Today is my last work day until January 2..
 ac_smile 
I exchanged gifts and cards with co workers today..
Tomorrow and three days next week, I volunteer for the Salvation Army..
Next Friday, I cook Christmas dinner for all the people working at husband's shop and bring it to them like I do every year..
On Christmas eve, my mother and my mother in law come to our house and stay for two nights..
We attend a special Christmas eve fellowship..
What are your plans for Christmas?
			
			
			
				We are going to Mexico for Christmas.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Oh my, that would be different....for my family.
			 
			
			
				You'll be glad to get back to work for a rest...
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Bricktop"
lol
			 
			
			
				Tomorrow will be my last day of work until 27th. Might take the ferry over to Vancouver Island some time next week.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"
We've been to Vancouver Island, but we flew. What does it cost to take a car across?
			 
			
			
				We have a party to attend tomorrow night and one Thursday. My kids will come over Christmas eve and the morning of December 25.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"
We've been to Vancouver Island, but we flew. What does it cost to take a car across?
They charge $17.20 per person and $57.50 for the vehicle. That's the rate for one way. I might have second thoughts about going now. It'll be a day of adventures but life will just be the same after the trip.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"
We've been to Vancouver Island, but we flew. What does it cost to take a car across?
They charge $17.20 per person and $57.50 for the vehicle. That's the rate for one way. I might have second thoughts about going now. It'll be a day of adventures but life will just be the same after the trip.
That depends, what day were you thinking about going over and will be just a day trip?
			 
			
			
				My brother and I have been kinda busy lately during the past few days, but we finally got nearly all the work done.
My sister in law and her mom will be coming over to Toronto during Christmas to see the aurora lights, though I won't be going with them.  Maybe it's time I should pay my best friend a visit this Xmas... only met up with him once every year since he moved to the US.  ac_unsure
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Zetsu"
My sister in law and her mom will be coming over to Toronto during Christmas to see the aurora lights, though I won't be going with them.  Maybe it's time I should pay my best friend a visit this Xmas... only met up with him once every year since he moved to the US.  ac_unsure
So, are you going to the USA over Christmas?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
 ac_smile 
I exchanged gifts and cards with co workers today..
Tomorrow and three days next week, I volunteer for the Salvation Army..
Next Friday, I cook Christmas dinner for all the people working at husband's shop and bring it to them like I do every year..
On Christmas eve, my mother and my mother in law come to our house and stay for two nights..
We attend a special Christmas eve fellowship..
What are your plans for Christmas?
Thats awesome Fash! 
As far as work, we usually work half a day on Christmas Eve, they make a dinner for us, then we leave for the rest of the day with pay, plus a bonus ($100). But the past few years, since there were only a few of us, they took us to Golden Corral, which I dont normally like. But when we go, they still have the bacon out, and I load half my plate with that lol. Last year, I was the last non family member, and the family had health issues, think the dad maybe, and I didnt get a dinner. This year who knows, but I know we will take off Saturday through Christmas this year, 4 days.
As far as plans, I need to get started lol. I havent even made a Christmas list yet, that starts today. Also need to make a list of all the goodies ingredients I plan to make. Was thinking of having a small get together on Sunday, so I dont feel so rushed at other family functions on Christmas day. Make a good meal. I'll prolly eat at my gf's parents house, then my in-law's house on Christmas.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Ha! Thats where my brother is this week I believe lol.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Zetsu"
My sister in law and her mom will be coming over to Toronto during Christmas to see the aurora lights, though I won't be going with them.  Maybe it's time I should pay my best friend a visit this Xmas... only met up with him once every year since he moved to the US.  ac_unsure
Oooo, I would love to see the aurora lights some time in my life.
I feel ya, my brother was kinda like my best friend, and I only see him once a year, then he comes here once a year, which I think is in a few weeks. Which state he in?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
 ac_smile 
I exchanged gifts and cards with co workers today..
Tomorrow and three days next week, I volunteer for the Salvation Army..
Next Friday, I cook Christmas dinner for all the people working at husband's shop and bring it to them like I do every year..
On Christmas eve, my mother and my mother in law come to our house and stay for two nights..
We attend a special Christmas eve fellowship..
What are your plans for Christmas?
Good fer you, fashionista!
Myself?
I gotta massive dental bill comin' up soon when I sees the dentist next werk.
A couple of cavities and at least one root canal.
So all that money I had saved up ...GONE!
....all gone! No snazzy new consumer item i saw in the store, no vacation 
Plus I gotta put some money aside fer my elderly mum.
And will contribute to a local charity & Kids Christmas present drive.
So no Christmas fer me! 
Other than Christmas Day will probably be working ta pay off that dentsl bill.
But in a way I don't cuz at least I gitta job ta pay it off with.
I guess my Christmas present is saving my teeth from rotting and falling out.
Anyways I like the idea that Christmas should be about the birth of the Baby Jesus

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....it is a Christian holiday after all.
'Christ' - 'mass'
			 
			
			
				Bullshit, you old virgin ftuitloop. You have dentures.
			
			
			
				I am working on drilling leases now until spring break up. I am heading back to the farm after work on Friday for six days. My son and his Aussie girlfriend will drop by, we will smoke some weed, drink copious amounts of barrel wash, eat some perogies,and kolbassa. I am going to slaughter a turkey on Christmas eve.
			
			
			
				We'll have a meal at my house X-mas eve. I am going to my Dad's with my two sons Christmas morning. My sons can open their gifts and I can have a meal with my stepmother. :beurk:
			
			
			
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Please let us know about your upcoming parole hearing & when you're allowed ta leave the farm.
I'll send ya some talcum powder fer Christmas.
...that ankle bracelet of yerz nust be gittin' itchy by now, Hoimin.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "JOE"
Quote from: "Herman"
Please let us know about your upcoming parole hearing & when you're allowed ta leave the farm.
I'll send ya some talcum powder Christmas.
...that ankle bracelet of yerz nust be gittin' itchy by niw, Hoimin.
I gather there is supposed to be some humour in there, but I don't get it.
 :confused1:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "JOE"
Quote from: "Herman"
Please let us know about your upcoming parole hearing & when you're allowed ta leave the farm.
I'll send ya some talcum powder Christmas.
...that ankle bracelet of yerz nust be gittin' itchy by niw, Hoimin.
I gather there is supposed to be some humour in there, but I don't get it.
 :confused1:
Oh I think Hoimin gets it Fashionista.
			 
			
			
				Of course I get it. While every normal guy is getting shitfaced and getting tail over Christmas, old Joe will be alone and pulling it like all the other virgins.
			
			
			
				My girlfriend and I are going to my parents Christmas eve, stay overnight and then her parents Christmas day. I am only working the Friday of the Christmas week. 
My Christmas present to myself is next month when I go Florida to play golf. ac_dance
			
			
			
				Don't let them gators gechya!
If you lose a ball in a pond, don't try to fetch it out as you'd  likely loose 2 more  :wink: 
Lived in Fl for 3 years, so learned a lot about respecting the dangers of gators and snakes
			
			
			
				Quote from: "cc"
If you lose a ball in a pond, don't try to fetch it out as you'd  likely loose 2 more  :wink: 
Lived in Fl for 3 years, so learned a lot about gators and snakes
I've been going every year for a lot of years. I always have a good time. 
The state is getting too over populated though.
			 
