Title: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Bricktop on March 06, 2019, 06:12:06 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 06, 2019, 06:12:06 PM
It seems he's in a big hole.
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Anonymous on March 06, 2019, 06:16:13 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 06, 2019, 06:16:13 PM
We don't often get news of the political to-ings and fro-ings in Canada, but lately our news channels have been reporting on your PM's current tribulations.Quote from: "Bricktop"
It seems he's in a big hole.
Do women there think he is dreamy or a dreamer.
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Bricktop on March 06, 2019, 06:31:35 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 06, 2019, 06:31:35 PM
The only news you get about Canada is usually via cable. But his attempts to pervert the cause of justice is getting press here.
Those that do know of him think he's a bigger twat than our own bumbling spacewasters.
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Anonymous on March 06, 2019, 06:36:36 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 06, 2019, 06:36:36 PM
Those that do know of him think he's a bigger twat than our own bumbling spacewasters.
They are right. Morrison is a brilliant leader compared to the destructive, idiotic wanker we have.
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Bricktop on March 06, 2019, 06:55:13 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 06, 2019, 06:55:13 PM
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Anonymous on March 06, 2019, 07:05:31 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 06, 2019, 07:05:31 PM
Whenever we get pissed at our leaders, we comfort ourselves by saying "at least he's not Trudeau".Quote from: "Bricktop"
I can't wait until we can say the same.
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: JOE on March 06, 2019, 07:51:32 PM
Post by: JOE on March 06, 2019, 07:51:32 PM
We don't often get news of the political to-ings and fro-ings in Canada, but lately our news channels have been reporting on your PM's current tribulations.Quote from: "Bricktop"
It seems he's in a big hole.
Y'know BT I'd rather not pass judgment on Trudeau yet until there is a formal inquiry into the matter.
The press in Canada often liked to blow things out of propoy
For example, There was a case of a Conservative leader named Patrick Brown who got accused of sexual harassment. Yet nothing has come from those allegations and the so called victims never came forward. They ruined a perfectly good man who should by now be the conservative premier of Ontario.
Another example there was a case of a Conservative senator named Mike Duffy who was accused of misusing finds from the public purse. Yet he was later exonerated.
There was also the case of a Socialist New Democratic premier named Glenn Clark who was accused taking bribes & using his office to grant inappropriate favors to his neighbor. Yet Clark was acquitted tho he was driven from office by these allegations.
So now we have another politician of yet another political party who's being accused of obstructing justice. But given the track record of the press in Canada, and others don't trust them. Just like they blew the story about the Conservative senator out of proportion I think this has happened once again.
And that bitch that Trudeau appointed she's angry cuz she got turfed from cabinet. She's dumping on Trudeau now. She wasn't even a very good Justice Minister anyways. She was in way over her head.
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Anonymous on March 06, 2019, 08:12:03 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 06, 2019, 08:12:03 PM
Next will be regret until finally an admission of bad judgment and remorse.
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Wazzzup on March 06, 2019, 09:17:29 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 06, 2019, 09:17:29 PM
Justin Trudeau has gone from denying any pressure on Judy Wilson-Raybould and calling her a liar to admitting he may have intervened, but no wrongdoing..Quote from: "Fashionista"
Next will be regret until finally an admission of bad judgment and remorse.
It looks to me like this is obstruction of justice which is against the law in Canada.. However, The national post discusses this and says what Trudeau did is unethical but probably not illegal.
I bet if Trump had done this the dems would try to impeach him over it.
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Anonymous on March 06, 2019, 09:31:17 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 06, 2019, 09:31:17 PM
This is getting some US coverage too.Quote from: "Wazzzup"Justin Trudeau has gone from denying any pressure on Judy Wilson-Raybould and calling her a liar to admitting he may have intervened, but no wrongdoing..Quote from: "Fashionista"
Next will be regret until finally an admission of bad judgment and remorse.
It looks to me like this is obstruction of justice which is against the law in Canada.. However, The national post discusses this and says what Trudeau did is unethical but probably not illegal.https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/lavscam-jody-wilson-raybould-jane-philpott
I bet if Trump had done this the dems would try to impeach him over it.
I read that the hearings being held are a joke..
Because the Liberals have a majority they control it..
Jody Wilson-Raybould will not be allowed to respond to Gerald Butts and Jane Philpott will not speak at all..
