Title: the police thread
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2019, 12:33:13 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2019, 12:33:13 AM
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2019, 12:39:57 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2019, 12:39:57 AM
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Gaon on February 20, 2019, 01:05:28 AM
Post by: Gaon on February 20, 2019, 01:05:28 AM
LOW PAY IS THE NO. 1 COMPLAINT EXPRESSED BY POLICE OFFICERS
Long hours without overtime means many are earning less than the minimum wage.
Police minister says border cops to receive pay on par with combat soldiers
Gilad Erdan's promise of higher wages comes as unit takes frontline role against Jerusalem, West Bank attacks
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Frood on February 20, 2019, 02:07:21 AM
Post by: Frood on February 20, 2019, 02:07:21 AM
I haven't seen any speed traps since this extreme cold snap started.Quote from: "Shen Li"
They're a delicate lot.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2019, 02:24:48 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2019, 02:24:48 AM
I haven't seen any speed traps since this extreme cold snap started.Quote from: "Shen Li"
They're a delicate lot.
It has been very cold though.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Frood on February 20, 2019, 02:31:40 AM
Post by: Frood on February 20, 2019, 02:31:40 AM
I haven't seen any speed traps since this extreme cold snap started.Quote from: "Shen Li"
They're a delicate lot.
It has been very cold though.
:laugh:
When it's very hot or very rainy here, they do the same.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Odinson on February 20, 2019, 09:49:25 AM
Post by: Odinson on February 20, 2019, 09:49:25 AM
He was wearing a seat-belt.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2019, 10:33:56 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2019, 10:33:56 AM
Friend of mine got a ticket for not wearing a seat-belt...Quote from: "Odinson"
He was wearing a seat-belt.
Than how can he get a ticket for not wearing a seat belt?
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Frood on February 20, 2019, 10:36:10 AM
Post by: Frood on February 20, 2019, 10:36:10 AM
The moment I got down the driveway, put on my seatbelt, and hit the public road, was when I got pulled over and fined for not wearing a seatbelt. The fine was was huge. If I could have slit his throat with my car keys, poured the contents of my engine's motor oil down the gasping air hole, then turd on his retinas while he begged for medical help, I wouldn't have called anyone.
Total POS. Tried to reason with the idiot but the police employ the most unreasonable and moronic of idiots.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2019, 10:42:26 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2019, 10:42:26 AM
I got a photo radar ticket for driving over the speed limit in a construction zone.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Frood on February 20, 2019, 10:46:02 AM
Post by: Frood on February 20, 2019, 10:46:02 AM
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Odinson on February 20, 2019, 10:56:09 AM
Post by: Odinson on February 20, 2019, 10:56:09 AM
Friend of mine got a ticket for not wearing a seat-belt...Quote from: "Odinson"
He was wearing a seat-belt.
Than how can he get a ticket for not wearing a seat belt?
Because the cops didnt see it..
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2019, 10:56:53 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2019, 10:56:53 AM
Bet you were going with the flow.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
I didn't know the expressway was under construction with reduced speed limits until I was in it..
And, I got a ticket in the mail about ten days later.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Frood on February 20, 2019, 11:08:47 AM
Post by: Frood on February 20, 2019, 11:08:47 AM
Bet you were going with the flow.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
I didn't know the expressway was under construction with reduced speed limits until I was in it..
And, I got a ticket in the mail about ten days later.
That's a common trick they do to get revenue notches on their belts. They play with confusions on signage.
An area or straightaway can be marked down but the side roads don't get signage for that. So you merge onto the main with standard posted speeds and get pinged distantly days later in the mail because there were no changed traffic signs between the moment you entered the main, traveled awhile down it, before you encounter a change speed sign.
It's why I record onboard these days. I'm tired of badged thieves lying.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2019, 11:09:55 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2019, 11:09:55 AM
Bet you were going with the flow.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
I didn't know the expressway was under construction with reduced speed limits until I was in it..
And, I got a ticket in the mail about ten days later.
That's a common trick they do to get revenue notches on their belts. They play with confusions on signage.