			
			
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Meanwhile, in Australia...

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Quote from: "cc"
Meanwhile, in Australia...

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Why are all those kangaroos on a golf course?
Eating the grass.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "cc"
Lived in Fl for 3 years, so learned a lot about respecting the dangers of gators and snakes
 :MG_216:
			 
			
			
				This may surprise some people, but my wife and I have a Christmas tree in our apartment. 
We both bought small toys, games and candies to put in my daughter's red Christmas stocking. We will roast a ham on Christmas day. 
On Orthodox Christmas in January, we will have caviar sandwiches, chicken with potatoes, and kotletis.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Gaon"
We both bought small toys, games and candies to put in my daughter's red Christmas stocking. We will roast a ham on Christmas day. 
On Orthodox Christmas in January, we will have caviar sandwiches, chicken with potatoes, and kotletis.
Wow. Really festive even though you're not Christian.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"
Quote from: "Gaon"
We both bought small toys, games and candies to put in my daughter's red Christmas stocking. We will roast a ham on Christmas day. 
On Orthodox Christmas in January, we will have caviar sandwiches, chicken with potatoes, and kotletis.
Wow. Really festive even though you're not Christian.
Your reaction is typical. Most people are shocked that we celebrate Christmas. I say when in Rome.
Hey, do you mind if I call you Van Guy?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Gaon"
We both bought small toys, games and candies to put in my daughter's red Christmas stocking. We will roast a ham on Christmas day. 
On Orthodox Christmas in January, we will have caviar sandwiches, chicken with potatoes, and kotletis.
This shocks me.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
My sister in law and her mom will be coming over to Toronto during Christmas to see the aurora lights, though I won't be going with them.  Maybe it's time I should pay my best friend a visit this Xmas... only met up with him once every year since he moved to the US.  ac_unsure
So, are you going to the USA over Christmas?
tbh I haven't planned it out yet, but most likely he'll come over to Toronto during Christmas to visit him family, think it's time I give him a call and see how's things going for him.  ac_cool
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
My sister in law and her mom will be coming over to Toronto during Christmas to see the aurora lights, though I won't be going with them.  Maybe it's time I should pay my best friend a visit this Xmas... only met up with him once every year since he moved to the US.  ac_unsure
So, are you going to the USA over Christmas?
tbh I haven't planned it out yet, but most likely he'll come over to Toronto during Christmas to visit him family, think it's time I give him a call and see how's things going for him.  ac_cool
You absolutely should  give him a call Zetsu.
 ac_smile
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
My sister in law and her mom will be coming over to Toronto during Christmas to see the aurora lights, though I won't be going with them.  Maybe it's time I should pay my best friend a visit this Xmas... only met up with him once every year since he moved to the US.  ac_unsure
Oooo, I would love to see the aurora lights some time in my life.
I feel ya, my brother was kinda like my best friend, and I only see him once a year, then he comes here once a year, which I think is in a few weeks. Which state he in?
He's working at New Jersey, he really like the life there, though stress at his work place has been creeping up to him lately, maybe it's time I should buy him something since I really haven't seen him in quite a while.
I'm not a big fan of the aurora, though I wouldn't mind going there in a tour group.  But if you're ever interested I believe there's some cheap tickets to visit northern Canada for a couple hundred USD and covers almost everything.  ac_cool
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
My sister in law and her mom will be coming over to Toronto during Christmas to see the aurora lights, though I won't be going with them.  Maybe it's time I should pay my best friend a visit this Xmas... only met up with him once every year since he moved to the US.  ac_unsure
So, are you going to the USA over Christmas?
tbh I haven't planned it out yet, but most likely he'll come over to Toronto during Christmas to visit him family, think it's time I give him a call and see how's things going for him.  ac_cool
You absolutely should  give him a call Zetsu.
 ac_smile
You're right Fash, plus he's a really nice guy, nice and friendly to a level sometimes I sometimes feel bad for being his friend due to the fact there's no challenge he ever gives me in our childhood.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
My sister in law and her mom will be coming over to Toronto during Christmas to see the aurora lights, though I won't be going with them.  Maybe it's time I should pay my best friend a visit this Xmas... only met up with him once every year since he moved to the US.  ac_unsure
Oooo, I would love to see the aurora lights some time in my life.
I feel ya, my brother was kinda like my best friend, and I only see him once a year, then he comes here once a year, which I think is in a few weeks. Which state he in?
He's working at New Jersey, he really like the life there, though stress at his work place has been creeping up to him lately, maybe it's time I should buy him something since I really haven't seen him in quite a while.
I'm not a big fan of the aurora, though I wouldn't mind going there in a tour group.  But if you're ever interested I believe there's some cheap tickets to visit northern Canada for a couple hundred USD and covers almost everything.  ac_cool
What does your friend do in New Jersey Zetsu?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
My sister in law and her mom will be coming over to Toronto during Christmas to see the aurora lights, though I won't be going with them.  Maybe it's time I should pay my best friend a visit this Xmas... only met up with him once every year since he moved to the US.  ac_unsure
Oooo, I would love to see the aurora lights some time in my life.
I feel ya, my brother was kinda like my best friend, and I only see him once a year, then he comes here once a year, which I think is in a few weeks. Which state he in?
He's working at New Jersey, he really like the life there, though stress at his work place has been creeping up to him lately, maybe it's time I should buy him something since I really haven't seen him in quite a while.
I'm not a big fan of the aurora, though I wouldn't mind going there in a tour group.  But if you're ever interested I believe there's some cheap tickets to visit northern Canada for a couple hundred USD and covers almost everything.  ac_cool
What does your friend do in New Jersey Zetsu?
He works in some kind of physio recovery related job, most of his patients are over 300 pounds and suffer from multiple health issues and passive injuries accumulated over time.  He told me he only works 8 hours a day but still sounds exhausted every time I see him since it's none stop physical related work.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Zetsu"
He works in some kind of physio recovery related job, most of his patients are over 300 pounds and suffer from multiple health issues and passive injuries accumulated over time.  He told me he only works 8 hours a day but he still sounds exhausted every time I see him since it's none stop physical related work.
Health care pays very well in the USA..
It pays very well here too, but there's more wage variation South of the border..
I'm sure he sees a lot of patients who's health problems break his heart.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
He works in some kind of physio recovery related job, most of his patients are over 300 pounds and suffer from multiple health issues and passive injuries accumulated over time.  He told me he only works 8 hours a day but he still sounds exhausted every time I see him since it's none stop physical related work.
Health care pays very well in the USA..
It pays very well here too, but there's more wage variation South of the border..
I'm sure he sees a lot of patients who's health problems break his heart.
What you say couldn't be any more true, iirc his starting wage was $95,000 annually, his dad was definitely smart and right to tell him to go for medical instead of a career that that he likes.  But yea as you mention working at the clinic can get pretty stressful and depressing sometime, dun think I got what it takes to do what he's doing, less alone have the right skills.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
He works in some kind of physio recovery related job, most of his patients are over 300 pounds and suffer from multiple health issues and passive injuries accumulated over time.  He told me he only works 8 hours a day but he still sounds exhausted every time I see him since it's none stop physical related work.
Health care pays very well in the USA..
It pays very well here too, but there's more wage variation South of the border..
I'm sure he sees a lot of patients who's health problems break his heart.
What you say couldn't be any more true, iirc his starting wage was $95,000 annually, his dad was definitely smart and right to tell him to go for medical instead of a career that that he likes.  But yea as you mention working at the clinic can get pretty stressful and depressing sometime, dun think I got what it takes to do what he's doing, less alone have the right skills.
I'm so thankful there are people like your friend who can handle the stress of front line health care delivery.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
He works in some kind of physio recovery related job, most of his patients are over 300 pounds and suffer from multiple health issues and passive injuries accumulated over time.  He told me he only works 8 hours a day but he still sounds exhausted every time I see him since it's none stop physical related work.
Health care pays very well in the USA..
It pays very well here too, but there's more wage variation South of the border..
I'm sure he sees a lot of patients who's health problems break his heart.
What you say couldn't be any more true, iirc his starting wage was $95,000 annually, his dad was definitely smart and right to tell him to go for medical instead of a career that that he likes.  But yea as you mention working at the clinic can get pretty stressful and depressing sometime, dun think I got what it takes to do what he's doing, less alone have the right skills.
I'm so thankful there are people like your friend who can handle the stress of front line health care delivery.
I'm agree too, sometimes the stress in some jobs can be so heavy it's hard to convince many ppl, I know so many friends that are chartered accountants or specialized in archival science, but end up quitting their jobs or at least wanting to b/c of heavy work stress.  Now they see me running my own business they all want to do the same thing too, or some others trying to solicitate us.  :laugh:
			 