It will wrap up, without getting to the bottom of it and no RCMP investigation.
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Bricktop on March 06, 2019, 09:55:40 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 06, 2019, 09:55:40 PM
You should be stirring up your local MP's.
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Gaon on March 06, 2019, 10:13:49 PM
Post by: Gaon on March 06, 2019, 10:13:49 PM
You Canucks are too easy on your government flunkies.Quote from: "Bricktop"
You should be stirring up your local MP's.
Canada has no parties on the right. And the government is not afraid of a revolt. That is why they will do things like raise taxes without fear of repercussions.
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Bricktop on March 06, 2019, 10:41:01 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 06, 2019, 10:41:01 PM
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Gaon on March 06, 2019, 11:07:34 PM
Post by: Gaon on March 06, 2019, 11:07:34 PM
Then it is up to the people to step up, as they did in France. Les jilets jeune.Quote from: "Bricktop"
In my city, a protest against a pipeline from the neighboring province will bring out hundreds, possibly thousands of people. Higher taxes, illegal immigration, corruption and nothing. The politicians here would not get away with this in Israel.
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: JOE on March 06, 2019, 11:46:25 PM
Post by: JOE on March 06, 2019, 11:46:25 PM
Justin Trudeau has gone from denying any pressure on Judy Wilson-Raybould and calling her a liar to admitting he may have intervened, but no wrongdoing..Quote from: "Fashionista"
Next will be regret until finally an admission of bad judgment and remorse.
Well y'know Fashionista I didn't think Conservative Mike Duffy was ever guilty even at the height of the allegations being thrown at him. I'm not a Conservative and yet I think he was hard done by. So I accord Trudeau the same treatment.
Our news media in Canada tend to make Mountains from molehills by framing our public figures as the 2nd coming of Hitler. They blow things out of proportion and label people as guilty before giving them a chance to prove their innocence.
On a side note, the news media also blew that Dalhousie Facebook fiasco out of proportion too. C'mon- a bunch of dental students posting stupid frat house chit on the equivalent of a school blackboard? Even the alleged victims, female dental students at Dalhousie said the attention paid to that incident was ridiculous and that they didn't feel harmed
So I dont trust the news media in Canada because they aren't responsible messengers if our national news.
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Anonymous on March 06, 2019, 11:59:06 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 06, 2019, 11:59:06 PM
Justin Trudeau has gone from denying any pressure on Judy Wilson-Raybould and calling her a liar to admitting he may have intervened, but no wrongdoing..Quote from: "Fashionista"
Next will be regret until finally an admission of bad judgment and remorse.
Well y'know Fashionista I didn't think Conservative Mike Duffy was ever guilty even at the height of the allegations being thrown at him. I'm not a Conservative and yet I think he was hard done by. So I accord Trudeau the same treatment.
Our news media in Canada tend to make Mountains from molehills by framing our public figures as the 2nd coming of Hitler. They blow things out of proportion and label people as guilty before giving them a chance to prove their innocence.
On a side note, the news media also blew that Dalhousie Facebook fiasco out of proportion too. C'mon- a bunch of dental students posting stupid frat house chit on the equivalent of a school blackboard? Even the alleged victims, female dental students at Dalhousie said the attention paid to that incident was ridiculous and that they didn't feel harmed
So I dont trust the news media in Canada because they aren't responsible messengers if our national news.
Apples and oranges comparisons and a deliberate attempt to derail a thread.
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Bricktop on March 07, 2019, 12:13:30 AM
Post by: Bricktop on March 07, 2019, 12:13:30 AM
Justin Trudeau has gone from denying any pressure on Judy Wilson-Raybould and calling her a liar to admitting he may have intervened, but no wrongdoing..Quote from: "Fashionista"
Next will be regret until finally an admission of bad judgment and remorse.
Well y'know Fashionista I didn't think Conservative Mike Duffy was ever guilty even at the height of the allegations being thrown at him. I'm not a Conservative and yet I think he was hard done by. So I accord Trudeau the same treatment.
Our news media in Canada tend to make Mountains from molehills by framing our public figures as the 2nd coming of Hitler. They blow things out of proportion and label people as guilty before giving them a chance to prove their innocence.
