Title: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: cc on November 10, 2018, 07:25:18 PM
Post by: cc on November 10, 2018, 07:25:18 PM
Canadian memories of the First World War generally stick to Vimy Ridge. Vimy Ridge is the site of Canada's official First World War memorial, and it's the only battlefield that's made its way onto our currency and passports.
But while Vimy may have represented a rare victory in the war's darkest depths, historians, military commanders and First World War veterans themselves were more inclined to believe that Canada's greatest triumph would come at the war's end.
Below, a quick primer on the Last Hundred Days, the epic Canada-dominated finale to the Great War:
At one point, a quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
The Last Hundred Days began on August 8, 1918 with an all-out attack on German positions in Amiens. By day's end, Canadian soldiers had obliterated German defences and advanced an incredible 13 kilometres.
It was the most jaw-dropping allied victory ever seen in the First World War up to that point.
For context, it had taken months of fighting and 500,000 dead to gain only eight kilometres of ground at Passchendaele. Up until this point, many First World War battles had followed a predictable pattern:
A lengthy artillery barrage followed by fixed-bayonet human wave attacks across no-man's-land. At Amiens, Canada rolled out a strategy that prioritized speed and unpredictability above all else: Tanks, motorized machine guns, cavalry, storm troopers and intricately timed artillery barrages all thrown at the enemy in a dizzying tidal wave of force. Erich Ludendorff, who by this time had become the effective military dictator of Germany, referred to August 8 as the "black day" of the German army.
As the Canadian breakout continued relentlessly into the autumn, Canadian Corps commander Arthur Currie would estimate that
A field of German guns captured by the Canadian Corps in the war's final days. Library and Archives Canada
Germans may have explicitly avoided fighting Canadians until the very end
In the spring of 1918 Germany launched a last-ditch series of assaults designed to capture Paris and win the war before the United States army could show up in force. They devastated British lines to the Canadians' north and French lines to the Canadians' south, but the Canadians themselves eked out the offensive relatively untouched.
This may have been intentional: Canadian soldiers were s
A tank used in the Battle of Amiens, the opening engagement of the Last Hundred Days.
In the war's final months Canada would defeat 47 German divisions to the Americans' 46, despite suffering less than half the casualties.
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Chuck Bronson on November 10, 2018, 07:41:34 PM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on November 10, 2018, 07:41:34 PM
And what happened in WWI was essentially what caused WWII to happen...
Eastern Euro scum always causing problems...
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: cc on November 10, 2018, 07:50:15 PM
Post by: cc on November 10, 2018, 07:50:15 PM
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Chuck Bronson on November 10, 2018, 07:53:09 PM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on November 10, 2018, 07:53:09 PM
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Anonymous on November 10, 2018, 07:57:46 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 10, 2018, 07:57:46 PM
Canada at its deadliest: The epic war-winning battle you've never heard of
Canadian memories of the First World War generally stick to Vimy Ridge. Vimy Ridge is the site of Canada's official First World War memorial, and it's the only battlefield that's made its way onto our currency and passports.
But while Vimy may have represented a rare victory in the war's darkest depths, historians, military commanders and First World War veterans themselves were more inclined to believe that Canada's greatest triumph would come at the war's end.
Below, a quick primer on the Last Hundred Days, the epic Canada-dominated finale to the Great War:
At one point, a quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
The Last Hundred Days began on August 8, 1918 with an all-out attack on German positions in Amiens. By day's end, Canadian soldiers had obliterated German defences and advanced an incredible 13 kilometres.
It was the most jaw-dropping allied victory ever seen in the First World War up to that point.
For context, it had taken months of fighting and 500,000 dead to gain only eight kilometres of ground at Passchendaele. Up until this point, many First World War battles had followed a predictable pattern:
A lengthy artillery barrage followed by fixed-bayonet human wave attacks across no-man's-land. At Amiens, Canada rolled out a strategy that prioritized speed and unpredictability above all else: Tanks, motorized machine guns, cavalry, storm troopers and intricately timed artillery barrages all thrown at the enemy in a dizzying tidal wave of force. Erich Ludendorff, who by this time had become the effective military dictator of Germany, referred to August 8 as the "black day" of the German army.
As the Canadian breakout continued relentlessly into the autumn, Canadian Corps commander Arthur Currie would estimate thatone quarter of all Germans on the Western Front were being shot at by Canadians.
A field of German guns captured by the Canadian Corps in the war's final days. Library and Archives Canada(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://nationalpostcom.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/somanyguns.jpg?w=640&quality=60&strip=all%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://nationalpostcom.files.wordpress%20...%20&strip=all%22%3Ehttps://nationalpostcom.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/somanyguns.jpg?w=640&quality=60&strip=all%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Germans may have explicitly avoided fighting Canadians until the very end
In the spring of 1918 Germany launched a last-ditch series of assaults designed to capture Paris and win the war before the United States army could show up in force. They devastated British lines to the Canadians' north and French lines to the Canadians' south, but the Canadians themselves eked out the offensive relatively untouched.
