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Posted by Lab Flaker
 - Today at 08:11:01 AM
Quote from: JOE on Today at 04:33:09 AMThat's interesting, Lab Flaker.

I only deposit and withdraw large amounts of money into accounts where another witness is present.

Like retirement/nest egg accounts.

That way AI or anyone using it can't steal it.

Getting interested in cryto. I might try up to $1000 but not much more than that.

See how it goes.

I've only dabbled a few grand in the stock markets, primarily copper. I personally don't trust Crypto or Bitcoin transactions, or the whole concept for that matter.

Even online purchasing makes me wary.

It took me a long time to get my head above water, and I want to keep it that way.
Posted by JOE
 - Today at 04:37:10 AM
If the Elites want an economy that grows, they should distribute shares to the masses, so it doesn't shrivel up. Otherwise, the economy will eventually die if nobody has jobs because AI. The masses need  money to spend to buy the products from companies owned by the Elites.

The Trump Accounts are actually what's needed - for everyone, especially the working class and poor:


Give them ownership in those companies by providing them with $1000 investment accounts and annual top ups of $100.
Posted by JOE
 - Today at 04:33:09 AM
Quote from: Lab Flaker on Today at 01:52:10 AMA friend of mine recently got duped by an AI get-rich-quick video of Elon Musk and our Prime Minister, Anthony Albanese.
He lost around 450K, most of which was his retirement , to crypto currency fraud.

I looked at the video and could see all the telltale signs of AI script, but he's in his 70's and thought that the video was quite convincing at the time.

AI is really causing havoc with the computer illiterate these days.

That's interesting, Lab Flaker.

I only deposit and withdraw large amounts of money into accounts where another witness is present.

Like retirement/nest egg accounts.

That way AI or anyone using it can't steal it.

Getting interested in cryto. I might try up to $1000 but not much more than that.

See how it goes.
Posted by Lab Flaker
 - Today at 01:52:10 AM
A friend of mine recently got duped by an AI get-rich-quick video of Elon Musk and our Prime Minister, Anthony Albanese.
He lost around 450K, most of which was his retirement , to crypto currency fraud.

I looked at the video and could see all the telltale signs of AI script, but he's in his 70's and thought that the video was quite convincing at the time.

AI is really causing havoc with the computer illiterate these days.
Posted by Lokmar
 - Today at 01:25:21 AM
Quote from: Lab Flaker on Today at 01:18:28 AMWorld annihilation will stop AI becoming any problem. Civilisations have been destroyed time and time again. Empires conquered. Nature has a way of levelling the odds.

Humankind is a plague on this planet...and a much needed culling is in order.

I'm thinking at least 90% of all humankind needs destroying.
Even a 50% cull should set us all back to the ol' hunting and gathering times.

It would literally be a breath of fresh air for the entire planet without sounding too doomy and gloomy.

Sounds like a good time for a civil war!  :drunk2:
Posted by Lab Flaker
 - Today at 01:18:28 AM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on April 10, 2026, 09:00:27 AMFor starters, by 2035 at the latest these technologies will either destroy life as we know it or make it so unrecognizable for the vast majority of us that it might as well be destroyed. This is an unavoidable fact.

I am deep in the industry where these technologies are born and raised and can tell you with first hand certainty the drivers behind these technologies (the world wide elite class) will use them as a tool to rid the world of the rest of us. It should be no secret to any of you that to them we are a burden to the planet and an impediment to the continuation of their blood lines.

they're really not even being secretive about it anymore.

Do you think for one second society will end because AI becomes self aware and suddenly pushes a button? That's just naive and probably suggests you should put down the terminator movies for good.

No no.. our own greed and mental and physical laziness which social media has been designed to fuel will have us fighting each other to the death for scraps and morsels LONG before AI wipes us off the map.

Elon Musk said it best himself

Elon Musk predicts that within 10 to 20 years, advancements in AI and robotics will make traditional employment optional, leading to a future where "universal high income" supports people. He suggests that work will become a hobby or a choice, similar to cultivating a personal garden, as robots handle most labor.