			
			
				How is your new enterprise doing Zetsu?
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
We're doing ok I guess, plus it's just me and my brother, we're still no were close to be called a large successful business lol.  Everyday is just my brother and I burning money for the business start up but still haven't earn a single penny.  All our friends assumed we're already super successful but they couldn't be any farther from the truth.  :001_tongue:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
We're doing ok I guess, plus it's just me and my brother, we're still no were close to be called a large successful business lol.  Everyday is just my brother and I burning money for the business start up but still haven't earn a single penny.  All our friends assumed we're already super successful but they couldn't be any farther from the truth.  :001_tongue:
Have you had an uptick in sales for Christmas?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
We're doing ok I guess, plus it's just me and my brother, we're still no were close to be called a large successful business lol.  Everyday is just my brother and I burning money for the business start up but still haven't earn a single penny.  All our friends assumed we're already super successful but they couldn't be any farther from the truth.  :001_tongue:
Have you had an uptick in sales for Christmas?
Currently I'm still figuring out how to get our webpage to show up from google's SEO, plus I doubt we'll be able to sell our first product before Christmas.  :001_tongue:
			 
			
			
				What's the URL?
(I'm sure Fash won't mind a free plug!!!)
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
We're doing ok I guess, plus it's just me and my brother, we're still no were close to be called a large successful business lol.  Everyday is just my brother and I burning money for the business start up but still haven't earn a single penny.  All our friends assumed we're already super successful but they couldn't be any farther from the truth.  :001_tongue:
Have you had an uptick in sales for Christmas?
Currently I'm still figuring out how to get our webpage to show up from google's SEO, plus I doubt we'll be able to sell our first product before Christmas.  :001_tongue:
Is it drop ship company?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Bricktop"
(I'm sure Fash won't mind a free plug!!!)
It might not be the best to disclose it in this section of the forum, but I'll PM you the store address in a few min.   ac_cool
			 
			
			
				OK
Good point.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
(I'm sure Fash won't mind a free plug!!!)
It might not be the best to disclose it in this section of the forum, but I'll PM you the store address in a few min.   ac_cool
Can you send it to me too.
			 
			
			
				Sorry I'm back, just got a phone call earlier, I'll send you guys the url right away.  ac_cool
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Zetsu"
I appreciate it.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
We're doing ok I guess, plus it's just me and my brother, we're still no were close to be called a large successful business lol.  Everyday is just my brother and I burning money for the business start up but still haven't earn a single penny.  All our friends assumed we're already super successful but they couldn't be any farther from the truth.  :001_tongue:
Have you had an uptick in sales for Christmas?
Currently I'm still figuring out how to get our webpage to show up from google's SEO, plus I doubt we'll be able to sell our first product before Christmas.  :001_tongue:
Is it drop ship company?
We dun do drop shipping shipping, it might be convenient, but almost impossible to make a living out of it, lol.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
We're doing ok I guess, plus it's just me and my brother, we're still no were close to be called a large successful business lol.  Everyday is just my brother and I burning money for the business start up but still haven't earn a single penny.  All our friends assumed we're already super successful but they couldn't be any farther from the truth.  :001_tongue:
Have you had an uptick in sales for Christmas?
Currently I'm still figuring out how to get our webpage to show up from google's SEO, plus I doubt we'll be able to sell our first product before Christmas.  :001_tongue:
Is it drop ship company?
We dun do drop shipping shipping, it might be convenient, but almost impossible to make a living out of it, lol.
I believe that Zetsu..
You'd almost have to give your merchandise away.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
We're doing ok I guess, plus it's just me and my brother, we're still no were close to be called a large successful business lol.  Everyday is just my brother and I burning money for the business start up but still haven't earn a single penny.  All our friends assumed we're already super successful but they couldn't be any farther from the truth.  :001_tongue:
Have you had an uptick in sales for Christmas?
Currently I'm still figuring out how to get our webpage to show up from google's SEO, plus I doubt we'll be able to sell our first product before Christmas.  :001_tongue:
Is it drop ship company?
We dun do drop shipping shipping, it might be convenient, but almost impossible to make a living out of it, lol.
I believe that Zetsu..
You'd almost have to give your merchandise away.
One of the biggest problem with drop shipping is that the seller's work effort, contribution or investing offer for the supplier and end user(customer) is so insignificant and minimal, the supplier makes over 95% of the net profit and the customer buys the product at a cheap whole sale price, leaving the middle man(the store owner) with just razor thin profit margin since we aren't really offering anything.  
If we want to make money, first thing is to take risk by investing wisely, work hard and offer quality products to the society, I know this might sound kind of lame, but I just don't like to believe in taking shortcuts or making fast money.  Like my dad's favorite phrase, no pain no gain.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
We're doing ok I guess, plus it's just me and my brother, we're still no were close to be called a large successful business lol.  Everyday is just my brother and I burning money for the business start up but still haven't earn a single penny.  All our friends assumed we're already super successful but they couldn't be any farther from the truth.  :001_tongue:
Have you had an uptick in sales for Christmas?
Currently I'm still figuring out how to get our webpage to show up from google's SEO, plus I doubt we'll be able to sell our first product before Christmas.  :001_tongue:
Is it drop ship company?
We dun do drop shipping shipping, it might be convenient, but almost impossible to make a living out of it, lol.
I believe that Zetsu..
You'd almost have to give your merchandise away.
One of the biggest problem with drop shipping is that the seller's work effort, contribution or investing offer for the supplier and end user(customer) is so insignificant and minimal, the supplier makes over 95% of the net profit and the customer buys the product at a cheap whole sale price, leaving the middle man(the store owner) with just razor thin profit margin since we aren't really offering anything.  
If we want to make money, first thing is to take risk by investing wisely, work hard and offer quality products to the society, I know this might sound kind of lame, but I just don't like to believe in taking shortcuts or making fast money.  Like my dad's favorite phrase, no pain no gain.
What is your business model?
Brick and mortar retailing with online sales?
			 