On a side note, the news media also blew that Dalhousie Facebook fiasco out of proportion too. C'mon- a bunch of dental students posting stupid frat house chit on the equivalent of a school blackboard? Even the alleged victims, female dental students at Dalhousie said the attention paid to that incident was ridiculous and that they didn't feel harmed
So I dont trust the news media in Canada because they aren't responsible messengers if our national news.
Joe, pay attention to me.
There are two types of news.
One type reports factual incidents. That is to say they will inform the public about bushfires, celebrity weddings, sordid affairs and the price of eggs. These are facts. True, they sometimes sensationalise and embellish the facts, but at their core these have a factual base (unless published in a gossip magazine which are never factual, nor do they need to be given their intended audience).
Then there is op ed or opinion editorials or articles. These are matters of the writer's opinion, and are frequently lacking in fact, reason and logic for no other reason than journalists who write such columns are unqualified to opine on the subject matter, yet they do so because they think they are important enough to actually influence events. CNN, MSNBC, Fox News and the BBC are examples of organisations that editorialise yet portray their stories as fact.
The resignation of two cabinet ministers from Trudeau's government is factual. No matter who reports it, it can be relied upon asa the truth.
The resignation of TWO cabinet ministers as a mortal blow to ANY sitting Prime Minister. That, too, is a fact. It means that you have lost the support and confidence of two people whom you appointed to their positions and so expect total loyalty. Their resignations are saying to the Prime Minister "we cannot be loyal to someone who has betrayed trust".
As this effectively ends their political careers, one can safely assume that the basis for the resignations is that they possess information or evidence of significant wrongdoing by their PM. If THEY cannot trust and be loyal to the PM, how the hell can the electorate be confident that he (or she in the case of Theresa May) is acting lawfully and in accordance with the duties, responsibilities and oath of office?
The Canadian government is fractured, and good people are turning away from their leader. There's smoke, Joe. LOTS of smoke.
I think you have a fire burning in Ottawa, Joe.
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: JOE on March 07, 2019, 12:13:45 AM
Post by: JOE on March 07, 2019, 12:13:45 AM
Justin Trudeau has gone from denying any pressure on Judy Wilson-Raybould and calling her a liar to admitting he may have intervened, but no wrongdoing..Quote from: "Fashionista"
Next will be regret until finally an admission of bad judgment and remorse.
Well y'know Fashionista I didn't think Conservative Mike Duffy was ever guilty even at the height of the allegations being thrown at him. I'm not a Conservative and yet I think he was hard done by. So I accord Trudeau the same treatment.
Our news media in Canada tend to make Mountains from molehills by framing our public figures as the 2nd coming of Hitler. They blow things out of proportion and label people as guilty before giving them a chance to prove their innocence.
On a side note, the news media also blew that Dalhousie Facebook fiasco out of proportion too. C'mon- a bunch of dental students posting stupid frat house chit on the equivalent of a school blackboard? Even the alleged victims, female dental students at Dalhousie said the attention paid to that incident was ridiculous and that they didn't feel harmed
So I dont trust the news media in Canada because they aren't responsible messengers if our national news.
Apples and oranges comparisons and a deliberate attempt to derail a thread.
I'm just saying I don't want to pass judgement on Trudeau until all the facts have been presented.
But I did indicate earlier that I thought Wilson Raybould was a poor choice for Justice Minister & that Yrudesu's determination to appoint as many wonen as possible 'because its 2015' demonstrated poor judgement and is coming back to haunt him.
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Bricktop on March 07, 2019, 12:15:07 AM
Post by: Bricktop on March 07, 2019, 12:15:07 AM
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: JOE on March 07, 2019, 10:56:30 AM
Post by: JOE on March 07, 2019, 10:56:30 AM
Joe, who is to present those facts, and to whom?Quote from: "Bricktop"
Here's a some comments by a former Liberal Cabinet Minister, a woman, who criticizes the wsy Wilson Rayboud conducted herself & handled the situation:
Trudeau appointed a stubborn hotheaded Native woman & now its coming back to bite him in the ass.
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Anonymous on March 07, 2019, 11:11:36 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 07, 2019, 11:11:36 AM
This is getting some US coverage too.Quote from: "Wazzzup"Justin Trudeau has gone from denying any pressure on Judy Wilson-Raybould and calling her a liar to admitting he may have intervened, but no wrongdoing..Quote from: "Fashionista"
Next will be regret until finally an admission of bad judgment and remorse.
