https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHpCCe9en2M
And people wonder why women are scaring us these days.
Some young people don't believe in differing view points.
Quote from: "Bricktop"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHpCCe9en2M
And people wonder why women are scaring us these days.
That girl she was interviewing is as sharp as a wet blanket.
I suspect she could not, with any amount of effort, wet a blanket
Quote from: "cc"
I suspect she could not, with any amount of effort, wet a blanket
She could make it wince with her stupidity.
Yet these are the people on BOTH sides making the noise that is frightening the political class.
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Yet these are the people on BOTH sides making the noise that is frightening the political class.
The interviewer had a brain and can support her positions. The interviewee is an idiot.
The interviewer was a class over the dumbitch.
But still not particularly astute.
Her views on abortion and gun control were silly.
Quote from: "Bricktop"
The interviewer was a class over the dumbitch.
But still not particularly astute.
Her views on abortion and gun control were silly.
I know a lot of people who think my views on when life begins are silly..
I don't care.
Here's my view on abortion.
It's none of my business because I am a male.
It's a matter of choice for the female, and nobody has a right to judge her for that.
Carrying a rapists baby is repugnant and she has every right to exclude herself from that torment.
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Here's my view on abortion.
It's none of my business because I am a male.
It's a matter of choice for the female, and nobody has a right to judge her for that.
Carrying a rapists baby is repugnant and she has every right to exclude herself from that torment.
And my view is that unborn babies shouldn't be murdered..
We'll never agree I'm afraid.
Two more fools.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljL3sdF32uo
What's a grinder?
I used to like infowars until I realized all their news were fake, lol for the girl in black she just needs to be kicked off a cliff.
Quote from: "Zetsu"
I used to like infowars until I realized all their news were fake, lol for the girl in black she just needs to be kicked off a cliff.
I wouldn't call interviews with random university students news reporting anyway.
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
I used to like infowars until I realized all their news were fake, lol for the girl in black she just needs to be kicked off a cliff.
I wouldn't call interviews with random university students news reporting anyway.
I wouldn't consider it to be either, while infowars can never help it but interact with real life trolls, lol.
She's baiting, like the little prog says.
Parroting the same question is not interviewing. It's badgering.
Taxation is NOT theft. It is not morally conscionable in how it's imposed in the modern age, but it is lawfully applied because we allow Governments to impose it as they see fit under legislation passed in our parliaments.
That is not to say that massive reform of taxation, like our electoral processes, are not wildly overdue. Governments using taxation to impose unpopular policy is unacceptable. ALL taxation must be approved by the plebiscite to become acceptable.
ac_lmfao Taxation is not theft. ac_toofunny
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Here's my view on abortion.
It's none of my business.
It's a matter of choice for the female, and nobody has a right to judge her for that.
Carrying a rapists baby is repugnant and she has every right to exclude herself from that torment.
Agreed
I wouldn't consider a flat rate to be theft, but over a quarter of a person's salary taken for taxes is a bit too much.
"Larceny is a crime against possession. Furthermore, it has two elements which must be met: the actual taking of the property, even if momentarily (actus reus), and the culpable intent to deprive another of their property (mens rea). Larceny involves the trespassory taking of property from possession of another, with the intent to permanently deprive the owner of that property."
Do you see the word "trespassory", Aaron. It's a BIG word, I know...but it means that the asportation of said property must be as a result of a trespass on the rights to ownership, which typically means taking the property WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF THE OWNER.
By allowing our governments to pass laws legalising the taking of our money, we in effect provide said consent.
Now, I get it that what is happening now is wrong...but it is not wrong because the government breaks the law. It is wrong because the government is free to make laws without requiring a plebiscite to approve those laws.
Our form of government must be drastically revised...and a key component of that revision is that ALL budgets of public expenditure must be approved by referendum. My preference would be that any political party must submit their proposed budget to the people as part of the election campaign, and if elected must conform to the approved budget...subject to unexpected situations that may arise, such as natural disasters, conflict, community and other emergencies.
Calling it theft doesn't help.
ac_lmfao ac_toofunny
The chimp is still insisting that taxation isn't theft.
Too funny.
Rather than act like a hysterical rhesus monkey, make a lucid argument, butternuts.
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Quote from: "Zetsu"
I used to like infowars until I realized all their news were fake, lol for the girl in black she just needs to be kicked off a cliff.
I wouldn't call interviews with random university students news reporting anyway.
Infowars has fun with progs. It's entertainment.
It's like me toying with Freud!!
These same pro-abortion people are so terrified when a veal gets cut up into meat jelly..
Quote from: "Odinson"
These same pro-abortion people are so terrified when a veal gets cut up into meat jelly..
A veal?
You mean a seal.
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
These same pro-abortion people are so terrified when a veal gets cut up into meat jelly..
A veal?
You mean a seal.
A baby cow..
Now I think veal means the flesh of a calf.
I meant calf. ac_biggrin
Quote from: "Odinson"
These same pro-abortion people are so terrified when a veal gets cut up into meat jelly..
In Virginia a delegate tried to make abortion legal even a minute before a woman delivers. That same day the same delegate proposed legislation to protect the canker worm which is a caterpillar that turns into a moth.
In New York they passed a similar law re abortion. Now they are currently considering a bill to ban foie gras--goose and duck liver, from being served in restaurants because it is "cruel"
(BTW I am pro choice for the first one to two trimesters.)
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
These same pro-abortion people are so terrified when a veal gets cut up into meat jelly..
A veal?
You mean a seal.
Both.
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Quote from: "Odinson"
These same pro-abortion people are so terrified when a veal gets cut up into meat jelly..
In Virginia a delegate tried to make abortion legal even a minute before a woman delivers. That same day the same delegate proposed legislation to protect the canker worm which is a caterpillar that turns into a moth.
In New York they passed a similar law re abortion. Now they are currently considering a bill to ban foie gras--goose and duck liver, that being served in restaurants because it is "cruel"
(BTW I am pro choice for the first one to two trimesters.)
New York says ducks lives are more important than humam lives.
Quote from: "Bricktop"
What's a grinder?
Grinder is like Tinder, but for gays. My brother use to use it lol.
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Odinson"
These same pro-abortion people are so terrified when a veal gets cut up into meat jelly..
In Virginia a delegate tried to make abortion legal even a minute before a woman delivers. That same day the same delegate proposed legislation to protect the canker worm which is a caterpillar that turns into a moth.
In New York they passed a similar law re abortion. Now they are currently considering a bill to ban foie gras--goose and duck liver, that being served in restaurants because it is "cruel"
(BTW I am pro choice for the first one to two trimesters.)
:shock:
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Odinson"
These same pro-abortion people are so terrified when a veal gets cut up into meat jelly..
In Virginia a delegate tried to make abortion legal even a minute before a woman delivers. That same day the same delegate proposed legislation to protect the canker worm which is a caterpillar that turns into a moth.
In New York they passed a similar law re abortion. Now they are currently considering a bill to ban foie gras--goose and duck liver, that being served in restaurants because it is "cruel"
(BTW I am pro choice for the first one to two trimesters.)
