Title: Japan's Schindler
Post by: Gaon on February 20, 2019, 01:14:37 AM
Post by: Gaon on February 20, 2019, 01:14:37 AM
SON OF 'JAPANESE SCHINDLER' DEDICATES MEMORIAL IN JERUSALEM
Roughly 6,000 Jews were saved by Chiune Sugihara, Japanese ambassador to Lithuania in 1940, who granted them visas to travel to Japan and escape the Nazis.
The story of Oskar Schindler, the German industrialist who saved hundreds of Jews from death in the Holocaust and honored by Yad Vashem as a "Righteous Among the Nations," is one of the most well known episodes in Holocaust history.
Less well known is the story of the "Japanese Schindler," Chiune Sugihara, who according to estimates saved roughly 6,000 Lithuanian Jews simply by granting them visas.
ugihara was Japan's ambassador to Lithuania in 1940, when the Germans invaded the country. Jews came to the Japanese consulate in the hope of obtaining visas to escape the Nazis. The Japanese government denied Sugihara's request to grant them visas, but he decided to disobey the order and grant them anyway.
He was able to print and stamp about 2,000 family visas, on which multiple people could travel, before he was forced to leave Kaunas (at that time the Lithuanian capital). According to witnesses, he kept writing visas on his way to the train, and when he ran out of time he threw papers stamped with the consulate seal and his signature out the train window, so that refugees in the following crowd could write the visas on their own.
Once he returned to Japan, he was fired by the government for disobediance.
A report on Israel's Kan News followed Sugihara's son, Nobuki, at a dedication of a plaque for his father at the Chamber of the Holocaust, a small museum on Mt. Zion in Jerusalem.
The elder Sugihara was recognized as a Righteous Among the Nations in 1985. He refused a monetary award from the Israeli government, but he agreed to accept a scholarship for his son to study in Jerusalem.
"My father didn't tell me anything [about his work in Lithuania] when I was a child," said Nobuki in Hebrew in an interview with Kan. He was 19 years old when he discovered what his father did.
After asking his father what he thought when he was granting the visas, Chiune replied that he only hoped that one or two Jewish refugees would escape from the situation in Europe.
Title: Re: Japan's Schindler
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2019, 01:38:33 AM
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2019, 01:38:33 AM
Ho Feng Shan was like a Chinese Schindler
Title: Re: Japan's Schindler
Post by: Odinson on February 20, 2019, 11:23:34 AM
Post by: Odinson on February 20, 2019, 11:23:34 AM
Title: Re: Japan's Schindler
Post by: caskur on February 20, 2019, 12:48:19 PM
Post by: caskur on February 20, 2019, 12:48:19 PM
Japs were disgusting...
I don't know how I feel about them but my grandma's generation couldn't stand them...
They murdered 200 nurses in Darwin... so for that act alone, they shouldn't be forgiven...
They just marched the 200 nurses into the sea and machine gunned them.
My brother went to Japan last year for a holiday...
Title: Re: Japan's Schindler
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on February 20, 2019, 01:02:36 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on February 20, 2019, 01:02:36 PM
It is not as interesting as a german doing it..Quote from: "Odinson"
Of course you know that is a bigoted comment just because he's a slanted-eyed person. Well, I'm told Germans stink because they are uncircumcised.
Title: Re: Japan's Schindler
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on February 20, 2019, 01:03:38 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on February 20, 2019, 01:03:38 PM
Title: Re: Japan's Schindler
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on February 20, 2019, 01:03:59 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on February 20, 2019, 01:03:59 PM
Title: Re: Japan's Schindler
Post by: Odinson on February 20, 2019, 01:24:49 PM
Post by: Odinson on February 20, 2019, 01:24:49 PM
It is not as interesting as a german doing it..Quote from: "Odinson"
Of course you know that is a bigoted comment just because he's a slanted-eyed person. Well, I'm told Germans stink because they are uncircumcised.