Universal high income with nothing to barter for 8 billion people in various stages of technological advancement? Seriously? C'mon... this guy is far too smart to be saying shit like this as he well knows there is a hairline between THIS environment and socialism. And we all know he's staunchly against socialism.. but he just happens to be for an outcome which flies in the face of Capitalism and a system of value through trade that has existed for thousands of years?

No no

what he means when he says there will be universal high income and people wont have to work is the timeframe AFTER us parasites are removed from the equation. The ELITES won't have to work and will have devices doing their bidding. NOT US.

World annihilation will stop AI becoming any problem. Civilisations have been destroyed time and time again. Empires conquered. Nature has a way of levelling the odds.

Humankind is a plague on this planet...and a much needed culling is in order.

I'm thinking at least 90% of all humankind needs destroying.
Even a 50% cull should set us all back to the ol' hunting and gathering times.

It would literally be a breath of fresh air for the entire planet without sounding too doomy and gloomy.
Posted by Reggie Essent
 - Today at 12:48:33 AM
To be honest, I don't give a fuck.
Posted by JOE
 - Today at 12:17:11 AM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on April 10, 2026, 11:32:06 AMSadly it wont be--- not the track we are currently on

Governments oughta work with corporations and wealthy individuals to set up investor accounts, particularly for low income Biggie. Maybe something like trading accounts with $1000 deposited in them. Especially with the onset of AI and its displacement of workers and downward pressure on their  incomes.

This would allow the capitalist system to have liquidity and cash flow so it can continue to thrive and grow. Because without consumers, the economy will stall and might eventually die if there's no money being spent by displaced workers because of AI. The population no matter how poor has to be able to participate. Otherwise, there's no game and the economy will eventually die.

BTW, this isn't a 'socialist' idea or program since a pilot program was launched by the Trump administration for new born children with $1000 investor accounts in the States. I think they call them Trump accounts and they are partially funded by ultra capitalist billionaires Michael Dell and Ray Dalio


So if Elon wants consumers to buy his cars, it can put money back in their pockets if they own company shares, especially if they pay dividends. Maybe every year $100 could be deposited in lower income earners investment accounts so they can keep on buying stocks and investing in local businesses.

And businesses or wealthy individuals who donate to such programs would get tax breaks putting more money back in their pockets. win win really.

While I'm no fan of Trump, I admit this is one good thing he's done for Americans.

Canada and other wealty Western nations should do the same.
Posted by Biggie Smiles
 - April 10, 2026, 11:32:06 AM
Quote from: formosan on April 10, 2026, 11:30:37 AMBiggie I don't have grandchildren or have one on the way yet like you and Reggie Essent do.....but I still what kind of future babies born this year will have in 2050.....will it be better than my life....I hope so but I am not too optimistic.

Sadly it wont be--- not the track we are currently on
Posted by formosan
 - April 10, 2026, 11:30:37 AM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on April 10, 2026, 09:00:27 AMFor starters, by 2035 at the latest these technologies will either destroy life as we know it or make it so unrecognizable for the vast majority of us that it might as well be destroyed. This is an unavoidable fact.

I am deep in the industry where these technologies are born and raised and can tell you with first hand certainty the drivers behind these technologies (the world wide elite class) will use them as a tool to rid the world of the rest of us. It should be no secret to any of you that to them we are a burden to the planet and an impediment to the continuation of their blood lines.

they're really not even being secretive about it anymore.

Do you think for one second society will end because AI becomes self aware and suddenly pushes a button? That's just naive and probably suggests you should put down the terminator movies for good.

No no.. our own greed and mental and physical laziness which social media has been designed to fuel will have us fighting each other to the death for scraps and morsels LONG before AI wipes us off the map.

Elon Musk said it best himself

Elon Musk predicts that within 10 to 20 years, advancements in AI and robotics will make traditional employment optional, leading to a future where "universal high income" supports people. He suggests that work will become a hobby or a choice, similar to cultivating a personal garden, as robots handle most labor.

Universal high income with nothing to barter for 8 billion people in various stages of technological advancement? Seriously? C'mon... this guy is far too smart to be saying shit like this as he well knows there is a hairline between THIS environment and socialism. And we all know he's staunchly against socialism.. but he just happens to be for an outcome which flies in the face of Capitalism and a system of value through trade that has existed for thousands of years?

