Title: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Gaon on March 07, 2019, 11:46:40 PM
Post by: Gaon on March 07, 2019, 11:46:40 PM
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 07, 2019, 11:56:45 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 07, 2019, 11:56:45 PM
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2019, 12:01:14 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2019, 12:01:14 AM
I follow Israeli politics more than Canadian and American politics. Israel has a real and vibrant right wing. This is something that is lacking in North America. There is no political spectrum on this continent and it makes politics boring to observe. Trump would be Likud lite in Israel. Andrew Scheer would be Kulanu.Quote from: "Gaon"
Do you want this in Politics Gaon or is this just a general discussion about the political spectrum here?
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Gaon on March 08, 2019, 12:05:20 AM
Post by: Gaon on March 08, 2019, 12:05:20 AM
I follow Israeli politics more than Canadian and American politics. Israel has a real and vibrant right wing. This is something that is lacking in North America. There is no political spectrum on this continent and it makes politics boring to observe. Trump would be Likud lite in Israel. Andrew Scheer would be Kulanu.Quote from: "Gaon"
Do you want this in Politics Gaon or is this just a general discussion about the political spectrum here?
It's a comparison based on what I have observed since we landed in Canada. If you want to move it, go ahead.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Wazzzup on March 08, 2019, 12:34:43 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 08, 2019, 12:34:43 AM
I can't stand the democrats but at least they try to push their political agenda, most republicans are just cowards trying to hold onto their jobs.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Gaon on March 08, 2019, 12:44:47 AM
Post by: Gaon on March 08, 2019, 12:44:47 AM
I agree there is no right in the US. The republican party is supposed to represent the right. But most of them are so frightened of the media and the left, especially when the left plays the race card, they are completely paralyzed. They don't push a right agenda at all. It seems to me they mostly try to lay low and avoid any conflict, hoping if they don't make any waves they will get re-elected.Quote from: "Wazzzup"
I can't stand the democrats but at least they try to push their political agenda, most republicans are just cowards trying to hold onto their jobs.
I have to laugh when Joe uses the right wing label for North Americans. Go to Israel or Hungary or Poland. They have a real right wing. America and Canada do not. But, Joe could be fishing for a reaction.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Wazzzup on March 08, 2019, 12:50:56 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 08, 2019, 12:50:56 AM
Occasionally Joe posts something worth reading but 90% or more of what he posts is silly trolling nonsense.I agree there is no right in the US. The republican party is supposed to represent the right. But most of them are so frightened of the media and the left, especially when the left plays the race card, they are completely paralyzed. They don't push a right agenda at all. It seems to me they mostly try to lay low and avoid any conflict, hoping if they don't make any waves they will get re-elected.Quote from: "Wazzzup"
I can't stand the democrats but at least they try to push their political agenda, most republicans are just cowards trying to hold onto their jobs.
I have to laugh when Joe uses the right wing label for North Americans. Go to Israel or Hungary or Poland. They have a real right wing. America and Canada do not. But, Joe could be fishing for a reaction.
I am curios, if you don't mind, what are some of the policy differences you see between Israel's right vs Canada/America's Pseudo right?
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Bricktop on March 08, 2019, 01:07:03 AM
Post by: Bricktop on March 08, 2019, 01:07:03 AM
We have two lefts, and you cannot run with two left feet.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Gaon on March 08, 2019, 01:36:25 AM
Post by: Gaon on March 08, 2019, 01:36:25 AM
I agree there is no right in the US. The republican party is supposed to represent the right. But most of them are so frightened of the media and the left, especially when the left plays the race card, they are completely paralyzed. They don't push a right agenda at all. It seems to me they mostly try to lay low and avoid any conflict, hoping if they don't make any waves they will get re-elected.Quote from: "Wazzzup"
I can't stand the democrats but at least they try to push their political agenda, most republicans are just cowards trying to hold onto their jobs.
I have to laugh when Joe uses the right wing label for North Americans. Go to Israel or Hungary or Poland. They have a real right wing. America and Canada do not. But, Joe could be fishing for a reaction.
I am curios, if you don't mind, what are some of the policy differences you see between Israel's right vs Canada/America's Pseudo right?
The most obvious distinction is in their responses to illegal immigration. The right in Israel universally supports Israel's border barriers. Israel set time tables for illegals in the country to leave on their own or be removed. The Israeli right doesn't care about political correctness. The Israeli right openly talks about issues related to immigration and the importance of making sure immigrants assimilate. While Trump has been removing red tape the right in Canada has not. Netanyahu hates regulatory burdens that restrict innovation.
There are others, but I have to go to bed. We'll pick this up tomorrow night.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2019, 08:55:38 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2019, 08:55:38 AM
I agree there is no right in the US. The republican party is supposed to represent the right. But most of them are so frightened of the media and the left, especially when the left plays the race card, they are completely paralyzed. They don't push a right agenda at all. It seems to me they mostly try to lay low and avoid any conflict, hoping if they don't make any waves they will get re-elected.Quote from: "Wazzzup"
I can't stand the democrats but at least they try to push their political agenda, most republicans are just cowards trying to hold onto their jobs.
I have to laugh when Joe uses the right wing label for North Americans. Go to Israel or Hungary or Poland. They have a real right wing. America and Canada do not. But, Joe could be fishing for a reaction.
I am curios, if you don't mind, what are some of the policy differences you see between Israel's right vs Canada/America's Pseudo right?
The most obvious distinction is in their responses to illegal immigration. The right in Israel universally supports Israel's border barriers. Israel set time tables for illegals in the country to leave on their own or be removed. The Israeli right doesn't care about political correctness. The Israeli right openly talks about issues related to immigration and the importance of making sure immigrants assimilate. While Trump has been removing red tape the right in Canada has not. Netanyahu hates regulatory burdens that restrict innovation.
There are others, but I have to go to bed. We'll pick this up tomorrow night.
Interesting Gaon.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Wazzzup on March 08, 2019, 09:52:46 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 08, 2019, 09:52:46 AM
I figured much of it is immigration. probably the main reason Trump got elected was people on the right were sick of the republicans being soft on immigration and didn't trust them. Trump came along and said he would do something about Muslim immigration and illegals that's why he beat all the other republicans for the nomination. Still even Trump hasn't done everything he could/should.I agree there is no right in the US. The republican party is supposed to represent the right. But most of them are so frightened of the media and the left, especially when the left plays the race card, they are completely paralyzed. They don't push a right agenda at all. It seems to me they mostly try to lay low and avoid any conflict, hoping if they don't make any waves they will get re-elected.Quote from: "Wazzzup"
I can't stand the democrats but at least they try to push their political agenda, most republicans are just cowards trying to hold onto their jobs.