It looks to me like this is obstruction of justice which is against the law in Canada.. However, The national post discusses this and says what Trudeau did is unethical but probably not illegal.https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/lavscam-jody-wilson-raybould-jane-philpott
I bet if Trump had done this the dems would try to impeach him over it.
I read that the hearings being held are a joke..
Because the Liberals have a majority they control it..
Jody Wilson-Raybould will not be allowed to respond to Gerald Butts and Jane Philpott will not speak at all..
It will wrap up, without getting to the bottom of it and no RCMP investigation.
They are not under oath. It's just for show. Proof positive the Trudeau regime is a dictatorship that is afraid of the will of the people and the independence of the judiciary.
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Anonymous on March 07, 2019, 03:55:36 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 07, 2019, 03:55:36 PM
The testimony on wednesday morning of Gerald butts — Prime Minister Justin trudeau's friend for 30 years — concerning Lavscam didn't give us any answers. All it did, was offer up his version of the story.
Jody wilson-raybould had previously given detailed testimony citing some 30 interactions with the Prime Minister's office staff over snc-lavalin, many involving what seems to be political interference.
yet butts attempted to refute all of that, in the vaguest of terms, with little reference to specific dates and quotes. he wants Canadians to believe his side of the story, that there was nothing questionable that went on and that he and Prime Minister Justin trudeau don't conduct themselves that way.
he's going to have to do a whole lot better than his wednesday performance though. Canadians shouldn't buy it, at least not without more evidence.
especially not his assertions like: "i am fully aware that two people can experience the same events differently." This is not about differences of interpretation. This is about the facts and whether or not obstruction of justice occurred.
butts even tried to get philosophical at times: "i like to look forward in life. we're all human. we all make mistakes all the time. Part of improving your professional life and personal relationships is to examine your mistakes... i firmly believe that nothing inappropriate occurred here."
it's not what he believed though, that counts. it's what he really said. Jody wilson-raybould gave credible testimony that butts did indeed say things that crossed the line. Like the text message she cited from her Chief of staff who claimed butts said "there is no solution here that doesn't involve some interference."
That is damning evidence. Maybe it's not the full story. Maybe butts is right. but "maybes" just aren't good enough for something this serious.
This can't just be left up to the Justice Committee, which will only write a report that will collect dust on the shelf.
Canadians are owed answers as to whether or not this country's political leadership placed political pressure on the justice system.
A public inquiry and, perhaps, the courts are a more appropriate venue to get to the bottom of this issue. The stakes are too high right now.
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Bricktop on March 07, 2019, 04:03:48 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 07, 2019, 04:03:48 PM
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Anonymous on March 07, 2019, 04:07:39 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 07, 2019, 04:07:39 PM
Do you guys have Royal Commissions?Quote from: "Bricktop"
Yes, we do.
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Bricktop on March 07, 2019, 04:29:16 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 07, 2019, 04:29:16 PM
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Anonymous on March 07, 2019, 05:39:23 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 07, 2019, 05:39:23 PM
Then the opposition should be screaming for the government to implement a Royal Commission.Quote from: "Bricktop"
We have had a shitload of royal commissions in my lifetime, but I don't know if this is grounds for one or not. It is definitely grounds for an RCMP investigation.
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Anonymous on March 07, 2019, 10:03:55 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 07, 2019, 10:03:55 PM
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2019, 04:44:16 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2019, 04:44:16 PM
By Anthony Furey of Sun News Media
Throughout it all, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has had an air of confidence to his handling of Lavscam. Now, he seems to think he has put the worst behind him.
Not so fast.
First, he dismissed the original report as "false." Then, there was his appearance after Jody Wilson-raybould's testimony where he was strangely cockier than usual.
And then there was Thursday morning, where Trudeau issued his non-apology. The night before, sources had leaked to the media that the PM was planning a statement of "contrition."
Some contrition. Trudeau chalked it all up to an "erosion of trust," placing the blame for this squarely at the feet of JWR.
"She did not come to me. And I wish she had ... Dialogue is crucial on a file as important as justice," he said.
