Title: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Anonymous on December 21, 2018, 02:16:26 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 21, 2018, 02:16:26 PM
OTTAWA — companies in Canada were among the targets of two Chinese citizens charged with waging an extensive hacking campaign to steal valuable data over many years, U.S. authorities say.
in an indictment unsealed Thursday, prosecutors say Zhu Hua and Zhang Shilong were acting on behalf of China's main intelligence agency to pilfer information from several countries.
Beginning about four years ago, Zhu and Zhang waged an intrusion campaign to gain access to computers and networks of "managed service providers" for businesses and governments around the world, the indictment says.
Such providers are private firms that manage clients' information by furnishing servers, storage, networking, consulting and information technology support. breaking into one such computer system can provide a route into multiple customers' data; the hackers breached the computers of enterprises involved in activities ranging from banking and telecommunications to mining and health care, say the papers filed in U.S. district court.
The indictment says Zhu and Zhang are members of a group operating in china known as advanced Persistent Threat 10. They purportedly broke into computers belonging to — or providing services to — companies in at least 12 countries, including Canada.
How? according to the indictment, they used forged emails to get unwitting recipients to open files impregnated with security breaching malware, a technique called "spear-phishing."
The two suspects, who worked for Huaying Haital Science and Technology development co. in Tianjin, are accused of acting in association with the chinese ministry of State Security's Tianjin State Security bureau.
Canada's communications Security Establishment issued a statement supporting the U.S. allegations a few hours after the american announcement.
"Today, many of Canada's allies and partners have made statements concerning the compromise of several managed Service Providers. CSE also assesses that it is almost certain that actors likely associated with the People's republic of china (PRC) ministry of State Security (MSS) are responsible for the compromise of several managed Service Providers (MSP), beginning as early as 2016," it said.
The statement said canadian authorities detected the threat at the time and warned businesses in general terms about good security habits in dealing with these providers.
The CSE sent out a more detailed bulletin after Thursday's indictments, advocating practices such as "multi-factor authentication," which requires people to sign into computers in more than one way, and running background monitoring software that sends up an alert when an apparently legitimate user starts doing unusual things on a company network.
Public Safety minister Ralph Goodale said in a news conference that the government isn't aware that any data was stolen from Canadians.
"To the best of our knowledge, we do not have reports — to the best of my knowledge — of specific losses, but we are aware of intrusions," he said.
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Anonymous on December 21, 2018, 02:25:04 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 21, 2018, 02:25:04 PM
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Gaon on December 21, 2018, 03:38:43 PM
Post by: Gaon on December 21, 2018, 03:38:43 PM
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Blazor on December 21, 2018, 04:12:02 PM
Post by: Blazor on December 21, 2018, 04:12:02 PM
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Gaon on December 21, 2018, 04:19:10 PM
Post by: Gaon on December 21, 2018, 04:19:10 PM
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Bricktop on December 21, 2018, 05:41:42 PM
Post by: Bricktop on December 21, 2018, 05:41:42 PM
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Anonymous on December 21, 2018, 05:43:17 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 21, 2018, 05:43:17 PM
Has anyone ever heard of the Israeli Elite Force?Quote from: "Gaon"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0f/Israeli_Elite_Force_Hackers_Official_Twitter_Logo.jpeg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/%20...%20_Logo.jpeg%22%3Ehttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0f/Israeli_Elite_Force_Hackers_Official_Twitter_Logo.jpeg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
I looked it up.
Israeli Elite Force (iEF) is a hacktivism group founded two days before OpIsrael on April 5, 2013[1] that is responsible for multiple high-profile computer attacks and large scale online vandalism. Targets include ISPs, domain registrars, commercial websites, educational institutions, and government agencies.
The group is led by Mitziyahu, naming himself co-ordinator, instead of leader. Stating in interviews for The Daily Beast, Israeli Channel 2 News, and more, that the mission of the iEF is to regain the Israeli citizen confidence of their hackers, and to fight Islamic cyber terrorism
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Anonymous on December 21, 2018, 05:44:07 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 21, 2018, 05:44:07 PM
China needs to be confronted and its constantly bluffing called.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Good luck with that.
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Bricktop on December 21, 2018, 06:36:03 PM
Post by: Bricktop on December 21, 2018, 06:36:03 PM
This is, of course, bollocks.
The combined might of the US, NATO, ANZUS, Japan, Israel and other allied nations would make short work of any other nation.
