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Quote from: "Bricktop"All the above highlights that modern democracy is a total catastrophe. Wherever it is practiced.



I have no faith in the system any more, and many people I know in Australia feel the same.



Adversarial politics is tearing our nations apart.

Quote from: "Bricktop"We already know what they are about. Whatever the other guys are NOT about.



Contrariness for it's own sake is the platform of modern politics. Political power is the aim, not the greater good.



Just look at the recent US elections. It was all about "winning" and keeping "power". Opposition parties are no longer different, or misguided or wrong, they are evil.



We no longer accept the principle of majority rules...a flawed and ludicrously outdated foundation of government. We are fracturing into sub-tribes, each wanting what's best for them, and to hell with the larger population.



It is unsustainable, and there will be no soft landing, because the very people who have the power to make changes are the same who profit most from the existing chaos.

Quote from: "Bricktop"It is the same in every democracy.



Instead of policies, and promises rarely kept anyway, opposition parties merely focus on highlighting how evil the other side is. Australia and the UK are no different. Traditionally, during election campaigns, parties would tell the public their plans if elected.



The problem with that is that many of those plans never came to fruition, and we learned that any election promises were simply there to get as much attention as possible.



So now the campaigning is largely negative. "We are not them" is the central platform.



Our systems are not only dysfunctional, they are corrupt by definition. The entire process is controlled and choreographed by political parties, who act outside of public scrutiny and accountability.

Quote from: "Bricktop"Point well made.



As I have maintained, the real impact of Trump will not be during his tenure, but afterwards. Will his successor follow the template Trump has utilised in getting things done? Or will the Trump era be a blip on the US political radar.



Equally importantly is will Trump inspire copy cat politicians in other countries?

Quote from: "seoulbro"Most of their big donors are on both coasts and have very different interests than working class people in the centre of the country.

Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"I'm still waiting for Trump to make improvements to the infrastructure. He promised this during his campaign but has had not yet delivered.

Quote from: "Wazzzup"I could list a lot of things wrong with the democrat party, but it doesn't matter they will win, and everything they, and the rest of the left are doing that is bad will only get 10 times worse.



the key is immigration



Every year the US takes in 1.5 to 2 million legal and illegal immigrants.  2/3 of them vote democrat.  If half of them vote, how long before democrats have a monopoly on power? it's really an easy 5th grade math problem.  The answer is only a few years.



Joe's warnings are upside down. The democrats will run everything soon and they will become more extreme with every victory.  A democrat monopoly will produce an increasingly totalitarian leftist society complete with more activist violence.  I don't know exactly what it will look like, but it won't be pretty.



America as we know it is finished.

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Quote from: "Wazzzup"I could list a lot of things wrong with the democrat party, but it doesn't matter they will win, and everything they, and the rest of the left are doing that is bad will only get 10 times worse.



the key is immigration



Every year the US takes in 1.5 to 2 million legal and illegal immigrants.  2/3 of them vote democrat.  If half of them vote, how long before democrats have a monopoly on power? it's really an easy 5th grade math problem.  The answer is only a few years.



Joe's warnings are upside down. The democrats will run everything soon and they will become more extreme with every victory.  A democrat monopoly will produce an increasingly totalitarian leftist society complete with more activist violence.  I don't know exactly what it will look like, but it won't be pretty.



America as we know it is finished.

Joe knows his "warning" are upside down. If they were right side up, they would be useless troll material.

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Quote from: "seoulbro"

Quote from: "Wazzzup"I could list a lot of things wrong with the democrat party, but it doesn't matter they will win, and everything they, and the rest of the left are doing that is bad will only get 10 times worse.



the key is immigration



Every year the US takes in 1.5 to 2 million legal and illegal immigrants.  2/3 of them vote democrat.  If half of them vote, how long before democrats have a monopoly on power? it's really an easy 5th grade math problem.  The answer is only a few years.



Joe's warnings are upside down. The democrats will run everything soon and they will become more extreme with every victory.  A democrat monopoly will produce an increasingly totalitarian leftist society complete with more activist violence.  I don't know exactly what it will look like, but it won't be pretty.



America as we know it is finished.

Joe knows his "warning" are upside down. If they were right side up, they would be useless troll material.

Well one key measure I support are abortion and birth control.



Both appear to be what the US Republican party are against.

Quote from: "cc"Well Joe if you get pregnant, do eet  .. please

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Quote from: "cc"Well Joe if you get pregnant, do eet  .. please

Well cc a 40 year old friend of mine recently knocked up his 25 year old gf.