This may have been intentional: Canadian soldiers were so fanatically committed to killing Germans that it often creeped out their fellow Allies. The British and French may have shared bread and chocolates with German troops during the famous Christmas Truce of 1914, but as soon as Canadian troops joined the war in 1915 they pursued Germany with "a vendetta which did not end until the war ended," wrote the British war correspondent Philip Gibbs.
A tank used in the Battle of Amiens, the opening engagement of the Last Hundred Days.(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://nationalpostcom.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/tank.jpg?w=640&quality=60&strip=all%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://nationalpostcom.files.wordpress%20...%20&strip=all%22%3Ehttps://nationalpostcom.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/tank.jpg?w=640&quality=60&strip=all%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Instead of winning the war, Germany's "Spring Offensive" had cost them tens of thousands of their best troops and had the unintended consequence of leaving Canada as one of the strongest armies left standing on the Western Front.
In the war's final months Canada would defeat 47 German divisions to the Americans' 46, despite suffering less than half the casualties.https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canada-at-its-deadliest-the-epic-war-winning-battle-youve-never-heard-of
Excellent thread cc.
Taiwan was part of Japan in world war one..
Tomorrow is Remember Day..
Be sure to observe silence for fallen soldies.
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: cc on November 10, 2018, 08:00:49 PM
Post by: cc on November 10, 2018, 08:00:49 PM
Open at the last page
It's very hard to read the last Operation Log Mission (Over Gardening) - the only entry not made by himself, rather by his Squadron Leader
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Anonymous on November 10, 2018, 08:04:07 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 10, 2018, 08:04:07 PM
I have my grandfather's WW2 Flight Book Log on my deskQuote from: "cc"
Open at the last page
It's very hard to read the last Operation Log Mission - the only entry not made by himself, rather by his Squadron Leader
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: cc on November 10, 2018, 08:08:54 PM
Post by: cc on November 10, 2018, 08:08:54 PM
Have been there
Ironically, his parents and he were responsible for the 1/4 German in me (Prussian) ... and further, one of the cities he bombed (noted in his log book) was where his grandparents were - Stuttgart
My grandmother told me how hard that was for him to do -
Being an Engineering grad, he was a natural for the position of Navigator
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Bricktop on November 10, 2018, 08:14:36 PM
Post by: Bricktop on November 10, 2018, 08:14:36 PM
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Anonymous on November 10, 2018, 08:49:42 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 10, 2018, 08:49:42 PM
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Zetsu on November 10, 2018, 10:32:51 PM
Post by: Zetsu on November 10, 2018, 10:32:51 PM
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Anonymous on November 10, 2018, 10:35:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 10, 2018, 10:35:00 PM
Unlike today, I keep forgetting that Canada once had an well respected military, not to mention during WWII the only armed forces that were ever there to defend Hong Kong from the full scale IJA invasion were the 2 battalion deployed from Canada.Quote from: "Zetsu"
I didn't know that Zetsu?
Do you mean they remained after Imperial Japan conquered the colony of Hong Kong..
The Japanese would have either tortured them or slaughtered them.
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Zetsu on November 10, 2018, 10:41:16 PM
Post by: Zetsu on November 10, 2018, 10:41:16 PM
Unlike today, I keep forgetting that Canada once had an well respected military, not to mention during WWII the only armed forces that were ever there to defend Hong Kong from the full scale IJA invasion were the 2 battalion deployed from Canada.Quote from: "Zetsu"
I didn't know that Zetsu?
Do you mean they remained after Imperial Japan conquered the colony of Hong Kong..
The Japanese would have either tortured them or slaughtered them.
Unfortunately many lost their lives, they were simply over whelmed... during that time the IJA beforehand already planned to use Hong Kong as one of the very few beachheads as a logistic point for the majority of their ground forces to enter into China.
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Anonymous on November 10, 2018, 10:51:35 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 10, 2018, 10:51:35 PM
Unlike today, I keep forgetting that Canada once had an well respected military, not to mention during WWII the only armed forces that were ever there to defend Hong Kong from the full scale IJA invasion were the 2 battalion deployed from Canada.Quote from: "Zetsu"
I didn't know that Zetsu?
Do you mean they remained after Imperial Japan conquered the colony of Hong Kong..
The Japanese would have either tortured them or slaughtered them.
Unfortunately many lost their lives, they were simply over whelmed... during that time the IJA beforehand already planned to use Hong Kong as one of the very few beachheads as a logistic point for the majority of their ground forces to enter into China.:sad:
Hong Kong was strategic to Imperial Japan..
I'd like to read more about this Zetsu.