And there is no doubt that our security agencies are just as busy as theirs.
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Anonymous on December 21, 2018, 06:37:16 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 21, 2018, 06:37:16 PM
We in the West are constantly battered with myths about how strong and aggressive our adversaries are compared to our puny and ineffective defences.Quote from: "Bricktop"
This is, of course, bollocks.
The combined might of the US, NATO, ANZUS, Japan, Israel and other allied nations would make short work of any other nation.
And there is no doubt that our security agencies are just as busy as theirs.
You want war with China?
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Gaon on December 21, 2018, 06:43:56 PM
Post by: Gaon on December 21, 2018, 06:43:56 PM
We in the West are constantly battered with myths about how strong and aggressive our adversaries are compared to our puny and ineffective defences.Quote from: "Bricktop"
This is, of course, bollocks.
The combined might of the US, NATO, ANZUS, Japan, Israel and other allied nations would make short work of any other nation.
And there is no doubt that our security agencies are just as busy as theirs.
You want war with China?
:confused1:
That's not what he's saying.
He's saying that the combined power of the West could defeat China. The West doesn't have to kiss China's boots.
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Bricktop on December 21, 2018, 07:54:35 PM
Post by: Bricktop on December 21, 2018, 07:54:35 PM
We have no need to tremble in fear at China.
They are nowhere near as strong as the West. Now that they are financially tied to the West, they need to be taught some manners.
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on December 21, 2018, 08:03:12 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on December 21, 2018, 08:03:12 PM
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Anonymous on December 21, 2018, 08:35:25 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 21, 2018, 08:35:25 PM
We in the West are constantly battered with myths about how strong and aggressive our adversaries are compared to our puny and ineffective defences.Quote from: "Bricktop"
This is, of course, bollocks.
The combined might of the US, NATO, ANZUS, Japan, Israel and other allied nations would make short work of any other nation.
And there is no doubt that our security agencies are just as busy as theirs.
You want war with China?
:confused1:
That's not what he's saying.
He's saying that the combined power of the West could defeat China. The West doesn't have to kiss China's boots.
I see.
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Zetsu on December 21, 2018, 09:19:30 PM
Post by: Zetsu on December 21, 2018, 09:19:30 PM
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Gaon on December 21, 2018, 09:32:46 PM
Post by: Gaon on December 21, 2018, 09:32:46 PM
China is really one of those countries that will benefit the world if they just magically disappeared off the face of the earth one day.Quote from: "Zetsu"
That would put Australia's economy under water overnight.
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on December 21, 2018, 09:51:00 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on December 21, 2018, 09:51:00 PM
China is really one of those countries that will benefit the world if they just magically disappeared off the face of the earth one day.Quote from: "Zetsu"
Yikes. Wait til Shen Li reads this.
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: cc on December 21, 2018, 10:04:04 PM
Post by: cc on December 21, 2018, 10:04:04 PM
China is really one of those countries that will benefit the world if they just magically disappeared off the face of the earth one day.Quote from: "Zetsu"
So, just make it go poof ... ter
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Anonymous on December 21, 2018, 10:14:54 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 21, 2018, 10:14:54 PM
Anyone that thinks China isn't trying to influence outcomes in elections in the West is naive.Quote from: "Fashionista"
China has politicians in this country in their hip pocket. Trudeau is one of them.
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Bricktop on December 22, 2018, 02:45:25 AM
Post by: Bricktop on December 22, 2018, 02:45:25 AM
China is really one of those countries that will benefit the world if they just magically disappeared off the face of the earth one day.Quote from: "Zetsu"
That would put Australia's economy under water overnight.
That would be one of the world's less troublesome problems if that were the case.
However, I believe the West is far more resilient and enduring that we take credit for.
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Anonymous on December 22, 2018, 10:39:39 AM
Post by: Anonymous on December 22, 2018, 10:39:39 AM
China is really one of those countries that will benefit the world if they just magically disappeared off the face of the earth one day.Quote from: "Zetsu"
Yikes. Wait til Shen Li reads this.
She was here last night..
I guess she missed it.
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Zetsu on December 22, 2018, 06:08:03 PM
Post by: Zetsu on December 22, 2018, 06:08:03 PM
China is really one of those countries that will benefit the world if they just magically disappeared off the face of the earth one day.Quote from: "Zetsu"
That would put Australia's economy under water overnight.