The only thing that is so fascinating about Oskar Schindler is that he was the "righteous man" among his ilk.
People like reading stories about germans who spared some jews.
Japanese or any other ethnicity doing it just aint as interesting.
Title: Re: Japan's Schindler
Post by: Gaon on February 20, 2019, 02:25:34 PM
Post by: Gaon on February 20, 2019, 02:25:34 PM
Well, I hated the Japs for a long time growing up as a kid. They beheaded my great grandfather whose house they wanted to use as a headquarters.Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"
That's awful. And I am not defending the Axis power, Japan. But, in the war machine that was the Empire of Japan, at least one person risked serious consequences to save lives.
Title: Re: Japan's Schindler
Post by: caskur on February 20, 2019, 03:05:01 PM
Post by: caskur on February 20, 2019, 03:05:01 PM
Acts of compassion were displayed by both sides..
But gypsies were bad and still are today.
I'd never bother saving one.
If you're wondering why, the reason is, they're steep into child pornography and child exploitation. Unforgivable.
Title: Re: Japan's Schindler
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2019, 03:29:39 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2019, 03:29:39 PM
Well civilians aren't armed so are completely defenseless against the military so any act of saving any civilians was an act of compassion.Quote from: "caskur"
Acts of compassion were displayed by both sides..
But gypsies were bad and still are today.
I'd never bother saving one.
If you're wondering why, the reason is, they're steep into child pornography and child exploitation. Unforgivable.
I'm sure there are good Roma people.
Title: Re: Japan's Schindler
Post by: Odinson on February 20, 2019, 03:44:12 PM
Post by: Odinson on February 20, 2019, 03:44:12 PM
Well civilians aren't armed so are completely defenseless against the military so any act of saving any civilians was an act of compassion.Quote from: "caskur"
Acts of compassion were displayed by both sides..
But gypsies were bad and still are today.
I'd never bother saving one.
If you're wondering why, the reason is, they're steep into child pornography and child exploitation. Unforgivable.
I'm sure there are good Roma people.
Title: Re: Japan's Schindler
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2019, 04:54:49 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2019, 04:54:49 PM
A fascinating tidbit of history not widely known outside of Israel.Quote from: "Gaon"
SON OF 'JAPANESE SCHINDLER' DEDICATES MEMORIAL IN JERUSALEM
Roughly 6,000 Jews were saved by Chiune Sugihara, Japanese ambassador to Lithuania in 1940, who granted them visas to travel to Japan and escape the Nazis.
The story of Oskar Schindler, the German industrialist who saved hundreds of Jews from death in the Holocaust and honored by Yad Vashem as a "Righteous Among the Nations," is one of the most well known episodes in Holocaust history.
Less well known is the story of the "Japanese Schindler," Chiune Sugihara, who according to estimates saved roughly 6,000 Lithuanian Jews simply by granting them visas.
ugihara was Japan's ambassador to Lithuania in 1940, when the Germans invaded the country. Jews came to the Japanese consulate in the hope of obtaining visas to escape the Nazis. The Japanese government denied Sugihara's request to grant them visas, but he decided to disobey the order and grant them anyway.
He was able to print and stamp about 2,000 family visas, on which multiple people could travel, before he was forced to leave Kaunas (at that time the Lithuanian capital). According to witnesses, he kept writing visas on his way to the train, and when he ran out of time he threw papers stamped with the consulate seal and his signature out the train window, so that refugees in the following crowd could write the visas on their own.
Once he returned to Japan, he was fired by the government for disobediance.
A report on Israel's Kan News followed Sugihara's son, Nobuki, at a dedication of a plaque for his father at the Chamber of the Holocaust, a small museum on Mt. Zion in Jerusalem.
The elder Sugihara was recognized as a Righteous Among the Nations in 1985. He refused a monetary award from the Israeli government, but he agreed to accept a scholarship for his son to study in Jerusalem.