			
			
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We're doing ok I guess, plus it's just me and my brother, we're still no were close to be called a large successful business lol.  Everyday is just my brother and I burning money for the business start up but still haven't earn a single penny.  All our friends assumed we're already super successful but they couldn't be any farther from the truth.  :001_tongue:
Have you had an uptick in sales for Christmas?
Currently I'm still figuring out how to get our webpage to show up from google's SEO, plus I doubt we'll be able to sell our first product before Christmas.  :001_tongue:
Is it drop ship company?
We dun do drop shipping shipping, it might be convenient, but almost impossible to make a living out of it, lol.
I believe that Zetsu..
You'd almost have to give your merchandise away.
One of the biggest problem with drop shipping is that the seller's work effort, contribution or investing offer for the supplier and end user(customer) is so insignificant and minimal, the supplier makes over 95% of the net profit and the customer buys the product at a cheap whole sale price, leaving the middle man(the store owner) with just razor thin profit margin since we aren't really offering anything.  
If we want to make money, first thing is to take risk by investing wisely, work hard and offer quality products to the society, I know this might sound kind of lame, but I just don't like to believe in taking shortcuts or making fast money.  Like my dad's favorite phrase, no pain no gain.
What is your business model?
Brick and mortar retailing with online sales?
To be precise we aren't really a store, more of a warehouse with a showroom, another factor is we can't accept payments in there either under the plaza's rules, but we can offer pick up if ppl buy stuff and pay online online, or ship directly to their address.
			 
			
			
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We're doing ok I guess, plus it's just me and my brother, we're still no were close to be called a large successful business lol.  Everyday is just my brother and I burning money for the business start up but still haven't earn a single penny.  All our friends assumed we're already super successful but they couldn't be any farther from the truth.  :001_tongue:
Have you had an uptick in sales for Christmas?
Currently I'm still figuring out how to get our webpage to show up from google's SEO, plus I doubt we'll be able to sell our first product before Christmas.  :001_tongue:
Is it drop ship company?
We dun do drop shipping shipping, it might be convenient, but almost impossible to make a living out of it, lol.
I believe that Zetsu..
You'd almost have to give your merchandise away.
One of the biggest problem with drop shipping is that the seller's work effort, contribution or investing offer for the supplier and end user(customer) is so insignificant and minimal, the supplier makes over 95% of the net profit and the customer buys the product at a cheap whole sale price, leaving the middle man(the store owner) with just razor thin profit margin since we aren't really offering anything.  
If we want to make money, first thing is to take risk by investing wisely, work hard and offer quality products to the society, I know this might sound kind of lame, but I just don't like to believe in taking shortcuts or making fast money.  Like my dad's favorite phrase, no pain no gain.
What is your business model?
Brick and mortar retailing with online sales?
To be precise we aren't really a store, more of a warehouse with a showroom, another factor is we can't accept payments in there either under the plaza's rules, but we can offer pick up if ppl buy stuff and pay online online, or ship directly to their address.
What do  you sell?
			 
			
			
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We're doing ok I guess, plus it's just me and my brother, we're still no were close to be called a large successful business lol.  Everyday is just my brother and I burning money for the business start up but still haven't earn a single penny.  All our friends assumed we're already super successful but they couldn't be any farther from the truth.  :001_tongue:
Have you had an uptick in sales for Christmas?
Currently I'm still figuring out how to get our webpage to show up from google's SEO, plus I doubt we'll be able to sell our first product before Christmas.  :001_tongue:
Is it drop ship company?
We dun do drop shipping shipping, it might be convenient, but almost impossible to make a living out of it, lol.
I believe that Zetsu..
You'd almost have to give your merchandise away.
One of the biggest problem with drop shipping is that the seller's work effort, contribution or investing offer for the supplier and end user(customer) is so insignificant and minimal, the supplier makes over 95% of the net profit and the customer buys the product at a cheap whole sale price, leaving the middle man(the store owner) with just razor thin profit margin since we aren't really offering anything.  
If we want to make money, first thing is to take risk by investing wisely, work hard and offer quality products to the society, I know this might sound kind of lame, but I just don't like to believe in taking shortcuts or making fast money.  Like my dad's favorite phrase, no pain no gain.
What is your business model?
Brick and mortar retailing with online sales?
To be precise we aren't really a store, more of a warehouse with a showroom, another factor is we can't accept payments in there either under the plaza's rules, but we can offer pick up if ppl buy stuff and pay online online, or ship directly to their address.
What do  you sell?
Mostly some gimmicky stuff like toys, stationery, gifts, audio with some outdoor gear, action figures.  :001_tongue:
			 
			
			
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We're doing ok I guess, plus it's just me and my brother, we're still no were close to be called a large successful business lol.  Everyday is just my brother and I burning money for the business start up but still haven't earn a single penny.  All our friends assumed we're already super successful but they couldn't be any farther from the truth.  :001_tongue:
Have you had an uptick in sales for Christmas?
Currently I'm still figuring out how to get our webpage to show up from google's SEO, plus I doubt we'll be able to sell our first product before Christmas.  :001_tongue:
Is it drop ship company?
We dun do drop shipping shipping, it might be convenient, but almost impossible to make a living out of it, lol.
I believe that Zetsu..
You'd almost have to give your merchandise away.
One of the biggest problem with drop shipping is that the seller's work effort, contribution or investing offer for the supplier and end user(customer) is so insignificant and minimal, the supplier makes over 95% of the net profit and the customer buys the product at a cheap whole sale price, leaving the middle man(the store owner) with just razor thin profit margin since we aren't really offering anything.  
If we want to make money, first thing is to take risk by investing wisely, work hard and offer quality products to the society, I know this might sound kind of lame, but I just don't like to believe in taking shortcuts or making fast money.  Like my dad's favorite phrase, no pain no gain.
What is your business model?
Brick and mortar retailing with online sales?
To be precise we aren't really a store, more of a warehouse with a showroom, another factor is we can't accept payments in there either under the plaza's rules, but we can offer pick up if ppl buy stuff and pay online online, or ship directly to their address.
What do  you sell?
Mostly some gimmicky stuff like toys, stationery, gifts, audio with some outdoor gear, action figures.  :001_tongue:
Dollarama  plus. :laugh3:
			 