There is truth to what you mentioned, Oz and Russia might lose their biggest and 2nd largest trading partner and Africa might lose their source of investment, but then it's no doubt worth it for Canada and the US from trade deficit, stolen patent and ideas, states being threatened like Taiwan and the Philipines, anchor babies, 90% or higher tax evading immigrants, insane ammount of resource consuption from the world, milking Canada's welfare system, immigrants that have no national loyalty, gratitude or morally bankrupted, supremist assholes to darker skinned ethnic groups, infringe of copyrights, spies costing Canada over a billion $CAD of data breach every year, etc.
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: cc on December 22, 2018, 06:08:34 PM
Post by: cc on December 22, 2018, 06:08:34 PM
She was here last night..
I guess she missed it.
:laugh:
Wait till she sees this one
Furious Chinese Communists have begun arresting innocent Canadians in retaliation. So far, three of these "revenge hostages" have been taken and are being held in secret jails on vague charges. Beijing hints that the hostage count may grow if Meng is not freed and fast.
Even for a thuggish regime like China's, this kind of action is almost unprecedented.
It turns out that "Princess" Meng, as she is called, is Communist royalty. Her grandfather was a close comrade of Chairman Mao during the Chinese Civil War, who went on to become vice governor of China's largest province.
She is also the daughter of Huawei's Founder and Chairman, Ren Zhengfei. Daddy is grooming her to succeed him when he retires.
In other words, Meng is the heiress apparent of China's largest and most advanced hi-tech company, and one which plays a key role in China's grand strategy of global domination.
Huawei is a leader in 5G technology and, earlier this year, surpassed Apple to become the second largest smartphone maker in the world behind Samsung.
But Huawei is much more than an innocent manufacturer of smartphones.
It is a spy agency of the Chinese Communist Party.
How do we know?
Because the party has repeatedly said so.
First in 2015 and then again in June 2017, the party declared that all Chinese companies must collaborate in gathering intelligence.
All Chinese companies, whether they are private or owned by the state, are now part and parcel of the party's massive overseas espionage campaign.
Huawei is a key part of this aggressive effort to spy on the rest of the world. The company's smartphones, according to FBI Director Christopher Wray, can be used to "maliciously modify or steal information," as well as "conduct undetected espionage." Earlier this year the Pentagon banned the devices from all US military bases worldwide.
But Huawei, which has been specially designated as a "
As a global leader in 5G technology, it has been tasked with installing 5G "fiber to the phone" networks in countries around the world.
In fact, "
Any network system installed by a company working hand-in-glove with China's intelligence services raises the danger of not only cyber espionage, but also cyber-enabled technology theft.
And the danger doesn't stop there.
The new superfast 5G networks, which are 100 times faster than 4G, will literally run the world of the future. Everything from smartphones to smart cities, from self-driving vehicles to, yes, even weapons systems, will be under their control.
In other words, whoever controls the 5G networks will control the world — or at least large parts of it.
Huawei has reportedly secured more than 25 commercial contracts for 5G, but has been locked out of an increasing number of countries around the world because of spying concerns.
The "Five Eyes" — Great Britain, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, and the US — have over the past year waged a concerted campaign to block the Chinese tech giant from dominating next-generation wireless networks around the world. Not only have they largely kept Huawei out of their own countries, they have convinced other countries like Japan, India and Germany to go along, too.
Whoever controls the 5G networks will control the world — or at least large parts of it.
Yet Huawei is far from finished. The company has grown into a global brand over the past two decades because, as a "national champion," it is constantly being fed and nourished by the party and the military with low-interest-rate loans, privileged access to a protected domestic market, and other preferential treatment.
These various state subsidies continue, giving Huawei a huge and unfair advantage over its free market competitors.
Huawei stands in the same relationship to the Chinese Communist Party as German steelmaker Alfried Krupp did to Germany's National Socialists in the days leading up to WWII.
Just as Germany's leading supplier of armaments basically became an arm of the Nazi machine after war broke out, so is China's leading hi-tech company an essential element of the party's cold war plan to dominate the world of the future.
As far as "Princess" Meng is concerned, I expect that she will be found guilty of committing bank fraud, ordered to pay a fine, and then released. Even a billion dollar fine would be chump change for a seventy-five-billion-dollar corporation like Huawei.
The real payoff of her arrest lies elsewhere. It has exposed the massive campaign of espionage that Huawei is carrying out around the world at the behest of the Party. It has revealed how that Party dreams of a new world order in which China, not America, is dominant.
