I was in the IDF for three years. I was an infantryman. I saw combat in the Second Intifada. And I was in the Battle of Jenin. Thankfully I wasn't injured. But, it's something I will never forget.
Has anyone else served in the military. I think Odinson might have. If you have, please tell us about it.
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I was in the IDF for three years. I was an infantryman. I saw combat in the Second Intifada. And I was in the Battle of Jenin. Thankfully I wasn't injured. But, it's something I will never forget.
Has anyone else served in the military. I think Odinson might have. If you have, please tell us about it.
Oh my goodness Gaon.
:ohmy:
To be honest, I never heard of that battle until now..
I do believe Odinson has some army experience, but he can confirm that..
Terrific thread Gaon.
:smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
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I was in the IDF for three years. I was an infantryman. I saw combat in the Second Intifada. And I was in the Battle of Jenin. Thankfully I wasn't injured. But, it's something I will never forget.
Has anyone else served in the military. I think Odinson might have. If you have, please tell us about it.
I just twenty three Israeli soldiers killed. And the usual prog media spin of Israeli soldiers committing unlawful killings of civilians.
Served in military and police.
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Served in military and police.
I know some Israelis who have made the transition to civilian police after serving in the IDF.
It's the allure of the gun...
I was in air cadets for five years. I got to serve a summer training course in Valcartier, Quebec. I loved it and I would recommend it to any young person. I was a cadet Flight Sergeant when I left.
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I was in air cadets for five years. I got to serve a summer training course in Valcartier, Quebec. I loved it and I would recommend it to any young person. I was a cadet Flight Sergeant when I left.
Did you ever consider a career in the Canadian air force?
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I was in air cadets for five years. I got to serve a summer training course in Valcartier, Quebec. I loved it and I would recommend it to any young person. I was a cadet Flight Sergeant when I left.
Did you ever consider a career in the Canadian air force?
I did. I wanted to be a pilot at one time.
But the lure of a professional golf career was too strong...
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But the lure of a professional golf career was too strong...
Unfortunately, I pay to golf instead of getting paid to golf as I should. Life isn't fair.
Never wanted to do military service. I don't do well with orders.
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Never wanted to do military service. I don't do well with orders.
I didn't have a choice.
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Never wanted to do military service. I don't do well with orders.
I didn't have a choice.
Being put in that situation would be tough.
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Never wanted to do military service. I don't do well with orders.
I didn't have a choice.
Being put in that situation would be tough.
It was an eye opener.
I made some great friendships though. I am still close friends with some of them today.
I was never in the army, cadets or even cub scouts. I never had any desire to either.
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Never wanted to do military service. I don't do well with orders.
You mean you're too chickenshit to put your neck on the line for others.
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Never wanted to do military service. I don't do well with orders.
You mean you're too chickenshit to put your neck on the line for others.
No.
I mean that I make my own decisions. I'm not a minion.
Right. A master of your own destiny.
I was Air Force Reservist as a late teen .. merely a part time and summer thing
Sure did lose a lot of my heritage people who fought the nazis in Air Force and Army, though
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I was Air Force Reservist as a late teen .. merely a part time and summer thing
Sure did lose a lot of my heritage people who fought the nazis in Air Force and Army, though
I can relate to that cc..
My grandfather, and my great uncles were conscripted into the Japanese Imperial Army..
Taiwanese got the jobs Japanese didn't want to do.
Yes, I was aware of how that worked
Between them and the nazis, the late 30s and early 40s were an unimaginable hell on earth
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I was Air Force Reservist as a late teen .. merely a part time and summer thing
Sure did lose a lot of my heritage people who fought the nazis in Air Force and Army, though
I can relate to that cc..
My grandfather, and my great uncles were conscripted into the Japanese Imperial Army..
Taiwanese got the jobs Japanese didn't want to do.
You are the first person to admit they had relatives to serve in Japan's military.
I think when she says "conscripted" she means "compelled". As in work for the military or be executed.
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I think when she says "conscripted" she means "compelled". As in work for the military or be executed.
I know what she means. I was conscripted, but I would not have been executed had I refused.
...that you know of...
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I was Air Force Reservist as a late teen .. merely a part time and summer thing
Sure did lose a lot of my heritage people who fought the nazis in Air Force and Army, though
I can relate to that cc..
My grandfather, and my great uncles were conscripted into the Japanese Imperial Army..
Taiwanese got the jobs Japanese didn't want to do.
You are the first person to admit they had relatives to serve in Japan's military.
There's a real stigma among East Asians who have relatives who served Imperial Japan, even if it was against their will.
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I think when she says "conscripted" she means "compelled". As in work for the military or be executed.
I know what she means. I was conscripted, but I would not have been executed had I refused.
My husbands father was in the Hitler youth.
His oldest brother was shot down in a plane over Russia.
One sister never married. She was kidnapped by gypsies and rescued two weeks later.
Everyone has stories because they were WHOLE world wars... EVERYONE has a story and usually they were terrible.
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I think when she says "conscripted" she means "compelled". As in work for the military or be executed.
I know what she means. I was conscripted, but I would not have been executed had I refused.
My husbands father was in the Hitler youth.
His oldest brother was shot down in a plane over Russia.
One sister never married. She was kidnapped by gypsies and rescued two weeks later.
Everyone has stories because they were WHOLE world wars... EVERYONE has a story and usually they were terrible.
:ohmy:
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I was in the IDF for three years. I was an infantryman. I saw combat in the Second Intifada. And I was in the Battle of Jenin. Thankfully I wasn't injured. But, it's something I will never forget.
Has anyone else served in the military. I think Odinson might have. If you have, please tell us about it.
Only one cousin of my nephew and niece (but not a blood relation to me) served in Iraq, twice... he actually married a Japanese girl after he left the Australian military. Interesting that she went back to Japan to have her baby and didn't have it in Australia.
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I was in the IDF for three years. I was an infantryman. I saw combat in the Second Intifada. And I was in the Battle of Jenin. Thankfully I wasn't injured. But, it's something I will never forget.
Has anyone else served in the military. I think Odinson might have. If you have, please tell us about it.
Only one cousin of my nephew and niece (but not a blood relation to me) served in Iraq, twice... he actually married a Japanese girl after he left the Australian military. Interesting that she went back to Japan to have her baby and didn't have it in Australia.
Australia was part of the coalition of the willing.
I miss not seeing poster heinzy in a while. He was in Germany during the war and experienced it all. We communicated much about the war via pm.
I miss him, one of the very best posters anywhere
As a child during the war he would be older ... maybe no news is not good news :sad:
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I miss not seeing poster heinzy in a while. He was in Germany during the war and experienced it all. We communicated much about the war via pm.
I miss him, one of the very best posters anywhere
As a child during the war he would be older ... maybe no news is not good news :sad:
My Mother in Law is 86... I'm not sure how much older her Austrian husband was but say if he lived he would be 88 ish now...
He was 14 when forced into the Hitler youth. All kids had to be in the Hitler Youth... for your friend to be in the miltary back in WW2 he must be over 90 now.
I remember heinzy, a very nice and wise man..
But, he's probably not around anymore.
:sad:
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All kids had to be in the Hitler Youth
Yes. And dear heinzi was also... although I had thought he had said it was at a much younger age
It's too bad Priscilla isn't more comfortable communicating in English..