			
			
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We're doing ok I guess, plus it's just me and my brother, we're still no were close to be called a large successful business lol.  Everyday is just my brother and I burning money for the business start up but still haven't earn a single penny.  All our friends assumed we're already super successful but they couldn't be any farther from the truth.  :001_tongue:
Have you had an uptick in sales for Christmas?
Currently I'm still figuring out how to get our webpage to show up from google's SEO, plus I doubt we'll be able to sell our first product before Christmas.  :001_tongue:
Is it drop ship company?
We dun do drop shipping shipping, it might be convenient, but almost impossible to make a living out of it, lol.
I believe that Zetsu..
You'd almost have to give your merchandise away.
One of the biggest problem with drop shipping is that the seller's work effort, contribution or investing offer for the supplier and end user(customer) is so insignificant and minimal, the supplier makes over 95% of the net profit and the customer buys the product at a cheap whole sale price, leaving the middle man(the store owner) with just razor thin profit margin since we aren't really offering anything.  
If we want to make money, first thing is to take risk by investing wisely, work hard and offer quality products to the society, I know this might sound kind of lame, but I just don't like to believe in taking shortcuts or making fast money.  Like my dad's favorite phrase, no pain no gain.
What is your business model?
Brick and mortar retailing with online sales?
To be precise we aren't really a store, more of a warehouse with a showroom, another factor is we can't accept payments in there either under the plaza's rules, but we can offer pick up if ppl buy stuff and pay online online, or ship directly to their address.
What do  you sell?
Mostly some gimmicky stuff like toys, stationery, gifts, audio with some outdoor gear, action figures.  :001_tongue:
Dollarama  plus. :laugh3:
 :MG_216:  Lol I hate admit this but this is direction we're heading to if we dun improve our sourcing portfolio, lol.
			 
			
			
				I know of some individuals with a similar model who import scratch and dint consumer goods items from Asia and do quite well from it.
			
			
			
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I know many Chinese in my city who import goods from China..
What are your holiday plans DD?
			 
			
			
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I know many Chinese in my city who import goods from China..
What are your holiday plans DD?
Not much. Work loads go up over December and January. Probably just eat a lot of festive foods and get indigestion inside with the air con on while watching movies with the fam.
			 
			
			
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I know many Chinese in my city who import goods from China..
What are your holiday plans DD?
Not much. Work loads go up over December and January. Probably just eat a lot of festive foods and get indigestion inside with the air con on while watching movies with the fam.
As long as you are with family, it's always enjoyable.
 ac_smile
			 
			
			
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I know many Chinese in my city who import goods from China..
What are your holiday plans DD?
Not much. Work loads go up over December and January. Probably just eat a lot of festive foods and get indigestion inside with the air con on while watching movies with the fam.
As long as you are with family, it's always enjoyable.
 ac_smile
Happy holidays to you and yours Fash if I'm not around later.
			 
			
			
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I know many Chinese in my city who import goods from China..
What are your holiday plans DD?
Not much. Work loads go up over December and January. Probably just eat a lot of festive foods and get indigestion inside with the air con on while watching movies with the fam.
As long as you are with family, it's always enjoyable.
 ac_smile
Happy holidays to you and yours Fash if I'm not around later.
Thank you very much DD and a very Merry Christmas to you as well.
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There's some truth to what you say, and sometimes the best selling products can be pretty unpredictable or no one ever gives a darn about, lol.
			 
			
			
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There's some truth to what you say, and sometimes the best selling products can be pretty unpredictable or no one ever gives a darn about, lol.
Well they get the goods at 1/6 to 1/10 of RRP, even with duties and container costs, then flog the cosmetically marked items pretty quickly at their warehouses and online. People don't care if they can pay 1/3 to 1/2 for what the chain stores are marking up. 
They might only carry one to two dozen SKU's at any one time depending on what's going but it's not labour intensive and the turn over is pretty fast.
			 
			
			
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It's pretty cut throat in Israel. Too many people into it.
			 
			
			
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It's pretty cut throat in Israel. Too many people into it.
It's like anything really. People will exploit the system in packs. There are immigrant groups here who drive around on the weekends in our rural areas looking for elderly people having garage sales who just want to lighten their households before going to nursing homes and don't realize what these guys are doing when they bully them into nearly giving their stuff away only to put it in their secondhand shops back in the city at monstrous markups. Word spreads in these ethnic groups and pretty soon most of the valuable garage sale stuff is gone before it even starts. 
Some of the older people have worked it out and now go to garage sales themselves to buy stuff to put in weekly or monthly garage sales of their own. 
Business is a vacuum.
			 
			
			
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There's some truth to what you say, and sometimes the best selling products can be pretty unpredictable or no one ever gives a darn about, lol.
Well they get the goods at 1/6 to 1/10 of RRP, even with duties and container costs, then flog the cosmetically marked items pretty quickly at their warehouses and online. People don't care if they can pay 1/3 to 1/2 for what the chain stores are marking up. 
They might only carry one to two dozen SKU's at any one time depending on what's going but it's not labour intensive and the turn over is pretty fast.
I think I know which stuff you're referring too, i've seen it too, but it might be only one side of the coin.
			 
			
			
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There's some truth to what you say, and sometimes the best selling products can be pretty unpredictable or no one ever gives a darn about, lol.
Well they get the goods at 1/6 to 1/10 of RRP, even with duties and container costs, then flog the cosmetically marked items pretty quickly at their warehouses and online. People don't care if they can pay 1/3 to 1/2 for what the chain stores are marking up. 
They might only carry one to two dozen SKU's at any one time depending on what's going but it's not labour intensive and the turn over is pretty fast.
I think I know which stuff you're referring too, i've seen it too, but it might be only one side of the coin.
Dunno. One group originally only dealt with wiring, looms, cables, and other nickle and dime stuff but got out due to the flooding from other copycats and the slow turnaround once the box stores had too many desperates flogging for whatever they could get. I personally think it's better to keep the line items down and work on pull, if it's an option with the direct or middleman who has exclusive in Asia.
			 
			
			
				I work until Friday. I get ten glorious days off.
			
			
			
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There's some truth to what you say, and sometimes the best selling products can be pretty unpredictable or no one ever gives a darn about, lol.
Well they get the goods at 1/6 to 1/10 of RRP, even with duties and container costs, then flog the cosmetically marked items pretty quickly at their warehouses and online. People don't care if they can pay 1/3 to 1/2 for what the chain stores are marking up. 
They might only carry one to two dozen SKU's at any one time depending on what's going but it's not labour intensive and the turn over is pretty fast.
I think I know which stuff you're referring too, i've seen it too, but it might be only one side of the coin.
Dunno. One group originally only dealt with wiring, looms, cables, and other nickle and dime stuff but got out due to the flooding from other copycats and the slow turnaround once the box stores had too many desperates flogging for whatever they could get. I personally think it's better to keep the line items down and work on pull, if it's an option with the direct or middleman who has exclusive in Asia.
I guess the advantage of these business is you dun need much capital to import, but like you, Gaon and myself know competition, rent cost or mortgage/property tax, travel to source and other misc expense will cull these business pretty quick.
			 