No no

what he means when he says there will be universal high income and people wont have to work is the timeframe AFTER us parasites are removed from the equation. The ELITES won't have to work and will have devices doing their bidding. NOT US.
Biggie I don't have grandchildren or have one on the way yet like you and Reggie Essent do.....but I wonder what kind of future babies born this year will have in 2050.....will it be better than my life....I hope so but I am not too optimistic.
Posted by Lokmar
 - April 10, 2026, 11:19:12 AM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on April 10, 2026, 09:00:27 AMFor starters, by 2035 at the latest these technologies will either destroy life as we know it or make it so unrecognizable for the vast majority of us that it might as well be destroyed. This is an unavoidable fact.

I am deep in the industry where these technologies are born and raised and can tell you with first hand certainty the drivers behind these technologies (the world wide elite class) will use them as a tool to rid the world of the rest of us. It should be no secret to any of you that to them we are a burden to the planet and an impediment to the continuation of their blood lines.

they're really not even being secretive about it anymore.

Do you think for one second society will end because AI becomes self aware and suddenly pushes a button? That's just naive and probably suggests you should put down the terminator movies for good.

No no.. our own greed and mental and physical laziness which social media has been designed to fuel will have us fighting each other to the death for scraps and morsels LONG before AI wipes us off the map.

Elon Musk said it best himself

Elon Musk predicts that within 10 to 20 years, advancements in AI and robotics will make traditional employment optional, leading to a future where "universal high income" supports people. He suggests that work will become a hobby or a choice, similar to cultivating a personal garden, as robots handle most labor.

Universal high income with nothing to barter for 8 billion people in various stages of technological advancement? Seriously? C'mon... this guy is far too smart to be saying shit like this as he well knows there is a hairline between THIS environment and socialism. And we all know he's staunchly against socialism.. but he just happens to be for an outcome which flies in the face of Capitalism and a system of value through trade that has existed for thousands of years?

No no

what he means when he says there will be universal high income and people wont have to work is the timeframe AFTER us parasites are removed from the equation. The ELITES won't have to work and will have devices doing their bidding. NOT US.

I'm onboard with this. Seems to pair nicely with my Shitbox rant. If the elites dont cull the herd, we're all going postal. If the economic cat is ever let out of the bag, its gonna be like World War Z.
Posted by DKG
 - April 10, 2026, 09:06:28 AM
Elon Musk said that saving for retirement would be optional.

So many changes. It makes me glad that I will be starting to wind down my career in about three years.
Posted by Biggie Smiles
 - April 10, 2026, 09:00:27 AM
For starters, by 2035 at the latest these technologies will either destroy life as we know it or make it so unrecognizable for the vast majority of us that it might as well be destroyed. This is an unavoidable fact.

I am deep in the industry where these technologies are born and raised and can tell you with first hand certainty the drivers behind these technologies (the world wide elite class) will use them as a tool to rid the world of the rest of us. It should be no secret to any of you that to them we are a burden to the planet and an impediment to the continuation of their blood lines.

they're really not even being secretive about it anymore.

Do you think for one second society will end because AI becomes self aware and suddenly pushes a button? That's just naive and probably suggests you should put down the terminator movies for good.

No no.. our own greed and mental and physical laziness which social media has been designed to fuel will have us fighting each other to the death for scraps and morsels LONG before AI wipes us off the map.

Elon Musk said it best himself

Elon Musk predicts that within 10 to 20 years, advancements in AI and robotics will make traditional employment optional, leading to a future where "universal high income" supports people. He suggests that work will become a hobby or a choice, similar to cultivating a personal garden, as robots handle most labor.

Universal high income with nothing to barter for 8 billion people in various stages of technological advancement? Seriously? C'mon... this guy is far too smart to be saying shit like this as he well knows there is a hairline between THIS environment and socialism. And we all know he's staunchly against socialism.. but he just happens to be for an outcome which flies in the face of Capitalism and a system of value through trade that has existed for thousands of years?

No no

what he means when he says there will be universal high income and people wont have to work is the timeframe AFTER us parasites are removed from the equation. The ELITES won't have to work and will have devices doing their bidding. NOT US.