She's the only person left on these forums who has experienced the horror of living under absolute tyranny..
She was very young at the time too.
I had relatives persecuted by Stalin, which is why we came to Canada. But, I do not have immediate family who served.
I´m a jäger sergeant..
Not in active service.
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I´m a jäger sergeant..
Not in active service.
I never heard of them. I looked it up though. So, you served in the World War 1 did you.
Jarhead?
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I´m a jäger sergeant..
Not in active service.
I never heard of them. I looked it up though. So, you served in the World War 1 did you.
The only thing Odinson would have served in is McDonalds.
Odinson is a slavic version of Joe.
No representation of truth of fact is intended or implied.
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I´m a jäger sergeant..
Not in active service.
I never heard of them. I looked it up though. So, you served in the World War 1 did you.
Jäger is a base unit of finnish land forces..
Like rangers are in the US army.
Jäger just specializes more in the all terrain combat and guerrilla tactics.
Americans say that if you can fight in the arctic, you can fight anywhere..
Thats in reference to us.
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Jarhead?
The fact that we are all jägers comes from the Royal prussian jägerbattalion 27..
It was a finnish unit during WW1.. And they then came back to Finland and served as the base of our new military.
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Jarhead?
The fact that we are all jägers comes from the Royal prussian jägerbattalion 27..
It was a finnish unit during WW1.. And they then came back to Finland and served as the base of our new military.
Finland lost territory to Russia I recently read.
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Jarhead?
The fact that we are all jägers comes from the Royal prussian jägerbattalion 27..
It was a finnish unit during WW1.. And they then came back to Finland and served as the base of our new military.
Finland lost territory to Russia I recently read.
Yes..
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I´m a jäger sergeant..
Not in active service.
I never heard of them. I looked it up though. So, you served in the World War 1 did you.
I'm too tired to look it up.
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I´m a jäger sergeant..
Not in active service.
I never heard of them. I looked it up though. So, you served in the World War 1 did you.
Jäger is a base unit of finnish land forces..
Like rangers are in the US army.
Jäger just specializes more in the all terrain combat and guerrilla tactics.
Americans say that if you can fight in the arctic, you can fight anywhere..
Thats in reference to us.
That's what I've expected, but are you claiming you're a member of the Finnish special force?
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I´m a jäger sergeant..
Not in active service.
I never heard of them. I looked it up though. So, you served in the World War 1 did you.
Jäger is a base unit of finnish land forces..
Like rangers are in the US army.
Jäger just specializes more in the all terrain combat and guerrilla tactics.
Americans say that if you can fight in the arctic, you can fight anywhere..
Thats in reference to us.
That's what I've expected, but are you claiming you're a member of the Finnish special force?
In world war 1. Old Odinson is in good shape for being 120 years old.
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I´m a jäger sergeant..
Not in active service.
I never heard of them. I looked it up though. So, you served in the World War 1 did you.
Jäger is a base unit of finnish land forces..
Like rangers are in the US army.
Jäger just specializes more in the all terrain combat and guerrilla tactics.
Americans say that if you can fight in the arctic, you can fight anywhere..
Thats in reference to us.
That's what I've expected, but are you claiming you're a member of the Finnish special force?
In world war 1. Old Odinson is in good shape for being 120 years old.
When I first heard the word Jager, I find it extremely odd already. :001_tongue:
I accept that Odinson has completed some compulsory military service like most Finns do.
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I´m a jäger sergeant..
Not in active service.
I never heard of them. I looked it up though. So, you served in the World War 1 did you.
Jäger is a base unit of finnish land forces..
Like rangers are in the US army.
Jäger just specializes more in the all terrain combat and guerrilla tactics.
Americans say that if you can fight in the arctic, you can fight anywhere..
Thats in reference to us.
That's what I've expected, but are you claiming you're a member of the Finnish special force?
In world war 1. Old Odinson is in good shape for being 120 years old.
When I first heard the word Jager, I find it extremely odd already. :001_tongue:
Is it so odd that finnish units dont have the same name as their canadian counterparts?
:laugh3:
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Is it so odd that finnish units dont have the same name as their canadian counterparts?
:laugh3:
I don't know of anyone here or on mmb that has served in the Canadian military.
ac_umm
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Is it so odd that finnish units dont have the same name as their canadian counterparts?
:laugh3:
I don't know of anyone here or on mmb that has served in the Canadian military.
ac_umm
They are wondering about the name "jäger"... Like our units should be called by some english name..
I´m pretty sure canadian army soldiers have the same name as they did a 100 years ago..
But I wouldnt think a canadian "ranger" today served in the WW1 just because there were rangers in that war..
ac_biggrin
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They are wondering about the name "jäger"... Like our units should be called by some english name..
I´m pretty sure canadian army soldiers have the same name as they did a 100 years ago..
But I wouldnt think a canadian "ranger" today served in the WW1 just because there were rangers in that war..
ac_biggrin
I don't even know what you Gaon, and Bricktop are talking about..
I believe you have military service even if they don't..
But, I'm trying to think of one person on these forums who has served in the Canadian army and I don't know of anyone..
All the people who have military service, were in USA, Finland, United Kingdom, Israel, and Australia.
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They are wondering about the name "jäger"... Like our units should be called by some english name..
I´m pretty sure canadian army soldiers have the same name as they did a 100 years ago..
But I wouldnt think a canadian "ranger" today served in the WW1 just because there were rangers in that war..
ac_biggrin
I don't even know what you Gaon, and Bricktop are talking about..
I believe you have military service even if they don't..
But, I'm trying to think of one person on these forums who has served in the Canadian army and I don't know of anyone..
All the people who have military service, were in USA, Finland, United Kingdom, Israel, and Australia.
Whos the UK one?
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They are wondering about the name "jäger"... Like our units should be called by some english name..
I´m pretty sure canadian army soldiers have the same name as they did a 100 years ago..
But I wouldnt think a canadian "ranger" today served in the WW1 just because there were rangers in that war..
ac_biggrin
I don't even know what you Gaon, and Bricktop are talking about..
I believe you have military service even if they don't..
But, I'm trying to think of one person on these forums who has served in the Canadian army and I don't know of anyone..
All the people who have military service, were in USA, Finland, United Kingdom, Israel, and Australia.
Whos the UK one?
IRISH KAM
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They are wondering about the name "jäger"... Like our units should be called by some english name..
I´m pretty sure canadian army soldiers have the same name as they did a 100 years ago..
But I wouldnt think a canadian "ranger" today served in the WW1 just because there were rangers in that war..
ac_biggrin
I don't even know what you Gaon, and Bricktop are talking about..
I believe you have military service even if they don't..
But, I'm trying to think of one person on these forums who has served in the Canadian army and I don't know of anyone..
All the people who have military service, were in USA, Finland, United Kingdom, Israel, and Australia.
Whos the UK one?
IRISH KAM
Lochdubh says he is been in some military.. He is canadian I believe.
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I´m a jäger sergeant..
Not in active service.
I never heard of them. I looked it up though. So, you served in the World War 1 did you.
Jäger is a base unit of finnish land forces..
Like rangers are in the US army.
Jäger just specializes more in the all terrain combat and guerrilla tactics.
Americans say that if you can fight in the arctic, you can fight anywhere..
Thats in reference to us.
That's what I've expected, but are you claiming you're a member of the Finnish special force?