:shock:
Here she is in a video admitting it--
https://twitter.com/vahousegop/status/1090346857925144576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1090346857925144576&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftownhall.com%2Ftipsheet%2Fcortneyobrien%2F2019%2F01%2F29%2Fvirginia-dems-try-to-pass-40week-abortion-bill-n2540461
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Odinson"
These same pro-abortion people are so terrified when a veal gets cut up into meat jelly..
In Virginia a delegate tried to make abortion legal even a minute before a woman delivers. That same day the same delegate proposed legislation to protect the canker worm which is a caterpillar that turns into a moth.
In New York they passed a similar law re abortion. Now they are currently considering a bill to ban foie gras--goose and duck liver, that being served in restaurants because it is "cruel"
(BTW I am pro choice for the first one to two trimesters.)
New York says ducks lives are more important than humam lives.
Here's another example of the prioritizing of progtards--
Celebrities Call for Ban on Boiling Lobsters Because They Feel Pain, But Aborting Babies is Fine
https://www.lifenews.com/2018/02/01/celebrities-call-for-ban-on-boiling-lobsters-because-they-feel-pain-but-aborting-babies-is-fine/
Just craziness Wazzzup.
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Odinson"
These same pro-abortion people are so terrified when a veal gets cut up into meat jelly..
In Virginia a delegate tried to make abortion legal even a minute before a woman delivers. That same day the same delegate proposed legislation to protect the canker worm which is a caterpillar that turns into a moth.
In New York they passed a similar law re abortion. Now they are currently considering a bill to ban foie gras--goose and duck liver, that being served in restaurants because it is "cruel"
(BTW I am pro choice for the first one to two trimesters.)
:shock:
3rd trimester abortion..
The baby comes out, they nurture him/her and then decide whether to kill him/her..
babies are born dead fairly often...
Babies come too early and die as well.
Don't over think it. Every embryo and fetus is a life but not a potential for life.
And this subject is one between a mother and the doctor.
Makes me ashamed they passed that shit here in Virginia.
I think there needs to be another Virginia split, like West Virginia did. Make a South and North, you already know Im for the South lol. We are extremely divided in this state. The only reason Hiliar won Virginia, is because the majority of the population is in the Northern part, where the libs are, but was still a close one.
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babies are born dead fairly often...
Babies come too early and die as well.
Don't over think it. Every embryo and fetus is a life but not a potential for life.
And this subject is one between a mother and the doctor.
People wake up dead fairly often.
People just die early.
Dont over think it. Every leftie and a female is a life, technically, but not a potential for life.
If I kill a 88th trimester baby democrat...
Is that murder or an abortion?
Seen as how there doesnt seem to be any limit to it..
It's not your business.
You're only responsible for your own fertility issues.
Quote from: "caskur"
It's not your business.
You're only responsible for your own fertility issues.
What if the pregnancy is inconvenient for me and I need the child-support money for down payments on my new Dodge Ram 3500?
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Here's my view on abortion.
It's none of my business because I am a male.
It's a matter of choice for the female, and nobody has a right to judge her for that.
Carrying a rapists baby is repugnant and she has every right to exclude herself from that torment.
I have to respectfully disagree somewhat. IMO it should be up to society at large--both women and men, to decide the question of when life begins.
I support abortion until viability. Once a baby is viable, able to live outside the womb, it is a person IMO, and termination no longer permitted.
It's a fair point...but men are not burdened with both the tribulations of childbirth nor the raising of the child.
Only women understand the emotional and social consequences of carrying and caring for a child they do not want.
If I dont want to be a father..
I would hear the "dont have sex" argument..
Women should not have sex if they dont want to get pregnant.. Easy.. ac_biggrin
Getting pregnant and giving birth is indeed the function of women.. Its nature..
Be aware of this fact the next time you have sex...
Maybe we would have less STDs roaming around if people were more responsible.
Quote from: "Odinson"
If I dont want to be a father..
I would hear the "dont have sex" argument..
Women should not have sex if they dont want to get pregnant.. Easy.. ac_biggrin
Getting pregnant and giving birth is indeed the function of women.. Its nature..
Be aware of this fact the next time you have sex...
Maybe we would have less STDs roaming around if people were more responsible.
Creating and raising offspring is the function of every living creature.
Quote from: "Bricktop"
It's a fair point...but men are not burdened with both the tribulations of childbirth nor the raising of the child.
Only women understand the emotional and social consequences of carrying and caring for a child they do not want.
Certainly men don't carry it or deliver it, but they may also mourn the loss of an aborted child or OTOH be unhappy about having to pay lifelong for a child they do not want.
Which leads me to the question-- is it fair for a man to have to pay for a child he would have preferred the woman abort or give up for adoption? And Is it fair for the woman to terminate a child if the man will agree to take it and care for it? I for one am not sure.
Herman had an interesting idea about having a time frame in which men could have some say in the decision process, since they are affected as well. he mentioned it here-
https://thebluecashew.net/post276182.html?hilit=abortion#p276182
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
It's a fair point...but men are not burdened with both the tribulations of childbirth nor the raising of the child.
Only women understand the emotional and social consequences of carrying and caring for a child they do not want.
Certainly men don't carry it or deliver it, but they may also mourn the loss of an aborted child or OTOH be unhappy about having to pay lifelong for a child they do not want.
Which leads me to the question-- is it fair for a man to have to pay for a child he would have preferred the woman abort or give up for adoption? And Is it fair for the woman to terminate a child if the man will agree to take it and care for it? I for one am not sure.
Herman had an interesting idea about having a time frame in which men could have some say in the decision process, since they are affected as well. he mentioned it here-
https://thebluecashew.net/post276182.html?hilit=abortion#p276182
I forgot about Herman's idea about the decision process..
You've raised some good questions here Wazzzup.
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
If I dont want to be a father..
I would hear the "dont have sex" argument..
Women should not have sex if they dont want to get pregnant.. Easy.. ac_biggrin
Getting pregnant and giving birth is indeed the function of women.. Its nature..
Be aware of this fact the next time you have sex...
Maybe we would have less STDs roaming around if people were more responsible.
Creating and raising offspring is the function of every living creature.
Yes.. But some women seem to not be okay with the cards they were dealt..
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
If I dont want to be a father..
I would hear the "dont have sex" argument..
Women should not have sex if they dont want to get pregnant.. Easy.. ac_biggrin
Getting pregnant and giving birth is indeed the function of women.. Its nature..
Be aware of this fact the next time you have sex...
Maybe we would have less STDs roaming around if people were more responsible.
Creating and raising offspring is the function of every living creature.
Yes.. But some women seem to not be okay with the cards they were dealt..
Unfortunately, there are crybabies in both genders.
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
It's a fair point...but men are not burdened with both the tribulations of childbirth nor the raising of the child.
Only women understand the emotional and social consequences of carrying and caring for a child they do not want.
Certainly men don't carry it or deliver it, but they may also mourn the loss of an aborted child or OTOH be unhappy about having to pay lifelong for a child they do not want.