I have to laugh when Joe uses the right wing label for North Americans. Go to Israel or Hungary or Poland. They have a real right wing. America and Canada do not. But, Joe could be fishing for a reaction.
I am curios, if you don't mind, what are some of the policy differences you see between Israel's right vs Canada/America's Pseudo right?
The most obvious distinction is in their responses to illegal immigration. The right in Israel universally supports Israel's border barriers. Israel set time tables for illegals in the country to leave on their own or be removed. The Israeli right doesn't care about political correctness. The Israeli right openly talks about issues related to immigration and the importance of making sure immigrants assimilate. While Trump has been removing red tape the right in Canada has not. Netanyahu hates regulatory burdens that restrict innovation.
There are others, but I have to go to bed. We'll pick this up tomorrow night.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2019, 11:04:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2019, 11:04:00 AM
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Gaon on March 08, 2019, 01:03:55 PM
Post by: Gaon on March 08, 2019, 01:03:55 PM
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2019, 04:41:37 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 08, 2019, 04:41:37 PM
There are a lot of people collecting social benefits in Israel. Arabs and the haredim breed like horny rabbits. Both have low labor participation rates. Netanyahu has been bringing in gradual reforms to change that. But, he needs the haredim or his coalition breaks up.Quote from: "Gaon"
I was going to say, until I read this thread, everything I read about Israel is that it spent a lot of money on social welfare programs. Though I have heard the Netanyahu has made reform inroads.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Gaon on March 09, 2019, 12:04:28 AM
Post by: Gaon on March 09, 2019, 12:04:28 AM
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Wazzzup on March 09, 2019, 12:12:20 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 09, 2019, 12:12:20 AM
IMO These are the two biggest obstacles the right has in the US
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Gaon on March 09, 2019, 12:17:20 AM
Post by: Gaon on March 09, 2019, 12:17:20 AM
n 2004, then finance minister Benjamin Netanyahu started the revival of the Israeli economy. During that time, as in any democracy a number of voices were raised against his aggressive free-market push and economic reforms. Some said that Netanyahu would not be able to change the mindset of those who believed that the government should solve their problems, not the market. Today in 2018 the results of his tough decisions and systematic reforms are quite visible. The current status of the Israeli economy, its diplomatic leverage and growing friendly links around the world are the cumulative results of the Netanyahu era, the most transformative phase of the Israeli economy. The way the Israeli prime minister has shaped the circumstances of his country is an inspiration for others.
In a recent interview at the Economic Club of Washington, Netanyahu said that he wants to be remembered "as the defender of Israel and the liberator of its economy."
When Netanyahu took charge as prime minister, Israel had enormous conceptual and technological assets, but there was a strong socialist influence in the economy too. The status of the public/private sector, as Netanyahu used to describe it in his popular "Fat Man/Thin Man" example, was that the public sector had become a fat man resting on a thin man's back (the private sector). Netanyahu, a true advocate of the free market economy, started a culture of continuous reforms to develop an environment in which private sector players can thrive.
In his first term as prime minister, he introduced a courageous plan to overhaul the Israeli economy. He reduced the size of the public sector, controlled government spending, cut tax rates and streamlined the taxation system, privatized major stateowned industries including banks, oil refineries, the national airline and Zim Integrated Shipping Services, reformed the pension and welfare system, and much more.
Netanyahu's quest for economic reform has not yet stopped: in December 2013, the Knesset passed the Law for Promotion of Competition and Reduction of Concentration, to increase competitiveness in the Israeli economy. The same year, Netanyahu also began a campaign of port privatization to increase Israel's exports. In July 2013, he issued tenders for the construction of private ports in Haifa and Ashdod. During Netanyahu's tenure as prime minister, Israel has witnessed a major privatization push, infrastructure reforms, agricultural reforms and reforms in the financial sector, too.
From the beginning, all of his key reforms have been aimed at curbing excess bureaucracy and regulations to ease the burden on industry.
Today Israel is one of the most technologically advanced economies in the world.
Israel, which once had a number of government- and union-controlled companies, is now the Startup Nation and Innovation Nation; a huge change, for which Netanyahu can take much of the credit.
He visualized the future market transitions accurately and much earlier than others and it is the result of his visionary approach that today, when some of the big economies of the world are struggling to foster an innovation ecosystem, Israel is leading.
A careful observation of Israel's status reflects that over the years, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has improved Israel's global standing and strategic position remarkably. Today, in all global platforms Netanyahu endorses Israel's high-tech sector and next-gen capabilities in digital health, smart mobility, agri-tech, watertech and cyber. When he names individual startups in his speeches, a generation of young and innovative Israeli minds of Israel get inspired.
Netanyahu truly is the defender of Israel and the liberator of its economy. There's no movement like his anywhere in North America. Trump is like a 1990's Democrat. Not the right wing boldness of Netanyahu's Likud.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Gaon on March 09, 2019, 12:28:43 AM
Post by: Gaon on March 09, 2019, 12:28:43 AM
Gaon a question of you don't mind--in Israel, do leftist party members play the race card/bigotry card a lot? and what about the Israeli media, is it biased strongly to the left?Quote from: "Wazzzup"
IMO These are the two biggest obstacles the right has in the US
The Leftist parties routinely throw accusations of racism against the rightist parties.
Haaretz is la leftist rag that encourages finger pointing. The media is more balanced in Israel. And baseless accusations are not career enders like in America.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Gaon on March 09, 2019, 11:48:18 AM
Post by: Gaon on March 09, 2019, 11:48:18 AM
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 09, 2019, 11:55:57 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 09, 2019, 11:55:57 AM
As I understand it, there used to be a political right in North America. The Republicans andQuote from: "Gaon"a defunct Canadian partyhad populist wings. The American Democratic Party and the Canadian Liberal Party used to allow diversity of viewpoints, but neither do now. All political choice in North America is gone now. Left wing fascism is here to stay.
You must mean Reform..
You did your homework Gaon.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: cc on March 09, 2019, 12:51:10 PM
Post by: cc on March 09, 2019, 12:51:10 PM
As I understand it, there used to be a political right in North America. The Republicans andQuote from: "Gaon"a defunct Canadian partyhad populist wings. The American Democratic Party and the Canadian Liberal Party used to allow diversity of viewpoints, but neither do now. All political choice in North America is gone now. Left wing fascism is here to stay.
You must mean Reform..
You did your homework Gaon.
:smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
Yes. The Reform party was the only significant "party of the populous" we have ever had
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 09, 2019, 01:06:38 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 09, 2019, 01:06:38 PM
As I understand it, there used to be a political right in North America. The Republicans andQuote from: "Gaon"a defunct Canadian partyhad populist wings. The American Democratic Party and the Canadian Liberal Party used to allow diversity of viewpoints, but neither do now. All political choice in North America is gone now. Left wing fascism is here to stay.