In world war 1. Old Odinson is in good shape for being 120 years old.
When I first heard the word Jager, I find it extremely odd already. :001_tongue:
Is it so odd that finnish units dont have the same name as their canadian counterparts?
:laugh3:
I heard of the Jager unit before but always though they were some Scandinavian elite reconnaissance unit or at least equivalent to US marines or higher skill level.
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Quote from: "Odinson"
They are wondering about the name "jäger"... Like our units should be called by some english name..
I´m pretty sure canadian army soldiers have the same name as they did a 100 years ago..
But I wouldnt think a canadian "ranger" today served in the WW1 just because there were rangers in that war..
ac_biggrin
I don't even know what you Gaon, and Bricktop are talking about..
I believe you have military service even if they don't..
But, I'm trying to think of one person on these forums who has served in the Canadian army and I don't know of anyone..
All the people who have military service, were in USA, Finland, United Kingdom, Israel, and Australia.
Whos the UK one?
IRISH KAM
Lochdubh says he is been in some military.. He is canadian I believe.
No, he's British, but lives in the USA now..
I believe he did serve in the British military.
He was in the artillery...Fusiliers I believe.
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I´m a jäger sergeant..
Not in active service.
I never heard of them. I looked it up though. So, you served in the World War 1 did you.
The only thing Odinson would have served in is McDonalds.
Odinson is a slavic version of Joe.
No representation of truth of fact is intended or implied.
I have never served in the military but had the fortune to meet some veterans who served in World Wat II.
What was most notable about all of them is that none ever boasted about their achievements.
They were sll incredibly modest.
Actually they all seem to recount with sadness the friends or brothers who died on the battlefield.
One told me of a cousin 'who's still over there' and was shot down by Japanese anti aircraft fire over Burma.
"I saw him shot down," he told me.
But in the old vet's mind, he was still alive.
Another whose wife also served in the British Army said that he was just grateful to be alive and to have survived WWII.
And it occurred to me...everything we post war generations take for granted & the prosperity we currently enjoy, was because of them.
And yet they never got a nickel for their service during the war while we received all the benefits of their sacrifice.
For that reason, these were truly great men & women.
I appreciate that someone put their life on the line so I could have mine.
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I´m a jäger sergeant..
Not in active service.
I never heard of them. I looked it up though. So, you served in the World War 1 did you.
Jäger is a base unit of finnish land forces..
Like rangers are in the US army.
Jäger just specializes more in the all terrain combat and guerrilla tactics.
Americans say that if you can fight in the arctic, you can fight anywhere..
Thats in reference to us.
That's what I've expected, but are you claiming you're a member of the Finnish special force?
In world war 1. Old Odinson is in good shape for being 120 years old.
When I first heard the word Jager, I find it extremely odd already. :001_tongue:
Is it so odd that finnish units dont have the same name as their canadian counterparts?
:laugh3:
I heard of the Jager unit before but always though they were some Scandinavian elite reconnaissance unit or at least equivalent to US marines or higher skill level.
Well.. Reconnaissance, hit&run, sabotage, booby-traps, sneaking around, doing them harm etc. is kinda what we do..
Most of the time, when out of base, I have my face, neck and hands painted and some local plants attached to my uniform..
Of course you dont become elite until you have experience..
But overall, the training emphasizes on commando tactics more than the ranger or marine training.
The boot camp lasts min. 180 days.. Compared to the marine 91 days.
Mine lasted 365 days then I had additional 14 months of really deep introduction to various tactics and weapons.
It is required to go through additional deep core training before we get to be in an armed conflict.
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He was in the artillery...Fusiliers I believe.
I knew he had some military service.
I feel very privileged to have met veterans who served in World War II.
One of them fought on D-Day. Told me how he saw his colleagues get shot & die as they stormed the beach.
I even knew/met a World War I veteran who was a pilot flying over the trenches in France.
He told me one purpose of the planes back then was to drown out the noise down below so that the allied soldiers could perform their sneaky manouvers on the Germans.
After or now that they are gone, we will never see their likes ever agsin.
The are literally walking monuments of history
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I was in the IDF for three years. I was an infantryman. I saw combat in the Second Intifada. And I was in the Battle of Jenin. Thankfully I wasn't injured. But, it's something I will never forget.
Has anyone else served in the military. I think Odinson might have. If you have, please tell us about it.
That's amazing Gaon. Were you awarded a medal?
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I was in the IDF for three years. I was an infantryman. I saw combat in the Second Intifada. And I was in the Battle of Jenin. Thankfully I wasn't injured. But, it's something I will never forget.
Has anyone else served in the military. I think Odinson might have. If you have, please tell us about it.
That's amazing Gaon. Were you awarded a medal?
Israel isn't nearly as generous with medals as Canada and the United States. I was told every Canadian soldier who went to Afghanistan, even in a non combat role, was awarded a medal.
Never served in the military.
My father's wife's son is career military. Posts included Cyprus, Germany, Rwanda, Somalia, and Sarajevo. Blue helmet on some of those. He's a great guy, but has that haunted look in his eyes. Always.
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Never served in the military.
My father's wife's son is career military. Posts included Cyprus, Germany, Rwanda, Somalia, and Sarajevo. Blue helmet on some of those. He's a great guy, but has that haunted look in his eyes. Always.
Your step brother..
Those are some dangerous posts.
I never know what to call him. Is he my step-brother? We have no common parent.
And, yes, he's had some tough gigs. He's seen awful things.
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I never know what to call him. Is he my step-brother? We have no common parent.
Your father's step son.
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I was in the IDF for three years. I was an infantryman. I saw combat in the Second Intifada. And I was in the Battle of Jenin. Thankfully I wasn't injured. But, it's something I will never forget.
Has anyone else served in the military. I think Odinson might have. If you have, please tell us about it.
That's amazing Gaon. Were you awarded a medal?
Israel isn't nearly as generous with medals as Canada and the United States. I was told every Canadian soldier who went to Afghanistan, even in a non combat role, was awarded a medal.
They get a medal for participating..
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I was in the IDF for three years. I was an infantryman. I saw combat in the Second Intifada. And I was in the Battle of Jenin. Thankfully I wasn't injured. But, it's something I will never forget.
Has anyone else served in the military. I think Odinson might have. If you have, please tell us about it.
The Battle of Jenin was particularly bloody.
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I was in the IDF for three years. I was an infantryman. I saw combat in the Second Intifada. And I was in the Battle of Jenin. Thankfully I wasn't injured. But, it's something I will never forget.
Has anyone else served in the military. I think Odinson might have. If you have, please tell us about it.
That's amazing Gaon. Were you awarded a medal?
Israel isn't nearly as generous with medals as Canada and the United States. I was told every Canadian soldier who went to Afghanistan, even in a non combat role, was awarded a medal.
They get a medal for participating..
I was told that if Canadian soldiers went to Afghanistan, they received a medal. It didn't matter if it was combat or not.
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I was in the IDF for three years. I was an infantryman. I saw combat in the Second Intifada. And I was in the Battle of Jenin. Thankfully I wasn't injured. But, it's something I will never forget.
Has anyone else served in the military. I think Odinson might have. If you have, please tell us about it.
That's amazing Gaon. Were you awarded a medal?
Israel isn't nearly as generous with medals as Canada and the United States. I was told every Canadian soldier who went to Afghanistan, even in a non combat role, was awarded a medal.