Which leads me to the question-- is it fair for a man to have to pay for a child he would have preferred the woman abort or give up for adoption? And Is it fair for the woman to terminate a child if the man will agree to take it and care for it? I for one am not sure.
Herman had an interesting idea about having a time frame in which men could have some say in the decision process, since they are affected as well. he mentioned it here-
https://thebluecashew.net/post276182.html?hilit=abortion#p276182
I forgot about that. Besides being an interesting idea, it's a compromise only extremists won't like. Women alone can decide in the first trimester if they terminate or continue a pregnancy. But, if they decide to carry the baby to term, a man gets to decide if he wants to be part of the baby's life or not.
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
It's a fair point...but men are not burdened with both the tribulations of childbirth nor the raising of the child.
Only women understand the emotional and social consequences of carrying and caring for a child they do not want.
Certainly men don't carry it or deliver it, but they may also mourn the loss of an aborted child or OTOH be unhappy about having to pay lifelong for a child they do not want.
Which leads me to the question-- is it fair for a man to have to pay for a child he would have preferred the woman abort or give up for adoption? And Is it fair for the woman to terminate a child if the man will agree to take it and care for it? I for one am not sure.
Herman had an interesting idea about having a time frame in which men could have some say in the decision process, since they are affected as well. he mentioned it here-
https://thebluecashew.net/post276182.html?hilit=abortion#p276182
It is the unanswerable question...because we are asking for ONE rule to cover all the complex issues that are involved in procreation.
However, no act of government can override the fact that it is the female that carries and is often left with the responsibility. So it is HER choice.
The issue of men having a say is that THAT is a conversation they should have BEFORE engaging in a potentially impregnating sexual encounter...not after.
If the encounter is casual, and the pregnancy is unforeseen, I believe the female is entitled to make her own choice.
If the relationship is more enduring, and childbirth was a likely and expected eventually, then the man's rights come into play.
But, the if the proposed solution is simply saying abortion is legal, yes or no, then it won't work. Terminating pregnancy is a complicated matter, and more thought needs to be given as to how abortion is accessed and the framework within it is legal.
In the meantime, I still feel it is better for society as a whole to avoid unwanted children. The best way to do so is to avoid unwanted pregnancy...which is not always easy.
Quote from: "Bricktop"
It's a fair point...but men are not burdened with both the tribulations of childbirth nor the raising of the child.
Only women understand the emotional and social consequences of carrying and caring for a child they do not want.
If men were jailed for getting an unmarried woman pregnant, then how many unwanted pregnacies would there be
?
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
It's a fair point...but men are not burdened with both the tribulations of childbirth nor the raising of the child.
Only women understand the emotional and social consequences of carrying and caring for a child they do not want.
If men were jailed for getting an unmarried woman pregnant, then how many unwanted pregnacies would there be
?
About the same amount..
You still cant find the father.
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Here's my view on abortion.
It's none of my business because I am a male.
It's a matter of choice for the female, and nobody has a right to judge her for that.
Carrying a rapists baby is repugnant and she has every right to exclude herself from that torment.
I have to respectfully disagree somewhat. IMO it should be up to society at large--both women and men, to decide the question of when life begins.
I support abortion until viability. Once a baby is viable, able to live outside the womb, it is a person IMO, and termination no longer permitted.
I don't think Australia allows abortion after the first trimester.
Babies cannot live outside wombs even after they're born without being cared for and fed.
Babies are regularly abandoned and most of the time its due to a parent or parents not being able to support it. That's pretty sad.
We had two homeless aborigines with a child recently who murdered their 2 year old daughter. The father threw her in the ocean and she washed up on a beach MILES from where she drowned.
I always think, it's better to abort than murder toddlers. It's more mentally scarring on the public.
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
It's a fair point...but men are not burdened with both the tribulations of childbirth nor the raising of the child.
Only women understand the emotional and social consequences of carrying and caring for a child they do not want.
If men were jailed for getting an unmarried woman pregnant, then how many unwanted pregnacies would there be
?
About the same amount..
You still cant find the father.
If I found the father, I'd cut off his nuts and fix him for good.
It's about time MEN were held 100% responsible for unwanted children.
End of.
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
It's a fair point...but men are not burdened with both the tribulations of childbirth nor the raising of the child.
Only women understand the emotional and social consequences of carrying and caring for a child they do not want.
If men were jailed for getting an unmarried woman pregnant, then how many unwanted pregnacies would there be
?
About the same amount..
You still cant find the father.
If I found the father, I'd cut off his nuts and fix him for good.
It's about time MEN were held 100% responsible for unwanted children.
End of.
We ARE held 100% responsible for unwanted children...
Sometimes we are held 100% responsible for some other mans children because the woman said that you are the father.
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Here's my view on abortion.
It's none of my business because I am a male.
It's a matter of choice for the female, and nobody has a right to judge her for that.
Carrying a rapists baby is repugnant and she has every right to exclude herself from that torment.
I have to respectfully disagree somewhat. IMO it should be up to society at large--both women and men, to decide the question of when life begins.
I support abortion until viability. Once a baby is viable, able to live outside the womb, it is a person IMO, and termination no longer permitted.
I don't think Australia allows abortion after the first trimester.
Babies cannot live outside wombs even after they're born without being cared for and fed.
Babies are regularly abandoned and most of the time its due to a parent or parents not being able to support it. That's pretty sad.
We had two homeless aborigines with a child recently who murdered their 2 year old daughter. The father threw her in the ocean and she washed up on a beach MILES from where she drowned.
I always think, it's better to abort than murder toddlers. It's more mentally scarring on the public.
You're making a value added judgement between pre vag and post vag travel?
Does the vag, in your view constitute some crowning sentience?
How does that work with C-Sections?
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
It's a fair point...but men are not burdened with both the tribulations of childbirth nor the raising of the child.
Only women understand the emotional and social consequences of carrying and caring for a child they do not want.
Certainly men don't carry it or deliver it, but they may also mourn the loss of an aborted child or OTOH be unhappy about having to pay lifelong for a child they do not want.
Which leads me to the question-- is it fair for a man to have to pay for a child he would have preferred the woman abort or give up for adoption? And Is it fair for the woman to terminate a child if the man will agree to take it and care for it? I for one am not sure.
Herman had an interesting idea about having a time frame in which men could have some say in the decision process, since they are affected as well. he mentioned it here-
https://thebluecashew.net/post276182.html?hilit=abortion#p276182
It is the unanswerable question...because we are asking for ONE rule to cover all the complex issues that are involved in procreation.
However, no act of government can override the fact that it is the female that carries and is often left with the responsibility. So it is HER choice.
The issue of men having a say is that THAT is a conversation they should have BEFORE engaging in a potentially impregnating sexual encounter...not after.
If the encounter is casual, and the pregnancy is unforeseen, I believe the female is entitled to make her own choice.
If the relationship is more enduring, and childbirth was a likely and expected eventually, then the man's rights come into play.
But, the if the proposed solution is simply saying abortion is legal, yes or no, then it won't work. Terminating pregnancy is a complicated matter, and more thought needs to be given as to how abortion is accessed and the framework within it is legal.