The two Chinese characters that make up Huawei's name literally mean, "
Steven W. Mosher is the President of the Population Research Institute and the author of "Bully of Asia: Why China's Dream is the New Threat to World Order."
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Zetsu on December 22, 2018, 06:08:59 PM
Post by: Zetsu on December 22, 2018, 06:08:59 PM
China is really one of those countries that will benefit the world if they just magically disappeared off the face of the earth one day.Quote from: "Zetsu"
Yikes. Wait til Shen Li reads this.
Ahh she doesn't care much, or least it's not the first day she knows me.
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Zetsu on December 22, 2018, 06:11:24 PM
Post by: Zetsu on December 22, 2018, 06:11:24 PM
China is really one of those countries that will benefit the world if they just magically disappeared off the face of the earth one day.Quote from: "Zetsu"
So, just make it go poof ... terac_biggrin
Lol, just wait till the pendulum swings back to our side, we'll get our turn.
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Anonymous on December 22, 2018, 06:25:30 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 22, 2018, 06:25:30 PM
China is really one of those countries that will benefit the world if they just magically disappeared off the face of the earth one day.Quote from: "Zetsu"
Yikes. Wait til Shen Li reads this.
Ahh she doesn't care much, or least it's not the first day she knows me.:001_tongue:
Shen Li loses her temper easily, but not at you, Azhya, or cc.
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Bricktop on December 22, 2018, 06:40:29 PM
Post by: Bricktop on December 22, 2018, 06:40:29 PM
The "Five Eyes" — Great Britain, Canada, New Zealand,Australia, and the US
I believe we were the first to shut them out of the 5G implementation program here in Oz.
I don't even know if they sell their handsets here...I've never seen one. Most people are cognisant of Huawei's dubious corporate ambitions.
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Anonymous on December 22, 2018, 06:44:36 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 22, 2018, 06:44:36 PM
The "Five Eyes" — Great Britain, Canada, New Zealand,Australia, and the US
I believe we were the first to shut them out of the 5G implementation program here in Oz.
I don't even know if they sell their handsets here...I've never seen one. Most people are cognisant of Huawei's dubious corporate ambitions.
I don't like mainland China and I don't trust anything they do.
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Anonymous on December 22, 2018, 07:07:49 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 22, 2018, 07:07:49 PM
"All organizations and citizens," reads Article 7 of China's National Intelligence Law, "must support, assist with, and collaborate in national intelligence work, and guard the national intelligence work secrets they are privy to."Quote
All Chinese companies, whether they are private or owned by the state, are now part and parcel of the party's massive overseas espionage campaign.
This right here.
I don't understand exactly how 5G works even after Vancouver Guy explained it. I don't want a Chinese state controlled muppet in charge of it.
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Zetsu on December 22, 2018, 07:14:21 PM
Post by: Zetsu on December 22, 2018, 07:14:21 PM
"All organizations and citizens," reads Article 7 of China's National Intelligence Law, "must support, assist with, and collaborate in national intelligence work, and guard the national intelligence work secrets they are privy to."Quote
All Chinese companies, whether they are private or owned by the state, are now part and parcel of the party's massive overseas espionage campaign.
This right here.
I don't understand exactly how 5G works even after Vancouver Guy explained it. I don't want a Chinese state controlled muppet in charge of it.
Not only that, but the worst part is if you run a company, factory or any kind of organization in mainland China, you must pay with your own money to hire a member of the Chinese Communist Party to monitor you and your employees at your work place 24/7 just so the government is sure you aren't trying to lead a revolt against them.
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Zetsu on December 22, 2018, 07:19:20 PM
Post by: Zetsu on December 22, 2018, 07:19:20 PM
China is really one of those countries that will benefit the world if they just magically disappeared off the face of the earth one day.Quote from: "Zetsu"
Yikes. Wait til Shen Li reads this.
Ahh she doesn't care much, or least it's not the first day she knows me.:001_tongue:
Shen Li loses her temper easily, but not at you, Azhya, or cc.
Shen doesn't mind us, she knows I sanely dislike the mainland government in general, but one thing she knows I dislike even more is HK, lol.
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Anonymous on December 22, 2018, 07:21:18 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 22, 2018, 07:21:18 PM
"All organizations and citizens," reads Article 7 of China's National Intelligence Law, "must support, assist with, and collaborate in national intelligence work, and guard the national intelligence work secrets they are privy to."Quote
All Chinese companies, whether they are private or owned by the state, are now part and parcel of the party's massive overseas espionage campaign.