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Anonymous on November 10, 2018, 11:00:16 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 10, 2018, 11:00:16 PM
Unlike today, I keep forgetting that Canada once had an well respected military, not to mention during WWII the only armed forces that were ever there to defend Hong Kong from the full scale IJA invasion were the 2 battalion deployed from Canada.Quote from: "Zetsu"
I didn't know that Zetsu?
Do you mean they remained after Imperial Japan conquered the colony of Hong Kong..
The Japanese would have either tortured them or slaughtered them.
Unfortunately many lost their lives, they were simply over whelmed... during that time the IJA beforehand already planned to use Hong Kong as one of the very few beachheads as a logistic point for the majority of their ground forces to enter into China.:sad:
Canada used to have a first rate military before Pierre Trudeau. Thanks for reminding us about our glory days brother.
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Zetsu on November 10, 2018, 11:20:27 PM
Post by: Zetsu on November 10, 2018, 11:20:27 PM
Unlike today, I keep forgetting that Canada once had an well respected military, not to mention during WWII the only armed forces that were ever there to defend Hong Kong from the full scale IJA invasion were the 2 battalion deployed from Canada.Quote from: "Zetsu"
I didn't know that Zetsu?
Do you mean they remained after Imperial Japan conquered the colony of Hong Kong..
The Japanese would have either tortured them or slaughtered them.
Unfortunately many lost their lives, they were simply over whelmed... during that time the IJA beforehand already planned to use Hong Kong as one of the very few beachheads as a logistic point for the majority of their ground forces to enter into China.:sad:
Hong Kong was strategic to Imperial Japan..
I'd like to read more about this Zetsu.
I guess Hong Kong had economical advantages for the Commonwealth and China, which I assume is important to take over that city first, along with a well developed infrastructure and her harbour serves as a key advantage for the Japanese army and navy to set up a base there, but this is just my guess.
There weren't much history recorded during the Japanese invasion of Hong Kong b/c I hate to say this but the fortification prepared in Hong Kong didn't lasted long, everything ended abruptly due to against the extremely overwhelming odds and as you already know the unforgiving nature of the IJA, almost everyone, soldiers, medical staff, civilians, etc all met the same horrible fate.
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Anonymous on November 10, 2018, 11:23:38 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 10, 2018, 11:23:38 PM
Unlike today, I keep forgetting that Canada once had an well respected military, not to mention during WWII the only armed forces that were ever there to defend Hong Kong from the full scale IJA invasion were the 2 battalion deployed from Canada.Quote from: "Zetsu"
I didn't know that Zetsu?
Do you mean they remained after Imperial Japan conquered the colony of Hong Kong..
The Japanese would have either tortured them or slaughtered them.
Unfortunately many lost their lives, they were simply over whelmed... during that time the IJA beforehand already planned to use Hong Kong as one of the very few beachheads as a logistic point for the majority of their ground forces to enter into China.:sad:
Hong Kong was strategic to Imperial Japan..
I'd like to read more about this Zetsu.
I guess Hong Kong had economical advantages for the Commonwealth and China, which I assume is important to take over that city first, along with a well developed infrastructure and her harbour serves as a key advantage for the Japanese army and navy to set up a base there, but this is just my guess.
There weren't much history recorded during the Japanese invasion of Hong Kong b/c I hate to say this but the fortification prepared in Hong Kong didn't lasted long, everything ended abruptly due to against the extremely overwhelming odds and as you already know the unforgiving nature of the IJA, almost everyone, soldiers, medical staff, civilians, etc all met the same horrible fate.
One big difference between Germany in WW2 and Japan and the Soviet Union was Germany kept accurate records of everything while Japan much less and the Soviet Union, little to nothing.
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Zetsu on November 10, 2018, 11:27:37 PM
Post by: Zetsu on November 10, 2018, 11:27:37 PM
Unlike today, I keep forgetting that Canada once had an well respected military, not to mention during WWII the only armed forces that were ever there to defend Hong Kong from the full scale IJA invasion were the 2 battalion deployed from Canada.Quote from: "Zetsu"
I didn't know that Zetsu?
Do you mean they remained after Imperial Japan conquered the colony of Hong Kong..
The Japanese would have either tortured them or slaughtered them.
Unfortunately many lost their lives, they were simply over whelmed... during that time the IJA beforehand already planned to use Hong Kong as one of the very few beachheads as a logistic point for the majority of their ground forces to enter into China.:sad:
Canada used to have a first rate military before Pierre Trudeau. Thanks for reminding us about our glory days brother.ac_drinks
I've still have yet to read the book "Who killed the Canadian military" in my brothers bedroom, but now that you've mentioned about that traitor I'm not one bit surprised, the libtards sure did a great job in ruining Canada for true Canadians.
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Anonymous on November 10, 2018, 11:29:15 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 10, 2018, 11:29:15 PM
Unlike today, I keep forgetting that Canada once had an well respected military, not to mention during WWII the only armed forces that were ever there to defend Hong Kong from the full scale IJA invasion were the 2 battalion deployed from Canada.Quote from: "Zetsu"
I didn't know that Zetsu?