They get a medal for participating..
I was told that if Canadian soldiers went to Afghanistan, they received a medal. It didn't matter if it was combat or not.
Of course its slightly different for canadians to come to middle-east.. It aint their war..
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I was in the IDF for three years. I was an infantryman. I saw combat in the Second Intifada. And I was in the Battle of Jenin. Thankfully I wasn't injured. But, it's something I will never forget.
Has anyone else served in the military. I think Odinson might have. If you have, please tell us about it.
That's amazing Gaon. Were you awarded a medal?
Israel isn't nearly as generous with medals as Canada and the United States. I was told every Canadian soldier who went to Afghanistan, even in a non combat role, was awarded a medal.
They get a medal for participating..
I was told that if Canadian soldiers went to Afghanistan, they received a medal. It didn't matter if it was combat or not.
Someone that works with my husband, has a brother who served in Afghanistan with the Canadian military..
I should get my husband to ask him.
I looked it up and the medal awarded for deployment to Afghanistan is called the General Campaign Star-South West Asia.
These guys seemed to have served...they even get their own armour.

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This guy, too.

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These guys seemed to have served...they even get their own armour.

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A bit excessive.
Typically North Korean. The military is the foundation of their society.
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Typically North Korean. The military is the foundation of their society.
Most if not all of those medals are for being Kim family sycophants.
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It's the allure of the gun...
Traffic cops sitting in the office taking calls...are allowed to have guns? ac_umm
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It's the allure of the gun...
Traffic cops sitting in the office taking calls...are allowed to have guns? ac_umm
Don't all traffic police have to go out and cruise around for speeders?
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It's the allure of the gun...
Traffic cops sitting in the office taking calls...are allowed to have guns? ac_umm
Don't all traffic police have to go out and cruise around for speeders?
I was thinking of the cops that direct traffic..

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It's the allure of the gun...
Traffic cops sitting in the office taking calls...are allowed to have guns? ac_umm
Don't all traffic police have to go out and cruise around for speeders?
I was thinking of the cops that direct traffic..

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That's an occasional part of their job.
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It's the allure of the gun...
Traffic cops sitting in the office taking calls...are allowed to have guns? ac_umm
Traffic cops don't sit in offices. The clue is in the name.
All operational police officers carry a firearm when on duty in public areas.
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It's the allure of the gun...
Traffic cops sitting in the office taking calls...are allowed to have guns? ac_umm
Traffic cops don't sit in offices. The clue is in the name.
All operational police officers carry a firearm when on duty in public areas.
I would think traffic police are rarely in offices.
No traffic in offices.
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Never wanted to do military service. I don't do well with orders.
I didn't have a choice.
Nor did I. Rather than take my chances with the 2-year draft, I elected to enlist for 3 years and served in Army aviation, mostly as a helicopter crew chief.
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It's the allure of the gun...
Traffic cops sitting in the office taking calls...are allowed to have guns? ac_umm
Don't all traffic police have to go out and cruise around for speeders?
They mostly sub contract that here. The lazy buggers only bother if you're really fanging it.
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It's the allure of the gun...
Traffic cops sitting in the office taking calls...are allowed to have guns? ac_umm
Cops have a responsibility when it comes to protecting others when they're on duty, or sometimes even off duty.
Cops don't have any legal obligation to protect.
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Cops don't have any legal obligation to protect.
It really depends on each country and if he have the right equiptment to take action.
Actually, and probably accidentally, Freud is technically correct.
Police officers are not legally compelled to exercise their authority. Every action taken is a matter of discretion.
Police officers cannot be co-erced by any law, or authority. The old Hollywood trope of "Arrest that man" is fiction. Not even the Commissioner of Police can order an officer to act under his legislated powers.
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No traffic in offices.
:laugh:
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Actually, and probably accidentally, Freud is technically correct.
Police officers are not legally compelled to exercise their authority. Every action taken is a matter of discretion.
Police officers cannot be co-erced by any law, or authority. The old Hollywood trope of "Arrest that man" is fiction. Not even the Commissioner of Police can order an officer to act under his legislated powers.
Tbh I'm not too familiar with police regulation or protocol outside of Canada, but all I remember is in Toronto is if there's an on or off duty officer witness some kind of crime happening and the officer has his hand gun with him, they have a task at hand to stop the suspect, though my memory could still be playing tricks on me. ac_umm
A police officer is, in effect, never off duty. His authority is active 24/7, and all powers conferred on him are effective at all times.
Whilst he has no legal responsibility, it may be argued that he has a moral responsibility to intervene when off duty, but that is not always practical, sensible or safe.
It depends on the crime, the environment and the circumstances.
Aka hypocritical and self indulgent slackers and cowards.
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A police officer is, in effect, never off duty. His authority is active 24/7, and all powers conferred on him are effective at all times.
Whilst he has no legal responsibility, it may be argued that he has a moral responsibility to intervene when off duty, but that is not always practical, sensible or safe.
It depends on the crime, the environment and the circumstances.
It's a unique job.
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I was in the IDF for three years. I was an infantryman. I saw combat in the Second Intifada. And I was in the Battle of Jenin. Thankfully I wasn't injured. But, it's something I will never forget.
Has anyone else served in the military. I think Odinson might have. If you have, please tell us about it.
That's amazing Gaon. Were you awarded a medal?
Israel isn't nearly as generous with medals as Canada and the United States. I was told every Canadian soldier who went to Afghanistan, even in a non combat role, was awarded a medal.
I can't speak to Canadian practice, but I found myself after three years of service wearing seven ribbons on my chest. Only one of them was for conspicuous performance; the others were related to where I'd been or for serving in an aviation role. The last medal I received was the Good Conduct medal, generally referred to as the "three years of undetected crime" ribbon.
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I was in the IDF for three years. I was an infantryman. I saw combat in the Second Intifada. And I was in the Battle of Jenin. Thankfully I wasn't injured. But, it's something I will never forget.
Has anyone else served in the military. I think Odinson might have. If you have, please tell us about it.
That's amazing Gaon. Were you awarded a medal?
Israel isn't nearly as generous with medals as Canada and the United States. I was told every Canadian soldier who went to Afghanistan, even in a non combat role, was awarded a medal.
I can't speak to Canadian practice, but I found myself after three years of service wearing seven ribbons on my chest. Only one of them was for conspicuous performance; the others were related to where I'd been or for serving in an aviation role. The last medal I received was the Good Conduct medal, generally referred to as the "three years of undetected crime" ribbon.
So Gaon was right about Canada and the USA being generous with medals.
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So Gaon was right about Canada and the USA being generous with medals.
Evidently so. I'm agreeing with him about US practice and I don't see any Canadians arguing with him.
They all are. Even Police Departments do it.
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They all are. Even Police Departments do it.
I think even fire departments hand out a lot of medals.
My name was spelled wrong in the army newsletter when they published the decorated soldiers list..
I heard about it for the rest of my service.
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My name was spelled wrong in the army newsletter when they published the decorated soldiers list..
I heard about it for the rest of my service.
What were you decorated for?
Christmas?
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Christmas?
That's it.
:laugh:
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My name was spelled wrong in the army newsletter when they published the decorated soldiers list..
I heard about it for the rest of my service.
What were you decorated for?
It was for distinguished service.