You must mean Reform..
You did your homework Gaon.
:smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
Yes. The Reform party was the only significant "party of the populous" we have ever had
They had a significant impact on Canada twenty five years ago..
It's been said that the Liberal party only became serious about deficit reduction because Reform held their feet to the fire.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Gaon on March 09, 2019, 02:41:30 PM
Post by: Gaon on March 09, 2019, 02:41:30 PM
As I understand it, there used to be a political right in North America. The Republicans andQuote from: "Gaon"a defunct Canadian partyhad populist wings. The American Democratic Party and the Canadian Liberal Party used to allow diversity of viewpoints, but neither do now. All political choice in North America is gone now. Left wing fascism is here to stay.
You must mean Reform..
You did your homework Gaon.
:smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
I searched to see if Canada ever had an actual political spectrum.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Gaon on March 10, 2019, 06:47:11 PM
Post by: Gaon on March 10, 2019, 06:47:11 PM
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 10, 2019, 10:39:41 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 10, 2019, 10:39:41 PM
As I understand it, there used to be a political right in North America. The Republicans andQuote from: "Gaon"a defunct Canadian partyhad populist wings. The American Democratic Party and the Canadian Liberal Party used to allow diversity of viewpoints, but neither do now. All political choice in North America is gone now. Left wing fascism is here to stay.
You must mean Reform..
You did your homework Gaon.
:smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
Yes. The Reform party was the only significant "party of the populous" we have ever had
Some things I liked about Reform and some I did not. They were better than the three prog options we have today.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 10, 2019, 11:38:20 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 10, 2019, 11:38:20 PM
As I understand it, there used to be a political right in North America. The Republicans andQuote from: "Gaon"a defunct Canadian partyhad populist wings. The American Democratic Party and the Canadian Liberal Party used to allow diversity of viewpoints, but neither do now. All political choice in North America is gone now. Left wing fascism is here to stay.
You must mean Reform..
You did your homework Gaon.
:smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
Yes. The Reform party was the only significant "party of the populous" we have ever had
Some things I liked about Reform and some I did not. They were better than the three prog options we have today.
Everybody thought the red Tory PC side would disappear when they merged with the larger Reform side. The red Tory anti populist PC agenda emerged victorious.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: JOE on March 11, 2019, 04:19:08 AM
Post by: JOE on March 11, 2019, 04:19:08 AM
I follow Israeli politics more than Canadian and American politics. Israel has a real and vibrant right wing. This is something that is lacking in North America. There is no political spectrum on this continent and it makes politics boring to observe. Trump would be Likud lite in Israel. Andrew Scheer would be Kulanu.Quote from: "Gaon"
Well for a country which is supposedly 'liberal' or 'left wing' the USA sure has a lotta of its own people locked away on prison. America has become the world's jailet with more women in its prosons than india, Chia & Russia combined. Its incarceration rate is the highest in the world.
That doesn't seem like a very free or 'liberal' nation ta me.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2019, 09:15:32 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2019, 09:15:32 AM
I follow Israeli politics more than Canadian and American politics. Israel has a real and vibrant right wing. This is something that is lacking in North America. There is no political spectrum on this continent and it makes politics boring to observe. Trump would be Likud lite in Israel. Andrew Scheer would be Kulanu.Quote from: "Gaon"
Well for a country which is supposedly 'liberal' or 'left wing' the USA sure has a lotta of its own people locked away on prison. America has become the world' ier woth more women in its prosons than india, Chia & Russia combined. Its incarceration rate is the highest in the world.
That doesn't seem like a very free or 'liberal' nation ta me.
Incarceration is not a right or left issue like defunding sanctuary cities.
A brief search indicated But after decades of explosive growth, there are signs that the country is turning the corner on mass incarceration.
The prison population decreased in 2016 for the third straight year, and prison reform, in general, is one of the rare issues with bipartisan support on Capitol Hill and in the White House.
Most people incarcerated in the USA are held at the state and local level, so federal reform can only change so much.
I also found this.
America's incarceration rate is at a two-decade low
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: JOE on March 11, 2019, 12:03:05 PM
Post by: JOE on March 11, 2019, 12:03:05 PM
I follow Israeli politics more than Canadian and American politics. Israel has a real and vibrant right wing. This is something that is lacking in North America. There is no political spectrum on this continent and it makes politics boring to observe. Trump would be Likud lite in Israel. Andrew Scheer would be Kulanu.Quote from: "Gaon"
Well for a country which is supposedly 'liberal' or 'left wing' the USA sure has a lotta of its own people locked away on prison. America has become the world' ier woth more women in its prosons than india, Chia & Russia combined. Its incarceration rate is the highest in the world.
That doesn't seem like a very free or 'liberal' nation ta me.
Incarceration is not a right or left issue like defunding sanctuary cities.
A brief search indicated But after decades of explosive growth, there are signs that the country is turning the corner on mass incarceration.
The prison population decreased in 2016 for the third straight year, and prison reform, in general, is one of the rare issues with bipartisan support on Capitol Hill and in the White House.
Most people incarcerated in the USA are held at the state and local level, so federal reform can only change so much.
I also found this.
America's incarceration rate is at a two-decade lowhttp://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/05/02/americas-incarceration-rate-is-at-a-two-decade-low/
Guess it doesn't help those much already incarcerated
Anyways America likes to publicize an image that it is very progressive open and liberal, but the stats/facts tell a much different story.
Its a very draconian purile & right wing nation Fashionista
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2019, 01:06:34 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2019, 01:06:34 PM
Incarceration is not a right or left issue like defunding sanctuary cities.
A brief search indicated But after decades of explosive growth, there are signs that the country is turning the corner on mass incarceration.
The prison population decreased in 2016 for the third straight year, and prison reform, in general, is one of the rare issues with bipartisan support on Capitol Hill and in the White House.
Most people incarcerated in the USA are held at the state and local level, so federal reform can only change so much.
I also found this.
America's incarceration rate is at a two-decade lowhttp://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/05/02/americas-incarceration-rate-is-at-a-two-decade-low/
Using the virgin's failed logic, New Zealand is to the right of Hungary and Tukey. And Sweden is to the right of Japan and India.
Anyway, the entire penal system is reliant on unionized labour. A traditional base of the left.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Wazzzup on March 11, 2019, 03:18:41 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 11, 2019, 03:18:41 PM
Incarceration is not a right or left issue like defunding sanctuary cities.
A brief search indicated But after decades of explosive growth, there are signs that the country is turning the corner on mass incarceration.
The prison population decreased in 2016 for the third straight year, and prison reform, in general, is one of the rare issues with bipartisan support on Capitol Hill and in the White House.
Most people incarcerated in the USA are held at the state and local level, so federal reform can only change so much.