Do you mean they remained after Imperial Japan conquered the colony of Hong Kong..
The Japanese would have either tortured them or slaughtered them.
Unfortunately many lost their lives, they were simply over whelmed... during that time the IJA beforehand already planned to use Hong Kong as one of the very few beachheads as a logistic point for the majority of their ground forces to enter into China.:sad:
Hong Kong was strategic to Imperial Japan..
I'd like to read more about this Zetsu.
I guess Hong Kong had economical advantages for the Commonwealth and China, which I assume is important to take over that city first, along with a well developed infrastructure and her harbour serves as a key advantage for the Japanese army and navy to set up a base there, but this is just my guess.
There weren't much history recorded during the Japanese invasion of Hong Kong b/c I hate to say this but the fortification prepared in Hong Kong didn't lasted long, everything ended abruptly due to against the extremely overwhelming odds and as you already know the unforgiving nature of the IJA, almost everyone, soldiers, medical staff, civilians, etc all met the same horrible fate.
Hong Kong was very important to Japan.
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Zetsu on November 10, 2018, 11:33:41 PM
Post by: Zetsu on November 10, 2018, 11:33:41 PM
Unlike today, I keep forgetting that Canada once had an well respected military, not to mention during WWII the only armed forces that were ever there to defend Hong Kong from the full scale IJA invasion were the 2 battalion deployed from Canada.Quote from: "Zetsu"
I didn't know that Zetsu?
Do you mean they remained after Imperial Japan conquered the colony of Hong Kong..
The Japanese would have either tortured them or slaughtered them.
Unfortunately many lost their lives, they were simply over whelmed... during that time the IJA beforehand already planned to use Hong Kong as one of the very few beachheads as a logistic point for the majority of their ground forces to enter into China.:sad:
Hong Kong was strategic to Imperial Japan..
I'd like to read more about this Zetsu.
I guess Hong Kong had economical advantages for the Commonwealth and China, which I assume is important to take over that city first, along with a well developed infrastructure and her harbour serves as a key advantage for the Japanese army and navy to set up a base there, but this is just my guess.
There weren't much history recorded during the Japanese invasion of Hong Kong b/c I hate to say this but the fortification prepared in Hong Kong didn't lasted long, everything ended abruptly due to against the extremely overwhelming odds and as you already know the unforgiving nature of the IJA, almost everyone, soldiers, medical staff, civilians, etc all met the same horrible fate.
One big difference between Germany in WW2 and Japan and the Soviet Union was Germany kept accurate records of everything while Japan much less and the Soviet Union, little to nothing.
What you say makes sense considering what the Japanese did, espeically their atrocity involving of disecting people without anesthetic or having a contest of seeing who can chop off the most civilian heads made the Nazis look like a saint.
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Anonymous on November 10, 2018, 11:40:05 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 10, 2018, 11:40:05 PM
Unlike today, I keep forgetting that Canada once had an well respected military, not to mention during WWII the only armed forces that were ever there to defend Hong Kong from the full scale IJA invasion were the 2 battalion deployed from Canada.Quote from: "Zetsu"
I didn't know that Zetsu?
Do you mean they remained after Imperial Japan conquered the colony of Hong Kong..
The Japanese would have either tortured them or slaughtered them.
Unfortunately many lost their lives, they were simply over whelmed... during that time the IJA beforehand already planned to use Hong Kong as one of the very few beachheads as a logistic point for the majority of their ground forces to enter into China.:sad:
Hong Kong was strategic to Imperial Japan..
I'd like to read more about this Zetsu.
I guess Hong Kong had economical advantages for the Commonwealth and China, which I assume is important to take over that city first, along with a well developed infrastructure and her harbour serves as a key advantage for the Japanese army and navy to set up a base there, but this is just my guess.
There weren't much history recorded during the Japanese invasion of Hong Kong b/c I hate to say this but the fortification prepared in Hong Kong didn't lasted long, everything ended abruptly due to against the extremely overwhelming odds and as you already know the unforgiving nature of the IJA, almost everyone, soldiers, medical staff, civilians, etc all met the same horrible fate.
One big difference between Germany in WW2 and Japan and the Soviet Union was Germany kept accurate records of everything while Japan much less and the Soviet Union, little to nothing.
What you say makes sense considering what the Japanese did, espeically their atrocity involving of disecting people without anesthetic or having a contest of seeing who can chop off the most civilian heads made the Nazis look like a saint.
The lack of a paper trail made it difficult for the Americans to prosecute more senior IJA officials at the Tokyo war crimes trial. More brutal senior Japanese officials should have been hung than what the Americans executed.