An area or straightaway can be marked down but the side roads don't get signage for that. So you merge onto the main with standard posted speeds and get pinged distantly days later in the mail because there were no changed traffic signs between the moment you entered the main, traveled awhile down it, before you encounter a change speed sign.
It's why I record onboard these days. I'm tired of badged thieves lying.
That's municipalities raking in cash. Cops have nothing to do with that.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Odinson on February 20, 2019, 11:14:36 AM
Post by: Odinson on February 20, 2019, 11:14:36 AM
The speed-limit drops from 100km/h to 60km/h and there is a camera within 50 meters..
Many times the cameras are hidden behind curves..
And we are probably the only nation that counts speeding-tickets as budgeted income.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Frood on February 20, 2019, 11:17:42 AM
Post by: Frood on February 20, 2019, 11:17:42 AM
Bet you were going with the flow.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
I didn't know the expressway was under construction with reduced speed limits until I was in it..
And, I got a ticket in the mail about ten days later.
That's a common trick they do to get revenue notches on their belts. They play with confusions on signage.
An area or straightaway can be marked down but the side roads don't get signage for that. So you merge onto the main with standard posted speeds and get pinged distantly days later in the mail because there were no changed traffic signs between the moment you entered the main, traveled awhile down it, before you encounter a change speed sign.
It's why I record onboard these days. I'm tired of badged thieves lying.
That's municipalities raking in cash. Cops have nothing to do with that.
They do here.
I hit one just today. They had one of those remote plate scanners-cameras half a K set up along the road by their unmanned car. Only 4 cops down the road. Two lots of two. One pair on the side waving their fat fingers at motorists to pull into a side road car park and the other pair as quiet backup.
Total road construction stretch. Up and down from 40kph to 80kph for 20k's. There was no way anyone coming from a side road could know NOT to follow the normal speed signs.
I hope those POS cops have strokes tonight.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Blurt on February 20, 2019, 11:51:43 AM
Post by: Blurt on February 20, 2019, 11:51:43 AM
They are charged with protecting the safety of citizens who then turn on them and spit in their eye for doing so, just because those citizens believe their fundamental right to break "petty" laws have been violated.
Wear your goddamned seatbelt, ffs! If a cop stops you, and tickets you, for having broken some law, smile, apologize, accept the fine, and then thank her for keeping the community a safe place for all.
And this is to say nothing of the dangers they face every day, dangers that are potentially life-ending. I've come to know many cops in my line of work. Their overriding concern has always been that everyone be safe and that no one get hurt (at least not any more than they already are at the time of crisis). Of the cops I've known, three are no longer with us; two have committed suicide and one was shot point blank in the stomach when she stopped a car with a broken tail light.
My only gripe is that the profession sometimes draws, as it does in the military, individuals who enjoy imposing their authority over others in a way that isn't conducive to de-escalation and peaceful resolution. But such individuals are the exception rather than the rule.
For the most part, cops are good people.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Frood on February 20, 2019, 11:57:09 AM
Post by: Frood on February 20, 2019, 11:57:09 AM
They're scumbags.
They steal from and assault peaceful people.
The largest street gang in human history and you're an enabler. Grow a spine.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Zetsu on February 20, 2019, 12:15:47 PM
Post by: Zetsu on February 20, 2019, 12:15:47 PM
Police officers have one of the toughest jobs ever; they deal constantly with distressed individuals and with idiots who believe that "petty" laws should be no law at all.Quote from: "Blurt"
They are charged with protecting the safety of citizens who then turn on them and spit in their eye for doing so, just because those citizens believe their fundamental right to break "petty" laws have been violated.
Wear your goddamned seatbelt, ffs! If a cop stops you, and tickets you, for having broken some law, smile, apologize, accept the fine, and then thank her for keeping the community a safe place for all.
And this is to say nothing of the dangers they face every day, dangers that are potentially life-ending. I've come to know many cops in my line of work. Their overriding concern has always been that everyone be safe and that no one get hurt (at least not any more than they already are at the time of crisis). Of the cops I've known, three are no longer with us; two have committed suicide and one was shot point blank in the stomach when she stopped a car with a broken tail light.