I also found this.
America's incarceration rate is at a two-decade lowhttp://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/05/02/americas-incarceration-rate-is-at-a-two-decade-low/ Using the virgin's failed logic, New Zealand is to the right of Hungary and Turkey. And Sweden is to the right of Japan and India.:crazy:
Anyway, the entire penal system is reliant on unionized labour. A traditional base of the left.
Not to mention leftist-communist countries like The Soviet union, used to put all kinds of people in prison. Joe fails again.
BTW I'm glad that the US puts criminals in prison, that's where they belong. I can't help wonder if Brazil and South Africa put more people on prisons if their citizens would be safer.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2019, 03:52:58 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2019, 03:52:58 PM
Incarceration is not a right or left issue like defunding sanctuary cities.
A brief search indicated But after decades of explosive growth, there are signs that the country is turning the corner on mass incarceration.
The prison population decreased in 2016 for the third straight year, and prison reform, in general, is one of the rare issues with bipartisan support on Capitol Hill and in the White House.
Most people incarcerated in the USA are held at the state and local level, so federal reform can only change so much.
I also found this.
America's incarceration rate is at a two-decade lowhttp://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/05/02/americas-incarceration-rate-is-at-a-two-decade-low/ Using the virgin's failed logic, New Zealand is to the right of Hungary and Turkey. And Sweden is to the right of Japan and India.:crazy:
Anyway, the entire penal system is reliant on unionized labour. A traditional base of the left.
Not to mention leftist-communist countries like The Soviet union, used to put all kinds of people in prison. Joe fails again.:negative:
BTW I'm glad that the US puts criminals in prison, that's where they belong. I can't help wonder if Brazil and South Africa put more people on prisons if their citizens would be safer.
As you and Seoul said, incarceration rates are not indicative of a left-right divide.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2019, 06:48:10 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2019, 06:48:10 PM
Incarceration is not a right or left issue like defunding sanctuary cities.
A brief search indicated But after decades of explosive growth, there are signs that the country is turning the corner on mass incarceration.
The prison population decreased in 2016 for the third straight year, and prison reform, in general, is one of the rare issues with bipartisan support on Capitol Hill and in the White House.
Most people incarcerated in the USA are held at the state and local level, so federal reform can only change so much.
I also found this.
America's incarceration rate is at a two-decade lowhttp://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/05/02/americas-incarceration-rate-is-at-a-two-decade-low/ Using the virgin's failed logic, New Zealand is to the right of Hungary and Turkey. And Sweden is to the right of Japan and India.:crazy:
Anyway, the entire penal system is reliant on unionized labour. A traditional base of the left.
Not to mention leftist-communist countries like The Soviet union, used to put all kinds of people in prison. Joe fails again.:negative:
BTW I'm glad that the US puts criminals in prison, that's where they belong. I can't help wonder if Brazil and South Africa put more people on prisons if their citizens would be safer.
He got people to respond, so in his mind, he succeeded.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2019, 08:41:38 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2019, 08:41:38 PM
Incarceration is not a right or left issue like defunding sanctuary cities.
A brief search indicated But after decades of explosive growth, there are signs that the country is turning the corner on mass incarceration.
The prison population decreased in 2016 for the third straight year, and prison reform, in general, is one of the rare issues with bipartisan support on Capitol Hill and in the White House.
Most people incarcerated in the USA are held at the state and local level, so federal reform can only change so much.
I also found this.
America's incarceration rate is at a two-decade lowhttp://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/05/02/americas-incarceration-rate-is-at-a-two-decade-low/ Using the virgin's failed logic, New Zealand is to the right of Hungary and Turkey. And Sweden is to the right of Japan and India.:crazy:
Anyway, the entire penal system is reliant on unionized labour. A traditional base of the left.
Not to mention leftist-communist countries like The Soviet union, used to put all kinds of people in prison. Joe fails again.:negative:
BTW I'm glad that the US puts criminals in prison, that's where they belong. I can't help wonder if Brazil and South Africa put more people on prisons if their citizens would be safer.
As you and Seoul said, incarceration rates are not indicative of a left-right divide.
Old Joe knows that.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Wazzzup on March 11, 2019, 09:38:01 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 11, 2019, 09:38:01 PM
I have to wonder if Joe has a little attention whore scoreboard next to his computer, so he can ring himself up a point for every useless troll post he puts out there that gets attention. Virgins gotta have fun somehow I guess. Oh well.
Incarceration is not a right or left issue like defunding sanctuary cities.
A brief search indicated But after decades of explosive growth, there are signs that the country is turning the corner on mass incarceration.
The prison population decreased in 2016 for the third straight year, and prison reform, in general, is one of the rare issues with bipartisan support on Capitol Hill and in the White House.
Most people incarcerated in the USA are held at the state and local level, so federal reform can only change so much.
I also found this.
America's incarceration rate is at a two-decade lowhttp://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/05/02/americas-incarceration-rate-is-at-a-two-decade-low/ Using the virgin's failed logic, New Zealand is to the right of Hungary and Turkey. And Sweden is to the right of Japan and India.:crazy:
Anyway, the entire penal system is reliant on unionized labour. A traditional base of the left.
Not to mention leftist-communist countries like The Soviet union, used to put all kinds of people in prison. Joe fails again.:negative:
BTW I'm glad that the US puts criminals in prison, that's where they belong. I can't help wonder if Brazil and South Africa put more people on prisons if their citizens would be safer.
He got people to respond, so in his mind, he succeeded.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2019, 09:56:38 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2019, 09:56:38 PM
Incarceration is not a right or left issue like defunding sanctuary cities.
A brief search indicated But after decades of explosive growth, there are signs that the country is turning the corner on mass incarceration.
The prison population decreased in 2016 for the third straight year, and prison reform, in general, is one of the rare issues with bipartisan support on Capitol Hill and in the White House.
Most people incarcerated in the USA are held at the state and local level, so federal reform can only change so much.
I also found this.
America's incarceration rate is at a two-decade lowhttp://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/05/02/americas-incarceration-rate-is-at-a-two-decade-low/ Using the virgin's failed logic, New Zealand is to the right of Hungary and Turkey. And Sweden is to the right of Japan and India.:crazy:
Anyway, the entire penal system is reliant on unionized labour. A traditional base of the left.
Not to mention leftist-communist countries like The Soviet union, used to put all kinds of people in prison. Joe fails again.:negative:
BTW I'm glad that the US puts criminals in prison, that's where they belong. I can't help wonder if Brazil and South Africa put more people on prisons if their citizens would be safer.
He got people to respond, so in his mind, he succeeded.
Attention is the best an elderly virgin can hope for.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: JOE on March 12, 2019, 04:19:58 AM
Post by: JOE on March 12, 2019, 04:19:58 AM
Incarceration is not a right or left issue like defunding sanctuary cities.