Now he's shittin bricks tryin ta figger out how he's gonna pay for the new child.



Even if the guy doesn't carry the pregnancy he almost may as well given the financial responsibility he'll have to carry after the child comes out.

Quote from: "cc"Joe's friends lol .. he just makes them up to attention whore



and as a leadin / ploy for some whacky statement he wants to make



The funny part is that he doesn't know  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4rf7bAApM4

Quote from: "Bricktop"The world as we know it will change significantly.



Not just America.



The entire planet has been poisoned by socialism.

Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"They are all suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome. Anyone on the left is focused on getting rid of Trump. I am looking for someone who will stand up against both parties actually to end this division. I miss the days of bipartisanship where at the end of the day, they are friends even if they have totally different agendas and from different parties. What happened to those days? What has caused all this? Is there no turning back the clock? Is it only going to get worse? It's just a shame.

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Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"They are all suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome. Anyone on the left is focused on getting rid of Trump. I am looking for someone who will stand up against both parties actually to end this division. I miss the days of bipartisanship where at the end of the day, they are friends even if they have totally different agendas and from different parties. What happened to those days? What has caused all this? Is there no turning back the clock? Is it only going to get worse? It's just a shame.

Sadly, those days are long gone and it will only get worse.  Because of US immigration policies the democrats pick up hundreds of thousands of new voters ever year.  At this rate in 12 years or less nearly every northern state will be a deep blue, just like california, as well as some southern ones,.  The democrats will have power over nearly everything.  They will get more and more extreme and their antifa minions will become more violent as the dems cheer them on.



Like the saying goes--  Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Quote from: "JOE"

Quote from: "Wazzzup"

Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"They are all suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome. Anyone on the left is focused on getting rid of Trump. I am looking for someone who will stand up against both parties actually to end this division. I miss the days of bipartisanship where at the end of the day, they are friends even if they have totally different agendas and from different parties. What happened to those days? What has caused all this? Is there no turning back the clock? Is it only going to get worse? It's just a shame.

Sadly, those days are long gone and it will only get worse.  Because of US immigration policies the democrats pick up hundreds of thousands of new voters ever year.  At this rate in 12 years or less nearly every northern state will be a deep blue, just like california, as well as some southern ones,.  The democrats will have power over nearly everything.  They will get more and more extreme and their antifa minions will become more violent as the dems cheer them on.



Like the saying goes--  Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Well if that's true, then the Republican Party is just as extreme as the Democrats.



This extremism manifests itself in either party trying to outspend each other.



The Republicans want unrealistic, unsustainable tax cuts to among other things, fight wars & support an ultra expensive state of the art military machine. Hey dumbos- that requires taxes just like it did during the cold war when taxation rates in the USA where over twice as high as they are today. And that was under the administration of Dwight Eisenhower when the Republicans also controlled Congress during the 1950s. Incidentally, Eisenhower produced budgetary surpluses not deficits.



The Democrats want their entitlements to among other things, fund an ultra expensive healthcare system known as Obamacare. And I agree with American tourists I spoke with....why did the damn rates keep going up? That didn't make any sense. No fee payer system should cost that much to set up and maintain. I agree there was something wrong with that system.



The bottom line is - whatever your party affiliation I think the USA spends too much and doesnt tax enough for what it wants. Hence the sky high projected trillion dollar deficits. Soon it's national debu will exceed its gdp. That is not a healthy ratio. I'd worry about the debt if I were the USA.



I'd be more concerned about bringing down the US debt than coddling spoiled pampered billionaires or accommodating gen xers who want the state to give them something for nothing.



Didn't Alexander Tytler darkly prophesize that democracy ends when it's citizens vote themselves the treasury?



Incidentally I may consider voting Conservative in Canada if Trudeau doesn't smarten up, curtail spending and bring down our debt. He promised stimulus spending to revive the economy, but now that its in full swing he oughta shut off the tap. I actually agree with Tory leader Andrew Scheer. Theres simply no need at the present moment to be running deficts. The party in power should be cutting spending and socking away surpluses now for a rainy day.

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Quote from: "JOE"

Quote from: "Wazzzup"

Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"They are all suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome. Anyone on the left is focused on getting rid of Trump. I am looking for someone who will stand up against both parties actually to end this division. I miss the days of bipartisanship where at the end of the day, they are friends even if they have totally different agendas and from different parties. What happened to those days? What has caused all this? Is there no turning back the clock? Is it only going to get worse? It's just a shame.