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My name was spelled wrong in the army newsletter when they published the decorated soldiers list..
I heard about it for the rest of my service.
What were you decorated for?
It was for distinguished service.
Not for the month of December.....just kidding Odi, good for you.
:smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
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My name was spelled wrong in the army newsletter when they published the decorated soldiers list..
I heard about it for the rest of my service.
What were you decorated for?
It was for distinguished service.
Not for the month of December.....just kidding Odi, good for you.
:smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
Just means that I´m the worst kiss-ass of the brigade.
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It's the allure of the gun...
Traffic cops sitting in the office taking calls...are allowed to have guns? ac_umm
Traffic cops don't sit in offices. The clue is in the name.
All operational police officers carry a firearm when on duty in public areas.
I would think traffic police are rarely in offices.
Traffic police can be in the office.
Never assume without knowing all the details.
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Never wanted to do military service. I don't do well with orders.
I didn't have a choice.
Nor did I. Rather than take my chances with the 2-year draft, I elected to enlist for 3 years and served in Army aviation, mostly as a helicopter crew chief.
...huhwell there ya go...always thought you were a yank.
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It's the allure of the gun...
Traffic cops sitting in the office taking calls...are allowed to have guns? ac_umm
Traffic cops don't sit in offices. The clue is in the name.
All operational police officers carry a firearm when on duty in public areas.
I would think traffic police are rarely in offices.
Traffic police can be in the office.
Never assume without knowing all the details.
30 years in the Police Force.
I think I know the details.
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It's the allure of the gun...
Traffic cops sitting in the office taking calls...are allowed to have guns? ac_umm
Traffic cops don't sit in offices. The clue is in the name.
All operational police officers carry a firearm when on duty in public areas.
I would think traffic police are rarely in offices.
Traffic police can be in the office.
Never assume without knowing all the details.
30 years in the Police Force.
I think I know the details.
So?
When did you retire...times have changed.
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Never wanted to do military service. I don't do well with orders.
I didn't have a choice.
Nor did I. Rather than take my chances with the 2-year draft, I elected to enlist for 3 years and served in Army aviation, mostly as a helicopter crew chief.
...huhwell there ya go...always thought you were a yank.
Indeed, I am a Yank. The US doesn't have compulsory service now, but it used to.
I served in the Military in my dreams. When I was actively exploring how I can join, I was too late. I was too old.
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I served in the Military in my dreams. When I was actively exploring how I can join, I was too late. I was too old.
What's the cut off age Azhya?
Mid-40s I think.
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Mid-40s I think.
A person can the army up to their mid forties?
ac_wot
At that time when I inquired, that is what I was told.
You know why most women want to join the military..
There are a lot of lonely men in there..
Females are scarce.. You get to be the queen.
That was not my motivation.
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That was not my motivation.
Why did you want to join the military?
I took a personality test years ago that revealed that the military was a good place for me to be based on my interests. Being in the military does not mean you will only be sent to the front lines. Not at all. You could be in the IT section, you could be in administration, etcetera.
I wanted to be part of the service or agency whose sole focus is the development of security, defense, and advanced technologies. This is why I wanted to work for Lockheed Martin or Northrup Grumman but instead I found an opportunity in another part of the government.
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It's the allure of the gun...
Traffic cops sitting in the office taking calls...are allowed to have guns? ac_umm
Traffic cops don't sit in offices. The clue is in the name.
All operational police officers carry a firearm when on duty in public areas.
I would think traffic police are rarely in offices.
Traffic police can be in the office.
Never assume without knowing all the details.
30 years in the Police Force.
I think I know the details.
So?
When did you retire...times have changed.
When did you serve in the Police Force to know what has changed and what stays the same?
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At that time when I inquired, that is what I was told.
I thought the cut off for joining the military would have been about twenty six.
I am telling you what I know.
Even 40 year olds can kill people!!!
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I am telling you what I know.
I believe you Azhya, I'm just surprised.
Sigh. I am not an encyclopedia but this is what the internet has:
"The maximum age for Army enlisted recruits is 35, while the Navy and Marines cap recruit ages at 34 and 28, respectively. Under federal law, the oldest recruit any military branch can enlist is 42, although each service sets its own policy within that limit.Jun 25, 2014"
In Israel, the age limit is unofficially 35. Every man under the age of 25 is drafted for 3 years service and reserve duty later. Between the age of 25 and 35, a man is required for minimal draft service and reserve duty afterwards.
I doubt I'd get a job in any army.
Here's me at my final posting...

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I doubt I'd get a job in any army.
Here's me at my final posting...

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With that musket, I could hit a barrel from 10 yards.
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I doubt I'd get a job in any army.
Here's me at my final posting...

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I can relate. ac_toofunny
Re the musket...I've done a little black powder shooting. Smoothbore, .69 cal with that much barrel, offhand, you're good for a one gallon milk jug at 50 yards if the sights are any good.
The rifle's sights may be perfectly aligned.
Mine are not.
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I wanted to be part of the service or agency whose sole focus is the development of security, defense, and advanced technologies. This is why I wanted to work for Lockheed Martin or Northrup Grumman but instead I found an opportunity in another part of the government.
You would be a civilian working for the army.
The army can make you go insane if you dont get to be in real action..
Its always the same old shit from one day to the next.
And workplaces like the army, prison or the policeforce attract a lot of assholes with small dicks.
That seems like a valid theory.
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I wanted to be part of the service or agency whose sole focus is the development of security, defense, and advanced technologies. This is why I wanted to work for Lockheed Martin or Northrup Grumman but instead I found an opportunity in another part of the government.
You would be a civilian working for the army.
I heard they are very good companies to work for.
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I wanted to be part of the service or agency whose sole focus is the development of security, defense, and advanced technologies. This is why I wanted to work for Lockheed Martin or Northrup Grumman but instead I found an opportunity in another part of the government.
You would be a civilian working for the army.
I heard they are very good companies to work for.
Yeah they probably are..
Big salaries and big respect.
"I´m working for Lockheed"..
And the people kneel down in respect. ac_biggrin
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That seems like a valid theory.
Firsthand experience..
Pettiness, abuse that is not related to the training..
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With that musket, I could hit a barrel from 10 yards.
Your unit should requisition the new Baker rifles..
Reliable range 200 yards... I shit you not.
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With that musket, I could hit a barrel from 10 yards.
Your unit should requisition the new Baker rifles..
Reliable range 200 yards... I shit you not.
Is that range above average compared to other rifles?
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With that musket, I could hit a barrel from 10 yards.
Your unit should requisition the new Baker rifles..
Reliable range 200 yards... I shit you not.
Is that range above average compared to other rifles?
Average... 200 years ago.
Baker rifles havent been in use since Victoria was crowned the Queen. ac_biggrin
They were better than the british standard issue muskets..
Isn't this a beauty? Introducing the Joint Light Tactical Vehicle (JLTV). The US Army is trying out some improved wheels!

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With that musket, I could hit a barrel from 10 yards.
Your unit should requisition the new Baker rifles..
Reliable range 200 yards... I shit you not.
Is that range above average compared to other rifles?
Average... 200 years ago.
Baker rifles havent been in use since Victoria was crowned the Queen. ac_biggrin
They were better than the british standard issue muskets..
Oh
ac_blush
One of the ladies in my circle only like military guys. Her first husband was in the military. Then they divorced. Since then, she dated only military guys. Her second husband now is also military.