A brief search indicated But after decades of explosive growth, there are signs that the country is turning the corner on mass incarceration.
The prison population decreased in 2016 for the third straight year, and prison reform, in general, is one of the rare issues with bipartisan support on Capitol Hill and in the White House.
Most people incarcerated in the USA are held at the state and local level, so federal reform can only change so much.
I also found this.
America's incarceration rate is at a two-decade lowhttp://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/05/02/americas-incarceration-rate-is-at-a-two-decade-low/ Using the virgin's failed logic, New Zealand is to the right of Hungary and Turkey. And Sweden is to the right of Japan and India.:crazy:
Anyway, the entire penal system is reliant on unionized labour. A traditional base of the left.
Not to mention leftist-communist countries like The Soviet union, used to put all kinds of people in prison. Joe fails again.:negative:
BTW I'm glad that the US puts criminals in prison, that's where they belong. I can't help wonder if Brazil and South Africa put more people on prisons if their citizens would be safer.
And yet there are so many people in prison or who were released in your country the United States of America, eh Lump.
I'd meet them everywhere, at the bus stop, some who just got outta prison.
Guys under house arrest with flashing ankle bracelets
Prison has become America's social welfare/slave labor system
Whether theyre Right or wrong, here's ta all the Inmates in America's prisons, Lump.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2019, 08:57:53 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2019, 08:57:53 AM
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2019, 11:14:14 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2019, 11:14:14 AM
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: JOE on March 12, 2019, 11:20:49 AM
Post by: JOE on March 12, 2019, 11:20:49 AM
Joe, I think it's been established your posts have nothing to do with the thread.Quote from: "Fashionista"
Well they have something to do with it Fashionista.
Because its folks on the Republican Right who always advocate more funding for prisons while denying mothers such as yourself maternity leave and state funded healthcare. And many women who are single moms living on minimum wage are affected because its the Right wing in America who are against increasing it & support cutting social welfare programs for them.
And there is a political right in America just like theres a left there too
Its the right who ve got the power though
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2019, 11:28:28 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2019, 11:28:28 AM
Joe, I think it's been established your posts have nothing to do with the thread.Quote from: "Fashionista"
Well they have something to do with it Fashionista.
Because its folks on the Republican Right who always advocate more funding for prisons while denying mothers such as yourself maternity leave and state funded healthcare.
And there is a political right in America just like theres a left there too
Its the right who ve got the power though
The US in both parties are moving away from incarceration. And most lock ups are at the local and state level. Besides, who works in penal system? Unionized civil servants. Not exactly a right wing voting block.
It's indisputable the US like Canada only has one ideology and It's proggy. You either don't know what right wing and socialist are or more likely it's slow today at the spic forum.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: JOE on March 12, 2019, 11:35:36 AM
Post by: JOE on March 12, 2019, 11:35:36 AM
Joe, I think it's been established your posts have nothing to do with the thread.Quote from: "Fashionista"
Be glad ya live in Canada IHJ.
Cuz there's help for recovering alcoholics such as yourself in Canada.
In the States not so much. Heck in the states you woulda ended up ln the streets or dead, IHJ.
I'm glad the medicare and our generous social welfare system helped you IHJ.
Me thinks someone as fragile as yourself couldnt survive in America IHJ.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: cc on March 12, 2019, 01:30:40 PM
Post by: cc on March 12, 2019, 01:30:40 PM
It has become constant of late and is negative .. in fact destructive to this forum .. or any forum for that matter
Yes, it takes a lowlife to do that, and of course we all know he is a lowlife ... but why do we have to view his constant lowlife antics and allow him to hurt the credibility of the forum?
Putting him on "Ignore" itself is not effective because his negativity appears in quotes.
Newer prospects, unaware that he is unique in his lowlife tactics, judge the forum as lowlife, and don't return.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: JOE on March 12, 2019, 01:53:11 PM
Post by: JOE on March 12, 2019, 01:53:11 PM
Why is Joe allowed to use PI (albeit volunteered PI)Quote from: "cc"to attack people instead of countering their posts? (former drinker, convict etc etc etc etc) [size=150]continuously[/size]
It has become constant of late and is negative .. in fact destructive to this forum .. or any forum for that matter
Yes, it takes a lowlife to do that, and of course we all know he is a lowlife ... but why do we have to view his constant lowlife antics and allow him to hurt the credibility of the forum?
Putting him on "Ignore" itself is not effective because his negativity appears in quotes.
Newer prospects, unaware of his tactics, see his lowlife antics, judge the forum, and leave.
Well cc, ya might ask yerself why others are allowed to attack me.
This isn't exactly the most civil or welcoming forum
And you oughta ask yourself why so relatively few women post here.
It seems to be a forum full of middle aged men who get their jollies running them down
But Im tough, so I expect others who dish it out to be able to take it as well.
Im a cancer survivor and survived an attack by a wild bear.
Even Steve Irwin &Terry Fox didn't survive those obstacles
But i did. Im strong eh?
Anyways all these overgrown babies here who go running back to Momma Fashionista under her skirt are cowards if they seek her protection
This is how Patton treated cowards and sissies:
Some of the cowardly in this forum could learn from that example.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2019, 01:57:32 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2019, 01:57:32 PM
Why is Joe allowed to use PI (albeit volunteered PI)Quote from: "cc"to attack people instead of countering their posts? (former drinker, convict etc etc etc etc) [size=150]continuously[/size]
It has become constant of late and is negative .. in fact destructive to this forum .. or any forum for that matter
Yes, it takes a lowlife to do that, and of course we all know he is a lowlife ... but why do we have to view his constant lowlife antics and allow him to hurt the credibility of the forum?
Putting him on "Ignore" itself is not effective because his negativity appears in quotes.
Newer prospects, unaware that he is unique in his lowlife tactics, judge the forum as lowlife, and don't return.
He's even using the pedo accusation which the mod here has zero tolerance for.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: JOE on March 12, 2019, 02:03:29 PM
Post by: JOE on March 12, 2019, 02:03:29 PM
Why is Joe allowed to use PI (albeit volunteered PI)Quote from: "cc"to attack people instead of countering their posts? (former drinker, convict etc etc etc etc) [size=150]continuously[/size]
It has become constant of late and is negative .. in fact destructive to this forum .. or any forum for that matter
Yes, it takes a lowlife to do that, and of course we all know he is a lowlife ... but why do we have to view his constant lowlife antics and allow him to hurt the credibility of the forum?
Putting him on "Ignore" itself is not effective because his negativity appears in quotes.
Newer prospects, unaware that he is unique in his lowlife tactics, judge the forum as lowlife, and don't return.
