Quote from: Shen Li on January 27, 2026, 10:34:21 PMWeird how ICE is operating perfectly fine in every other state, but the one with $19 billion in fraud has riots

 I saw ICE agents at a gas station standing by their vehicle with coffees.

 I nodded and waved and they nodded and waved back.

 And I didnt get shot in the face, go figure.  Oh and one of them was Hispanic even.  Faces covered though.

 Pretty friendly and approachable even for people said to be a "gestapo".   

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 27, 2026, 11:49:51 PMWhy do you bother attempting to reason with imbeciles? you really think you are going to get somewhere productive with this mong?

 I mean that one seems to like me so I figure eh....give it a shot lol.

Quote from: Shen Li on January 27, 2026, 10:30:36 PMSomething else I found that white marxists won't reveal.

Under Obama, the ACLU and Migration Policy Institute documented a complete shift toward "non-judicial removals" what they called "speed over fairness."

By 2012, 75% of all deportations bypassed judges entirely**, handled instead by DHS officers acting as both judge and jury. That's not due process that's administrative removal.

> "Only one quarter of all people facing expulsion get to present their case before an immigration judge... Nonjudicial removals are fast-track proceedings wholly controlled by DHS, sometimes involving only a single border agent who acts as both judge and jury."
> — Joanne Lin, *ACLU*, "Speed Over Fairness: Deportation Under the Obama Administration" (May 1, 2014)

And while we're on facts the Los Angeles Times investigation confirmed that at least 1,480 U.S. citizens were detained by ICE between 2012 and 2018 and later released after proving citizenship.
Many were held for weeks or months before ICE admitted its mistake.
That's not conjecture that's ICE's own data.
It's inconsistent, pretending that abuses only count when your preferred party isn't in power.

 Yep. And Obama put them in "cages".

 The facilities during that time were shitty.  Now? They look like a summer camp.

 56 people also died on Obamas deportation watch. Trumps isnt making as many mistakes deporting legal ones as much as Obama oversaw.

 They are hypocrites but we all know its not about the migrants. They dont give any fucks about the migrants.

Quote from: Dove on January 27, 2026, 08:34:24 PMI didnt do that. I knew when Charlie Kirk was murdered the left would celebrate it. Im well aware the liberal left are savages who want violence and bloodshed of people they disagree with 

 I never once expected, or called for ANY sympathy. For the same reasons I dont expect my dog Eddie to do algebra.  I dont ask for or expect anything from anyone that I know they are incapable of giving.

 I stopped believing a long time ago that liberal leftists were even capable of empathy. I have watched these people destroy US communities, beat and kill innocent people...even children. Drive into parades and mock children killed in floods.

 I never "cried out in outrage" over Kirk, nor did I ask tyrannical sociopaths for sympathy.

 I observe and I point out. Thats it.

 I expect gas lighting attempts like this one you just did.

 Shooting a man for no reason who is doing nothing more than hosting a legal event isnt the same thing as a law enforcement officers shooting a person who got involved in them carrying out lawful duties while having a gun on him.

 But I dont know how capable any of you are in understanding why those two situations are fundamentally different. And that is terrifying and I hope that we never end up at the mercy of people who are this in capable of empathy and who cannot grasp nuance, context or discern information.

 I appreciate your severe limitations here and I understand that in your head this is only about "sides".  That your grasp of this is not much deeper than "they were upset when we shot one of theirs....now they are mocking us because they shot one of ours!" Like i GET this is the mentality here. And its fucking SCARY.

 There is right and wrong. We have laws and processes. NO ONE on the liberal left understands any of it....and if any do? They are gaslighting and lying than for the sake of this cold civil war.

 Never at any point in any state can anyone...me included...get involved myself in a police confrontation with a gun without being tased or shot.

 The rules we ALL have to follow dont magically change to accommodate angry liberals who hate democracy.

 What law was Charlie Kirk breaking?

 I swear to God we have a massive intelligence gap in the world because if you cant see the different between Charlie Kirk being murdered over speech the tyrants didnt like and a guy committing felonies and resisting arrest with a gun?