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One of the ladies in my circle only like military guys. Her first husband was in the military. Then they divorced. Since then, she dated only military guys. Her second husband now is also military.
There are some women who like a man in uniform.
I was mistaken. I had this idea that Canadian military was on a par with the USA military might. I just realized that it isn't. Canadian military is only a fraction of the American military. Yikes. What happens if Canada and USA break ties and a country that has a powerful military want to attack Canada? I guess Canada is toast when that happens.
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I was mistaken. I had this idea that Canadian military was on a par with the USA military might. I just realized that it isn't. Canadian military is only a fraction of the American military. Yikes. What happens if Canada and USA break ties and a country that has a powerful military want to attack Canada? I guess Canada is toast when that happens.
Canadian military is outgunned, outmanned and technologically inferior..
USA has the biggest navy and the biggest airforce... And the equiptment are all state-of-the-art..
The 2nd biggest airforce on the planet is the US naval airforce.
If we use China as an example..
China has only 1 aircraft carrier and it is an old soviet diesel rust-bucket..
USA has 10+ Nimitz-class nuclear-powered supercarriers... And thats only the supercarriers..
They have other carriers as well.
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One of the ladies in my circle only like military guys. Her first husband was in the military. Then they divorced. Since then, she dated only military guys. Her second husband now is also military.
There are some women who like a man in uniform.
And by some you mean all of them..
Women like warriors.
Be that a soldier, a biker or a ghetto gangbanger.
Not I. I steer clear. The only warriors I like are my ice warriors. My hockey team.
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Not I. I steer clear. The only warriors I like are my ice warriors. My hockey team.
Athletes are kinda like warriors but their actions dont need a "viewer discretion is advised" sign..
Ice hockey players, NFL players, boxers, UFC fighters all defeat their enemies in combat..
They all get a lot of ladies..
Curling players dont get any ladies... Even though they have money..
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Not I. I steer clear. The only warriors I like are my ice warriors. My hockey team.
Athletes are kinda like warriors but their actions dont need a "viewer discretion is advised" sign..
Ice hockey players, NFL players, boxers, UFC fighters all defeat their enemies in combat..
They all get a lot of ladies..
Curling players dont get any ladies... Even though they have money..
They do?
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Not I. I steer clear. The only warriors I like are my ice warriors. My hockey team.
Athletes are kinda like warriors but their actions dont need a "viewer discretion is advised" sign..
Ice hockey players, NFL players, boxers, UFC fighters all defeat their enemies in combat..
They all get a lot of ladies..
Curling players dont get any ladies... Even though they have money..
They do?
Its a gentlemans sport...
You do it out of love for the game, not the paycheck..
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I was mistaken. I had this idea that Canadian military was on a par with the USA military might. I just realized that it isn't. Canadian military is only a fraction of the American military. Yikes. What happens if Canada and USA break ties and a country that has a powerful military want to attack Canada? I guess Canada is toast when that happens.
Canadian military is outgunned, outmanned and technologically inferior..
USA has the biggest navy and the biggest airforce... And the equiptment are all state-of-the-art..
The 2nd biggest airforce on the planet is the US naval airforce.
If we use China as an example..
China has only 1 aircraft carrier and it is an old soviet diesel rust-bucket..
USA has 10+ Nimitz-class nuclear-powered supercarriers... And thats only the supercarriers..
They have other carriers as well.
Not seeking to dispute this in general, but I do recall seeing a couple of years ago the list of the Top Ten military snipers of recent history, and I was surprised to see how well Canada was represented on that list.
When I looked into it, it became quite clear that Canadian snipers are as well trained, and actually better equipped, than Yank snipers. It's true that at least one of their sniper weapons is US made, but the US military has not bought it.
Canadians like to hunt.
Perhaps that explains it.
By the way, I call bullshit on the current record... JTF-2 sniper (name withheld) May 2017 3,540 m. You cannot SEE a target at that distance. Either it was a fluke shot, or the method of measurement was incorrect.
It takes 10 seconds for the bullet to travel that far. That means the target was perfectly stationery for that period of time.

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I was mistaken. I had this idea that Canadian military was on a par with the USA military might. I just realized that it isn't. Canadian military is only a fraction of the American military. Yikes. What happens if Canada and USA break ties and a country that has a powerful military want to attack Canada? I guess Canada is toast when that happens.
Canadian military is outgunned, outmanned and technologically inferior..
USA has the biggest navy and the biggest airforce... And the equiptment are all state-of-the-art..
The 2nd biggest airforce on the planet is the US naval airforce.
If we use China as an example..
China has only 1 aircraft carrier and it is an old soviet diesel rust-bucket..
USA has 10+ Nimitz-class nuclear-powered supercarriers... And thats only the supercarriers..
They have other carriers as well.
Not seeking to dispute this in general, but I do recall seeing a couple of years ago the list of the Top Ten military snipers of recent history, and I was surprised to see how well Canada was represented on that list.
When I looked into it, it became quite clear that Canadian snipers are as well trained, and actually better equipped, than Yank snipers. It's true that at least one of their sniper weapons is US made, but the US military has not bought it.
Considering the size of their military, they are well funded.
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Canadians like to hunt.
Perhaps that explains it.
By the way, I call bullshit on the current record... JTF-2 sniper (name withheld) May 2017 3,540 m. You cannot SEE a target at that distance. Either it was a fluke shot, or the method of measurement was incorrect.
It takes 10 seconds for the bullet to travel that far. That means the target was perfectly stationery for that period of time.

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These are interesting records, but do they really matter?
A third world country could have good marksmen, but be poorly equipped for modern warfare.
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Canadians like to hunt.
Perhaps that explains it.
By the way, I call bullshit on the current record... JTF-2 sniper (name withheld) May 2017 3,540 m. You cannot SEE a target at that distance. Either it was a fluke shot, or the method of measurement was incorrect.
It takes 10 seconds for the bullet to travel that far. That means the target was perfectly stationery for that period of time.

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These are interesting records, but do they really matter?
A third world country could have good marksmen, but be poorly equipped for modern warfare.
Snipers are a terror weapon..
Those ISIS leaders are never safe and they know it..
They´ll slowly descend to insanity.
Some guys are just born with the gift..
But the army still makes you better.. They have tech for honing your skills.
3rd world snipers are not as good even if they are the best they have to offer.
Who cares about ISIS. Defeat it and something will replace it.
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Who cares about ISIS. Defeat it and something will replace it.
Whack-a-mole
It is whack-a-mole since nothing solid is established after the strike.
I dont think the west wants these countries to stabilize..
America doesnt want to run out of enemies... That 800 billion dollar defense budget would go to waste.
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It is whack-a-mole since nothing solid is established after the strike.
I dont think the west wants these countries to stabilize..
America doesnt want to run out of enemies... That 800 billion dollar defense budget would go to waste.
That's a whole different discussion that may be valid.
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It is whack-a-mole since nothing solid is established after the strike.
It is whack-a-mole. islam is designed to prevail, and it will. It is designed to survive and grow by shifting to situations of less resistance.