He's even using the pedo accusation which the mod here has zero tolerance for.
Can you cite anything about my references to pedophilia?
Im not angry. Just puzzled
When did I make references to it?
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2019, 02:09:44 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2019, 02:09:44 PM
73 percent of registered voters have an unfavorable opinion of the Supreme Court's Citizens United decision.
61 percent of Americans support labour unions.
63 percent of registered voter favour making four-year public colleges and universities tuition-free.
59 percent of Americans favour free early-childhood education.
84 percent of Americans support requiring background checks for all gun buyers.
77 percent of gun owners support requiring background checks for all gun buyers.
76 percent of registered voters support allowing undocumented immigrants brought to the country as children to stay in the country.
Gay marriage is legal.
Gays serve openly in the military.
Most states are moving towards legalization or at least decriminalization of marijuana.
Americans are to the left of Canadians and many Europeans on illegal immigration/sanctuary cities.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: cc on March 12, 2019, 02:25:54 PM
Post by: cc on March 12, 2019, 02:25:54 PM
kitty is outa the bag today
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2019, 03:30:30 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2019, 03:30:30 PM
Anyway, enough of Joe derailing our discussions. The US is very much a left wing nation. Since FDR, the movement leftward among Republicans and Democrats alike is tangible and unstoppable. There was a brief period in 90's with the Gingrich contract with Americans that this was slowed, but that's been it for many decades. Progressives won the culture wars.Quote from: "seoulbro"
73 percent of registered voters have an unfavorable opinion of the Supreme Court's Citizens United decision.
61 percent of Americans support labour unions.
63 percent of registered voter favour making four-year public colleges and universities tuition-free.
59 percent of Americans favour free early-childhood education.
84 percent of Americans support requiring background checks for all gun buyers.
77 percent of gun owners support requiring background checks for all gun buyers.
76 percent of registered voters support allowing undocumented immigrants brought to the country as children to stay in the country.
Gay marriage is legal.
Gays serve openly in the military.
Most states are moving towards legalization or at least decriminalization of marijuana.
Americans are to the left of Canadians and many Europeans on illegal immigration/sanctuary cities.
Excellent information Seoul..
East Asians see Americans as very liberal and your post confirms that.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Wazzzup on March 12, 2019, 04:38:32 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 12, 2019, 04:38:32 PM
here is another way to think about it--
1. The media
2. Hollywood/entertainment
3. The education system
4. The deep state resistance
5. The house
1.The presidency (Trump)
--
So basically you have 5 things controlled by the left and one by the right.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2019, 04:46:49 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2019, 04:46:49 PM
I m glad we are re-railed, thank you SB I like that going issue by issue.Quote from: "Wazzzup"
here is another way to think about it--[size=150]A. Things controlled by the left--[/size]
1. The media
2. Hollywood/entertainment
3. The education system
4. The deep state resistance
5. The house[size=150]B. Middle-ish[/size] Judiciary--The left doesn't control the judiciary necessarily, but they have lots of activist judges throwing the role of a judge out the window to resist everything Trump does. The supreme court is center right, but it takes a while to get things there. Senate--Republicans control the senate buy the republicans are chicken shits who barely ever do anything, so they are not really part of the right. It also takes 60 votes to pass anything in the senate because of the stupid filibuster rule. [size=150]C. things controlled by the right-[/size]
1.The presidency (Trump)
--
So basically you have 5 things controlled by the left and one by the right.
The question becomes do you really consider the Trump presidency right wing. On many issues like trade and Social Security, he's like an IHJ type socialist.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Wazzzup on March 12, 2019, 05:07:17 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 12, 2019, 05:07:17 PM
Spending too. the budget he offered up of course will be rejected, but its way too expensive. I also believe somewhat as Ann Coulter does that he has not given it all when it comes to stopping illegal immigration. On balance though he has done many things that are excellent. Although imperfect, IMO He is America's last hope. I see no one waiting in the wings to take his place when he's gone.I m glad we are re-railed, thank you SB I like that going issue by issue.Quote from: "Wazzzup"
here is another way to think about it--[size=150]A. Things controlled by the left--[/size]
1. The media
2. Hollywood/entertainment
3. The education system
4. The deep state resistance
5. The house[size=150]B. Middle-ish[/size] Judiciary--The left doesn't control the judiciary necessarily, but they have lots of activist judges throwing the role of a judge out the window to resist everything Trump does. The supreme court is center right, but it takes a while to get things there. Senate--Republicans control the senate buy the republicans are chicken shits who barely ever do anything, so they are not really part of the right. It also takes 60 votes to pass anything in the senate because of the stupid filibuster rule. [size=150]C. things controlled by the right-[/size]
1.The presidency (Trump)
--
So basically you have 5 things controlled by the left and one by the right.
The question becomes do you really consider the Trump presidency right wing. On many issues like trade and Social Security, he's like an IHJ type socialist.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Wazzzup on March 12, 2019, 05:15:37 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 12, 2019, 05:15:37 PM
This is something I've thought about before and it's what worries me.Since FDR, the movement leftward among Republicans and Democrats alike is tangible and unstoppable. There was a brief period in 90's with the Gingrich contract with Americans that this was slowed, but that's been it for many decades. Progressives won the culture wars.Quote
While there have been some hiccups along the way, America throughout its history has been moving leftward. In many ways that was good, BUT what happens if it NEVER stops going leftward? Will we become a kind of variation of the Soviet Union one day? I believe so.
Not just America but western society has always moved more and more leftward, so unless something drastic happens it will continue to do so, and when it goes too far, which IMO we are on the edge of, it will be our undoing.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2019, 05:19:07 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2019, 05:19:07 PM
I m glad we are re-railed, thank you SB I like that going issue by issue.Quote from: "Wazzzup"
here is another way to think about it--[size=150]A. Things controlled by the left--[/size]
1. The media
2. Hollywood/entertainment
3. The education system
4. The deep state resistance
5. The house[size=150]B. Middle-ish[/size] Judiciary--The left doesn't control the judiciary necessarily, but they have lots of activist judges throwing the role of a judge out the window to resist everything Trump does. The supreme court is center right, but it takes a while to get things there. Senate--Republicans control the senate buy the republicans are chicken shits who barely ever do anything, so they are not really part of the right. It also takes 60 votes to pass anything in the senate because of the stupid filibuster rule. [size=150]C. things controlled by the right-[/size]
1.The presidency (Trump)
--
So basically you have 5 things controlled by the left and one by the right.
B is left wing, including the senate. And C is middle-ish. The SCOTUS is becoming a little less activist, but that aint right wing. That's just slowing down the prog agenda temporarily.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2019, 07:20:08 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 12, 2019, 07:20:08 PM
Be glad ya live in Canada IHJ.
Cuz there's help for recovering alcoholics such as yourself in Canada.