There's a little problem with all of this though. Not only did Clerk of the Privy Council Michael Wernick acknowledge that JWR had come to them concerning the issue in September but Trudeau did as well, explaining how they were hoping she'd be "open to considering other aspects of the public interest."
As I wrote previously, this is all about credibility and right now Wilson-raybould still has it more than Trudeau, Wernick and Gerald Butts.
It almost seemed as if Trudeau was having some sort of out-of-body experience where he thought he was talking about another person enduring this scandal.
"As we look back upon the past few weeks, there are many lessons for us to learn," he said.
Us? "We" have nothing to do with it. This is all on you. Own it.
Yet, he did not. And when a reporter wisely cut to the chase and asked: "Prime minister, are you apologizing today?" he answered: "I continue to say no inappropriate pressure."
The big problem with that mess of a press conference wasn't just how Trudeau failed to say the right things but the whole attitude he brought to it. He was behaving like he was putting a lid on the saga, that this was him having the final say.
That's not how it works, though. This isn't over. Trudeau is just one party out of several in a scandal that has legal implications.
It is not enough to step forward and simply muddy the narrative and then conclude you've turned a page.
This is a legal question about potential obstruction of justice as much as it is a question about Trudeau's political survival. The person who should have the final say is a judge or jury or, at the very least, a retired senior judge heading up a public inquiry.
If public prosecutors were able to summon 31 charges against Mike Duffy, you'd think they've at least got a handful to issue for this troubling affair. So where do we go now? Trudeau has repeatedly said we should welcome the ethics commissioner and justice committee to do their job. But of course he'd say that. The former will simply issue him a fine of a few hundred dollars and all the committee will do is write a report with a dozen or so non-binding recommendations.
Meanwhile, on Thursday Liberal MP Celina Caesar-chavannes made a social media post to Trudeau that's got everyone wondering.
"I did come to you recently. Twice. Remember your reactions?" she posted.
Then the Public Prosecution Service of Canada posted this throwdown on social media: "Our prosecutors must be objective, independent and dispassionate, as well as free from improper influence — including political influence."
Trudeau may claim this is over. But that's not his claim to make. Expect the political and legal fallout to continue.
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2019, 04:49:01 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2019, 04:49:01 PM
Today we join the growing list of Canadians using the twitter handle #Letjodyspeak to demand former attorneygeneral Jody Wilson-raybould be recalled to testify at the Commons justice committee hearings into the Snc-lavalin scandal.
The Liberal majority on the committee Wednesday rejected an opposition motion for Wilson-raybould to be recalled, after some of the testimony by Gerald Butts, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's former principal secretary, diametrically opposed her version of events.
Instead, the Liberals approved a motion to consider what additional witnesses they will call at a closed-door meeting March 19, federal budget day.
The Liberals also defeated an opposition motion asking Trudeau to consider fully waiving the confidentiality gag he has only partially removed from Wilson-raybould.
It still prohibits her from discussing anything after he removed her as attorney general in his Jan. 14 cabinet shuffle, including her time as veterans' Affairs minister. It also bars her from speaking about her reasons for resigning from cabinet on Feb. 12. Wilson-raybould is willing to reappear. "I would of course make myself available to the committee if requested to give additional testimony, to answer any further questions and to provide further clarity that may be required," she said in a written statement.
"As I indicated at the time, my statement to the committee (on
Feb. 27) was not a complete account but only a detailed summary."
The entire process has already been unfair to Wilson-raybould.
She was originally forced to sit in silence for three weeks while Liberals from the PM on down, some anonymously, made statements aimed at discrediting her, while Trudeau gagged her from responding.
This after the Globe and Mail reported Feb. 7 that she had been improperly lobbied by the Prime Minister's Office to drop the criminal prosecution of Snclavalin on foreign bribery charges.
The PMO urged her to substitute a Deferred Prosecution Agreement, so the company could continue bidding on federal contracts, which they would be banned from seeking for 10 years if convicted on the criminal charges.
The committee has already called Privy Council Clerk Michael Wernick twice, before and after Wilson-raybould's testimony, the second time because his initial testimony disagreed with hers on key points.
Wilson-raybould deserves the same opportunity.
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2019, 07:08:39 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2019, 07:08:39 PM
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2019, 10:13:58 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2019, 10:13:58 PM
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2019, 10:19:17 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2019, 10:19:17 PM
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Wazzzup on March 09, 2019, 09:40:49 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 09, 2019, 09:40:49 AM
I hope the voters are watching this and seeing what's going on.