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: cc on November 10, 2018, 11:53:18 PM
Post by: cc on November 10, 2018, 11:53:18 PM
Canada did well for itself in all services during ww2. Much of the Army was in UK for Channel crossing ... and many were in S Africa > up through Italy and into the nazi underbelly
As to Navy, Canada became famous for the Corvettes .. built here for Can & Brits .. later for US .. ships accompanying freighters to England .. sub hunters hastily designed from whaling ships .. used to fill a gap until full destroyers came on line
Early in the war, Canadians flew for the RAF flying mainly Lancasters. (been in the one at Hamilton ON and got a run-though from people who actually flew them in combat). My grandpappy flew with one of the first RCAF squadrons to fly out of Britain, the Bluenose flying Halifax bombers out of S Yorkshire
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Anonymous on November 11, 2018, 08:14:07 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 11, 2018, 08:14:07 AM
Asia saw a hell and for a longer time period.Quote from: "cc"
Canada did well for itself in all services during ww2. Much of the Army was in UK for Channel crossing ... and many were in S Africa > up through Italy and into the nazi underbelly
As to Navy, Canada became famous for the Corvettes .. built here for Can & Brits .. later for US .. ships accompanying freighters to England .. sub hunters hastily designed from whaling ships .. used to fill a gap until full destroyers came on line
Early in the war, Canadians flew for the RAF flying mainly Lancasters. (been in the one at Hamilton ON and got a run-though from people who actually flew them in combat). My grandpappy flew with one of the first RCAF squadrons to fly out of Britain, the Bluenose flying Halifax bombers out of S Yorkshire
Good information and great picture cc.
Be sure to observe silence today at eleven am everyone.
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Skippy on November 11, 2018, 08:20:45 AM
Post by: Skippy on November 11, 2018, 08:20:45 AM
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Anonymous on November 11, 2018, 08:23:13 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 11, 2018, 08:23:13 AM
Canada at its deadliest: The epic war-winning battle you've never heard of
Canadian memories of the First World War generally stick to Vimy Ridge. Vimy Ridge is the site of Canada's official First World War memorial, and it's the only battlefield that's made its way onto our currency and passports.
But while Vimy may have represented a rare victory in the war's darkest depths, historians, military commanders and First World War veterans themselves were more inclined to believe that Canada's greatest triumph would come at the war's end.
Below, a quick primer on the Last Hundred Days, the epic Canada-dominated finale to the Great War:
At one point, a quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
The Last Hundred Days began on August 8, 1918 with an all-out attack on German positions in Amiens. By day's end, Canadian soldiers had obliterated German defences and advanced an incredible 13 kilometres.
It was the most jaw-dropping allied victory ever seen in the First World War up to that point.
For context, it had taken months of fighting and 500,000 dead to gain only eight kilometres of ground at Passchendaele. Up until this point, many First World War battles had followed a predictable pattern:
A lengthy artillery barrage followed by fixed-bayonet human wave attacks across no-man's-land. At Amiens, Canada rolled out a strategy that prioritized speed and unpredictability above all else: Tanks, motorized machine guns, cavalry, storm troopers and intricately timed artillery barrages all thrown at the enemy in a dizzying tidal wave of force. Erich Ludendorff, who by this time had become the effective military dictator of Germany, referred to August 8 as the "black day" of the German army.
As the Canadian breakout continued relentlessly into the autumn, Canadian Corps commander Arthur Currie would estimate thatone quarter of all Germans on the Western Front were being shot at by Canadians.
A field of German guns captured by the Canadian Corps in the war's final days. Library and Archives Canada(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://nationalpostcom.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/somanyguns.jpg?w=640&quality=60&strip=all%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://nationalpostcom.files.wordpress%20...%20&strip=all%22%3Ehttps://nationalpostcom.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/somanyguns.jpg?w=640&quality=60&strip=all%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Germans may have explicitly avoided fighting Canadians until the very end
In the spring of 1918 Germany launched a last-ditch series of assaults designed to capture Paris and win the war before the United States army could show up in force. They devastated British lines to the Canadians' north and French lines to the Canadians' south, but the Canadians themselves eked out the offensive relatively untouched.
This may have been intentional: Canadian soldiers were so fanatically committed to killing Germans that it often creeped out their fellow Allies. The British and French may have shared bread and chocolates with German troops during the famous Christmas Truce of 1914, but as soon as Canadian troops joined the war in 1915 they pursued Germany with "a vendetta which did not end until the war ended," wrote the British war correspondent Philip Gibbs.
A tank used in the Battle of Amiens, the opening engagement of the Last Hundred Days.(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://nationalpostcom.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/tank.jpg?w=640&quality=60&strip=all%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://nationalpostcom.files.wordpress%20...%20&strip=all%22%3Ehttps://nationalpostcom.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/tank.jpg?w=640&quality=60&strip=all%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Instead of winning the war, Germany's "Spring Offensive" had cost them tens of thousands of their best troops and had the unintended consequence of leaving Canada as one of the strongest armies left standing on the Western Front.