My only gripe is that the profession sometimes draws, as it does in the military, individuals who enjoy imposing their authority over others in a way that isn't conducive to de-escalation and peaceful resolution. But such individuals are the exception rather than the rule.
For the most part, cops are good people.
Well said Blurt, well said.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Frood on February 20, 2019, 12:17:45 PM
Post by: Frood on February 20, 2019, 12:17:45 PM
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Zetsu on February 20, 2019, 12:21:25 PM
Post by: Zetsu on February 20, 2019, 12:21:25 PM
Maybe, if your cage door is open, but you're too afraid to cross its threshold.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
*inserts in rear end*
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Frood on February 20, 2019, 12:26:57 PM
Post by: Frood on February 20, 2019, 12:26:57 PM
They'll accept virtually any moron.
You must have not risen above their bottom line bell curve.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Zetsu on February 20, 2019, 12:37:12 PM
Post by: Zetsu on February 20, 2019, 12:37:12 PM
:laugh: So you always dreamed of becoming a street gang member but didn't make the cut?
They'll accept virtually any moron.
You must have not risen above their bottom line bell curve.
Deeds, not words Dinky is why the police will always be respected, now go cry in the corner troll.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Frood on February 20, 2019, 12:41:06 PM
Post by: Frood on February 20, 2019, 12:41:06 PM
Do your lips and jaw hurt?
NOM NOM NOM NOM... eh?
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on February 20, 2019, 01:05:51 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on February 20, 2019, 01:05:51 PM
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on February 20, 2019, 01:08:33 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on February 20, 2019, 01:08:33 PM
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Gaon on February 20, 2019, 02:28:21 PM
Post by: Gaon on February 20, 2019, 02:28:21 PM
Police officers have one of the toughest jobs ever; they deal constantly with distressed individuals and with idiots who believe that "petty" laws should be no law at all.Quote from: "Blurt"
They are charged with protecting the safety of citizens who then turn on them and spit in their eye for doing so, just because those citizens believe their fundamental right to break "petty" laws have been violated.
Wear your goddamned seatbelt, ffs! If a cop stops you, and tickets you, for having broken some law, smile, apologize, accept the fine, and then thank her for keeping the community a safe place for all.
And this is to say nothing of the dangers they face every day, dangers that are potentially life-ending. I've come to know many cops in my line of work. Their overriding concern has always been that everyone be safe and that no one get hurt (at least not any more than they already are at the time of crisis). Of the cops I've known, three are no longer with us; two have committed suicide and one was shot point blank in the stomach when she stopped a car with a broken tail light.
My only gripe is that the profession sometimes draws, as it does in the military, individuals who enjoy imposing their authority over others in a way that isn't conducive to de-escalation and peaceful resolution. But such individuals are the exception rather than the rule.
For the most part, cops are good people.
Well said Blurt, well said.ac_drinks
It sure is.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2019, 05:06:39 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2019, 05:06:39 PM
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Bricktop on February 20, 2019, 06:01:20 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 20, 2019, 06:01:20 PM
A police thread?? Why?Quote from: "Velvet"
A good question.
I await the answer with interest.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2019, 06:06:35 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2019, 06:06:35 PM
A police thread?? Why?Quote from: "Velvet"
A good question.
I await the answer with interest.
The rationale is the same as when SCOUSE was here..
Rather than multiple threads about the same topic, we could put all posts here..
I gather you are not a fan of the idea?
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Bricktop on February 20, 2019, 06:30:32 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 20, 2019, 06:30:32 PM
Then, you think it a good idea to open another thread inviting him right in to continue his idiocy.
If it's such a good idea, why not discuss another occupations? I even went to the trouble of starting the conversations going for you.
Let's be clear. Only one member here has the credibility to comment with any authority on the subject. No-one else. So, I'm perplexed as to why you think anyone can discuss the issue with any authority.
The only reason I can see for the OP is to provide Freud with another opportunity to troll, shortly after his last effort was RR'd.
Unless, of course, you feel the members here are interested in the various occupations of others, in which case, kindly restore my threads to the main forum, so everyone can be included.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2019, 07:55:58 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2019, 07:55:58 PM
===Only one member here has the credibility to comment with any authority on the subject. ===Quote from: "Bricktop"
OMIGOD, what tf am I reading here?