In the meantime, I still feel it is better for society as a whole to avoid unwanted children. The best way to do so is to avoid unwanted pregnancy...which is not always easy.
What do you think of my idea of a brief opting out period for men who don't want to be fathers? I support a woman's right to choose, but I also support a man's right to do what he wants with his own life. Fair is fair.
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "caskur"
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Quote from: "Bricktop"
Here's my view on abortion.
It's none of my business because I am a male.
It's a matter of choice for the female, and nobody has a right to judge her for that.
Carrying a rapists baby is repugnant and she has every right to exclude herself from that torment.
I have to respectfully disagree somewhat. IMO it should be up to society at large--both women and men, to decide the question of when life begins.
I support abortion until viability. Once a baby is viable, able to live outside the womb, it is a person IMO, and termination no longer permitted.
I don't think Australia allows abortion after the first trimester.
Babies cannot live outside wombs even after they're born without being cared for and fed.
Babies are regularly abandoned and most of the time its due to a parent or parents not being able to support it. That's pretty sad.
We had two homeless aborigines with a child recently who murdered their 2 year old daughter. The father threw her in the ocean and she washed up on a beach MILES from where she drowned.
I always think, it's better to abort than murder toddlers. It's more mentally scarring on the public.
You're making a value added judgement between pre vag and post vag travel?
Does the vag, in your view constitute some crowning sentience?
How does that work with C-Sections?
No I'm not...
I'm worried for the living children who rely on adults for their very lives.
Not all adults have the best interest of kids. It boils my blood.
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
It's a fair point...but men are not burdened with both the tribulations of childbirth nor the raising of the child.
Only women understand the emotional and social consequences of carrying and caring for a child they do not want.
Certainly men don't carry it or deliver it, but they may also mourn the loss of an aborted child or OTOH be unhappy about having to pay lifelong for a child they do not want.
Which leads me to the question-- is it fair for a man to have to pay for a child he would have preferred the woman abort or give up for adoption? And Is it fair for the woman to terminate a child if the man will agree to take it and care for it? I for one am not sure.
Herman had an interesting idea about having a time frame in which men could have some say in the decision process, since they are affected as well. he mentioned it here-
https://thebluecashew.net/post276182.html?hilit=abortion#p276182
It is the unanswerable question...because we are asking for ONE rule to cover all the complex issues that are involved in procreation.
However, no act of government can override the fact that it is the female that carries and is often left with the responsibility. So it is HER choice.
The issue of men having a say is that THAT is a conversation they should have BEFORE engaging in a potentially impregnating sexual encounter...not after.
If the encounter is casual, and the pregnancy is unforeseen, I believe the female is entitled to make her own choice.
If the relationship is more enduring, and childbirth was a likely and expected eventually, then the man's rights come into play.
But, the if the proposed solution is simply saying abortion is legal, yes or no, then it won't work. Terminating pregnancy is a complicated matter, and more thought needs to be given as to how abortion is accessed and the framework within it is legal.
In the meantime, I still feel it is better for society as a whole to avoid unwanted children. The best way to do so is to avoid unwanted pregnancy...which is not always easy.
What do you think of my idea of a brief opting out period for men who don't want to be fathers? I support a woman's right to choose, but I also support a man's right to do what he wants with his own life. Fair is fair.
They already do that.
You rarely see men step-up... in fact it's rarer than hen's teeth. Then you get men who have sex with their own bio-logical children. The courts just hand them over to pervert dad.
I think if women had the ability to see into futures, most wouldn't have their children with deadbeats.
The only hope future generation have is good education in morals and pitfuls from parents...
And good luck with that too.
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You didn't read my idea. And it doesn't exist in this country. But, it should.
So you're okay if someone sticks a tubular framed probe up a pregnant woman a week or two before that baby is meant to be naturally birthed, then chops it into portions and drags it out?
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You didn't read my idea. And it doesn't exist in this country. But, it should.
Probably not because I don't care what men think... I only care what mothers want.
I'm sorry for people who lose their pregnacies through natural causes.
I'm sorry for women who are forced into being a host for a parasite.
I'm sorry for people still using this subject as a political football decades on.
I blame men 100% for the situation we have now. They shouldn't stick their uncovered dicks in fertile women unless they're married and have a job. No ifs or buts about it.
Did you know a couple of weeks ago in my state a 12 year old gave birth? She was 11 when she was made pregnant.
Caskur is a barbaric fuckwit.
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So you're okay if someone sticks a tubular framed probe up a pregnant woman a week or two before that baby is meant to be naturally birthed, then chops it into portions and drags it out?
Who does that?
States of New York and Virginia, apparently.
Do you agree?
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States of New York and Virginia, apparently.
Do you agree?
I couldn't do that to my own child.
I find that method, (if it really goes on which I don't believe it does) to be really stupid.
Wouldn't euthanazing a fetus and having the mother deliver it naturally (or C section) be a better method than dismembering?
Do you make a distinction between one week before term and one week beyond term? If you don't, when does the baby assume human rights?
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Do you make a distinction between one week before term and one week beyond term? If you don't, when does the baby assume human rights?
Good question.
I'm not sure there is a definitive answer.
According to the OT it's invitro. But I really don't know if that was a mother's or father's right.
OT says - If you caused a pregnant woman to lose her baby, you had committed an act of murder and were held accountable.
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ac_lmfao Taxation is not theft. ac_toofunny
I choked with laughter when he said that too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnOcCfxLZlA
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnOcCfxLZlA
Abortion is just a word to some people.
And parenting is just a word to others.
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And parenting is just a word to others.
That is unfortunately true Bricktop.
The actual medical term for miscarriage is Spontaneous Abortion so yes, it just a word to me, not so much to mothers whose medical records are stamped, Spontaneeous Abortion. I know a lady who had 9 Spontaneous Abortions, read her medical records and broke down.
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And parenting is just a word to others.
That is unfortunately true Bricktop.
My parenting was not much more than being the breadwinner. I was all over the world when my boy was growing up.
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So you're okay if someone sticks a tubular framed probe up a pregnant woman a week or two before that baby is meant to be naturally birthed, then chops it into portions and drags it out?
Who does that?
I saw a video clip last week of this....It was the most disgusting thing I ever seen....basically a full term woman on a bed...the body of the baby was sticking out of the vagina and the doc had a probe jamming it in the head and ripping it up to pull it out....it was God awful.
That's bullshit. The time to have an abortion is in the first trimester, not at 39 weeks...ffs. Unless there was a serious birth defect with the baby, like it had some sort of disorder where it couldnt breath on it's own and massive brain damage, something so terrible where the quality of life is unbearable, then I would be ok with it. Having to take care of a child who is half brain dead, etc is not living life to the fullest, never mind the amount of money needed to support that kind of disability.
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So you're okay if someone sticks a tubular framed probe up a pregnant woman a week or two before that baby is meant to be naturally birthed, then chops it into portions and drags it out?
Who does that?