This right here.
I don't understand exactly how 5G works even after Vancouver Guy explained it. I don't want a Chinese state controlled muppet in charge of it.
Not only that, but the worst part is if you run a company, factory or any kind of organization in mainland China, you must pay with your own money to hire a member of the Chinese Communist Party to monitor you and your employees at your work place 24/7 just so the government is sure you aren't trying to lead a revolt against them.:sdfjh(2):
That is what the mafia does. Extort payments from businesses and have a goon look at the books to make sure you aren't trying to hide anything(revolt).
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Anonymous on December 22, 2018, 07:28:14 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 22, 2018, 07:28:14 PM
"All organizations and citizens," reads Article 7 of China's National Intelligence Law, "must support, assist with, and collaborate in national intelligence work, and guard the national intelligence work secrets they are privy to."Quote
All Chinese companies, whether they are private or owned by the state, are now part and parcel of the party's massive overseas espionage campaign.
This right here.
I don't understand exactly how 5G works even after Vancouver Guy explained it. I don't want a Chinese state controlled muppet in charge of it.
Not only that, but the worst part is if you run a company, factory or any kind of organization in mainland China, you must pay with your own money to hire a member of the Chinese Communist Party to monitor you and your employees at your work place 24/7 just so the government is sure you aren't trying to lead a revolt against them.:sdfjh(2):
My uncle used to manage a factory in Dongguan..
He told my father who told me some of the stories how business works in China..
What you posted brings back memories of those stories.
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Bricktop on December 22, 2018, 07:40:52 PM
Post by: Bricktop on December 22, 2018, 07:40:52 PM
I wouldn't trust the Chinese government with a $5 note.
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Zetsu on December 22, 2018, 07:58:51 PM
Post by: Zetsu on December 22, 2018, 07:58:51 PM
I have a number of Chinese friends and I would trust them with my life.Quote from: "Bricktop"I wouldn't trust the Chinese government with a $5 note.
I wouldn't either, and the funniest thing is CCP assumes everyone is stupid and easy enough to manipulate with their propaganda, whether they shout out of their dumb lungs to children there's no mafias in China, all White ppl are evil imperialists, and the obvious classic one Japanese are pigs.
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Anonymous on December 22, 2018, 08:05:12 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 22, 2018, 08:05:12 PM
I have a number of Chinese friends and I would trust them with my life.Quote from: "Bricktop"I wouldn't trust the Chinese government with a $5 note.
I wouldn't either, and the funniest thing is CCP assumes everyone is stupid and easy enough to manipulate with their propaganda, whether they shout out of their dumb lungs to children there's no mafias in China, all White ppl are evil imperialists, and the obvious classic one Japanese are pigs.:oeudC:
Mainlanders don't have opinions..
They are sheep who believe everything Peking tells them.
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Bricktop on December 22, 2018, 08:20:19 PM
Post by: Bricktop on December 22, 2018, 08:20:19 PM
Chinese people are not as dumb as their Communist overlords like to believe.
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Anonymous on December 22, 2018, 10:00:32 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 22, 2018, 10:00:32 PM
I have a number of Chinese friends and I would trust them with my life.Quote from: "Bricktop"I wouldn't trust the Chinese government with a $5 note.
I wouldn't either, and the funniest thing is CCP assumes everyone is stupid and easy enough to manipulate with their propaganda, whether they shout out of their dumb lungs to children there's no mafias in China, all White ppl are evil imperialists, and the obvious classic one Japanese are pigs.:oeudC:
Mainlanders don't have opinions..
They are sheep who believe everything Peking tells them.
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Bricktop on December 22, 2018, 10:34:04 PM
Post by: Bricktop on December 22, 2018, 10:34:04 PM
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Gaon on December 23, 2018, 10:20:29 PM
Post by: Gaon on December 23, 2018, 10:20:29 PM
Russia is a smokescreen. The real threat is China.
Title: Re: It's Chinese, not Russian hacking we need to focus on
Post by: Anonymous on December 26, 2018, 08:10:31 PM
Post by: Anonymous on December 26, 2018, 08:10:31 PM
More than 90% of economic espionage against the USA is carried out by China. It's all part of China's plan to outstrip the United States in cutting edge technology.Quote from: "Gaon"
Russia is a smokescreen. The real threat is China.
The West knows this, but they won't say it.