Title: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Bricktop on November 26, 2018, 07:22:00 PM
Post by: Bricktop on November 26, 2018, 07:22:00 PM
Another robot lands on Mars. This one is almost a complete research lab.
To launch a vehicle from Earth, fly all the way to Mars, land and start analysing and researching the planet's surface is an amazing feat.
I was born in 1951, and our town was located near an airforce base (most English towns were...it's a small island), and we would marvel at great propeller driven planes that flew over us.
Wonder turned to astonishment, as very fast jets began appearing in the sky above us, breaking the sound barrier.
Now we're on Mars. My grandkids are going to witness some wondrous things in their lifetime.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: cc on November 26, 2018, 07:38:32 PM
Post by: cc on November 26, 2018, 07:38:32 PM
I stayed up all night for the first moon landing ... crunching anxiety as the lander portion (with 2 people in it) got near and put its rockets on to slow down ... then off with feet to go .. short free fall ... waiting / hoping to hear the voice again
One would have thought they could have scheduled "the film" for a better time
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Bricktop on November 26, 2018, 07:44:54 PM
Post by: Bricktop on November 26, 2018, 07:44:54 PM
It was our comms system they were using anyway.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: cc on November 26, 2018, 07:46:30 PM
Post by: cc on November 26, 2018, 07:46:30 PM
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Anonymous on November 26, 2018, 07:47:25 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 26, 2018, 07:47:25 PM
They may be a pain in the ass on Earth, but they sure know how to work in space.Quote from: "Bricktop"//https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46351114
Another robot lands on Mars. This one is almost a complete research lab.To launch a vehicle from Earth, fly all the way to Mars, land and start analysing and researching the planet's surface is an amazing feat.
I was born in 1951, and our town was located near an airforce base (most English towns were...it's a small island), and we would marvel at great propeller driven planes that flew over us.
Wonder turned to astonishment, as very fast jets began appearing in the sky above us, breaking the sound barrier.
Now we're on Mars. My grandkids are going to witness some wondrous things in their lifetime.
It sure is Bricktop.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Gaon on November 26, 2018, 08:33:14 PM
Post by: Gaon on November 26, 2018, 08:33:14 PM
They may be a pain in the ass on Earth, but they sure know how to work in space.Quote from: "Bricktop"//https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46351114
Another robot lands on Mars. This one is almost a complete research lab.
To launch a vehicle from Earth, fly all the way to Mars, land and start analysing and researching the planet's surface is an amazing feat.
I was born in 1951, and our town was located near an airforce base (most English towns were...it's a small island), and we would marvel at great propeller driven planes that flew over us.
Wonder turned to astonishment, as very fast jets began appearing in the sky above us, breaking the sound barrier.
Now we're on Mars. My grandkids are going to witness some wondrous things in their lifetime.
It took 205 days, but it got there.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: JOE on November 26, 2018, 08:47:16 PM
Post by: JOE on November 26, 2018, 08:47:16 PM
They may be a pain in the ass on Earth, but they sure know how to work in space.Quote from: "Bricktop"//https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46351114
Another robot lands on Mars. This one is almost a complete research lab.
To launch a vehicle from Earth, fly all the way to Mars, land and start analysing and researching the planet's surface is an amazing feat.
I was born in 1951, and our town was located near an airforce base (most English towns were...it's a small island), and we would marvel at great propeller driven planes that flew over us.
Wonder turned to astonishment, as very fast jets began appearing in the sky above us, breaking the sound barrier.
Now we're on Mars. My grandkids are going to witness some wondrous things in their lifetime.
Good fer them BT!
With the world's population exploding & the the dilapidated environment fewer and less ta go around, I'd rather not be around when yer grandkids reach their middle aged years.
I don't think itll be very good for them.
Best time is the one we're livin in and is sure to disappear within the next 50 years BT.
Enjoy it while ya got it and its still here, mate.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Bricktop on November 26, 2018, 08:56:54 PM
Post by: Bricktop on November 26, 2018, 08:56:54 PM
They'll work it out.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Anonymous on November 26, 2018, 09:08:19 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 26, 2018, 09:08:19 PM
dilapidated environment fewer and less ta go around,Quote
I thought it was getting better in the developed world and there is more to go around..