Who might that unique member be, I wonder.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Odinson on February 20, 2019, 07:57:32 PM
Post by: Odinson on February 20, 2019, 07:57:32 PM
It would be all over the news if there was an off-duty cop at the scene but he didnt do anything.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Bricktop on February 20, 2019, 08:08:05 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 20, 2019, 08:08:05 PM
===Only one member here has the credibility to comment with any authority on the subject. ===Quote from: "Bricktop"
OMIGOD, what tf am I reading here?
Who might that unique member be, I wonder.
That would be me.
And though you may consider yourself, for example, eminently qualified to offer an opinion, you aren't.
So don't.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2019, 08:18:28 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2019, 08:18:28 PM
===Only one member here has the credibility to comment with any authority on the subject. ===Quote from: "Bricktop"
OMIGOD, what tf am I reading here?
Who might that unique member be, I wonder.
That would be me.
And though you may consider yourself, for example, eminently qualified to offer an opinion, you aren't.
So don't.
First, have you noticed that you've successfully derailed Fash's thread? I hope someone moves this tangent (including my part of it) to the appropriate place.
Secondly, if I follow your logic here, what in hell are you doing on my music thread?
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Odinson on February 20, 2019, 08:22:01 PM
Post by: Odinson on February 20, 2019, 08:22:01 PM
Either to your house or to the brig.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Bricktop on February 20, 2019, 09:22:33 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 20, 2019, 09:22:33 PM
First, have you noticed that you've successfully derailed Fash's thread? I hope someone moves this tangent (including my part of it) to the appropriate place.
Secondly, if I follow your logic here, what in hell are you doing on my music thread?
Derailed?
I was not the initiator of the query regarding its bona fides. Nonetheless, it is and remains a fair question, given recent events.
Secondly, I am discussing music. I'm pretty sure I didn't raise the issue of Trump's wall in there. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Now, I have a question.
Aren't you a little old to be a troll?
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Frood on February 20, 2019, 09:26:37 PM
Post by: Frood on February 20, 2019, 09:26:37 PM
===Only one member here has the credibility to comment with any authority on the subject. ===Quote from: "Bricktop"
OMIGOD, what tf am I reading here?
Who might that unique member be, I wonder.
I too am curious. Fash's brother doesn't post here and all we've got is some washed up former cop from decades ago who throws fits online when younger women don't flash their boobs at him on cam.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Bricktop on February 20, 2019, 09:36:44 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 20, 2019, 09:36:44 PM
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2019, 10:16:05 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2019, 10:16:05 PM
First, have you noticed that you've successfully derailed Fash's thread? I hope someone moves this tangent (including my part of it) to the appropriate place.
Secondly, if I follow your logic here, what in hell are you doing on my music thread?
Derailed?
I was not the initiator of the query regarding its bona fides. Nonetheless, it is and remains a fair question, given recent events.
Secondly, I am discussing music. I'm pretty sure I didn't raise the issue of Trump's wall in there. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Now, I have a question.
Aren't you a little old to be a troll?ac_umm
First, the derailment occurred when you shifted from whining about the forum owner's choice to make this thread and adopted the posture that you alone were qualified to talk about the police.
Secondly, according to your logic you are not qualified to discuss music since you are not and have never been a professional musician.
Third, it's really weak to claim that everyone who disagrees with you is a troll.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Bricktop on February 20, 2019, 10:54:17 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 20, 2019, 10:54:17 PM
First, have you noticed that you've successfully derailed Fash's thread? I hope someone moves this tangent (including my part of it) to the appropriate place.
Secondly, if I follow your logic here, what in hell are you doing on my music thread?
Derailed?
I was not the initiator of the query regarding its bona fides. Nonetheless, it is and remains a fair question, given recent events.
Secondly, I am discussing music. I'm pretty sure I didn't raise the issue of Trump's wall in there. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Now, I have a question.
Aren't you a little old to be a troll?ac_umm
First, the derailment occurred when you shifted from whining about the forum owner's choice to make this thread and adopted the posture that you alone were qualified to talk about the police.