I saw a video clip last week of this....It was the most disgusting thing I ever seen....basically a full term woman on a bed...the body of the baby was sticking out of the vagina and the doc had a probe jamming it in the head and ripping it up to pull it out....it was God awful.
That's bullshit. The time to have an abortion is in the first trimester, not at 39 weeks...ffs. Unless there was a serious birth defect with the baby, like it had some sort of disorder where it couldnt breath on it's own and massive brain damage, something so terrible where the quality of life is unbearable, then I would be ok with it. Having to take care of a child who is half brain dead, etc is not living life to the fullest, never mind the amount of money needed to support that kind of disability.
That is barbaric. Shame on any country that does not jail doctors who would do that.
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So you're okay if someone sticks a tubular framed probe up a pregnant woman a week or two before that baby is meant to be naturally birthed, then chops it into portions and drags it out?
Who does that?
I saw a video clip last week of this....It was the most disgusting thing I ever seen....basically a full term woman on a bed...the body of the baby was sticking out of the vagina and the doc had a probe jamming it in the head and ripping it up to pull it out....it was God awful.
That's bullshit. The time to have an abortion is in the first trimester, not at 39 weeks...ffs. Unless there was a serious birth defect with the baby, like it had some sort of disorder where it couldnt breath on it's own and massive brain damage, something so terrible where the quality of life is unbearable, then I would be ok with it. Having to take care of a child who is half brain dead, etc is not living life to the fullest, never mind the amount of money needed to support that kind of disability.
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If the baby can survive outside the womb, even with incubator help, this discussion about late term abortion-killing is a moot point.
It's at the very least manslaughter, but more like premedicated murder.
ffs, give that baby person to a couple or even individual who wants to love it.
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So you're okay if someone sticks a tubular framed probe up a pregnant woman a week or two before that baby is meant to be naturally birthed, then chops it into portions and drags it out?
Who does that?
I saw a video clip last week of this....It was the most disgusting thing I ever seen....basically a full term woman on a bed...the body of the baby was sticking out of the vagina and the doc had a probe jamming it in the head and ripping it up to pull it out....it was God awful.
That's bullshit. The time to have an abortion is in the first trimester, not at 39 weeks...ffs. Unless there was a serious birth defect with the baby, like it had some sort of disorder where it couldnt breath on it's own and massive brain damage, something so terrible where the quality of life is unbearable, then I would be ok with it. Having to take care of a child who is half brain dead, etc is not living life to the fullest, never mind the amount of money needed to support that kind of disability.
Humans do disgusting things to other humans.
39 week abortions are rare I would say.
And don't trust videos. They're designed to control minds and influence emotions. Most of the time they're fake.
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So you're okay if someone sticks a tubular framed probe up a pregnant woman a week or two before that baby is meant to be naturally birthed, then chops it into portions and drags it out?
Who does that?
I saw a video clip last week of this....It was the most disgusting thing I ever seen....basically a full term woman on a bed...the body of the baby was sticking out of the vagina and the doc had a probe jamming it in the head and ripping it up to pull it out....it was God awful.
That's bullshit. The time to have an abortion is in the first trimester, not at 39 weeks...ffs. Unless there was a serious birth defect with the baby, like it had some sort of disorder where it couldnt breath on it's own and massive brain damage, something so terrible where the quality of life is unbearable, then I would be ok with it. Having to take care of a child who is half brain dead, etc is not living life to the fullest, never mind the amount of money needed to support that kind of disability.
Of course.
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If the baby can survive outside the womb, even with incubator help, this discussion about late term abortion-killing is a moot point.
It's at the very least manslaughter, but more like premedicated murder.
ffs, give that baby person to a couple or even individual who wants to love it.
I agree with that.
I think the fundamental difference in philosophy is-
Some people think life begins only after the baby exits the mothers body. But we all know that most premature babies after 24 weeks can survive. That is why I believe it begins when the baby is viable-capable of living outside the mothers body. IMO that is a more scientific and less arbitrary definition of life than the baby's physical location.
24 weeks is plenty of time to decide what to do.
I dont like the thought of abortion either. But let's say late in the game you find out your child will never be able to walk, feed itself, change itself, not have the capacity to learn or understand. You will be faced with having to purchase expencive equipment like wheel chairs, bath and shower equipment, non stop docs appointments, rounds of medications, a possible nurse, if not you cannot work because you have to physically be able to provide for that child 24/7, possibly forever, etc etc....your life and career is down the drain....easier said than done to love a child like that...will YOU do that for the rest of your life? Where will you get the money from? You arent working because you cant. Who will provide? Are you willing to have help or put the child in a home? Knowing that they will be abused? Will YOU do this? Honest answers. Will you?
(Nevermind downs syndrome, etc, those children can live good lives...I'm talking about children born with serious defects.)
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I dont like the thought of abortion either. But, let's say late in the game you find out your child will never be able to walk, feed itself, change itself, not have the capacity to learn or understand. You will be faced with having to purchase expencive equipment like wheel chairs, bath and shower equipment, non stop docs appointments, rounds of medications, a possible nurse, if not you cannot work because you have to physically be able to provide for that child 24/7, possibly forever, etc etc....your life and career is down the drain....easier said than done to love a child like that...will YOU do that for the rest of your life? Where will you get the money from? You arent working because you cant. Who will provide? Are you willing to have help or put the child in a home? Knowing that they will be abused? Will YOU do this? Honest answers. Will you?
(Nevermind mental retardation, etc, those children can live good lives...I'm talking about children born with serious defects.)
I know you said nevermind mentally handicapped, but I had a daughter born with Down's Syndrome..
There are no circumstances other than my own life, that I would've terminated a pregnancy.
Downs syndrome can still live a good life. They are capable of doing things. My kid has gone to school with a few of them since kindergarten. I watched them grow and develop. They sing and act in school plays, play on the sports team. There are many with autism as well. They have their struggles, but they are amazing. One even does tak won do and is really good at it.
I dont care about those small things. But for me...I could never take care of a child stuck in a scooter, drooling everywhere with a suction tube down its throat, changing its diapers at 14 years old...I couldnt do that...even giving birth to the child and giving it up...you know that no one will adopt that child...it will end up in a home being abused. It's not fair either way.
Nearly all fetal problems are detected before 22 weeks. There are a couple of tests that are done later, but fetal abnormalities discovered after 22 weeks are very rare.
Perhaps an exception could be made for severe deformity in the 3rd trimester, along with, of course, saving the life of the mother. I think most would agree with that.
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Downs syndrome can still live a good life. They are capable of doing things. My kid has gone to school with a few of them since kindergarten. I watched them grow and develop. They sing and act in school plays, play on the sports team. There are many with autism as well. They have their struggles, but they are amazing. One even does tak won do and is really good at it.
I dont care about those small things. But for me...I could never take care of a child stuck in a scooter, drooling everywhere with a suction tube down its throat, changing its diapers at 14 years old...I couldnt do that...even giving birth to the child and giving it up...you know that no one will adopt that child...it will end up in a home being abused. It's not fair either way.
A special needs child is a challenge and the more severe their problem, the bigger the challenge.