I was in Vancouver recently and I thought it wasn't dilapidated.....maybe it's just JOE's neighbourhood.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: JOE on November 26, 2018, 09:26:05 PM
Post by: JOE on November 26, 2018, 09:26:05 PM
dilapidated environment fewer and less ta go around,Quote
I thought it was getting better in the developed world and there is more to go around..
I was in Vancouver recently and I thought it wasn't dilapidated.....maybe it's just JOE's neighbourhood.
:laugh:
Even if there is a statistical improvement in the living standards, with an exploding population & finite resources its not sustainable fashionista.
Theyre gonna hit a brick wall at some point
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Anonymous on November 26, 2018, 09:36:20 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 26, 2018, 09:36:20 PM
dilapidated environment fewer and less ta go around,Quote
I thought it was getting better in the developed world and there is more to go around..
I was in Vancouver recently and I thought it wasn't dilapidated.....maybe it's just JOE's neighbourhood.
:laugh:
Even if there is a statistical improvement in the living standards, with an exploding population & finite resources its not sustainable fashionista.
Theyre gonna hit a brick wall at some point
They've been saying that for centuries..
We're still here and our quality of life is still improving..
We'll get a little more crowded, that's all..
But, I'm from crowded Taiwan, I'm used to it.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: JOE on November 26, 2018, 09:57:27 PM
Post by: JOE on November 26, 2018, 09:57:27 PM
dilapidated environment fewer and less ta go around,Quote
I thought it was getting better in the developed world and there is more to go around..
I was in Vancouver recently and I thought it wasn't dilapidated.....maybe it's just JOE's neighbourhood.
:laugh:
Even if there is a statistical improvement in the living standards, with an exploding population & finite resources its not sustainable fashionista.
Theyre gonna hit a brick wall at some point
They've been saying that for centuries..
We're still here and our quality of life is still improving..
We'll get a little more crowded, that's all..
But, I'm from crowded Taiwan, I'm used to it.
Well if thats the case its sure gonna be a shittier quality if life than with the one we've been used to eh
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Anonymous on November 26, 2018, 10:07:38 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 26, 2018, 10:07:38 PM
dilapidated environment fewer and less ta go around,Quote
I thought it was getting better in the developed world and there is more to go around..
I was in Vancouver recently and I thought it wasn't dilapidated.....maybe it's just JOE's neighbourhood.
:laugh:
Even if there is a statistical improvement in the living standards, with an exploding population & finite resources its not sustainable fashionista.
Theyre gonna hit a brick wall at some point
They've been saying that for centuries..
We're still here and our quality of life is still improving..
We'll get a little more crowded, that's all..
But, I'm from crowded Taiwan, I'm used to it.
Well if thats the case its sure gonna be a shittier quality if life than with the one we've been used to eh
We might not all be able to own a detached home with a yard in Canadian cities if our population reaches one hundred million..
Smaller accommodations is not the end of the world.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Odinson on November 26, 2018, 10:55:27 PM
Post by: Odinson on November 26, 2018, 10:55:27 PM
You still mad about the government switching to metric system?
Nasa uses metric.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Gaon on November 26, 2018, 10:59:16 PM
Post by: Gaon on November 26, 2018, 10:59:16 PM
Socks..Quote from: "Odinson"
You still mad about the government switching to metric system?
Nasa uses metric.
Australia made the switch a very long time ago.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Bricktop on November 27, 2018, 12:33:27 AM
Post by: Bricktop on November 27, 2018, 12:33:27 AM
Socks..Quote from: "Odinson"
You still mad about the government switching to metric system?
Nasa uses metric.
The fuck are you dribbling about?
We've been metric since the early 70's.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Odinson on November 27, 2018, 02:04:25 AM
Post by: Odinson on November 27, 2018, 02:04:25 AM
Socks..Quote from: "Odinson"
You still mad about the government switching to metric system?
Nasa uses metric.
The fuck are you dribbling about?