Secondly, according to your logic you are not qualified to discuss music since you are not and have never been a professional musician.
Third, it's really weak to claim that everyone who disagrees with you is a troll.
1. I AM the only person qualified to talk about the Police. Period. Thus, I am equally entitled to ask why this thread was started. What is the OP seeking?
2. Music is not a profession. It is a form of entertainment AIMED towards those who listen. Thus, those who listen are quite capable of commenting on what they hear. If you were discussing the relative merits of a specific guitar, or amp system, I would have no valid opinion. THAT would require a person experienced in such matters.
3. I do not accuse you of trolling because you disagree. I accuse you of trolling because that is what you do. Denial would insult us both.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Frood on February 20, 2019, 11:17:35 PM
Post by: Frood on February 20, 2019, 11:17:35 PM
The taxpayer pays police departments to faithfully execute their wishes as represented by politicians who campaign on policies in order to be elected.
That makes John Q Public well qualified to discuss politics and policing.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Bricktop on February 21, 2019, 03:12:47 AM
Post by: Bricktop on February 21, 2019, 03:12:47 AM
It says "police". Rather specific to those of us who understand grammar and linguistics.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: caskur on February 21, 2019, 03:27:10 AM
Post by: caskur on February 21, 2019, 03:27:10 AM
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: caskur on February 21, 2019, 03:34:43 AM
Post by: caskur on February 21, 2019, 03:34:43 AM
They tried to recruit my stupid husband but he rocked up at Perth headquarters at the age of 33... and was dismissed, (the cut off was 32 years old), then Mr Plod at headquarters said, he could be a Fed, (their cut off age limit was 34) but he would have to fly all over the continent a lot and carry a gun... Kurt's religious convictions made him think twice about carrying a gun.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Frood on February 21, 2019, 03:49:34 AM
Post by: Frood on February 21, 2019, 03:49:34 AM
The OP does not say "politics", or "policing".Quote from: "Bricktop"
It says "police". Rather specific to those of us who understand grammar and linguistics.
Post whatever you can think of about law enforcement....good, bad or indifferent.Quote from: "Fashionista"
It also says law enforcement, dumb dumb.
You don't get to decide who and what gets discussed in an umbrella thread which clearly deals with all aspects of police, policing, law enforcement, the taxpayer (ultimate boss of all cops) or why cops have small willies and talk out of their arses.
/slap
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Anonymous on February 21, 2019, 10:28:55 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 21, 2019, 10:28:55 AM
=== or why cops have small willies and talk out of their arses.
/slap
While I agree with your post in nearly all respects, I'd rather you said "why SOME cops have small willies and talk out of their asses."
Perhaps even "MANY," but that would be debatable.
Even Sarah Silverman avoids the blanket condemnation.
Title: Re: Japan's Schindler
Post by: Odinson on February 21, 2019, 12:23:15 PM
Post by: Odinson on February 21, 2019, 12:23:15 PM
I block parked my car last summer.Quote from: "Odinson"
There was a legitimate parking spot but it was right in front of a apartment building garage door.
The apartment building is new and the tiling on the street indicates that there is a parking spot there..
I wasnt observing the surroundings.. I was just seeing the empty spot.
Did you mean to post this in the police thread?
Not at first but then I started thinking this might belong there.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Anonymous on February 21, 2019, 12:35:52 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 21, 2019, 12:35:52 PM
It was only a week ago that a similar thread by Freud was rightly binned as one of his trolls.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Then, you think it a good idea to open another thread inviting him right in to continue his idiocy.
If it's such a good idea, why not discuss another occupations? I even went to the trouble of starting the conversations going for you.
Let's be clear. Only one member here has the credibility to comment with any authority on the subject. No-one else. So, I'm perplexed as to why you think anyone can discuss the issue with any authority.
The only reason I can see for the OP is to provide Freud with another opportunity to troll, shortly after his last effort was RR'd.
Unless, of course, you feel the members here are interested in the various occupations of others, in which case, kindly restore my threads to the main forum, so everyone can be included.