In the war's final months Canada would defeat 47 German divisions to the Americans' 46, despite suffering less than half the casualties.https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canada-at-its-deadliest-the-epic-war-winning-battle-youve-never-heard-of
Excellent thread cc.
:smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
Taiwan was part of Japan in world war one..
Tomorrow is Remember Day..
Be sure to observe silence for fallen soldies.
Korea too was part of the Japanese Empire in WW2. I bought my poppy and I will observe two minutes of silence right on eleven am.
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Anonymous on November 11, 2018, 09:23:41 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 11, 2018, 09:23:41 AM
Unlike today, I keep forgetting that Canada once had a well respected military, not to mention during WWII the only armed forces that were ever there to defend Hong Kong from the full scale IJA invasion were the 2 battalion deployed from Canada.Quote from: "Zetsu"
Canadian soldiers were brave unlike the Brits.
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on November 11, 2018, 11:08:08 AM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on November 11, 2018, 11:08:08 AM
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: JOE on November 11, 2018, 06:40:05 PM
Post by: JOE on November 11, 2018, 06:40:05 PM
Canada was fighting a war on behalf of the British as a colonial power which the British were largely responsible and at fault for starting. If the Germans were to blame, then the British were equally at fault.
The idea that our soldiers hacked up or mutilated some young naive German boy who probably attended Church every Sunday does not gladden my heart in the least.
The Allied soldiers also killed a lot of German civilians and raped their women too.
I think the focus of Remembrance Day should be less about beating the stuffing out of some Germans who were more or less defending their home soil than about a collective suffering the world had experienced. More a 'We are all human' mentality.
I think the North Americans see the wars as a victory over the Germans while the Europeans think of it as a period of tremendous suffering in which neither side won, but lost a great deal.
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Anonymous on November 11, 2018, 07:15:45 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 11, 2018, 07:15:45 PM
My sons' grandfather was a very good cook from the South and he was in the kitchen when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. He survived to tell that story.Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"
And good stories they must have been.
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Bricktop on November 11, 2018, 07:20:48 PM
Post by: Bricktop on November 11, 2018, 07:20:48 PM
Like Australia, Canada was called to arms by the UK in accordance with their defence pact.
However, what you and many other "historians" fail to acknowledge is that should Canada or Australia be subjected to attack, the British were committed to the defence of those nations.
This is probably why your country exists today. Touch Canada, and Britain will intervene. And make no mistake, up to and including WW2, the UK's armed forces were formidable, whilst Canada and Australian forces were little more than boy scout groups, with no deep sea navy, no long reach air force and an almost impotent ground based army.
Things may have changed...but rest assured, if Canada was threatened, the UK, the US, Australia and New Zealand would step up.
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Chuck Bronson on November 11, 2018, 09:26:27 PM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on November 11, 2018, 09:26:27 PM
Regardless, what happened in WWI was exactly why WWII happened.
I won't wear a poppy simply because people have been dumbed down to believe it was all Germany's fault. Everything was Germany's fault. Look a little deeper into it, and one will realize that it just wasn't as 'simple' as that.
I feel for every man, woman and child that was forced into these wars. I don't care what 'side' they were on. It was an ugly time, and nobody 'won.' Most of these men were simply just used as tools, and honestly had no business fighting in a war that had nothing to do with them.
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Anonymous on November 11, 2018, 09:28:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 11, 2018, 09:28:00 PM
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Bricktop on November 11, 2018, 09:28:29 PM
Post by: Bricktop on November 11, 2018, 09:28:29 PM
I have refused to wear a poppy for years, for personal reasons. Nonetheless, to this day nobody is even clear or agrees on what exactly started WWI. On a basic level, some claim that Serbia started it.Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
Regardless, what happened in WWI was exactly why WWII happened.
I won't wear a poppy simply because people have been dumbed down to believe it was all Germany's fault. Everything was Germany's fault. Look a little deeper into it, and one will realize that it just wasn't as 'simple' as that.
That's actually a fair position.
You must be sober.
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Chuck Bronson on November 11, 2018, 09:41:48 PM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on November 11, 2018, 09:41:48 PM
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: JOE on November 12, 2018, 01:22:06 AM
Post by: JOE on November 12, 2018, 01:22:06 AM
The victorious allies weren't necessarilly gracious.
They dod not always respect the eople they conaqueeed or defeated as this vlip about World IiI indicates:
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Chuck Bronson on November 12, 2018, 01:25:27 AM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on November 12, 2018, 01:25:27 AM
The war was bad, but for anyone to take sides, is nothing more than attempting to rewrite history.
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Chuck Bronson on November 12, 2018, 01:33:55 AM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on November 12, 2018, 01:33:55 AM
MOST of those men, doesn't matter what side they were sent to fight for, had NO business being there.