In the States not so much. Heck in the states you woulda ended up ln the streets or dead, IHJ.
I'm glad the medicare and our generous social welfare system helped you IHJ.
Me thinks someone as fragile as yourself couldnt survive in America IHJ.
Actually, our CP American employees receive better health care they we do in Canada because they don't have the wait times for essential services. They receive full prescription drug plans, vision and dental care too. Things you don't have according to your story about your teeth rotting out of your head. Maybe you can't afford a toothbrush and floss either.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Thiel on March 12, 2019, 08:30:17 PM
Post by: Thiel on March 12, 2019, 08:30:17 PM
On the other hand, illegal immigration is only good for law enforcement ans slimy factory farm owners.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Gaon on March 12, 2019, 11:42:16 PM
Post by: Gaon on March 12, 2019, 11:42:16 PM
Since FDR, the movement leftward among Republicans and Democrats alike is tangible and unstoppable. There was a brief period in 90's with the Gingrich contract with Americans that this was slowed, but that's been it for many decades. Progressives won the culture wars.Quote
While there have been some hiccups along the way, America throughout its history has been moving leftward. In many ways that was good, BUT what happens if it NEVER stops going leftward? Will we become a kind of variation of the Soviet Union one day? I believe so.
Not just America but western society has always moved more and more leftward, so unless something drastic happens it will continue to do so, and when it goes too far, which IMO we are on the edge of, it will be our undoing.
I would say America needs a right wing party, but if the Republican Party is too timid to run on a rightist platform there's not much hope for a new party. Actually, America will stay a two party state forever, with the political landscape moving even further left.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2019, 06:47:39 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2019, 06:47:39 PM
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Frood on March 13, 2019, 06:59:07 PM
Post by: Frood on March 13, 2019, 06:59:07 PM
In the absence of struggling, people go stupid as evidenced by Progressives, Virtue Signalers, Socialists, and Communists.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2019, 07:20:58 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2019, 07:20:58 PM
I can't wait until a big CME shoots out of the sun at just the right trajectory to blanket the earth with technology quashing revenge.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
In the absence of struggling, people go stupid as evidenced by Progressives, Virtue Signalers, Socialists, and Communists.
A CME?
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Frood on March 13, 2019, 07:21:49 PM
Post by: Frood on March 13, 2019, 07:21:49 PM
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2019, 07:37:35 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 13, 2019, 07:37:35 PM
Coronal Mass EjectionQuote from: "Dinky Dianna"
I had to look up what that is.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Frood on March 13, 2019, 07:46:01 PM
Post by: Frood on March 13, 2019, 07:46:01 PM
Coronal Mass EjectionQuote from: "Dinky Dianna"
I had to look up what that is.
ac_blush
It wouldn't bode well in 2019.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 14, 2019, 11:10:13 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 14, 2019, 11:10:13 AM
California officials say it aided in woman's slaying
SAN FRANCISCO — Officials in the Northern California city of San Jose Wednesday criticized so-called sanctuary policies they say prevented federal authorities from detaining a gang member in the country illegally before he allegedly killed a woman.
San Jose Police Chief Eddie Garcia said Carlos Eduardo Arevalo Carranza, 24, stalked Bambi Larson's neighbourhood before beating and stabbing her to death in her home.
The immigrant from El Salvador had been on the radar of Immigration and Customs Enforcement since 2013, when he failed to show up in immigration court.
Arevalo Carranza, who was homeless and had several convictions for felony offences, was arrested Monday night in the Feb. 28 killing of Larson, 59, a manager at medical testing company Roche Sequencing Solutions in San Jose.
A self-admitted gang member, he has a long criminal history in the San Francisco Bay Area and Los Angeles spanning five years.
He was on probation for the possession of methamphetamine, paraphernalia, false imprisonment and burglary, Garcia said.
San Jose Mayor Sam Liccardo said Wednesday it's time for Santa Clara County officials to reconsider a policy that ignores federal hold requests for predatory felons.
He said he has been urging county officials to treat violent criminals in the country illegally differently from the rest of those who entered the U.S. without legal permission.
"We're not asking the county to detain anyone a minute longer than the law and the constitution allow," Liccardo told The Associated Press Wednesday.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Wazzzup on March 14, 2019, 12:55:17 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 14, 2019, 12:55:17 PM
if this mayor had reconsidered this sooner this woman would still be alive.One of the best examples of the leftist lunacy that permeates the US is sanctuary cities for illegal aliens who are sometimes violent repeat offenders.Quote from: "seoulbro"Sanctuary law ripped
California officials say it aided in woman's slaying
SAN FRANCISCO — Officials in the Northern California city of San Jose Wednesday criticized so-called sanctuary policies they say prevented federal authorities from detaining a gang member in the country illegally before he allegedly killed a woman.
San Jose Police Chief Eddie Garcia said Carlos Eduardo Arevalo Carranza, 24, stalked Bambi Larson's neighbourhood before beating and stabbing her to death in her home.
The immigrant from El Salvador had been on the radar of Immigration and Customs Enforcement since 2013, when he failed to show up in immigration court.
Arevalo Carranza, who was homeless and had several convictions for felony offences, was arrested Monday night in the Feb. 28 killing of Larson, 59, a manager at medical testing company Roche Sequencing Solutions in San Jose.
A self-admitted gang member, he has a long criminal history in the San Francisco Bay Area and Los Angeles spanning five years.
He was on probation for the possession of methamphetamine, paraphernalia, false imprisonment and burglary, Garcia said.
San Jose Mayor Sam Liccardo said Wednesday it's time for Santa Clara County officials to reconsider a policy that ignores federal hold requests for predatory felons.
He said he has been urging county officials to treat violent criminals in the country illegally differently from the rest of those who entered the U.S. without legal permission.
"We're not asking the county to detain anyone a minute longer than the law and the constitution allow," Liccardo told The Associated Press Wednesday.
Goes to show not only do democrats not want to deport illegals, many don't even want to deport illegals who are habitual criminals and a serious danger to Americans. Disgusting and digraceful.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 14, 2019, 01:14:03 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 14, 2019, 01:14:03 PM
One of the best examples of the leftist lunacy that permeates the US is sanctuary cities for illegal aliens who are sometimes violent repeat offenders.Quote from: "seoulbro"Sanctuary law ripped
California officials say it aided in woman's slaying
SAN FRANCISCO — Officials in the Northern California city of San Jose Wednesday criticized so-called sanctuary policies they say prevented federal authorities from detaining a gang member in the country illegally before he allegedly killed a woman.
San Jose Police Chief Eddie Garcia said Carlos Eduardo Arevalo Carranza, 24, stalked Bambi Larson's neighbourhood before beating and stabbing her to death in her home.