			
			
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It's pretty cut throat in Israel. Too many people into it.
It's like anything really. People will exploit the system in packs. There are immigrant groups here who drive around on the weekends in our rural areas looking for elderly people having garage sales who just want to lighten their households before going to nursing homes and don't realize what these guys are doing when they bully them into nearly giving their stuff away only to put it in their secondhand shops back in the city at monstrous markups. Word spreads in these ethnic groups and pretty soon most of the valuable garage sale stuff is gone before it even starts. 
Some of the older people have worked it out and now go to garage sales themselves to buy stuff to put in weekly or monthly garage sales of their own. 
Business is a vacuum.
Lol imo that not real business, just a bunch of con artist that needs to be identified and get their asses kick.
			 
			
			
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It's pretty cut throat in Israel. Too many people into it.
It's like anything really. People will exploit the system in packs. There are immigrant groups here who drive around on the weekends in our rural areas looking for elderly people having garage sales who just want to lighten their households before going to nursing homes and don't realize what these guys are doing when they bully them into nearly giving their stuff away only to put it in their secondhand shops back in the city at monstrous markups. Word spreads in these ethnic groups and pretty soon most of the valuable garage sale stuff is gone before it even starts. 
Some of the older people have worked it out and now go to garage sales themselves to buy stuff to put in weekly or monthly garage sales of their own. 
Business is a vacuum.
Lol imo that not real business, just a bunch of con artist that needs to be identified and get their asses kick.
Oh, I dunno. There isn't much difference here. Just the scope. When the established businesses do it, relative mind you, it's delivering to shareholders. When sole proprietors do it, relative again, it's predatory behaviour which has no room in an ethics based society. 
I don't see a major difference except it's easier to get angry at those you see doing it without the corporate curtain obscuring.
			 
			
			
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It's pretty cut throat in Israel. Too many people into it.
It's like anything really. People will exploit the system in packs. There are immigrant groups here who drive around on the weekends in our rural areas looking for elderly people having garage sales who just want to lighten their households before going to nursing homes and don't realize what these guys are doing when they bully them into nearly giving their stuff away only to put it in their secondhand shops back in the city at monstrous markups. Word spreads in these ethnic groups and pretty soon most of the valuable garage sale stuff is gone before it even starts. 
Some of the older people have worked it out and now go to garage sales themselves to buy stuff to put in weekly or monthly garage sales of their own. 
Business is a vacuum.
Lol imo that not real business, just a bunch of con artist that needs to be identified and get their asses kick.
Oh, I dunno. There isn't much difference here. Just the scope. When the established businesses do it, relative mind you, it's delivering to shareholders. When sole proprietors do it, relative again, it's predatory behaviour which has no room in an ethics based society. 
I don't see a major difference except it's easier to get angry at those you see doing it without the corporate curtain obscuring.
The difference is one is productive to the society and highly needed is sustain the economy, meanwhile the other group is really better off disappeared without a trace.
			 
			
			
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It's pretty cut throat in Israel. Too many people into it.
It's like anything really. People will exploit the system in packs. There are immigrant groups here who drive around on the weekends in our rural areas looking for elderly people having garage sales who just want to lighten their households before going to nursing homes and don't realize what these guys are doing when they bully them into nearly giving their stuff away only to put it in their secondhand shops back in the city at monstrous markups. Word spreads in these ethnic groups and pretty soon most of the valuable garage sale stuff is gone before it even starts. 
Some of the older people have worked it out and now go to garage sales themselves to buy stuff to put in weekly or monthly garage sales of their own. 
Business is a vacuum.
Lol imo that not real business, just a bunch of con artist that needs to be identified and get their asses kick.
Oh, I dunno. There isn't much difference here. Just the scope. When the established businesses do it, relative mind you, it's delivering to shareholders. When sole proprietors do it, relative again, it's predatory behaviour which has no room in an ethics based society. 
I don't see a major difference except it's easier to get angry at those you see doing it without the corporate curtain obscuring.
The difference is one is productive to the society and highly needed is sustain the economy, meanwhile the other group is really better off disappeared without a trace.
Tell that to the supermarket price wars on milk here which has been bankrupting dairy farmers and causing a great number of suicides. Similar things have been happening with all kinds of produce. Farmers are barely breaking even in best case scenarios and the supermarkets are unapologetic.
There's similar things happening in our banking sector, an oligarchy of a handful of major banks.
			 
			
			
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There's some truth to what you say, and sometimes the best selling products can be pretty unpredictable or no one ever gives a darn about, lol.
Well they get the goods at 1/6 to 1/10 of RRP, even with duties and container costs, then flog the cosmetically marked items pretty quickly at their warehouses and online. People don't care if they can pay 1/3 to 1/2 for what the chain stores are marking up. 
They might only carry one to two dozen SKU's at any one time depending on what's going but it's not labour intensive and the turn over is pretty fast.
I think I know which stuff you're referring too, i've seen it too, but it might be only one side of the coin.
Dunno. One group originally only dealt with wiring, looms, cables, and other nickle and dime stuff but got out due to the flooding from other copycats and the slow turnaround once the box stores had too many desperates flogging for whatever they could get. I personally think it's better to keep the line items down and work on pull, if it's an option with the direct or middleman who has exclusive in Asia.
I guess the advantage of these business is you dun need much capital to import, but like you, Gaon and myself know competition, rent cost or mortgage/property tax, travel to source and other misc expense will cull these business pretty quick.
I know some Chinese in Calgary in the import business..
It doesn't seem that lucrative unless you have had to find products.
			 
			
			
