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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: Frood on January 22, 2019, 08:58:45 AM

Title: Rock band holding out in a wave of anti rock
Post by: Frood on January 22, 2019, 08:58:45 AM
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxKHVMqMZqUTgHYRSXfZN_JjItBzVTCau



God bless them.
Title: Re: Rock band holding out in a wave of anti rock
Post by: Bricktop on January 22, 2019, 04:41:58 PM
Prog rock shall never die.
Title: Re: Rock band holding out in a wave of anti rock
Post by: Anonymous on January 22, 2019, 05:06:23 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Prog rock shall never die.

Can you give an example of prog rock?
Title: Re: Rock band holding out in a wave of anti rock
Post by: Bricktop on January 22, 2019, 05:31:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WDkdZ6QvXY



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zuEfmmCA5s



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvCmtHDDuu0
Title: Re: Rock band holding out in a wave of anti rock
Post by: Anonymous on January 22, 2019, 05:35:09 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WDkdZ6QvXY



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zuEfmmCA5s



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvCmtHDDuu0

Another term for classic rock.
Title: Re: Rock band holding out in a wave of anti rock
Post by: Bricktop on January 22, 2019, 05:40:09 PM
No.



Classic Rock is



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQmmM_qwG4k



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt51rITH3EA



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9GcoCV31gc
Title: Re: Rock band holding out in a wave of anti rock
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2019, 01:15:44 AM
What's the difference?
Title: Re: Rock band holding out in a wave of anti rock
Post by: Bricktop on January 23, 2019, 02:35:46 AM
Prog rock has a more sweeping, textured and symphonic sound, often featuring a lot of synths and keyboards with a lot of changed tempos, pitches and chords.



Classic rock has a simpler chord structure, with traditional verse and chorus.
Title: Re: Rock band holding out in a wave of anti rock
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2019, 09:17:47 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Prog rock has a more sweeping, textured and symphonic sound, often featuring a lot of synths and keyboards with a lot of changed tempos, pitches and chords.



Classic rock has a simpler chord structure, with traditional verse and chorus.

Is Rush classic rock or prog rock?
Title: Re: Rock band holding out in a wave of anti rock
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2019, 01:11:02 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"What's the difference?


Inasmuch as progressive rock was a creature of the late sixties, the "prog" label is a bit outdated for my taste.  Alternative labels such as art rock, symphonic rock, and even classic rock are probably preferable although I personally think classic rock is an overly broad category that also includes rock from the fifties and early sixties that doesn't fit better in other categories like rockabilly, doo-wop, etc.
Title: Re: Rock band holding out in a wave of anti rock
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2019, 01:47:22 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "Fashionista"What's the difference?


Inasmuch as progressive rock was a creature of the late sixties, the "prog" label is a bit outdated for my taste.  Alternative labels such as art rock, symphonic rock, and even classic rock are probably preferable although I personally think classic rock is an overly broad category that also includes rock from the fifties and early sixties that doesn't fit better in other categories like rockabilly, doo-wop, etc.

I'm lost Peaches..



How would you classify Rush?
Title: Re: Rock band holding out in a wave of anti rock
Post by: Bricktop on January 23, 2019, 05:03:46 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Bricktop"Prog rock has a more sweeping, textured and symphonic sound, often featuring a lot of synths and keyboards with a lot of changed tempos, pitches and chords.



Classic rock has a simpler chord structure, with traditional verse and chorus.

Is Rush classic rock or prog rock?


Prog.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va9h4uDYmXQ



Note the chord and tempo changes, heavy instrumentation, synth intro, and a more flowing and complex song structure than chorus - verse - chorus with a bridge.
Title: Re: Rock band holding out in a wave of anti rock
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2019, 06:10:50 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Bricktop"Prog rock has a more sweeping, textured and symphonic sound, often featuring a lot of synths and keyboards with a lot of changed tempos, pitches and chords.



Classic rock has a simpler chord structure, with traditional verse and chorus.

Is Rush classic rock or prog rock?


Prog.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va9h4uDYmXQ



Note the chord and tempo changes, heavy instrumentation, synth intro, and a more flowing and complex song structure than chorus - verse - chorus with a bridge.