We've been metric since the early 70's.
I seem to remember an incident where you made a case about stating something in imperial units.
Now that I googled it.. A lot of australians think in imperial units even though the official system is metric.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Frood on November 27, 2018, 02:10:28 AM
Post by: Frood on November 27, 2018, 02:10:28 AM
Socks..Quote from: "Odinson"
You still mad about the government switching to metric system?
Nasa uses metric.
The fuck are you dribbling about?
We've been metric since the early 70's.
I seem to remember an incident where you made a case about stating something in imperial units.
Now that I googled it.. A lot of australians think in imperial units even though the official system is metric.
The older amongst us still think and say in both.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Bricktop on November 27, 2018, 02:31:52 AM
Post by: Bricktop on November 27, 2018, 02:31:52 AM
The Americans amongst us still think and say in both.
Fixed.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: JOE on November 27, 2018, 02:40:48 AM
Post by: JOE on November 27, 2018, 02:40:48 AM
Socks..Quote from: "Odinson"
You still mad about the government switching to metric system?
Nasa uses metric.
The fuck are you dribbling about?
We've been metric since the early 70's.
I seem to remember an incident where you made a case about stating something in imperial units.
Now that I googled it.. A lot of australians think in imperial units even though the official system is metric.
The older amongst us still think and say in both.
I like the old system of imperial units better.
Except for very small measures like mechanical uses (size of screws/bolts) metric is somewhat difficult to understand and at times impractical. Ie 1 in equals 25.4 mm or 2.54 cm. Like wtf?!
It seems very abstact and difficult to understand that system measurement
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Frood on November 27, 2018, 02:52:34 AM
Post by: Frood on November 27, 2018, 02:52:34 AM
Socks..Quote from: "Odinson"
You still mad about the government switching to metric system?
Nasa uses metric.
The fuck are you dribbling about?
We've been metric since the early 70's.
I seem to remember an incident where you made a case about stating something in imperial units.
Now that I googled it.. A lot of australians think in imperial units even though the official system is metric.
The older amongst us still think and say in both.
I like the old system of imperial units better.
Except for very small measures like mechanical uses (size of screws/bolts) metric is somewhat difficult to understand and at times impractical. Ie 1 in equals 25.4 mm or 2.54 cm. Like wtf?!
It seems very abstact and difficult to understand that system measurement
I believe it's down to thinking in both scales without converting too much. A kilometre is a K and a mile is a mile. If I was driving a classic car, I wouldn't go beyond 63 mph in a 100 kph zone. Don't know how I actually know that. Just is.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Blurt on November 27, 2018, 09:08:10 AM
Post by: Blurt on November 27, 2018, 09:08:10 AM
I, too, still remember how daunting a task it was to multiply and divide by 10 when I was in 1st grade.
Go soak your head in a 20L bucket, Joe.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Anonymous on November 27, 2018, 10:46:14 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 27, 2018, 10:46:14 AM
Joe has trouble figuring out the metric system?Quote from: "Blurt"
I, too, still remember how daunting a task it was to multiply and divide by 10 when I was in 1st grade.
Go soak your head in a 20L bucket, Joe.
Metric is very simple.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Bricktop on November 27, 2018, 05:20:25 PM
Post by: Bricktop on November 27, 2018, 05:20:25 PM
meant MILES an hour...I don't know how many times I got blasted and flashed for going too slow on the motorway.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: JOE on November 27, 2018, 10:46:39 PM
Post by: JOE on November 27, 2018, 10:46:39 PM
I recently drove around 3000 MILES in the UK. It was a pain constantly reminding oneself that their units of measurement are still imperial, and thatQuote from: "Bricktop"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iur/?f=1&image_host=http%3A%2F%2Fspuddey.files.wordpress.com%2F2011%2F10%2F70-mph-speed-sign.gif&u=https://spuddey.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/70-mph-speed-sign.gif%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iur/?f=1&i%20...%20d-sign.gif%22%3Ehttps://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iur/?f=1&image_host=http%3A%2F%2Fspuddey.files.wordpress.com%2F2011%2F10%2F70-mph-speed-sign.gif&u=https://spuddey.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/70-mph-speed-sign.gif%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
meant MILES an hour...I don't know how many times I got blasted and flashed for going too slow on the motorway.