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It's pretty cut throat in Israel. Too many people into it.
It's like anything really. People will exploit the system in packs. There are immigrant groups here who drive around on the weekends in our rural areas looking for elderly people having garage sales who just want to lighten their households before going to nursing homes and don't realize what these guys are doing when they bully them into nearly giving their stuff away only to put it in their secondhand shops back in the city at monstrous markups. Word spreads in these ethnic groups and pretty soon most of the valuable garage sale stuff is gone before it even starts. 
Some of the older people have worked it out and now go to garage sales themselves to buy stuff to put in weekly or monthly garage sales of their own. 
Business is a vacuum.
Lol imo that not real business, just a bunch of con artist that needs to be identified and get their asses kick.
Oh, I dunno. There isn't much difference here. Just the scope. When the established businesses do it, relative mind you, it's delivering to shareholders. When sole proprietors do it, relative again, it's predatory behaviour which has no room in an ethics based society. 
I don't see a major difference except it's easier to get angry at those you see doing it without the corporate curtain obscuring.
The difference is one is productive to the society and highly needed is sustain the economy, meanwhile the other group is really better off disappeared without a trace.
Tell that to the supermarket price wars on milk here which has been bankrupting dairy farmers and causing a great number of suicides. Similar things have been happening with all kinds of produce. Farmers are barely breaking even in best case scenarios and the supermarkets are unapologetic.
I'm not too familiar with the events in Oz but I can tell you this doesn't reflect the average company or corporation.  Let's face it, if you despise large business so much you might as well stop using everything you have.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
It's pretty cut throat in Israel. Too many people into it.
It's like anything really. People will exploit the system in packs. There are immigrant groups here who drive around on the weekends in our rural areas looking for elderly people having garage sales who just want to lighten their households before going to nursing homes and don't realize what these guys are doing when they bully them into nearly giving their stuff away only to put it in their secondhand shops back in the city at monstrous markups. Word spreads in these ethnic groups and pretty soon most of the valuable garage sale stuff is gone before it even starts. 
Some of the older people have worked it out and now go to garage sales themselves to buy stuff to put in weekly or monthly garage sales of their own. 
Business is a vacuum.
Lol imo that not real business, just a bunch of con artist that needs to be identified and get their asses kick.
Oh, I dunno. There isn't much difference here. Just the scope. When the established businesses do it, relative mind you, it's delivering to shareholders. When sole proprietors do it, relative again, it's predatory behaviour which has no room in an ethics based society. 
I don't see a major difference except it's easier to get angry at those you see doing it without the corporate curtain obscuring.
The difference is one is productive to the society and highly needed is sustain the economy, meanwhile the other group is really better off disappeared without a trace.
Tell that to the supermarket price wars on milk here which has been bankrupting dairy farmers and causing a great number of suicides. Similar things have been happening with all kinds of produce. Farmers are barely breaking even in best case scenarios and the supermarkets are unapologetic.
I'm not too familiar with the events in Oz but I can tell you this doesn't reflect the average company or corporation.  Let's face it, if you despise large business so much you might as well stop using everything you have.
I've got no issue with business as long as it's operating in truly free market, which Australia isn't anywhere near achieving. We're overregulated and big business gets given protection from our big government. It's a mugs game.
			 
			
			
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There's some truth to what you say, and sometimes the best selling products can be pretty unpredictable or no one ever gives a darn about, lol.
Well they get the goods at 1/6 to 1/10 of RRP, even with duties and container costs, then flog the cosmetically marked items pretty quickly at their warehouses and online. People don't care if they can pay 1/3 to 1/2 for what the chain stores are marking up. 
They might only carry one to two dozen SKU's at any one time depending on what's going but it's not labour intensive and the turn over is pretty fast.
I think I know which stuff you're referring too, i've seen it too, but it might be only one side of the coin.
Dunno. One group originally only dealt with wiring, looms, cables, and other nickle and dime stuff but got out due to the flooding from other copycats and the slow turnaround once the box stores had too many desperates flogging for whatever they could get. I personally think it's better to keep the line items down and work on pull, if it's an option with the direct or middleman who has exclusive in Asia.
I guess the advantage of these business is you dun need much capital to import, but like you, Gaon and myself know competition, rent cost or mortgage/property tax, travel to source and other misc expense will cull these business pretty quick.
I know some Chinese in Calgary in the import business..
It doesn't seem that lucrative unless you have had to find products.
Now that i've tried it out, I wouldn't be surprised if the average store owner in Canada makes slightly below Ontario min wage, lol.  I assume most store owners still need to work full time to sustain a living, but at least they get to customize their own work hours.
			 
			
			
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It's pretty cut throat in Israel. Too many people into it.
It's like anything really. People will exploit the system in packs. There are immigrant groups here who drive around on the weekends in our rural areas looking for elderly people having garage sales who just want to lighten their households before going to nursing homes and don't realize what these guys are doing when they bully them into nearly giving their stuff away only to put it in their secondhand shops back in the city at monstrous markups. Word spreads in these ethnic groups and pretty soon most of the valuable garage sale stuff is gone before it even starts. 
Some of the older people have worked it out and now go to garage sales themselves to buy stuff to put in weekly or monthly garage sales of their own. 
Business is a vacuum.
Lol imo that not real business, just a bunch of con artist that needs to be identified and get their asses kick.
Oh, I dunno. There isn't much difference here. Just the scope. When the established businesses do it, relative mind you, it's delivering to shareholders. When sole proprietors do it, relative again, it's predatory behaviour which has no room in an ethics based society. 
I don't see a major difference except it's easier to get angry at those you see doing it without the corporate curtain obscuring.
The difference is one is productive to the society and highly needed is sustain the economy, meanwhile the other group is really better off disappeared without a trace.
Tell that to the supermarket price wars on milk here which has been bankrupting dairy farmers and causing a great number of suicides. Similar things have been happening with all kinds of produce. Farmers are barely breaking even in best case scenarios and the supermarkets are unapologetic.
I'm not too familiar with the events in Oz but I can tell you this doesn't reflect the average company or corporation.  Let's face it, if you despise large business so much you might as well stop using everything you have.
I've got no issue with business as long as it's operating in truly free market, which Australia isn't anywhere near achieving. We're overregulated and big business gets given protection from our big government. It's a mugs game.
If that's the case then yea I do agree the government should stop interfering with business, whether it is providing them corporate welfare or over taxing them.  As long as people are providing a service or benefit to the society and not exploiting others or loop holes.
			 
			
			
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My sister in law and her mom will be coming over to Toronto during Christmas to see the aurora lights, though I won't be going with them.  Maybe it's time I should pay my best friend a visit this Xmas... only met up with him once every year since he moved to the US.  ac_unsure
Oooo, I would love to see the aurora lights some time in my life.
I feel ya, my brother was kinda like my best friend, and I only see him once a year, then he comes here once a year, which I think is in a few weeks. Which state he in?
He's working at New Jersey, he really like the life there, though stress at his work place has been creeping up to him lately, maybe it's time I should buy him something since I really haven't seen him in quite a while.
I'm not a big fan of the aurora, though I wouldn't mind going there in a tour group.  But if you're ever interested I believe there's some cheap tickets to visit northern Canada for a couple hundred USD and covers almost everything.  ac_cool
Right on on the lights!
Hell Jersey aint far from me at all lol. My son hated going through there, all the tolls.
			 