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Anonymous on November 12, 2018, 03:36:10 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 12, 2018, 03:36:10 AM
Unlike today, I keep forgetting that Canada once had an well respected military, not to mention during WWII the only armed forces that were ever there to defend Hong Kong from the full scale IJA invasion were the 2 battalion deployed from Canada.Quote from: "Zetsu"
I didn't know that Zetsu?
Do you mean they remained after Imperial Japan conquered the colony of Hong Kong..
The Japanese would have either tortured them or slaughtered them.
Unfortunately many lost their lives, they were simply over whelmed... during that time the IJA beforehand already planned to use Hong Kong as one of the very few beachheads as a logistic point for the majority of their ground forces to enter into China.:sad:
Hong Kong was strategic to Imperial Japan..
I'd like to read more about this Zetsu.
I guess Hong Kong had economical advantages for the Commonwealth and China, which I assume is important to take over that city first, along with a well developed infrastructure and her harbour serves as a key advantage for the Japanese army and navy to set up a base there, but this is just my guess.
There weren't much history recorded during the Japanese invasion of Hong Kong b/c I hate to say this but the fortification prepared in Hong Kong didn't lasted long, everything ended abruptly due to against the extremely overwhelming odds and as you already know the unforgiving nature of the IJA, almost everyone, soldiers, medical staff, civilians, etc all met the same horrible fate.
One big difference between Germany in WW2 and Japan and the Soviet Union was Germany kept accurate records of everything while Japan much less and the Soviet Union, little to nothing.
What you say makes sense considering what the Japanese did, espeically their atrocity involving of disecting people without anesthetic or having a contest of seeing who can chop off the most civilian heads made the Nazis look like a saint.
What's not widely known is that many of the most brutal soldiers in the Japanese army were actually Koreans.
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: cc on November 12, 2018, 04:06:18 AM
Post by: cc on November 12, 2018, 04:06:18 AM
You are a full kra-t head and with nazi sympathies expressed
Don't wear what you want, but you are dishonest as to why ... no better than our resident nazi, who at least admits the scum he is
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Chuck Bronson on November 12, 2018, 04:09:23 AM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on November 12, 2018, 04:09:23 AM
I can live with my decision.
And I have no desire to even explain my ideals to you, CC. I am NOT a Nazi, but you are convinced that I am.
You are a deluded and delusional old lady, that thinks by spending her free time online, you can change the world...
You can't. And you won't.
You think you are smart and clever... You are neither.
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Chuck Bronson on November 12, 2018, 04:39:27 AM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on November 12, 2018, 04:39:27 AM
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Chuck Bronson on November 12, 2018, 04:50:35 AM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on November 12, 2018, 04:50:35 AM
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: JOE on November 12, 2018, 12:34:14 PM
Post by: JOE on November 12, 2018, 12:34:14 PM
Look up the Wolf Children, Joe...Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
The war was bad, but for anyone to take sides, is nothing more than attempting to rewrite history.
To kill male armed German soldiers in combat was one thing, but to harm civilian German children & defenseless housewives was truly unacceptable. Not only in this time but even within the context of that one too. I am sad for them when I think what they had gone through.
In so doing the allies may have broken the Geneva conventions.
So it taints the legacy of the allies somewhat of noble & merciful liberators.
Now we get a clearer view of what some of our daddies did in the war.
Relatively speaking, the allies were much more merciful in their occupation of post ww11 war Japan, yet sadly they did not extend that courtesy to German civilians after that war.
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Anonymous on November 12, 2018, 12:51:54 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 12, 2018, 12:51:54 PM
You can bash the report button also, CC.... when you see something that you don't like.Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
There has only been one poster here who used and abused the report button and that was Twenty Dollars.
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: cc on November 12, 2018, 01:47:40 PM
Post by: cc on November 12, 2018, 01:47:40 PM
Why would anyone bother to report an
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Anonymous on November 12, 2018, 02:18:06 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 12, 2018, 02:18:06 PM
You can bash the report button also, CC.... when you see something that you don't like.Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
There has only been one poster here who used and abused the report button and that was Twenty Dollars.
Any bets on how long before he is banned from VF?
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Zetsu on November 13, 2018, 03:12:31 PM
Post by: Zetsu on November 13, 2018, 03:12:31 PM
Unlike today, I keep forgetting that Canada once had an well respected military, not to mention during WWII the only armed forces that were ever there to defend Hong Kong from the full scale IJA invasion were the 2 battalion deployed from Canada.Quote from: "Zetsu"
I didn't know that Zetsu?
Do you mean they remained after Imperial Japan conquered the colony of Hong Kong..
The Japanese would have either tortured them or slaughtered them.
Unfortunately many lost their lives, they were simply over whelmed... during that time the IJA beforehand already planned to use Hong Kong as one of the very few beachheads as a logistic point for the majority of their ground forces to enter into China.:sad:
Hong Kong was strategic to Imperial Japan..
