use their products. And I rarely use Facebook anymore.

Sorry but if you can post the video incsone other platform like Google or YouTube i can view it.

The founders of this country didnt want the pope or the arch bishop of canterbury leading the government. They DID however, instruct the voters to make sure they elected religious Christians to office. Sure, that stupid bastard Jefferson, declared that muhzies should be free to worship here too, OUT OF COMPLETE IGNORANCE!

Read for yourself what Jefferson said about pislam AFTER listening to the Barbary Pirates and reading the koran for himself, pigshit be upon it! The motherfucker declared that islam, pig piss be upon it, was COMPLETELY incompatible with our form of government.

As far as atheists, there isnt a single one who should ever be allowed to serve in government. NOT ONE! What kind of retarded fucker do you have to be to think its a good idea to elect a man (women need to GTFO of government too BTW) to serve as a steward of God given rights when the retarded fucker doesnt even believe in God?

FUCKING DUMB! FACT!

Quote from: DKG on January 19, 2026, 07:39:18 AMSecularism is a legitimate. Conducting human affairs based on naturalistic considerations, uninvolved with religion.

People of any religious denomination can support a secular society, or adopt the principles of secularism. Atheists and agnostics do not have a monopoly on secularism.

 True. But supporting a secular society as a religious person doesn't mean the religious person is secular.

 Secular means non religious. You can be a religious person who understands the value of a secular society. We cant be a free country and force people into a religion and expect them to pretend to believe that religion or have that world view.

 To me what you just said is "lack of belief in God isnt exclusive to those who lack belief in God. People who believe in God also lack belief in God.

 Or "non religious people are religious people as well"

 Religion and secularism are opposite world views.

 Okay wait I think I understand what you are saying. You are saying that religious people can be and often are (in the west at least) in support of a secular society and dont wish to impose a theocracy. Is that it?

 I can agree with that. I wouldn't say that makes them themselves secular. They are religious.

 Christianity isnt intended to rule governments. The west is rooted in Christian principles of liberty and freedom, justice, responsibility. But a Christian government is never even outlined in scripture. What is outlined is the church.

 Islam is a theocracy. The Quran teaches that. Islam even means "Submission" and a Muslim is "one who submits".  Their Quran teaches that absolute peace can only be had when Islam prevails over all enemies of Allah. I believe there are muslims out there who dont really know why they are muslim. They were raised with it as a religion and you pray and do Ramadan and wear hijabs and quote peaceful or moving verses from the Quran.

 But there are plenty as well who follow Islam as it is who practice tayquia (?) And seek to dominate. My daughter has a Quran and she studies it a bit. I taught her how to study the Bible. With what shes taken from the Quran (and then they have the hadiths) she finds what the Quran teaches absolutely terrifying and vile.

 I mean it is full of child rape, carnal male pleasure, dried cum all over clothes, disturbing misogyny and oppression of women. It teaches that women are lower than men and basically cattle. We aren't human beings in Islam. It teaches war, hatred of non muslims as enemies of Allah. How peace can only be brought by destroying the enemies of Allah. Sharia law is foundational to Islam.

 Islam cant be a secular accepting religion. Its rooted in politics and government and dominance.

 If Yahweh is Almighty God, and Jesus Christ is God in flesh who rose from death to save broken humanity, than Allah is Satan. The two faiths are so opposed to eachother than Islam just slaughters Christians wherever they have the power to do so. They call them "people of the book" or "people of the cross".

 I would say they hate the Christians even more than unbelievers because they can try or coerce non-believers. They will force them to pay a tax or join Islam. More likely they'll just kill you. Christians will die for their faith in Christ. They are not easy to sway. And they spread the gospel so Islam views them as direct threats to success of their goals.

 People can somewhat coexist with a variety of beliefs in a secular society and mind their own business for the most part. But when Islam gains power, that changes really fast. They hate western democracies. They hate the constitutional republic that is the US. And their goal is to fool us, gain our support and compassion, take advantage of our good nature and tolerance, breed us out and infiltrate our governments and over throw us.

 They use communist propaganda and marxism to accomplish it. Its chilling how effective it is.

 We can so easily simply look back at Iran, and how the Ayotollah turn a country of millions of persians into an open air prison under the boot of Islam....and somehow it doesn't register to the useful idiots that "oh shit, this is a trap. And we will be the first to die!"

 The mask will fall off when they gain real power. We really underestimate these people. We see them as goat fucking stone age retards who cant do much in any world power country and we are very wrong in that. They are successfully taking over Europe. They are at the back door of Canada and the USA.

 We cant seperate muslims from Islam....and Islam from a power structure. Thats the foundation of their religion. Like real, legit, devoted muslims are following the Quran sincerely and wholly and they want and need people to sympathize with them and see them as peaceful. Its a manipulation and these people are skilled at using our emotions and our good will as weapons against us.