Law enforcement should be open to discussion, unless the thread is a deliberate troll..
I didn't start this thread to troll anybody..
It's true, you are the only person here that can talk about the subject from experience just like IHJ is the only person here who talk about train safety from personal experience and I'll defer to both of you..
But, those of us who are not employed as police officers or train engineers have an interest in both topics..
Frankly, I'd love to read some of your colourful stories from your police career.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Anonymous on February 21, 2019, 01:41:29 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 21, 2019, 01:41:29 PM
Additional penalties include a three-day licence suspension and three demerit points. And that's just the beginning.
"It's really going to cost you, but there's a reason for that," said Const. Sean Ralph of the Ottawa police.
"It's a major infraction right up there with impaired driving."
For a second conviction within five years, the maximum fine rises to $2,000, plus six demerit points and a seven-day driver's licence suspension.
More convictions within that five-year period would be an even bigger hit to the wallet at a fine up to $3,000, six demerit points and a 30-day suspension.
On top of that, convicted motorists can expect their insurance rates to go up.
I know Ontario's tough new distracted driving laws are not law enforcement, but this laws will be enforced.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Odinson on February 21, 2019, 04:38:35 PM
Post by: Odinson on February 21, 2019, 04:38:35 PM
You concentrate on the phone call..
Humans are really bad at doing 2 things at once.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Anonymous on February 21, 2019, 04:44:51 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 21, 2019, 04:44:51 PM
Even with the bluetooth speaker thing in the cars, you still dont concentrate on the road..Quote from: "Odinson"
You concentrate on the phone call..
Humans are really bad at doing 2 things at once.
But, at least it doesn't take your hands off of the steering wheel.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Bricktop on February 21, 2019, 05:03:35 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 21, 2019, 05:03:35 PM
But, those of us who are not employed as police officers or train engineers have an interest in both topics..
Frankly, I'd love to read some of your colourful stories from your police career.
Then why were my threads on those issues dumped in RR??
Which colourful stories would you like? The carnage of fatal accidents? 14 year old hookers? Juvenile car thieves? Street riots? Pub brawls? Domestic violence? Rapes?
Let me know your preference. There are so many.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Anonymous on February 21, 2019, 05:06:08 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 21, 2019, 05:06:08 PM
But, those of us who are not employed as police officers or train engineers have an interest in both topics..
Frankly, I'd love to read some of your colourful stories from your police career.
Then why were my threads on those issues dumped in RR??
Which colourful stories would you like? The carnage of fatal accidents? 14 year old hookers? Juvenile car thieves? Street riots? Pub brawls? Domestic violence? Rapes?
Let me know your preference. There are so many.
I was thinking more of where you think you made a difference.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Bricktop on February 21, 2019, 05:10:45 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 21, 2019, 05:10:45 PM
Police officers observe, arrest or report, and the matter is referred to a court to be resolved. Courts, invariably ruled by former lawyers who themselves are typically leftists, are often hostile to the police and regard the criminal as the victim (a central tenet of socialist judicial theory).
The judicial system is incapable of making a difference. It merely recycles offenders.
And remember, for every ONE that appears before a court, another 9 are never identified (clear up rates in western nations are around 1 in 10 reported crimes).
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Anonymous on February 21, 2019, 05:31:07 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 21, 2019, 05:31:07 PM
I made no difference. No police officer has, or can. It needs to be emphasised thatQuote from: "Bricktop"the police do not administer the sanctions on a convicted criminal.
Police officers observe, arrest or report, and the matter is referred to a court to be resolved. Courts, invariably ruled by former lawyers who themselves are typically leftists, are often hostile to the police and regard the criminal as the victim (a central tenet of socialist judicial theory).
The judicial system is incapable of making a difference. It merely recycles offenders.
And remember, for every ONE that appears before a court, another 9 are never identified (clear up rates in western nations are around 1 in 10 reported crimes).
I appreciate your reply to Fash.
It's come to my attention that here in the states, the police DO (all too often) end up carrying out extra-judicial executions. This troubles me a great deal. I consider that a "sanction" of an extreme sort.