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I dont like the thought of abortion either. But let's say late in the game you find out your child will never be able to walk, feed itself, change itself, not have the capacity to learn or understand. You will be faced with having to purchase expencive equipment like wheel chairs, bath and shower equipment, non stop docs appointments, rounds of medications, a possible nurse, if not you cannot work because you have to physically be able to provide for that child 24/7, possibly forever, etc etc....your life and career is down the drain....easier said than done to love a child like that...will YOU do that for the rest of your life? Where will you get the money from? You arent working because you cant. Who will provide? Are you willing to have help or put the child in a home? Knowing that they will be abused? Will YOU do this? Honest answers. Will you?
(Nevermind downs syndrome, etc, those children can live good lives...I'm talking about children born with serious defects.)
I would not want to live like that.
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I dont care about those small things. But for me...I could never take care of a child stuck in a scooter, drooling everywhere with a suction tube down its throat, changing its diapers at 14 years old...I couldnt do that...even giving birth to the child and giving it up...you know that no one will adopt that child...it will end up in a home being abused. It's not fair either way.
Absolutely. The innocent child is kept in virtual solitary confinement until death. No justice at all.
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So you're okay if someone sticks a tubular framed probe up a pregnant woman a week or two before that baby is meant to be naturally birthed, then chops it into portions and drags it out?
Who does that?
I saw a video clip last week of this....It was the most disgusting thing I ever seen....basically a full term woman on a bed...the body of the baby was sticking out of the vagina and the doc had a probe jamming it in the head and ripping it up to pull it out....it was God awful.
That's bullshit. The time to have an abortion is in the first trimester, not at 39 weeks...ffs. Unless there was a serious birth defect with the baby, like it had some sort of disorder where it couldnt breath on it's own and massive brain damage, something so terrible where the quality of life is unbearable, then I would be ok with it. Having to take care of a child who is half brain dead, etc is not living life to the fullest, never mind the amount of money needed to support that kind of disability.
That is barbaric. Shame on any country that does not jail doctors who would do that.
But, they want to ban shark fin soup.
Veganism is all about harassing other people..
Just like with all the leftie rainbow things..
But pregnancy, giving birth might have serious repercussions on their life... That is why they are willing to do the most brutal thing imaginable..
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Veganism is all about harassing other people..
Just like with all the leftie rainbow things..
But pregnancy, giving birth might have serious repercussions on their life... That is why they are willing to do the most brutal thing imaginable..
Not all vegans berate carnivores. But, the ones that do are a pain.
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Veganism is all about harassing other people..
Just like with all the leftie rainbow things..
But pregnancy, giving birth might have serious repercussions on their life... That is why they are willing to do the most brutal thing imaginable..
Not all vegans berate carnivores. But, the ones that do are a pain.
I know the type.
I don't.
Zealots and extremists tend to be somewhat reticent around me.
It must be my charisma.
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I don't.
Zealots and extremists tend to be somewhat reticent around me.
It must be my charisma.
I don't have any extreme vegans in my circle either. Ah darn.
Not likely to get any in Panama either.
Speaking of vegans, US senator Corey Booker, who is a vegan had this to say-
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The tragic reality is this planet simply can't sustain billions of people consuming industrially produced animal agriculture because of environmental impact. It's just not possible, as China, as Africa move toward consuming meat the same way America does because we just don't have enough land."
That's the new thing from the lefties "eating meat causes greenhouse gases" so I have to wonder if that will be a future authoritarian impulse from the democrats--demanding that people become vegans? Wouldn't surprise me.
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Speaking of vegans, US senator Corey Booker, who is a vegan had this to say-
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The tragic reality is this planet simply can't sustain billions of people consuming industrially produced animal agriculture because of environmental impact. It's just not possible, as China, as Africa move toward consuming meat the same way America does because we just don't have enough land."
That's the new thing from the lefties "eating meat causes greenhouse gases" so I have to wonder if that will be a future authoritarian impulse from the democrats--demanding that people become vegans? Wouldn't surprise me.
It's a form of genocide they're proposing.
Should cannibals get extra points for eating children?
All extreme Vegans live near me.
I will continue being a carnivore if for no other reason than it pisses off rich progs.
Rich progs will still be having barbecue smorgasbords long after our new diets render us weak, docile, and stupid.
I went on a Pritikin vegan diet for 3 months... It was fantastic and I HIGHLY recommend it but I love meat, fish and duck (not chicken) and while a vegan diet is a great temporary fitness exercise, it's not a long term thing for me.
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I went on a Pritikin vegan diet for 3 months... It was fantastic and I HIGHLY recommend it but I love meat, fish and duck (not chicken) and while a vegan diet is a great temporary fitness exercise, it's not a long term thing for me.
I eat less meat in the last few years, but no way would go total vegan.
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I went on a Pritikin vegan diet for 3 months... It was fantastic and I HIGHLY recommend it but I love meat, fish and duck (not chicken) and while a vegan diet is a great temporary fitness exercise, it's not a long term thing for me.
I eat less meat in the last few years, but no way would go total vegan.
It's really good if you have a health issue and need to rest your organs. That's the best way I can put it. I felt like I had chronic fatigue syndrome and felt CURED after the Pritikin REGRESSION diet (most severe of his diets).
I actually felt cured and do not think it was a plecebo. At the end of each month though, I had a Filet Mignon... and I battled to finish them...It was as if I really needed red meat, probably the iron and vit K or something.
Everything in moderation, so veganism is not for us.
We have meats or seafood on a near daily basis, so that would be viewed as a declaration of war to us.
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We have meats or seafood on a near daily basis, so that would be viewed as a declaration of war to us.
About 4 to 5 days a week in our kitchen.
The skin of the vegans I know is so beaytiful, they look 20 years younger...
BUT 2 of 4 I know had cancer... 1 with breast cancer, 1, with cancer of the womb.
The oldest one I know, is now 80 plus Seven Day Adventist. I was shocked when I first met her in her 70s... she had the skin of a 50 year old..
I should do vegan for a week but right now I'm going to polish off a battered piece of fish... Imma a sinner!!! ac_blush

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That's one of those misleading memes Odi..
There are other factors like genetics, the use of photoshop and of course the employment of make up artists.
Vegetarianism is fine if you get enough protein and have some milk, cheese, eggs etc. Veganism can be dangerous, you have to make sure to get certain amino acids that can only be gotten through eating dairy or meat or you will get sick.
I'm good with anybody being vegan if they want. Its their life. But if they try to tell me I have to do it too then they can *^%$ right off.
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Vegetarianism is fine if you get enough protein and have some milk, cheese, eggs etc. Veganism can be dangerous, you have to make sure to get certain amino acids that can only be gotten through eating dairy or meat or you will get sick.
I'm good with anybody being vegan if they want. Its their life. But if they try to tell me I have to do it too then they can *^%$ right off.
Tell me what to eat, drive, wear, how to heat and power my condo and they can *^%$ right off. Are you listening to me Pam and Leo.
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Vegetarianism is fine if you get enough protein and have some milk, cheese, eggs etc. Veganism can be dangerous, you have to make sure to get certain amino acids that can only be gotten through eating dairy or meat or you will get sick.