Quote from: Dove on January 18, 2026, 11:30:14 PMYou can claim to be a vegan and eat meat too....but you aren't a vegan and "meat eating vegans" aren't vegan.

 Religion doesnt work like this. People who are in the religion hate this too. Christians call people out for this all the time and warn people like this that if they dont repent and believe sitting in church won't save them.

 Muslims will kill people like this as infidels.

 What im saying is, they may claim it.....but they are not actually a Muslim or a Christain. They are just non-believers who enjoy church as a socail thing or an emotional peace thing.

Secularism is a legitimate. Conducting human affairs based on naturalistic considerations, uninvolved with religion.

People of any religious denomination can support a secular society, or adopt the principles of secularism. Atheists and agnostics do not have a monopoly on secularism.

  https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTqmAzrEsvo/?igsh=b3c5dmYyYzh1ajAw

 This guy explains it well.

 JOEJ watch this. You are buying into unhinged Islamic propaganda.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 18, 2026, 11:40:29 PMyes.. but he appears secular

that's how they ALL operate.

how do you think Ilhan Omar and Raghead Talib justify to their elders their support of such sickening western degeneracy that is libtardism if not  with an assurance of steadfast dedication that it is all part of a greater plan to destroying this beast from within?

you think a Somali warlord Islamic fanatic is in full support of Men playing in womens sports?

hell, they are not even in favor of women being women and you think they are going to honor the gender confusion of some stupid soyboi when they could just as easily behead the idiot and enjoy a good soccer game after?

That encapsulates the concept of Taqiyya very well.

Quote from: Dove on January 18, 2026, 11:35:15 PMHe isnt secular. He is acting within his religion. His goal is assist the progress of Islam and all that is permitted for that purpose. 

yes.. but he appears secular

that's how they ALL operate.

how do you think Ilhan Omar and Raghead Talib justify to their elders their support of such sickening western degeneracy that is libtardism if not  with an assurance of steadfast dedication that it is all part of a greater plan to destroying this beast from within?

you think a Somali warlord Islamic fanatic is in full support of Men playing in womens sports?

hell, they are not even in favor of women being women and you think they are going to honor the gender confusion of some stupid soyboi when they could just as easily behead the idiot and enjoy a good soccer game after?

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 18, 2026, 11:33:56 PMlook at Mandami. your average school boy looking secular Muslim who supports trans lunacy etc etc etc

it would take him about 17 seconds to stick the shiv in one of those transtesticle degenerates in his council should a Muslim majority take control of this country

 He isnt secular. He is acting within his religion. His goal is assist the progress of Islam and all that is permitted for that purpose. 

Quote from: Dove on January 18, 2026, 11:30:14 PMYou can claim to be a vegan and eat meat too....but you aren't a vegan and "meat eating vegans" aren't vegan.

 Religion doesnt work like this. People who are in the religion hate this too. Christians call people out for this all the time and warn people like this that if they dont repent and believe sitting in church won't save them.

 Muslims will kill people like this as infidels.

 What im saying is, they may claim it.....but they are not actually a Muslim or a Christain. They are just non-believers who enjoy church as a socail thing or an emotional peace thing.

look at Mandami. your average school boy looking secular Muslim who supports trans lunacy etc etc etc

it would take him about 17 seconds to stick the shiv in one of those transtesticle degenerates in his council should a Muslim majority take control of this country

Quote from: DKG on January 18, 2026, 11:21:40 PMI'm a nominal Catholic. You can claim Christianity or Islam as your religion and not join a church or mosque or live according to their religious texts.

 You can claim to be a vegan and eat meat too....but you aren't a vegan and "meat eating vegans" aren't vegan.

 Religion doesnt work like this. People who are in the religion hate this too. Christians call people out for this all the time and warn people like this that if they dont repent and believe sitting in church won't save them.

 Muslims will kill people like this as infidels.

 What im saying is, they may claim it.....but they are not actually a Muslim or a Christain. They are just non-believers who enjoy church as a socail thing or an emotional peace thing.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 18, 2026, 11:21:32 PMhow do you explain your average catholic then?

 Non religious people who were baptized as babies and go to mass on holidays are not Catholics just because they say they are lol.

 That still doesnt change what secular means and you cant be a secular, non religious Christian.

 Thats like saying a meat eating vegan. Or an honest liar. Or a conservative communist lol 

Quote from: Dove on January 18, 2026, 11:18:28 PMSecular means non- religious. Christianity is a religion. Islam is a religion.

How can you be a Christian and be non religious?

I'm a nominal Catholic. You can claim Christianity or Islam as your religion and not join a church or mosque or live according to their religious texts.

Quote from: Dove on January 18, 2026, 11:20:58 PMYou cant be a non religious member of a religion

 If you are a Muslim by definition you are religious....Islam is a religion. And a political system.

how do you explain your average catholic then?