On second thought, not always specifically the cops. Sometimes it's jail staff or paddy wagon drivers.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Bricktop on February 21, 2019, 05:52:56 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 21, 2019, 05:52:56 PM
As you well know, police officers have no authority to administer sanctions. There is a reasonable argument that handing out instant traffic fines is counter to that premise, but that is tempered by the fact that the officer cannot modify the mandated fine, and the driver can have the matter referred to a court if they dispute the offence. (It is utterly inappropriate that challenging a traffic fine in a court incurs more expense than had the driver paid the original expiation fee).
Police officers that overstep their bounds by administering "punishment" outside the law deserve to be charged and dismissed.
I say that full in the knowledge that on occasions, there are mitigating circumstances to over zealous policing, but that is not an excuse for a criminal act.
It happens everywhere, because police are human beings too, and suffer the same frailities as everyone else. Moreso, in some cases.
I don't know about the US, but in Oz, the number of complaints of assault by police have reduced substantially. This is in large part the "feminisation" of the police force in general, and better training and equipment.
Things have changed. When I was a young police officer, a certain level of "fire with fire" was deemed acceptable...even preferable.
Of course, those were the days when teachers were allowed to assault students as well.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Anonymous on February 21, 2019, 07:20:57 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 21, 2019, 07:20:57 PM
I made no difference. No police officer has, or can. It needs to be emphasised that the police do not administer the sanctions on a convicted criminal.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Police officers observe, arrest or report, and the matter is referred to a court to be resolved. Courts, invariably ruled by former lawyers who themselves are typically leftists, are often hostile to the police and regard the criminal as the victim (a central tenet of socialist judicial theory).
The judicial system is incapable of making a difference. It merely recycles offenders.
And remember, for every ONE that appears before a court, another 9 are never identified (clear up rates in western nations are around 1 in 10 reported crimes).
But, at least you got some criminals off of the streets at least temporarily..
You did your part.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Bricktop on February 21, 2019, 07:27:53 PM
Post by: Bricktop on February 21, 2019, 07:27:53 PM
One of the reason I decided to change careers is because I realised that despite the best efforts of good police officers, Governments take crime control as seriously as they take protestors. Which is to say, not at all.
For example, when a government says speed cameras are safety devices, they are talking garbage. They raise revenue, and governments hope to raise enough to pay for the police force, making it revenue neutral.
Any other justification is a lie.
Safer roads save lives. Better driver training saves lives. Removing criminal drivers from driving saves lives. But these are COSTS.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Frood on February 21, 2019, 07:31:26 PM
Post by: Frood on February 21, 2019, 07:31:26 PM
For example, when a government says speed cameras are safety devices, they are talking garbage. They raise revenueQuote from: "Bricktop"
Finally, something we can agree on.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: caskur on February 22, 2019, 02:46:10 AM
Post by: caskur on February 22, 2019, 02:46:10 AM
Police officers that overstep their bounds by administering "punishment" outside the law deserve to be charged and dismissed.
I say that full in the knowledge that on occasions, there are mitigating circumstances to over zealous policing, but that is not an excuse for a criminal act.
It happens everywhere, because police are human beings too, and suffer the same frailities as everyone else. Moreso, in some cases.
After what happen to Australian Veternarian Justine Damondin in the USA, Somalians or anything first generation out of Africa shouldn't be allowed to be a cop. Obviously Americans are so dumb, they give Africans guns.... OMG don't they ever watch Al Jazeera?
Cops in the USA are VERY VERY different to Ozzy cops. My sister-in-kaw was a passenger in a car going from the east coast of the USA to the west cost when the car she was in got pulled over by USA cops. Guns were pulled. She said it was the scariest thing she'd ever experienced...
Who is scared of Australian cops? Seriously. How many times do you see Ozzie cops pull guns on drivers? I'm talking firearms not speed guns...lol
It's way scarier these days being a cop or even a prison warder. With Meth drugs in the mix, all situations can become explosive very quickly.
Title: Re: the police thread
Post by: Odinson on February 22, 2019, 08:04:53 AM
Post by: Odinson on February 22, 2019, 08:04:53 AM
In America, the negroes shoot cops when the cop just asks for an ID..