I'm good with anybody being vegan if they want. Its their life. But if they try to tell me I have to do it too then they can *^%$ right off.
There is a burgeoning industry of "Telling Us What To Do".
It is the most profitable enterprise of them all.
You can even diversify. Politics. Religion and evangelism, nutrionism, health fads and the rising star amongst them...journalism.
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The other "vegan" looks like a smoker and drinker...
The actual worse looking Vegan I have seen is James Cameron's wife....Suzy Amis... Google her... She's a walking skeleton who needs medical intervention.
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Now post a picture showing her collar bones... that'll make you gasp.
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She has a very thin face.
And a narrow mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeVlFqTQOIQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8WS56s5itA
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8WS56s5itA
Oh blah, blah, blah..
If he wants to be vegan that's his business..
If anyone wants to eat meat that's not his business.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8WS56s5itA
Oh blah, blah, blah..
If he wants to be vegan that's his business..
If anyone wants to eat meat that's not his business.
Yes but he has a noble cause.. He is saving the animals..
That means he has the right to bother other people.
You are just a murderer.
The stuff he says is not correct.. We can eat that squirrel but we choose not to because we think its distasteful..
That squirrel starts looking pretty good when you are starving.
Blazor may have tried squirrel.
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Blazor may have tried squirrel.
Or even more likely deadskin.
Hell, I'd try Squirrel. Some of the ones I've seen in my backyard look pretty tasty. :laugh:
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Blazor may have tried squirrel.
Or even more likely deadskin.
Hell, I'd try Squirrel. Some of the ones I've seen in my backyard look pretty tasty. :laugh:
Of course, Skinz probably has tried squirrel.
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Blazor may have tried squirrel.
I've always wanted to try it lol. My uncle use to keep a freezer full of 'em. That was my first venison experience I think was on his land. I didnt know him long though, and he was my favorite on my dad's side.
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Blazor may have tried squirrel.
I've always wanted to try it lol. My uncle use to keep a freezer full of 'em. That was my first venison experience I think was on his land. I didnt know him long though, and he was my favorite on my dad's side.
I've heard it tastes similar to rabbit.
I had squirrel stew once. It was neither here nor there but much like rabbit.
It all depends on their living area..
The squirrels here eat meat.
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Blazor may have tried squirrel.
I've always wanted to try it lol. My uncle use to keep a freezer full of 'em. That was my first venison experience I think was on his land. I didnt know him long though, and he was my favorite on my dad's side.
I've heard it tastes similar to rabbit.
I've had rabbit, and I like rabbit. My great grandma use to make fried rabbit with rabbit gravy, yum yum. I did that 2-3 Christmas's ago with my aunt for old time sake.
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I had squirrel stew once. It was neither here nor there but much like rabbit.
There are no squirrels in Victoria.
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I had squirrel stew once. It was neither here nor there but much like rabbit.
There are no squirrels in Victoria.
Really? OMG! That's mind boggling!
So is your claim to have eaten them.
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I had squirrel stew once. It was neither here nor there but much like rabbit.
There are no squirrels in Victoria.
He might have eaten squirrel when he lived in the states.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_QYq6LOYwc
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I had squirrel stew once. It was neither here nor there but much like rabbit.
There are no squirrels in Victoria.[/quote
He might have eaten squirrel when he lived in the states.
I'm sure he did.
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I had squirrel stew once. It was neither here nor there but much like rabbit.
There are no squirrels in Victoria.[/quote
He might have eaten squirrel when he lived in the states.
I'm sure he did.
When I lived and worked in Pennsylvania I knew a few people that hunted squirrels with a twenty two.
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I had squirrel stew once. It was neither here nor there but much like rabbit.
There are no squirrels in Victoria.
He might have eaten squirrel when he lived in the states.
I had some sort of hamster meal while in Peru too.
Oops.
Herman said "he".
ac_lmfao
And?
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I had squirrel stew once. It was neither here nor there but much like rabbit.
There are no squirrels in Victoria.[/quote
He might have eaten squirrel when he lived in the states.
I'm sure he did.
When I lived and worked in Pennsylvania I knew a few people that hunted squirrels with a twenty two.
Damn, we were practically neighbors lol.
Yup, a .22 is what to use. Or a shotgun with some small game shot.
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I had squirrel stew once. It was neither here nor there but much like rabbit.
There are no squirrels in Victoria.[/quote
He might have eaten squirrel when he lived in the states.
I'm sure he did.
When I lived and worked in Pennsylvania I knew a few people that hunted squirrels with a twenty two.
Damn, we were practically neighbors lol.
Yup, a .22 is what to use. Or a shotgun with some small game shot.
Do you know how squirrel is cooked?
In the walking dead, Darryl would just roast it on a spit..
Or dig it in the dirt, build a fire on it..
The small critters are usually for soup.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDiAHvbbkHY
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And?
And you responded in a manner which you accepted his remarks were about you.
Fraud.
Eating squirrels isnt as weird as eating the cud from an animals foregut..
We do it..
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And?
And you responded in a manner which you accepted his remarks were about you.
Fraud.
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Nope. Try again.
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Eating squirrels isnt as weird as eating the cud from an animals foregut..
We do it..
There are a lot of things that people eat that are a lot more unusual than squirrels.
MacDonalds?
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MacDonalds?
My little girl likes Taco Bell. :yuk:
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MacDonalds?
My little girl likes Taco Bell. :yuk:
I don't really like Mexican food..
If I do make fajitas, they are usually Asianized.
I cut give or take 20 kilos of beef today..
First dispatch of soon to become beef jerky.
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I cut give or take 20 kilos of beef today..
First dispatch of soon to become beef jerky.
That's a lot of beef..
Years ago we had own cow with another couple that we kept on a farm near Nanton..
We took it to a butcher who slaughtered it and cut it into steaks, roasts, and ground beef..
It was not cheaper than buying beef from Costco.
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I cut give or take 20 kilos of beef today..
First dispatch of soon to become beef jerky.
That's a lot of beef..
Years ago we had own cow with another couple that we kept on a farm near Nanton..
We took it to a butcher who slaughtered it and cut it into steaks, roasts, and ground beef..
It was not cheaper than buying beef from Costco.
Yeah.. Gonna get more but its not all for me.
A lot of people here buy reindeers like that.
I prefer cow beef to moose and reindeer... When it comes to jerky.
I cut it myself because its just easier that way... I´ve gotten pretty good at it over the years.
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MacDonalds?
My little girl likes Taco Bell. :yuk:
I don't really like Mexican food..
If I do make fajitas, they are usually Asianized.
Mexican food is really Italian food with different spices.
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I cut give or take 20 kilos of beef today..
First dispatch of soon to become beef jerky.
That's a lot of beef..
Years ago we had own cow with another couple that we kept on a farm near Nanton..
We took it to a butcher who slaughtered it and cut it into steaks, roasts, and ground beef..
It was not cheaper than buying beef from Costco.
Yeah.. Gonna get more but its not all for me.
A lot of people here buy reindeers like that.