Sadly, those days are long gone and it will only get worse.  Because of US immigration policies the democrats pick up hundreds of thousands of new voters ever year.  At this rate in 12 years or less nearly every northern state will be a deep blue, just like california, as well as some southern ones,.  The democrats will have power over nearly everything.  They will get more and more extreme and their antifa minions will become more violent as the dems cheer them on.



Like the saying goes--  Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Well if that's true, then the Republican Party is just as extreme as the Democrats.



This extremism manifests itself in either party trying to outspend each other.



The Republicans want unrealistic, unsustainable tax cuts to among other things, fight wars & support an ultra expensive state of the art military machine. Hey dumbos- that requires taxes just like it did during the cold war when taxation rates in the USA where over twice as high as they are today. And that was under the administration of Dwight Eisenhower when the Republicans also controlled Congress during the 1950s. Incidentally, Eisenhower produced budgetary surpluses not deficits.



The Democrats want their entitlements to among other things, fund an ultra expensive healthcare system known as Obamacare. And I agree with American tourists I spoke with....why did the damn rates keep going up? That didn't make any sense. No fee payer system should cost that much to set up and maintain. I agree there was something wrong with that system.



The bottom line is - whatever your party affiliation I think the USA spends too much and doesnt tax enough for what it wants. Hence the sky high projected trillion dollar deficits. Soon it's national debu will exceed its gdp. That is not a healthy ratio. I'd worry about the debt if I were the USA.



I'd be more concerned about bringing down the US debt than coddling spoiled pampered billionaires or accommodating gen xers who want the state to give them something for nothing.



Didn't Alexander Tytler darkly prophesize that democracy ends when it's citizens vote themselves the treasury?



Incidentally I may consider voting Conservative in Canada if Trudeau doesn't smarten up, curtail spending and bring down our debt. He promised stimulus spending to revive the economy, but now that its in full swing he oughta shut off the tap. I actually agree with Tory leader Andrew Scheer. Theres simply no need at the present moment to be running deficts. The party in power should be cutting spending and socking away surpluses now for a rainy day.

Read Seoul's article..



Tax cuts produced more revenue,  not less and tax increases here(federally and in Alberta) did not produce the revenue we were told they would..



And you didn't read what Wazzzup wrote either.

Quote from: "Wazzzup"

Quote from: "Fashionista"

Quote from: "JOE"

Quote from: "Wazzzup"

Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"They are all suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome. Anyone on the left is focused on getting rid of Trump. I am looking for someone who will stand up against both parties actually to end this division. I miss the days of bipartisanship where at the end of the day, they are friends even if they have totally different agendas and from different parties. What happened to those days? What has caused all this? Is there no turning back the clock? Is it only going to get worse? It's just a shame.

Sadly, those days are long gone and it will only get worse.  Because of US immigration policies the democrats pick up hundreds of thousands of new voters ever year.  At this rate in 12 years or less nearly every northern state will be a deep blue, just like california, as well as some southern ones,.  The democrats will have power over nearly everything.  They will get more and more extreme and their antifa minions will become more violent as the dems cheer them on.



Like the saying goes--  Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Well if that's true, then the Republican Party is just as extreme as the Democrats.



This extremism manifests itself in either party trying to outspend each other.



The Republicans want unrealistic, unsustainable tax cuts to among other things, fight wars & support an ultra expensive state of the art military machine. Hey dumbos- that requires taxes just like it did during the cold war when taxation rates in the USA where over twice as high as they are today. And that was under the administration of Dwight Eisenhower when the Republicans also controlled Congress during the 1950s. Incidentally, Eisenhower produced budgetary surpluses not deficits.



The Democrats want their entitlements to among other things, fund an ultra expensive healthcare system known as Obamacare. And I agree with American tourists I spoke with....why did the damn rates keep going up? That didn't make any sense. No fee payer system should cost that much to set up and maintain. I agree there was something wrong with that system.



The bottom line is - whatever your party affiliation I think the USA spends too much and doesnt tax enough for what it wants. Hence the sky high projected trillion dollar deficits. Soon it's national debu will exceed its gdp. That is not a healthy ratio. I'd worry about the debt if I were the USA.



I'd be more concerned about bringing down the US debt than coddling spoiled pampered billionaires or accommodating gen xers who want the state to give them something for nothing.



Didn't Alexander Tytler darkly prophesize that democracy ends when it's citizens vote themselves the treasury?