I'd like to read more about this Zetsu.
I guess Hong Kong had economical advantages for the Commonwealth and China, which I assume is important to take over that city first, along with a well developed infrastructure and her harbour serves as a key advantage for the Japanese army and navy to set up a base there, but this is just my guess.
There weren't much history recorded during the Japanese invasion of Hong Kong b/c I hate to say this but the fortification prepared in Hong Kong didn't lasted long, everything ended abruptly due to against the extremely overwhelming odds and as you already know the unforgiving nature of the IJA, almost everyone, soldiers, medical staff, civilians, etc all met the same horrible fate.
One big difference between Germany in WW2 and Japan and the Soviet Union was Germany kept accurate records of everything while Japan much less and the Soviet Union, little to nothing.
What you say makes sense considering what the Japanese did, espeically their atrocity involving of disecting people without anesthetic or having a contest of seeing who can chop off the most civilian heads made the Nazis look like a saint.
What's not widely known is that many of the most brutal soldiers in the Japanese army were actually Koreans.
I thought they were all J@ps, but it doesn't sound surprising and makes sense if there were Korean soldiers too in the IJA.
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Anonymous on November 13, 2018, 03:20:57 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 13, 2018, 03:20:57 PM
Unlike today, I keep forgetting that Canada once had an well respected military, not to mention during WWII the only armed forces that were ever there to defend Hong Kong from the full scale IJA invasion were the 2 battalion deployed from Canada.Quote from: "Zetsu"
I didn't know that Zetsu?
Do you mean they remained after Imperial Japan conquered the colony of Hong Kong..
The Japanese would have either tortured them or slaughtered them.
Unfortunately many lost their lives, they were simply over whelmed... during that time the IJA beforehand already planned to use Hong Kong as one of the very few beachheads as a logistic point for the majority of their ground forces to enter into China.:sad:
Hong Kong was strategic to Imperial Japan..
I'd like to read more about this Zetsu.
I guess Hong Kong had economical advantages for the Commonwealth and China, which I assume is important to take over that city first, along with a well developed infrastructure and her harbour serves as a key advantage for the Japanese army and navy to set up a base there, but this is just my guess.
There weren't much history recorded during the Japanese invasion of Hong Kong b/c I hate to say this but the fortification prepared in Hong Kong didn't lasted long, everything ended abruptly due to against the extremely overwhelming odds and as you already know the unforgiving nature of the IJA, almost everyone, soldiers, medical staff, civilians, etc all met the same horrible fate.
One big difference between Germany in WW2 and Japan and the Soviet Union was Germany kept accurate records of everything while Japan much less and the Soviet Union, little to nothing.
What you say makes sense considering what the Japanese did, espeically their atrocity involving of disecting people without anesthetic or having a contest of seeing who can chop off the most civilian heads made the Nazis look like a saint.
What's not widely known is that many of the most brutal soldiers in the Japanese army were actually Koreans.
I thought they were all J@ps, but it doesn't sound surprising and makes sense if there were Korean soldiers too in the IJA.
Korea was annexed by Japan in 1910. Koreans were conscripted into the IJA. Koreans got the front line positions. It's highly likely that Koreans were full participants in the atrocities carried out the conquering Japanese military.
Needless to say, this is extremely controversial in Korea.
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Chuck Bronson on November 13, 2018, 03:30:03 PM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on November 13, 2018, 03:30:03 PM
Any bets on how long before he is banned from VF?Quote from: "seoulbro"
He won't get banned. You must understand how that forum works... Posters of limited intellect are tolerated, no matter how shitty they are, since they pose no real threat. Always been that way with those two.
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Anonymous on November 13, 2018, 03:38:50 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 13, 2018, 03:38:50 PM
Any bets on how long before he is banned from VF?Quote from: "seoulbro"
He won't get banned. You must understand how that forum works... Posters of limited intellect are tolerated, no matter how shitty they are, since they pose no real threat. Always been that way with those two.
If the owner resumes her admin duties he will be getting regular time outs. Evs has had enough of that social misfit.
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Chuck Bronson on November 13, 2018, 03:41:41 PM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on November 13, 2018, 03:41:41 PM
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Anonymous on November 14, 2018, 12:15:09 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 14, 2018, 12:15:09 AM
If Evs wanted him gone, he'd be gone. Trust me...Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
Mimi seems to tolerate the old retard more than evs does.
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Bricktop on November 14, 2018, 02:29:45 AM
Post by: Bricktop on November 14, 2018, 02:29:45 AM
Title: Re: In the final days of the First World War, up to one quarter of the German Army was running from Canadians
Post by: Anonymous on November 14, 2018, 08:58:09 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 14, 2018, 08:58:09 AM
And I can't even get past the door...Quote from: "Bricktop"
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