So were you trying to show off to everyone like the Prisoner, BT?
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Odinson on November 27, 2018, 11:03:29 PM
Post by: Odinson on November 27, 2018, 11:03:29 PM
Socks..Quote from: "Odinson"
You still mad about the government switching to metric system?
Nasa uses metric.
The fuck are you dribbling about?
We've been metric since the early 70's.
I seem to remember an incident where you made a case about stating something in imperial units.
Now that I googled it.. A lot of australians think in imperial units even though the official system is metric.
The older amongst us still think and say in both.
I like the old system of imperial units better.
Except for very small measures like mechanical uses (size of screws/bolts) metric is somewhat difficult to understand and at times impractical. Ie 1 in equals 25.4 mm or 2.54 cm. Like wtf?!
It seems very abstact and difficult to understand that system measurement
I just think in meters, centimeters and millimeters.
Imperial doesnt have a smaller unit than an inch..
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Anonymous on November 27, 2018, 11:38:51 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 27, 2018, 11:38:51 PM
I recently drove around 3000 MILES in the UK. It was a pain constantly reminding oneself that their units of measurement are still imperial, and thatQuote from: "Bricktop"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iur/?f=1&image_host=http%3A%2F%2Fspuddey.files.wordpress.com%2F2011%2F10%2F70-mph-speed-sign.gif&u=https://spuddey.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/70-mph-speed-sign.gif%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iur/?f=1&i%20...%20d-sign.gif%22%3Ehttps://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iur/?f=1&image_host=http%3A%2F%2Fspuddey.files.wordpress.com%2F2011%2F10%2F70-mph-speed-sign.gif&u=https://spuddey.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/70-mph-speed-sign.gif%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
meant MILES an hour...I don't know how many times I got blasted and flashed for going too slow on the motorway.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Bricktop on November 27, 2018, 11:42:26 PM
Post by: Bricktop on November 27, 2018, 11:42:26 PM
So were you trying to show off to everyone like the Prisoner, BT?
Not in a Lotus club sport, I wasn't.
Hertz deigned to issue us with a stunningly beautiful, sporty and eyecatching Kia Venga.
Turned heads everywhere we went.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Odinson on November 28, 2018, 12:32:36 AM
Post by: Odinson on November 28, 2018, 12:32:36 AM
So were you trying to show off to everyone like the Prisoner, BT?
Not in a Lotus club sport, I wasn't.
Hertz deigned to issue us with a stunningly beautiful, sporty and eyecatching Kia Venga.(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gwrkia.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F02%2Fkiavenga_475x360.jpg&f=1%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%20...%2060.jpg&f=1%22%3Ehttps://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gwrkia.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F02%2Fkiavenga_475x360.jpg&f=1%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Turned heads everywhere we went.
:001_rolleyes:
Kia?
They are just observing when the car completely disintegrates on the road.
We have a saying about KIAs 7 year warranty..
Drive for 2 years, fight in court for 5 years.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Bricktop on November 28, 2018, 02:39:59 AM
Post by: Bricktop on November 28, 2018, 02:39:59 AM
It went OK...1.6 turbo. But the handling and gearbox were terrible.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: JOE on November 28, 2018, 06:03:09 AM
Post by: JOE on November 28, 2018, 06:03:09 AM
So were you trying to show off to everyone like the Prisoner, BT?
Not in a Lotus club sport, I wasn't.
Hertz deigned to issue us with a stunningly beautiful, sporty and eyecatching Kia Venga.(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gwrkia.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F02%2Fkiavenga_475x360.jpg&f=1%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%20...%2060.jpg&f=1%22%3Ehttps://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gwrkia.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F02%2Fkiavenga_475x360.jpg&f=1%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Turned heads everywhere we went.
:001_rolleyes:
Oh. I thought he remindrd me of you a bit.
The ultimate anti-establishment anti-hero in self-denial...