 We can't discuss this. You are not equipped to discuss this. You cant understand any of it.

 If Charlie Kirk was out there obstructing law enforcement and had a gun on him and resisted arrest? He would have been shot there as well. And it would still be justified.

 With the way so many of you think in this one dimensional, no nuance way.....like Kirks murder was the same as Pretti....thats a terrifying world you are hoping for. 

 A lot of you are disconnected from reality. Or pretending to be. Either way....its ridiculous, Joe. And dishonest. 

 Be better than this.

Why do you bother attempting to reason with imbeciles? you really think you are going to get somewhere productive with this mong?

Weird how ICE is operating perfectly fine in every other state, but the one with $19 billion in fraud has riots

Something else I found that white marxists won't reveal.

Under Obama, the ACLU and Migration Policy Institute documented a complete shift toward "non-judicial removals" what they called "speed over fairness."

By 2012, 75% of all deportations bypassed judges entirely**, handled instead by DHS officers acting as both judge and jury. That's not due process that's administrative removal.

> "Only one quarter of all people facing expulsion get to present their case before an immigration judge... Nonjudicial removals are fast-track proceedings wholly controlled by DHS, sometimes involving only a single border agent who acts as both judge and jury."
> — Joanne Lin, *ACLU*, "Speed Over Fairness: Deportation Under the Obama Administration" (May 1, 2014)

And while we're on facts the Los Angeles Times investigation confirmed that at least 1,480 U.S. citizens were detained by ICE between 2012 and 2018 and later released after proving citizenship.
Many were held for weeks or months before ICE admitted its mistake.
That's not conjecture that's ICE's own data.
It's inconsistent, pretending that abuses only count when your preferred party isn't in power.

Isn't this interesting.

Data analyst Kevin Bass (@kevinnbass) just exposed the pattern nobody in the media wants to admit. After analyzing public databases and media reports on violent confrontations with ICE over the past year, Bass found that just nine counties—each a sanctuary jurisdiction run by Democrat politicians—accounted for 63% of all violent ICE confrontations nationwide.

These nine counties produced twice as many violent incidents as the remaining 3,134 counties combined, and a violent confrontation in one of these jurisdictions was 590 times more likely than in any of the other counties.

The top offenders were plotted on the map and included:
 • Los Angeles County: 25 incidents
 • Chicago (Cook County): 28
 • Minneapolis (Hennepin County): 21
 • New York City: 12
 • San Francisco: 6
 • Portland: 6
 • Seattle: 4
 • Denver: 4
 • Newark: 4

All nine are sanctuary jurisdictions where local officials actively resist federal immigration enforcement.

Bass's conclusion is stark: "These violent confrontations are rare in states and cities where local officials cooperate with law enforcement." In non-sanctuary areas, cooperation leads to calm enforcement. In these nine Democrat-run sanctuary strongholds, resistance breeds violence—against agents, bystanders, protesters, and the public.

This isn't coincidence. It's policy. Sanctuary rules create havens for escalation, doxxing, blockades, and attacks—while the rest of America sees almost none.

Of 170 US citizens detained by ICE, about 130 were arrested for interfering with or assaulting officers, according to the left-leaning ProPublica.

Trump error rate = 0.0067%.

Obama's error rate = 0.0225%.  I.e. THREE TIMES THE TRUMP ERROR RATE.
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Under Trump, there's been one death for every 18,594 detainees.

Under Obama there was one death for every 14,314 detainees.

Under Trump, the number of American citizens accidentally deported: ZERO.

Under Obama, the number of American citizens accidentally deported: FOUR.
https://x.com/AnnCoulter/status/2015123907330683100?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E2015127988426219777%7Ctwgr%5Ef7cbe5f4be82b47f636f044746971384407b7ed4%7Ctwcon%5Es2_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fheadlineusa.com%2Fobama-ice-error-rate-3x-trump%2F

End sanctuary cities now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kxPanJVL58

Quote from: Shen Li on January 26, 2026, 10:55:51 PMDon't be lectured by people who cheer political violence and then claim the moral high ground.