I prefer cow beef to moose and reindeer... When it comes to jerky.
I cut it myself because its just easier that way... I´ve gotten pretty good at it over the years.
Shen Li used to buy a side of an elk from a farmer..
I don't know if she sill does or not.
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MacDonalds?
My little girl likes Taco Bell. :yuk:
I don't really like Mexican food..
If I do make fajitas, they are usually Asianized.
Mexican food is really Italian food with different spices.
Different ingredients though....guacamole, refried beans, corn tortillias, chipotle, oaxaca cheese, hominy, salsa verde and pasillia.
Italians eat all that,...
The Mexicans just use Cumin in their dishes...
I've never heard of Oaxaca or Chipotle... I'll have to look up that.
OK wiki says Oaxaca Cheese is originally from Italy...
Oaxaca cheese (Spanish: queso Oaxaca) more commonly referred to as Quesillo is a white, semihard cheese from Mexico, similar to unaged Monterey jack, but with a mozzarella-like string cheese texture.[1] Outside Mexico, Oaxaca cheese is often confused with asadero (queso asadero), a cheese produced in the northern state of Chihuahua. They are similar in texture and taste, but they are produced with different methods, making Oaxaca cheese slightly drier.[2]
It is named after the state of Oaxaca in southern Mexico, where it was first made. The string cheese process (pasta filata), originally from Italy, which is used to produce mozzarella, was brought to Mexico by the Dominican friars that settled in Oaxaca. However, as water buffallo milk was unavailable, they used cow's milk, instead. The cheese is available in several different shapes.
And Chipotle is another Cheese.
The origin of Cheese is Africa then Europe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_cheese
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Italians eat all that,...
The Mexicans just use Cumin in their dishes...
I've never heard of Oaxaca or Chipotle... I'll have to look up that.
I've never seen refried beans, or black turtle beans on a Italian restaurant menu.
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Italians eat all that,...
The Mexicans just use Cumin in their dishes...
I've never heard of Oaxaca or Chipotle... I'll have to look up that.
I've never seen refried beans, or black turtle beans on a Italian restaurant menu.
Because refried beans are called something else in Italy. Italians are HUGE bean eaters.
Minestrone soup has various beans in it and their most common soup.
I had an Italian girlfriend come back from the USA 35 years ago who was going all nuts over Mexican food and made some for me... why she was excited was, she said, "Mexican food is just like Italian food with different spices."
The Spaniards influenced Mexico, and the Spaniards served ancient Rome. Although tomato and corn and I think potato were from South America so someone somewhere took tomatoes, potatoes and corn to Europe.
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Italians eat all that,...
The Mexicans just use Cumin in their dishes...
I've never heard of Oaxaca or Chipotle... I'll have to look up that.
I've never seen refried beans, or black turtle beans on a Italian restaurant menu.
Because refried beans are called something else in Italy. Italians are HUGE bean eaters.
Minestrone soup has various beans in it and their most common soup.
I had an Italian girlfriend come back from the USA 35 years ago who was going all nuts over Mexican food and made some for me... why she was excited was, she said, "Mexican food is just like Italian food with different spices."
The Spaniards influenced Mexico, and the Spaniards served ancient Rome. Although tomato and corn and I think potato were from South America so someone somewhere took tomatoes, potatoes and corn to Europe.
Corn is a staple in Mexican cuisine(as it is throughout the Americas) and pasta is a staple in Italian cuisine..
Italians add olive oil to everything and Mexicans add lime..
The herbs Italians use are not part of Mexican cuisine..
The commonality seems to be tomatoes.
Wiki says refried beans are Pinto Beans usually and they originated in Northern Spain.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refried_beans
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinto_bean
I want know who the first cooks were and how they thought up their dishes. A subject that has always fascinated me.
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Italians eat all that,...
The Mexicans just use Cumin in their dishes...
I've never heard of Oaxaca or Chipotle... I'll have to look up that.
I've never seen refried beans, or black turtle beans on a Italian restaurant menu.
Because refried beans are called something else in Italy. Italians are HUGE bean eaters.
Minestrone soup has various beans in it and their most common soup.
I had an Italian girlfriend come back from the USA 35 years ago who was going all nuts over Mexican food and made some for me... why she was excited was, she said, "Mexican food is just like Italian food with different spices."
The Spaniards influenced Mexico, and the Spaniards served ancient Rome. Although tomato and corn and I think potato were from South America so someone somewhere took tomatoes, potatoes and corn to Europe.
Corn is a staple in Mexican cuisine(as it is throughout the Americas) and pasta is a staple in Italian cuisine..
Italians add olive oil to everything and Mexicans add lime..
The herbs Italians use are not part of Mexican cuisine..
The commonality seems to be tomatoes.
But olive oil is only a recent addition.. it was far too expensive for the average Italian so they used lard... same as the Thai... they use lard as well. They buy pork bellies, roast them until all the fat comes out... sit around in rings (the women), eat the crackle and use the lard in cooking over the next month... I know bc I used to sit with them and watch what they did...
Thai like lime as well...
Corn or whole wheat.. or brown rice and potato are the complex carbs... that's the difference in the nations really. Lemon and olive oil is the traditional salad dressing of Europe... or Mediterranean Europe at least.
So I just looked up Black Turtle Beans in Wiki and that bean is native to the Americas wiki says..
"The black turtle bean is a small, shiny variety of the common bean (Phaseolus vulgaris) especially popular in Latin American cuisine, though it can also be found in the Cajun and Creole cuisines of south Louisiana. Like most common beans, it is native to the Americas, but has been introduced around the world. It is also used in East Indian cooking, Punjabi cuisine, and in Maharshtrian cuisine, it is known as Kala Ghevada. It is used interchangeably with vigna mungo (black gram) in countries such as the United States. The black turtle bean is often simply called the black bean (frijoles negros, zaragoza, judía negra, poroto negro, or caraota o habichuela negra in Spanish; and feijão preto in Portuguese), although this terminology can cause confusion with other black beans."
While its different than the OP. This article made me think of the title "two fools meeting"
Actress and liberal activist Debra Messing apologized this week after her Instagram photo of cupcakes decorated as vulvas offended members of the trans community.
The "Will & Grace" star celebrated International Women's Day on Friday by posting a photo showing a dozen cupcakes decorated as vulvas in varying colors, shapes and sizes.
"Powerful, beautiful, and sweet," Ms. Messing wrote.
The actress later amended the post after members of the trans community apparently complained.
"I want to apologize to my trans sisters," Ms. Messing wrote. "This photo was supposed to be light, & sassy. The first thing I thought when I saw this photo was 'wow how wonderful. Each one is unique in color and shape and size.'
"The porn industry has perpetuated this myth of what a 'beautiful' vagina looks like and as a result there are women who feel shame or insecure about the shape of the vulva," she continued. "I loved that this picture said 'every single one is beautiful and unique and that's powerful.' I did not, however, think 'but there are innumerable beautiful, unique and powerful women who don't have a vagina.' And I SHOULD have. And for that I am so so sorry.[/quote] :crazy: when crazies meet