			
			
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We're doing ok I guess, plus it's just me and my brother, we're still no were close to be called a large successful business lol.  Everyday is just my brother and I burning money for the business start up but still haven't earn a single penny.  All our friends assumed we're already super successful but they couldn't be any farther from the truth.  :001_tongue:
Have you had an uptick in sales for Christmas?
Currently I'm still figuring out how to get our webpage to show up from google's SEO, plus I doubt we'll be able to sell our first product before Christmas.  :001_tongue:
Im good at getting websites on the first page of a google search, usually near the top. If you need advice, just let me know  ac_smile
			 
			
			
				Is this a regular work week for you Blazor?
I'm on holidays until January 2..
I'm bored already, I think I'll clean my house again.
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				Quote from: "Fashionista"
I'm on holidays until January 2..
I'm bored already, I think I'll clean my house again.
 :laugh:
Yes mam, I posted my days off earlier in this thread lol (Saturday through Tuesday, 4 days)  ac_smile 
I bet you're getting bored! I could use some help Christmas shopping and goodie making if you're bored  :laugh:
			 
			
			
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I'm on holidays until January 2..
I'm bored already, I think I'll clean my house again.
 :laugh:
Yes mam,
I bet you're getting bored! I could use some help Christmas shopping and goodie making if you're bored  :laugh:
Oops, sorry Blazor..
I like both of those activities..
I already have extra baking ready to give away to nice people.
 ac_smile
			 
			
			
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I'm on holidays until January 2..
I'm bored already, I think I'll clean my house again.
 :laugh:
Yes mam,
I bet you're getting bored! I could use some help Christmas shopping and goodie making if you're bored  :laugh:
Oops, sorry Blazor..
I like both of those activities..
I already have extra baking ready to give away to nice people.
 ac_smile
Its a shame I dont live closer then  :laugh: 
Fudge is the first thing Im making, so I can mail some out. 
I havent even started my Christmas shopping yet, except for ingredients for goodies.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Blazor"
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I'm on holidays until January 2..
I'm bored already, I think I'll clean my house again.
 :laugh:
Yes mam,
I bet you're getting bored! I could use some help Christmas shopping and goodie making if you're bored  :laugh:
Oops, sorry Blazor..
I like both of those activities..
I already have extra baking ready to give away to nice people.
 ac_smile
Its a shame I dont live closer then  :laugh: 
Fudge is the first thing Im making, so I can mail some out. 
I havent even started my Christmas shopping yet, except for ingredients for goodies.
Oh my goodness Blazor..
I start in the first week of October..
A little less so now that my children are getting older.
			 
			
			
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I'm on holidays until January 2..
I'm bored already, I think I'll clean my house again.
 :laugh:
Yes mam,
I bet you're getting bored! I could use some help Christmas shopping and goodie making if you're bored  :laugh:
Oops, sorry Blazor..
I like both of those activities..
I already have extra baking ready to give away to nice people.
 ac_smile
Its a shame I dont live closer then  :laugh: 
Fudge is the first thing Im making, so I can mail some out. 
I havent even started my Christmas shopping yet, except for ingredients for goodies.
Oh my goodness Blazor..
I start in the first week of October..
A little less so now that my children are getting older.
Think all presents are going on a credit card this year. Son wants tires for his truck, I told him I might be able to afford one or two lol.
I dont like to start til after Thanksgiving. But each year it gets closer to Christmas lol.
			 
			
			
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I'm on holidays until January 2..
I'm bored already, I think I'll clean my house again.
 :laugh:
Yes mam,
I bet you're getting bored! I could use some help Christmas shopping and goodie making if you're bored  :laugh:
Oops, sorry Blazor..
I like both of those activities..
I already have extra baking ready to give away to nice people.
 ac_smile
Its a shame I dont live closer then  :laugh: 
Fudge is the first thing Im making, so I can mail some out. 
I havent even started my Christmas shopping yet, except for ingredients for goodies.
Oh my goodness Blazor..
I start in the first week of October..
A little less so now that my children are getting older.
Think all presents are going on a credit card this year. Son wants tires for his truck, I told him I might be able to afford one or two lol.
I dont like to start til after Thanksgiving. But each year it gets closer to Christmas lol.
I  hate to sound like a broken record, but I was wondering if you have made a decision about your work future?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
I  hate to sound like a broken record, but I was wondering if you have made a decision about your work future?
I decided not to worry about it til after Christmas. Whatever happens happens.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Blazor"
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I  hate to sound like a broken record, but I was wondering if you have made a decision about your work future?
I decided not to worry about it til after Christmas. Whatever happens happens.
I'll be praying for your success Blazor.
 ac_smile
			 
			
			
				I still haven't decided what I'll be doing this Xmas, but I hope it will be indoors.
			
			
			
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And with people you enjoy being with..
Merry Christmas shin.
 ac_smile
			 
			
			
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I  hate to sound like a broken record, but I was wondering if you have made a decision about your work future?
I decided not to worry about it til after Christmas. Whatever happens happens.
I'll be praying for your success Blazor.
 ac_smile
Thank ya mam  :howdy:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "shin"
Too cold out for anything outdoors for sure. Today isnt bad, 55 here.
Hope whatever you do puts a smile on your face, and tasty food in your belly  ac_smile
			 
			
			
				I am cooking my contribution to two family Christmas dinners. I look forward to it because I love to cook. We exchange gifts and then lots of conversations to have!
			
			
			
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Christmas dinner is a lot of preparation, but I love it too..
On Friday, I will be cooking a Christmas dinner at home and bringing it to my husband's shop..
I do this every year for Christmas.
			 
			
			
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We're doing ok I guess, plus it's just me and my brother, we're still no were close to be called a large successful business lol.  Everyday is just my brother and I burning money for the business start up but still haven't earn a single penny.  All our friends assumed we're already super successful but they couldn't be any farther from the truth.  :001_tongue:
Have you had an uptick in sales for Christmas?
Currently I'm still figuring out how to get our webpage to show up from google's SEO, plus I doubt we'll be able to sell our first product before Christmas.  :001_tongue:
Im good at getting websites on the first page of a google search, usually near the top. If you need advice, just let me know  ac_smile
Cool okie, lol if I still end up pulling my last strand of hair from trying to get my website to work, then I'll be back, and begging you for help.  :001_tongue:
			 
			
			
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We're doing ok I guess, plus it's just me and my brother, we're still no were close to be called a large successful business lol.  Everyday is just my brother and I burning money for the business start up but still haven't earn a single penny.  All our friends assumed we're already super successful but they couldn't be any farther from the truth.  :001_tongue:
Have you had an uptick in sales for Christmas?
Currently I'm still figuring out how to get our webpage to show up from google's SEO, plus I doubt we'll be able to sell our first product before Christmas.  :001_tongue:
Im good at getting websites on the first page of a google search, usually near the top. If you need advice, just let me know  ac_smile
Cool okie, lol if I still end up pulling my last strand of hair from trying to get my website to work, then I'll be back, and begging you for help.  :001_tongue:
Your website will be fine Zetsu.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Zetsu"
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We're doing ok I guess, plus it's just me and my brother, we're still no were close to be called a large successful business lol.  Everyday is just my brother and I burning money for the business start up but still haven't earn a single penny.  All our friends assumed we're already super successful but they couldn't be any farther from the truth.  :001_tongue:
Have you had an uptick in sales for Christmas?
Currently I'm still figuring out how to get our webpage to show up from google's SEO, plus I doubt we'll be able to sell our first product before Christmas.  :001_tongue:
Im good at getting websites on the first page of a google search, usually near the top. If you need advice, just let me know  ac_smile
Cool okie, lol if I still end up pulling my last strand of hair from trying to get my website to work, then I'll be back, and begging you for help.  :001_tongue:
Lol right on  :laugh: 
If you have your keywords in place, and description and such, it could still take a few weeks for the spiders to crawl your site, especially a new site. Found this out last year, as Google has changed. Use to be it would crawl and be visible within a few days.