That's what I thought, but radio stations also  put them in the classic rock category.
Title: Re: Rock band holding out in a wave of anti rock
Post by: Bricktop on January 23, 2019, 06:34:57 PM
Categorising music is always a matter of subjectivity in the ears of the listener.



And classic rock is rather all encompassing, as prog rock is often regarded as classic.



Many bands cross between prog and straight rock...on the same album sometimes. Rush often does that. As does David Bowie.
Title: Re: Rock band holding out in a wave of anti rock
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2019, 06:36:09 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "Fashionista"What's the difference?


Inasmuch as progressive rock was a creature of the late sixties, the "prog" label is a bit outdated for my taste.  Alternative labels such as art rock, symphonic rock, and even classic rock are probably preferable although I personally think classic rock is an overly broad category that also includes rock from the fifties and early sixties that doesn't fit better in other categories like rockabilly, doo-wop, etc.

I'm lost Peaches..



How would you classify Rush?


It's complicated, but only a little.  I respect all three of them but have never been much of a fan of the band.  In the beginning they were rockers with a blues feel.  From the mid seventies til around 1990 they were more art rock, morphing in the mid eighties to symphonic rock.  After 1990 they simplified to a more organic hard rock sound, which lasted until their disbandment a year or two ago.
Title: Re: Rock band holding out in a wave of anti rock
Post by: Berry Sweet on January 23, 2019, 06:46:04 PM
They need to bring better music back.  Enough with the mumble no talent rap.  The younger generation thinks it's amazing cause it's all they know.



Need more bands and alternative....some actual lyrics and singing...I was in a funky mood yesterday listening to this:



https://youtu.be/AltMeuPkWRs
Title: Re: Rock band holding out in a wave of anti rock
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2019, 07:09:06 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Bricktop"Prog rock has a more sweeping, textured and symphonic sound, often featuring a lot of synths and keyboards with a lot of changed tempos, pitches and chords.



Classic rock has a simpler chord structure, with traditional verse and chorus.

Is Rush classic rock or prog rock?


Prog.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va9h4uDYmXQ



Note the chord and tempo changes, heavy instrumentation, synth intro, and a more flowing and complex song structure than chorus - verse - chorus with a bridge.

Wicked tune.
Title: Re: Rock band holding out in a wave of anti rock
Post by: Bricktop on January 23, 2019, 07:24:44 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "Fashionista"What's the difference?


Inasmuch as progressive rock was a creature of the late sixties, the "prog" label is a bit outdated for my taste.  Alternative labels such as art rock, symphonic rock, and even classic rock are probably preferable although I personally think classic rock is an overly broad category that also includes rock from the fifties and early sixties that doesn't fit better in other categories like rockabilly, doo-wop, etc.

I'm lost Peaches..



How would you classify Rush?


It's complicated, but only a little.  I respect all three of them but have never been much of a fan of the band.  In the beginning they were rockers with a blues feel.  From the mid seventies til around 1990 they were more art rock, morphing in the mid eighties to symphonic rock.  After 1990 they simplified to a more organic hard rock sound, which lasted until their disbandment a year or two ago.


Led Zeppelin may be regarded as many as one of the classic hard rock bands, and they're probably right.



But "Stairway to Heaven" and "Kashmir" lean more to prog.



Jethro Tull, a fairly atypical rock band recorded what is regarded as one of prog rocks finest hours, with "Thick As A Brick".



They then won some music award for Best Heavy Metal Album. Ahead, I think, of Metallica.



Black Sabbath were the genesis of hard rock/heavy metal...yet many fans hated this tune



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvrOzYtnLMA



because they believed Sabbath had turned soft.



During the Golden Age, bands would go out of their way to create music that defied categorisation, thus creating new categories.
Title: Re: Rock band holding out in a wave of anti rock
Post by: Frood on January 23, 2019, 11:35:13 PM
Muse has been doing that sort of music category defiance since they started in the 90's.
Title: Re: Rock band holding out in a wave of anti rock
Post by: Bricktop on January 24, 2019, 12:10:26 AM
Definitely the most prominent example.
Title: Re: Rock band holding out in a wave of anti rock
Post by: Anonymous on January 24, 2019, 12:19:43 AM
I don't know if Rainbow is considered prog rock or not, but I liked Ronnie James Dio's vocals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUpxniZBb5s