- They laughed and celebrated when Charlie Kirk was murdered.
- They praised and lionized Luigi Mangione.
- They mocked the attempted assassination of President Trump and said the shooter should've been better.
- They never mourned Ashley Babbitt.
- They never mourned Laken Riley.
- They never mourned Jocelyn Nungary.
- They never mourned Iryna Zarutska.

And none of those folks assaulted law enforcement and resisted arrest.
That Mangione guy is a different case.

The owner of BF is the worst forum admin. But, charging a fee to post is a good idea for forum cancers like Seamoron. I think it's time Joe paid a fee to post his prehistoric trolling here.

Sorry to interrupt the thread. Carry on.

Quote from: JOE on January 27, 2026, 08:06:07 PMIm disappointed by your responses Dove.

You cried out of outrage & asked for public sympathy when Charlie Kirk was shot dead. And many liberals and those on the Left actually offered their condolences and sympathies  to he and his surviving family Dove. And Yet you offer no sympathy for the Minnesota shooting victims.

I offered my sympathies to Charlie Kirk and his widow.

So why cant you the same for 'the other side' Dove.

 I didnt do that. I knew when Charlie Kirk was murdered the left would celebrate it. Im well aware the liberal left are savages who want violence and bloodshed of people they disagree with 

 I never once expected, or called for ANY sympathy. For the same reasons I dont expect my dog Eddie to do algebra.  I dont ask for or expect anything from anyone that I know they are incapable of giving.

 I stopped believing a long time ago that liberal leftists were even capable of empathy. I have watched these people destroy US communities, beat and kill innocent people...even children. Drive into parades and mock children killed in floods.

 I never "cried out in outrage" over Kirk, nor did I ask tyrannical sociopaths for sympathy.

 I observe and I point out. Thats it.

 I expect gas lighting attempts like this one you just did.

 Shooting a man for no reason who is doing nothing more than hosting a legal event isnt the same thing as a law enforcement officers shooting a person who got involved in them carrying out lawful duties while having a gun on him.

 But I dont know how capable any of you are in understanding why those two situations are fundamentally different. And that is terrifying and I hope that we never end up at the mercy of people who are this in capable of empathy and who cannot grasp nuance, context or discern information.

 I appreciate your severe limitations here and I understand that in your head this is only about "sides".  That your grasp of this is not much deeper than "they were upset when we shot one of theirs....now they are mocking us because they shot one of ours!" Like i GET this is the mentality here. And its fucking SCARY.

 There is right and wrong. We have laws and processes. NO ONE on the liberal left understands any of it....and if any do? They are gaslighting and lying than for the sake of this cold civil war.

 Never at any point in any state can anyone...me included...get involved myself in a police confrontation with a gun without being tased or shot.

 The rules we ALL have to follow dont magically change to accommodate angry liberals who hate democracy.

 What law was Charlie Kirk breaking?

 I swear to God we have a massive intelligence gap in the world because if you cant see the different between Charlie Kirk being murdered over speech the tyrants didnt like and a guy committing felonies and resisting arrest with a gun?

 We can't discuss this. You are not equipped to discuss this. You cant understand any of it.

 If Charlie Kirk was out there obstructing law enforcement and had a gun on him and resisted arrest? He would have been shot there as well. And it would still be justified.

 With the way so many of you think in this one dimensional, no nuance way.....like Kirks murder was the same as Pretti....thats a terrifying world you are hoping for. 

 A lot of you are disconnected from reality. Or pretending to be. Either way....its ridiculous, Joe. And dishonest. 

 Be better than this.

Quote from: JOE on January 27, 2026, 08:06:07 PMIm disappointed by your responses Dove.

You cried out of outrage & asked for public sympathy when Charlie Kirk was shot dead. And many liberals and those on the Left actually offered their to he and his surviving family. condolences and sympathies Dove. And Yet you offer no sympathy for the Minnesota shooting victims.

I offered my sympathies to Charlie Kirk and his widow.

So why cant you the same for 'the other side' Dove.

because the other side are lowlife cock sucking scum who deserve what they get

now fuck off and take your fake sympathies with you