"I am not a Numbah! I am a Free Man!"
Trapped by a lifetime serving her Majesty behind the badge....
Anyways that sequence of him racing through Britain was so cool.
But given how crowded Britain's roads must be, caint imagine how anybody could race around there irl, eh?
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Anonymous on November 28, 2018, 11:09:08 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 28, 2018, 11:09:08 AM
So were you trying to show off to everyone like the Prisoner, BT?
Not in a Lotus club sport, I wasn't.
Hertz deigned to issue us with a stunningly beautiful, sporty and eyecatching Kia Venga.(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gwrkia.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F02%2Fkiavenga_475x360.jpg&f=1%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%20...%2060.jpg&f=1%22%3Ehttps://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gwrkia.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F02%2Fkiavenga_475x360.jpg&f=1%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Turned heads everywhere we went.
:001_rolleyes:
Kia?
They are just observing when the car completely disintegrates on the road.
We have a saying about KIAs 7 year warranty..
Drive for 2 years, fight in court for 5 years.
That isn't really true anymore..
Kia cars are a lot better today.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Blurt on November 28, 2018, 11:27:42 AM
Post by: Blurt on November 28, 2018, 11:27:42 AM
...she said.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Anonymous on November 28, 2018, 11:35:11 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 28, 2018, 11:35:11 AM
"But the handling and gearbox were terrible..."Quote from: "Blurt"
...she said.
:laugh:
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Chuck Bronson on November 28, 2018, 11:38:42 AM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on November 28, 2018, 11:38:42 AM
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Anonymous on November 28, 2018, 11:41:27 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 28, 2018, 11:41:27 AM
Blurtski!Quote from: "Chuck Bronson"
Chuckski!
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Chuck Bronson on November 28, 2018, 11:43:19 AM
Post by: Chuck Bronson on November 28, 2018, 11:43:19 AM
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Bricktop on November 28, 2018, 05:58:19 PM
Post by: Bricktop on November 28, 2018, 05:58:19 PM
Kia cars are a lot better today.
They could hardly have been any worse.
But the fact that they are better does not mean they are not still a cheap, execrable piece of proletarian transport.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Bricktop on November 28, 2018, 06:00:10 PM
Post by: Bricktop on November 28, 2018, 06:00:10 PM
"But the handling and gearbox were terrible..."Quote from: "Blurt"
...she said.
:laugh:
Your mind is even more debauched than ever, you demented deviant!!!
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Anonymous on November 28, 2018, 06:30:26 PM
Post by: Anonymous on November 28, 2018, 06:30:26 PM
Kia cars are a lot better today.
They could hardly have been any worse.
But the fact that they are better does not mean they are not still a cheap, execrable piece of proletarian transport.
Most Korean cars are reliable enough for the masses or they wouldn't be taking market share from companies like Ford.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Blurt on November 28, 2018, 07:07:37 PM
Post by: Blurt on November 28, 2018, 07:07:37 PM
Your mind is even more debauched than ever, you demented deviant!!!
I'll have you know, Sir, that I am not demented.
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Bricktop on November 28, 2018, 07:16:44 PM
Post by: Bricktop on November 28, 2018, 07:16:44 PM
Maniacal?
Deranged?
I know...ECCENTRIC!!! Commes moi???
Title: Re: Got to hand it to them Yanquis
Post by: Gaon on November 29, 2018, 12:09:51 PM
Post by: Gaon on November 29, 2018, 12:09:51 PM
So were you trying to show off to everyone like the Prisoner, BT?
Not in a Lotus club sport, I wasn't.
Hertz deigned to issue us with a stunningly beautiful, sporty and eyecatching Kia Venga.(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gwrkia.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F02%2Fkiavenga_475x360.jpg&f=1%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%20...%2060.jpg&f=1%22%3Ehttps://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gwrkia.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F02%2Fkiavenga_475x360.jpg&f=1%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Turned heads everywhere we went.
:001_rolleyes:
Kia?
They are just observing when the car completely disintegrates on the road.
We have a saying about KIAs 7 year warranty..
Drive for 2 years, fight in court for 5 years.
lol