"My father didn't tell me anything [about his work in Lithuania] when I was a child," said Nobuki in Hebrew in an interview with Kan. He was 19 years old when he discovered what his father did.
After asking his father what he thought when he was granting the visas, Chiune replied that he only hoped that one or two Jewish refugees would escape from the situation in Europe.https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Son-of-Japanese-Schindler-dedicates-memorial-in-Jerusalem-580814
A great human story.
Title: Re: Japan's Schindler
Post by: Odinson on February 20, 2019, 05:49:50 PM
Post by: Odinson on February 20, 2019, 05:49:50 PM
Most of them cannot read or write.
They run all kinds of scams to get more welfare..
Gypsy families are tight and they pool in their gains from welfare scams, burglary, thievery etc.
They even double park...
Title: Re: Japan's Schindler
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2019, 06:09:11 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 20, 2019, 06:09:11 PM
Doing all kinds of dishonest labour is part of the gypsy culture..Quote from: "Odinson"
Most of them cannot read or write.
They run all kinds of scams to get more welfare..
Gypsy families are tight and they pool in their gains from welfare scams, burglary, thievery etc.They even double park...
Oh no.
Title: Re: Japan's Schindler
Post by: Odinson on February 20, 2019, 06:48:22 PM
Post by: Odinson on February 20, 2019, 06:48:22 PM
There was a legitimate parking spot but it was right in front of a apartment building garage door.
The apartment building is new and the tiling on the street indicates that there is a parking spot there..
I wasnt observing the surroundings.. I was just seeing the empty spot.
Title: Re: Japan's Schindler
Post by: Odinson on February 20, 2019, 06:50:36 PM
Post by: Odinson on February 20, 2019, 06:50:36 PM
I just said oops.
Title: Re: Japan's Schindler
Post by: JOE on February 21, 2019, 01:08:43 AM
Post by: JOE on February 21, 2019, 01:08:43 AM
I find the mere mention of that War to be extremely haunting.
Even though I wasn't born then, for some reason I feel as if I lived during that time in a previous life & was there to witness its horrors. Of all the wars I've studied or read about, this one seems to be the most terrifyingly real & e most tragic.
I feel badly for every civilian on either side who suffered & died in it.
Title: Re: Japan's Schindler
Post by: caskur on February 21, 2019, 02:18:57 AM
Post by: caskur on February 21, 2019, 02:18:57 AM
World War II was possibly the most savage war in the history of civilization.Quote from: "JOE"
I find the mere mention of that War to be extremely haunting.
Even though I wasn't born then, for some reason I feel as if I lived during that time in a previous life & was there to witness its horrors. Of all the wars I've studied or read about, this one seems to be the most terrifyingly real & e most tragic.
I feel badly for every civilian on either side who suffered & died in it.
Absolutely...
We're just seeing off people who lived through that time. Their numbers have greatly reduced...
A neighbour that lived next door was one of nine brothers that went to WW2... he was the only brother to return... probably died about 3 years ago. He was from South Australia.
The stories live all around us
.
It's a big deal remembering the fallen in Oz...
My brother is the currator of the Albany military museum. He got to meet Prince Charles and Camilla when they came over for Prince Charles birthday party ... it was a big deal to my mum....lol
Title: Re: Japan's Schindler
Post by: Anonymous on February 21, 2019, 12:15:01 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 21, 2019, 12:15:01 PM
I block parked my car last summer.Quote from: "Odinson"
There was a legitimate parking spot but it was right in front of a apartment building garage door.
The apartment building is new and the tiling on the street indicates that there is a parking spot there..
I wasnt observing the surroundings.. I was just seeing the empty spot.
Did you mean to post this in the police thread?
Title: Re: Japan's Schindler
Post by: Anonymous on February 21, 2019, 01:45:57 PM
Post by: Anonymous on February 21, 2019, 01:45:57 PM