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Anonymous on March 09, 2019, 10:33:15 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 09, 2019, 10:33:15 AM
That's as bad as the scandal, maybe worse- the liberal party trying to cover everything up to no one can get to the truth.Quote from: "Wazzzup"
I hope the voters are watching this and seeing what's going on.
The prime minister won't get to the bottom of it, so I think it will have no effect on his reelection hopes.
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Anonymous on March 10, 2019, 01:41:13 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 10, 2019, 01:41:13 PM
Remember when Prime Minister Justin Trudeau appointed his first cabinet in 2015? When asked to explain why the gender parity of his ministry, Trudeau replied "because it's 2015."
Media went ga-ga. He was young, had great hair and truly cared about women's issues. Rolling Stone magazine even called Trudeau "the free world's best hope."
The gender-based virtue-signalling has continued since.
Last June, the Liberals passed a bill in the House of Commons that would make all future pipelines and energy megaprojects as dependent on gender impact studies as they would be on environmental and economic assessments.
And the last Liberal budget mentioned gender equality no fewer than 357 times.
Trudeau devoted his last speech to the World Economic Forum in Switzerland to women's rights, and his government put the country's economy at risk by insisting any new free trade pact with the U.S. include gender parity guarantees.
At the last G20 gathering in Argentina, our self-proclaimed feminist PM warned about the social destruction that can be suffered by local women when all-male construction crews move into rural areas.
But Trudeau is a fake feminist. When push comes to shove, Trudeau's feminist behaviour disappears.
Before the recent resignations from his cabinet of two of its most prominent female ministers – Jody Wilson-raybould and Jane Philpott – the most famous example of Trudeau's superficial feminism surrounded his "Kokanee Grope."
Back in 2000, long before he entered politics, Trudeau was attending a music festival in the B.C. Interior and being interviewed by a female reporter who he "inappropriately handled." When this incident resurfaced last summer, Trudeau's feminist piety abandoned him. Women never lie about sexual assault (a common feminist mantra) became, for Trudeau, "the same interactions can be experienced very differently" by men and women.
This was the same political leader who had Canada's sexual assault laws changed to severely restrict the ability of an accused man to defend himself in court because Trudeau didn't like the outcome of the Jian Ghomeshi trial and said his government was going to stand with the victims and their stories. But not, apparently, when that standard applied to him.
"I am not going to speak for the woman in question," he said of the 18-yearold incident, "I would never presume to speak for her," but she has her version of events and the PM has his. Which sounds an awful lot like a polite-society version of "Honest, Your Honour, I really thought she was into it, too."
We're seeing the same sort of tortured logic out of Trudeau and his loyalists concerning Jody Wilson-raybould and her SNC testimony.
They keep referring to her by her first name, a slight that, while perhaps unintended, I cannot imagine them applying to a male minister who was giving them similar headaches. And when this scandal broke, the Trudeau-ites first defence was to whisper to friendly reporters that "Jody" had always had a big ego, you know, and been difficult to work with. Translation: She's a highstrung woman, so what can you expect?
Trudeau and his apologists, such as his former principal secretary, Gerald Butts, have also frequently fallen back on their explanation that different participants in the same event can perceive it very differently. Sounds like the Kokanee Grope again.
Even Finance Minister Bill Morneau, when Treasury Board President Jane Philpott resigned, explained it away as "Jane Philpott is a close personal friend of Jody Wilson-raybould." What does that mean? That their departures were more of a girls'-night adventure than a strong, principled stance?
Our feminist Liberal prime minister is only too happy to disparage women when they get in his way.
Which reminds me, remember when Trudeau elbowed New Democrat MP Ruth Ellen Brosseau in the chest when she got in his way during a 2016 Commons vote?
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Gaon on March 10, 2019, 07:37:53 PM
Post by: Gaon on March 10, 2019, 07:37:53 PM
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Bricktop on March 10, 2019, 07:52:14 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 10, 2019, 07:52:14 PM
50% of voters are female.
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Anonymous on March 10, 2019, 08:34:08 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 10, 2019, 08:34:08 PM
Trudeau's feminism is based on mathematics, not sociology.Quote from: "Bricktop"
50% of voters are female.