In essense there is little if any difference between killing organizations. As one is slowed down, another starts up or membership shifts to one that is more effective ... all following what is best for islam in the overall
islam is made to run on MANY self-selected "effort & risk determine reward" roles ... from simply having babies, to a higher level of reward by being a "settler" in a not islamic land, to a mentor promoting it, along with many other islam prevailing roles ... an always functioning system that rarely gets mentioned outside of islam itself, but is the KEY to how it works.
It's core scriptures promote and greatly reward those who will choose the warrior role, guarantying a constant supply of those willing to kill for islam's advancement against all non believers .. The way its set up, its jihadis will always be available and will go to where the action is and where the chances of success are greatest
Which is why there is no such thing as an innocent muslim.
They all feed the faith that nurtures vile acts of terror and violence, subjugates women, abuses children and despises white people.
Valid points. Most people have no clue how islam controls all believers
Can I suggest "despises all non believers" instead of "despises white people"
It's "roles" and also "numbers" ... as numbers become stronger, roles become stronger, personal positions become stronger ... literally everything in everyone in the game changes
There would be less civilian casualties if the muslim fighters werent hiding in the crowds..
And just putting their defense positions inside cities without even trying to evacuate the civilians.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz9MXytE00A&bpctr=1549821184
Even in that anti-american video you can see the truth..
The iraqi commanders are held up inside a hospital... Because thats the place you pick when you wanna use human shields.
That road of death thing.. There are tanks, cannons, anti-aircraft weapons amongst the civilians.. And undoubtedly they were shooting at the americans..
The americans dont just kill civilians because its fun... Maybe some of them do but not the fighter pilots..
If there are civilian casualties, you just know that the muslim soldiers were hiding among them..
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Who cares about ISIS. Defeat it and something will replace it.
From this point forward, the thread has taken quite a turn. :8brw3y9:
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Which is why there is no such thing as an innocent muslim.
They all feed the faith that nurtures vile acts of terror and violence, subjugates women, abuses children and despises white people.
Islam epitomizes backwardness. I got to see all of what you wrote up close and personal when I was in the army.
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Which is why there is no such thing as an innocent muslim.
They all feed the faith that nurtures vile acts of terror and violence, subjugates women, abuses children and despises white people.
Islam epitomizes backwardness. I got to see all of what you wrote up close and personal when I was in the army.
Islam does seem quite reactionary in most parts of the world. I just read today of a recent attack in Afghanistan, where Islamists shot up a vaccination station operated by the US. Evidently the imams don't think vaccines are helpful.
(Possibly, another factor is that US spooks used doctors and vaccinations as cover in Pakistan when trying to ferret out bin Laden.)
Where is Islam NOT "reactionary"?
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Where is Islam NOT "reactionary"?
Sufi orders, and some other sects. In the US, the majority of Sunnis are progressive and liberal whereas the majority of Shiites are hardliners. In other parts of the world, the reverse is more likely to be true.
One of the big differences between Islam and (say) mainstream Christianity is that Christians have seminaries and other means of "quality control" in choosing leaders. In Islam, every order has a sheikh who hand-picks his successor, and "quality" is iffy by any metric I can think of.
I wasn't clear.
Where is there a non-reactionary Islamic government and State?
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I wasn't clear.
Where is there a non-reactionary Islamic government and State?
That's quite an expansion of the topic. I don't know of any, but no people in their right minds would permit a government of theocrats. We're having a bit of trouble with this issue here in the States as I type.
How so?
Who are these theocrats?
Sufis are very few in number, insignificant and have no power over the other brands thus are not a factor in anything
Although I'll conceed that it was a sufi who tried a show of power near the site of 911 with a Victory Mosque
The US has the lowest % of all brands of any Western country, and impact in all manners is all a factor of numbers
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How so?
Who are these theocrats?
Surely you've heard of the large numbers of "evangelical christians" who've thrown Jesus under the bus in order to swear fealty to the God Emperor Trump.
Hell, one of them is the vice president.
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How so?
Who are these theocrats?
Surely you've heard of the large numbers of "evangelical christians" who've thrown Jesus under the bus in order to swear fealty to the God Emperor Trump.
Hell, one of them is the vice president.
Why in the world would they vote for Clinton. Why would any blue collar white American vote Democrat.
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How so?
Who are these theocrats?
Surely you've heard of the large numbers of "evangelical christians" who've thrown Jesus under the bus in order to swear fealty to the God Emperor Trump.
Hell, one of them is the vice president.
Nope.
I knew Pence was a bible basher, but no others.
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I wasn't clear.
Where is there a non-reactionary Islamic government and State?
That's quite an expansion of the topic. I don't know of any, but no people in their right minds would permit a government of theocrats. We're having a bit of trouble with this issue here in the States as I type.
No, America is not. The religious right's power is waning in your country is waning. It's the opposite in Israel and throughout the ME.
I dont get why american military turns a blind eye to all the rapes committed by american soldiers..
I mean, they are raping americans..
Even in the Wehrmacht, rape was punishable by death or transfer to the punishment battalion.. Which was often worse than death.
Rape and looting is right up there with the capital offenses... Caused by a severe lack of military discipline.
Its some kind of real disease among american soldiers.
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I dont get why american military turns a blind eye to all the rapes committed by american soldiers..
I mean, they are raping americans..
Even in the Wehrmacht, rape was punishable by death or transfer to the punishment battalion.. Which was often worse than death.
Rape and looting is right up there with the capital offenses... Caused by a severe lack of military discipline.
Its some kind of real disease among american soldiers.
What makes you think there are a lot of rapes in the American military.
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I dont get why american military turns a blind eye to all the rapes committed by american soldiers..
I mean, they are raping americans..
Even in the Wehrmacht, rape was punishable by death or transfer to the punishment battalion.. Which was often worse than death.
Rape and looting is right up there with the capital offenses... Caused by a severe lack of military discipline.
Its some kind of real disease among american soldiers.
What makes you think there are a lot of rapes in the American military.
Renee..
And I googled it.
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I dont get why american military turns a blind eye to all the rapes committed by american soldiers..
I mean, they are raping americans..
Even in the Wehrmacht, rape was punishable by death or transfer to the punishment battalion.. Which was often worse than death.
Rape and looting is right up there with the capital offenses... Caused by a severe lack of military discipline.
Its some kind of real disease among american soldiers.
What makes you think there are a lot of rapes in the American military.
Renee..
And I googled it.
How much is a lot?
Ten? Fifteen?
When it happens, there needs to serious consequences, but I find it hard to believe a lot of female soldiers have been raped.
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I dont get why american military turns a blind eye to all the rapes committed by american soldiers..
I mean, they are raping americans..
Even in the Wehrmacht, rape was punishable by death or transfer to the punishment battalion.. Which was often worse than death.
Rape and looting is right up there with the capital offenses... Caused by a severe lack of military discipline.
Its some kind of real disease among american soldiers.
What makes you think there are a lot of rapes in the American military.
Renee..
And I googled it.
How much is a lot?
Ten? Fifteen?
When it happens, there needs to serious consequences, but I find it hard to believe a lot of female soldiers have been raped.
32% of the service women claim to have been sexually assaulted.. As in forced to have sex.. That is A LOT..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_assault_in_the_United_States_military
Whenever there is a US military garrison in the city, they bring with them some kind of a rape-wave.
They rape fellow female soldiers and american civilian females.
Renee showed some links to hundreds of rape-cases just around one garrison.
There has been a rise in the number of rapes reported by IDF soldiers.