Incidentally I may consider voting Conservative in Canada if Trudeau doesn't smarten up, curtail spending and bring down our debt. He promised stimulus spending to revive the economy, but now that its in full swing he oughta shut off the tap. I actually agree with Tory leader Andrew Scheer. Theres simply no need at the present moment to be running deficts. The party in power should be cutting spending and socking away surpluses now for a rainy day.

Read Seoul's article..



Tax cuts produced more revenue,  not less and tax increases here(federally and in Alberta) did not produce the revenue we were told they would..



And you didn't read what Wazzzup wrote either.

That is the premise of Joes post-- that tax cuts are bad because they reduce federal revenues.   SB debunked that entire premise before Joe even posted, but Joe never paid any attention.  https://thebluecashew.net/the-blue-cashew-f2/tax-cuts-not-reduce-federal-revenues-t10059.html



Sorry Joe, but you failed again. :negative:



BTW in all joes talk about deficits he never even mentions obama, the president under which the debt grew almost as much as all 43 presidents before him combined.

Quote from: "Wazzzup"

Quote from: "Fashionista"

Quote from: "JOE"

Quote from: "Wazzzup"

Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"They are all suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome. Anyone on the left is focused on getting rid of Trump. I am looking for someone who will stand up against both parties actually to end this division. I miss the days of bipartisanship where at the end of the day, they are friends even if they have totally different agendas and from different parties. What happened to those days? What has caused all this? Is there no turning back the clock? Is it only going to get worse? It's just a shame.

Sadly, those days are long gone and it will only get worse.  Because of US immigration policies the democrats pick up hundreds of thousands of new voters ever year.  At this rate in 12 years or less nearly every northern state will be a deep blue, just like california, as well as some southern ones,.  The democrats will have power over nearly everything.  They will get more and more extreme and their antifa minions will become more violent as the dems cheer them on.



Like the saying goes--  Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Well if that's true, then the Republican Party is just as extreme as the Democrats.



This extremism manifests itself in either party trying to outspend each other.



The Republicans want unrealistic, unsustainable tax cuts to among other things, fight wars & support an ultra expensive state of the art military machine. Hey dumbos- that requires taxes just like it did during the cold war when taxation rates in the USA where over twice as high as they are today. And that was under the administration of Dwight Eisenhower when the Republicans also controlled Congress during the 1950s. Incidentally, Eisenhower produced budgetary surpluses not deficits.



The Democrats want their entitlements to among other things, fund an ultra expensive healthcare system known as Obamacare. And I agree with American tourists I spoke with....why did the damn rates keep going up? That didn't make any sense. No fee payer system should cost that much to set up and maintain. I agree there was something wrong with that system.



The bottom line is - whatever your party affiliation I think the USA spends too much and doesnt tax enough for what it wants. Hence the sky high projected trillion dollar deficits. Soon it's national debu will exceed its gdp. That is not a healthy ratio. I'd worry about the debt if I were the USA.



I'd be more concerned about bringing down the US debt than coddling spoiled pampered billionaires or accommodating gen xers who want the state to give them something for nothing.



Didn't Alexander Tytler darkly prophesize that democracy ends when it's citizens vote themselves the treasury?



Incidentally I may consider voting Conservative in Canada if Trudeau doesn't smarten up, curtail spending and bring down our debt. He promised stimulus spending to revive the economy, but now that its in full swing he oughta shut off the tap. I actually agree with Tory leader Andrew Scheer. Theres simply no need at the present moment to be running deficts. The party in power should be cutting spending and socking away surpluses now for a rainy day.

Read Seoul's article..



Tax cuts produced more revenue,  not less and tax increases here(federally and in Alberta) did not produce the revenue we were told they would..



And you didn't read what Wazzzup wrote either.

That is the premise of Joes post-- that tax cuts are bad because they reduce federal revenues.   SB debunked that entire premise before Joe even posted, but Joe never paid any attention.  https://thebluecashew.net/the-blue-cashew-f2/tax-cuts-not-reduce-federal-revenues-t10059.html



Sorry Joe, but you failed again. :negative:



BTW in all joes talk about deficits he never even mentions obama, the president under which the debt grew almost as much as all 43 presidents before him combined.

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Well Lump I support some tax cuts as economic stimulus but not if they drive up deficits.



 Worse yet its driving up the budget deficts and adding considerably to the us national debt.

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Quote from: "JOE"


Well Lump I support some tax cuts as economic stimulus but not if they drive up deficits.



 Worse yet its driving up the budget deficts and adding considerably to the us national debt.

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Well there you go again Joe .  SB already showed that tax cuts did not reduce revenue.  But you keep saying they did over and over. :dash1: .