Trudeau's feminism is as phony as a three dollar bill. He's as much a feminist as Harvey Weinstein.
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2019, 01:47:36 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2019, 01:47:36 AM
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Bricktop on March 11, 2019, 02:00:09 AM
Post by: Bricktop on March 11, 2019, 02:00:09 AM
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2019, 02:02:03 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2019, 02:02:03 AM
I'm actually wondering how anyone can be gagged?Quote from: "Bricktop"
Our feminist pm keeps Liberal MP's on short leashes.
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Wazzzup on March 11, 2019, 03:07:32 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 11, 2019, 03:07:32 AM
I'm actually wondering how anyone can be gagged?Quote from: "Bricktop"
I wondered that too. In the US only a court can gag order a person.
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Frood on March 11, 2019, 03:30:50 AM
Post by: Frood on March 11, 2019, 03:30:50 AM
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2019, 09:19:04 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2019, 09:19:04 AM
I'm actually wondering how anyone can be gagged?Quote from: "Bricktop"
I wondered that too. In the US only a court can gag order a person.
The Conservative Party set up this website.
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Wazzzup on March 11, 2019, 11:35:14 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 11, 2019, 11:35:14 AM
I'm actually wondering how anyone can be gagged?Quote from: "Bricktop"
I wondered that too. In the US only a court can gag order a person.
The Conservative Party set up this website.https://www.letherspeak.ca/
from the link--
Justin Trudeau must waive solicitor-client privilege so she can speak the truth.Quote
Somehow there's an issue about her being his lawyer? That shouldn't have anything to do with this though.
On Wednesday, the Justice Committee will decide whether or not to invite Jody Wilson-Raybould to testify and answer these questions.Quote
Hopefully they will, they certainly should.
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2019, 01:37:22 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2019, 01:37:22 PM
There is a meme that has been doing the rounds on social media for several years now that shows various pictures of Stephen Harper with the caption "Miss me yet?"
It's only natural that Conservative members and diehard fans of the former prime minister would promote such an image even mere hours into the era of Justin Trudeau.
But now it appears that, having had a few years to think about it, a whole lot more Canadians might also agree with the sentiment. They seem to miss Stephen Harper, or at least place great value on his legacy.
A recent under-reported survey by Montreal-based pollster Leger asked Canadians who they considered the top Prime Minister of the last 50 years.
Stephen Harper came out on top, with a plurality of the votes at 24%. Trudeau came second. But not the current one.
Pierre Elliott Trudeau won the support of 22% of respondents.
Jean Chretien and Brian Mulroney followed, with the current office holder scoring a poor fifth-place showing.
Only 9% of Canadians think
Justin Trudeau is the best PM of the past half century.
It's interesting to note that the only PMS he beats are the one-hit wonders who only served a single, short term: Paul Martin, Joe Clark, John Turner, and Kim Campbell.
Now — as Lavscam unfolds — is an interesting time to ask whether Trudeau will be later considered relegated to the dustbin of history like the PMS at the back of the pack or whether he will live to see another term and forge a true legacy.
(This poll was conducted a week after the initial Lavscam news was reported but before the testimony of Jody Wilson-raybould.)
Leger did not ask what was behind these responses. But it shouldn't be a surprise that the calm and consistent tone of Stephen Harper's leadership now looks very appealing compared to the messy ride of the past few years.
It may just be in part that absence makes the heart grow fonder. Regardless, this poll shows if Justin Trudeau wants to seek re-election by fear-mongering about a return to the Harper years, it may backlash.
Canadians look back on those years fondly.
Title: Re: Trudeau is getting press in Oz.
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2019, 03:04:31 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2019, 03:04:31 PM
OECD monitoring Canada's SNC-Lavalin probes
The Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development says it is concerned by accusations that Trudeau and staff in his office tried to persuade former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould to let the Quebec engineering giant negotiate a remediation agreement rather than pursue the firm on criminal charges of bribery and fraud.
SNC-Lavalin is accused of bribing Libyan officials to win a $58-million contract to restore a water pipeline.
The Anti-Bribery Convention, which Canada signed onto in 1999, establishes international standards to criminalize the bribery of foreign officials and the OECD says it is closely monitoring the outcome of the investigations into the SNC-Lavalin affair.