40 CASES OF RAPE REPORTED IN THE IDF, SIGNIFYING RISE IN COMPLAINTS
A senior IDF officer said there is no increase in cases but an increase of reporting.
https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/40-cases-of-rape-reported-in-the-IDF-signifying-rise-in-complaints-561765
And the consequences for sexual assault of a fellow soldier in Israel.
IDF soldier who raped female comrade gets 5.5 years in jail
Jaffa Military Court also orders serviceman to compensate his victim, whom he sexually assaulted in her Tel Aviv home
https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-soldier-who-raped-female-comrade-gets-5-5-years-in-jail/
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Renee showed some links to hundreds of rape-cases just around one garrison.
She wouldn't have been one of the victims.
Even drunk grunts have standards.
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Renee showed some links to hundreds of rape-cases just around one garrison.
She wouldn't have been one of the victims.
Even drunk grunts have standards.
Totally uncalled for, especially in view of your knowing she's a better shot than you.
Grunts arent that picky..
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Renee showed some links to hundreds of rape-cases just around one garrison.
She wouldn't have been one of the victims.
Even drunk grunts have standards.
Totally uncalled for, especially in view of your knowing she's a better shot than you.
Really?
I guess all my weapons training in an anti terrorist unit was a waste then.
Tell Renee I said hi and I miss her. Which is no easy thing to do.
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Renee showed some links to hundreds of rape-cases just around one garrison.
She wouldn't have been one of the victims.
Even drunk grunts have standards.
Totally uncalled for, especially in view of your knowing she's a better shot than you.
Really?
I guess all my weapons training in an anti terrorist unit was a waste then.
Tell Renee I said hi and I miss her. Which is no easy thing to do.
She might be a pretty good shot... At the range..
She has never been in a real situation..
Small women like her are scared of their own shadows. ac_biggrin
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Renee showed some links to hundreds of rape-cases just around one garrison.
She wouldn't have been one of the victims.
Even drunk grunts have standards.
Totally uncalled for, especially in view of your knowing she's a better shot than you.
Really?
I guess all my weapons training in an anti terrorist unit was a waste then.
Tell Renee I said hi and I miss her. Which is no easy thing to do.
She might be a pretty good shot... At the range..
She has never been in a real situation..
Small women like her are scared of their own shadows. ac_biggrin
Dudes, when I say she's probably a better shot I'm speaking of the range, and especially of "practical pistol" comp events. I'm not imagining that she and Brick are gonna go medieval on each other.
But I've discussed those matters with her at length and I appreciate how seriously she takes her gear and how it meets her specific needs and preferences. And I'd bet she's probably logged more range time than all three of us put together.
I have nothing but respect for Renee. Exceptionally intelligent, and she knows her firearms better than the manufacturers.
She possesses male level intellect..
Thats why she is so funny.
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She possesses male level intellect..
Thats why she is so funny.
There are not many men on these forums as intelligent as she is.
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She possesses male level intellect..
Thats why she is so funny.
She is a sexist, anti-male, confrontational, duplicitous pig.
And I have the PM's to prove it.
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She possesses male level intellect..
Thats why she is so funny.
There are not many men on these forums as intelligent as she is.
She wasn't the brightest bulb in the shed but she could hold her own
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She possesses male level intellect..
Thats why she is so funny.
She is a sexist, anti-male, confrontational, duplicitous pig.
And I have the PM's to prove it.
She is...
And what I´ve talked with her, I can see why she would be anti-male.
But she really isnt "anti-male".... She loves us. ac_biggrin
As opposed to your typical feminist, she has a stable father..
Yet she is as stable as the Fukushima power plant.
She has no reason to be anti-male. Any ill fortune she has suffered is on her. No-one else.
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Yet she is as stable as the Fukushima power plant.
She has no reason to be anti-male. Any ill fortune she has suffered is on her. No-one else.
Aint that an italian woman thing?
If your wife basically sleeps with every guy she comes in contact with, wouldnt you be blaming it on all women?
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She possesses male level intellect..
Thats why she is so funny.
There are not many men on these forums as intelligent as she is.
She wasn't the brightest bulb in the shed but she could hold her own
I totally disagree.
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She possesses male level intellect..
Thats why she is so funny.
There are not many men on these forums as intelligent as she is.
She wasn't the brightest bulb in the shed but she could hold her own
I totally disagree.
Yeah, she often couldn't hold her own on occasions and would devolve into a hot screaming mess.
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She possesses male level intellect..
Thats why she is so funny.
There are not many men on these forums as intelligent as she is.
She wasn't the brightest bulb in the shed but she could hold her own
I totally disagree.
Yeah, she often couldn't hold her own on occasions and would devolve into a hot screaming mess.
That's an opinion that I don't share.
Oddly, I concur with the fraud.
She could dish it out, but she couldn't take it.
Remember her death threat to me? Wishing I was dead? For bantering on a forum?
That was NOT said in jest.
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Oddly, I concur with the fraud.
She could dish it out, but she couldn't take it.
Remember her death threat to me? Wishing I was dead? For bantering on a forum?
That was NOT said in jest.
Nope. I don't remember that. What was the name of the thread the threat against you was in?
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Oddly, I concur with the fraud.
Nice to see you and Dinky in agreement about something, but in this case I suspect it's one of those core value things like patriarchy.
Pretty sure I'm already on record as being a Renee fan not likely to change his mind.
In a sense, we should be paying tribute to the US military seen as how we dont bother to spend money in our defense anymore..
Think about it..
Countries like China would be constantly harassing our trade-lines and doing whatever they please if it wasnt for the yankee navy..
And none of the big european countries has the ordnance to do anything about an invasion..
The goddamn persians could invade europe.
Either pay the americans protection money or raise european militaries to their former glory.
I read that Canada is spending less on defense this year.
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I read that Canada is spending less on defense this year.
Of course..
Canada is safe under the Aunt Sam´s skirt..
The truth is that some1 has to police the world and currently USA is doing it.
We dont have to respond to foreign threats because America is doing it for us.
Other western nations dont have the military capability to respond in force.
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Oddly, I concur with the fraud.
Nice to see you and Dinky in agreement about something, but in this case I suspect it's one of those core value things like patriarchy.
Pretty sure I'm already on record as being a Renee fan not likely to change his mind.
Oh, we agree on some things from time to time but ultimately he's pro State and I find that contemptible.
I didn't mind Renee to be honest and I did have to chuckle to myself on a number of occasions how adept she was at winding Brick up but as a whole I found her to be a yankee to a fault. Loudmouthed, arrogant, in some cases extremely ignorant, and emotionally unbalanced.
She was no dummy. However, the hype didn't measure up to her strut.
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I read that Canada is spending less on defense this year.
Of course..
Canada is safe under the Aunt Sam´s skirt..
The truth is that some1 has to police the world and currently USA is doing it.
We dont have to respond to foreign threats because America is doing it for us.
Other western nations dont have the military capability to respond in force.
Donald Trump wants us spending two per cent of our GDP on defense..
We'e spending less this year than last year.
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how adept she was at winding Brick up.
Odd.
I do not recall wishing she was dead...as she did me.
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how adept she was at winding Brick up.
Odd.
I do not recall wishing she was dead...as she did me.
Post the link to that.
You want me to rummage through her bullshit just to link to a post where she said she wished I was dead???
Can't you just take my word for it, ffs???