The immigrant from El Salvador had been on the radar of Immigration and Customs Enforcement since 2013, when he failed to show up in immigration court.
Arevalo Carranza, who was homeless and had several convictions for felony offences, was arrested Monday night in the Feb. 28 killing of Larson, 59, a manager at medical testing company Roche Sequencing Solutions in San Jose.
A self-admitted gang member, he has a long criminal history in the San Francisco Bay Area and Los Angeles spanning five years.
He was on probation for the possession of methamphetamine, paraphernalia, false imprisonment and burglary, Garcia said.
San Jose Mayor Sam Liccardo said Wednesday it's time for Santa Clara County officials to reconsider a policy that ignores federal hold requests for predatory felons.
He said he has been urging county officials to treat violent criminals in the country illegally differently from the rest of those who entered the U.S. without legal permission.
"We're not asking the county to detain anyone a minute longer than the law and the constitution allow," Liccardo told The Associated Press Wednesday.
Goes to show not only do democrats not want to deport illegals, many don't even want to deport illegals who are habitual criminals and a serious danger to Americans. Disgusting and digraceful.
Insane prog anarchy.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Wazzzup on March 18, 2019, 01:49:31 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 18, 2019, 01:49:31 PM
Why would a republican run against Trump? Because Trump is on the right and many republicans like Jeb, are leftists.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 19, 2019, 02:49:24 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 19, 2019, 02:49:24 PM
Two news stories in particular this week reminded me of the premise in the OPQuote from: "Wazzzup"Jeb Bush says a Republican should run against Trump in 2020https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/15/jeb-bush-trump-2020-1223047
Why would a republican run against Trump? Because Trump is on the right and many republicans like Jeb, are leftists.
I like Trump, but I don't like Republicans. They are cowardly progs.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Wazzzup on March 19, 2019, 07:02:33 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 19, 2019, 07:02:33 PM
We've got two parties in the US one (democrats) want to drive us off the prog cliff as fast as they can and another (republicans) want to slowly drive us off the prog cliff. Either way we're going off the prog cliff, its just a question of how long.Two news stories in particular this week reminded me of the premise in the OPQuote from: "Wazzzup"Jeb Bush says a Republican should run against Trump in 2020https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/15/jeb-bush-trump-2020-1223047
Why would a republican run against Trump? Because Trump is on the right and many republicans like Jeb, are leftists.
I like Trump, but I don't like Republicans. They are cowardly progs.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 19, 2019, 07:09:56 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 19, 2019, 07:09:56 PM
We've got two parties in the US one (democrats) want to drive us off the prog cliff as fast as they can and another (republicans) want to slowly drive us off the prog cliff. Either way we're going off the prog cliff, its just a question of how long.Quote
Brother, we have no choice here either. The three main national parties and their provincial counterparts are in a race to the prog bottom. Your "choice" at the ballot box is how fast do you want to get there.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Wazzzup on March 19, 2019, 08:14:13 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 19, 2019, 08:14:13 PM
Sad but true. Same with Western Europe.We've got two parties in the US one (democrats) want to drive us off the prog cliff as fast as they can and another (republicans) want to slowly drive us off the prog cliff. Either way we're going off the prog cliff, its just a question of how long.Quote
Brother, we have no choice here either. The three main national parties and their provincial counterparts are in a race to the prog bottom. Your "choice" at the ballot box is how fast do you want to get there.
Much like many great civilizations IMO the west is coming to an end. I don't know what the progtards will turn it into, but it will be ugly, totalitarian and horrific for those living under it. Maybe one day those forced to exist under it will get sick of it and overthrow it, but I will probably be long gone before that happens.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 19, 2019, 09:24:31 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 19, 2019, 09:24:31 PM
We've got two parties in the US one (democrats) want to drive us off the prog cliff as fast as they can and another (republicans) want to slowly drive us off the prog cliff. Either way we're going off the prog cliff, its just a question of how long.Quote
Brother, we have no choice here either. The three main national parties and their provincial counterparts are in a race to the prog bottom. Your "choice" at the ballot box is how fast do you want to get there.
Much like many great civilizations IMO the west is coming to an end. I don't know what the progtards will turn it into, but it will be ugly, totalitarian and horrific for those living under it. Maybe one day those forced to exist under it will get sick of it and overthrow it, but I will probably be long gone before that happens.:sad:
I too think we are watching the coming collapse of Western civilization. It will accelerate at a breath taking speed in a decade.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: cc on March 19, 2019, 09:46:35 PM
Post by: cc on March 19, 2019, 09:46:35 PM
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 19, 2019, 09:51:06 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 19, 2019, 09:51:06 PM
Another DittoQuote from: "cc"
My focus is on making my kids lives better. Gawd knows our elected leaders are not.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Wazzzup on March 19, 2019, 10:05:42 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 19, 2019, 10:05:42 PM
I agree that's the best thing to do. Probably the only thing we can do.Another DittoQuote from: "cc"
My focus is on making my kids lives better. Gawd knows our elected leaders are not.
BTW shen something that might interest you.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 19, 2019, 10:10:06 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 19, 2019, 10:10:06 PM
Another DittoQuote from: "cc"
My focus is on making my kids lives better. Gawd knows our elected leaders are not.
It's really the only option. Like you, I have two boys. I want a freer, more prosperous society for them. The powers that be have different ideas. My job is to make their job of subjugating them difficult.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 19, 2019, 10:49:16 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 19, 2019, 10:49:16 PM
Another DittoQuote from: "cc"
My focus is on making my kids lives better. Gawd knows our elected leaders are not.
BTW shen something that might interest you.
Chinese immigrants that have been in Canada more than 10 years vote overwhelmingly for the Conservatives. They are the most reliably Tory voters in Canada. If the GOP doesn't go after this natural demographic and welcome them into the party than they don't really want to win elections.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Gaon on March 19, 2019, 11:52:26 PM
Post by: Gaon on March 19, 2019, 11:52:26 PM
Another DittoQuote from: "cc"
My focus is on making my kids lives better. Gawd knows our elected leaders are not.
BTW shen something that might interest you.
Chinese immigrants that have been in Canada more than 10 years vote overwhelmingly for the Conservatives. They are the most reliably Tory voters in Canada. If the GOP doesn't go after this natural demographic and welcome them into the party than they don't really want to win elections.
I thought the Asians here in Vancouver were more conservative than everyone else. It's still a leftist city in a leftist country on a leftist continent.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 21, 2019, 11:19:48 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 21, 2019, 11:19:48 AM
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Wazzzup on March 24, 2019, 02:07:16 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 24, 2019, 02:07:16 AM
Years ago My state had a governor. He repealed the death penalty and pulled all sorts of murderers juries had convicted off death row. He was a republican.
Just recently anther guy became governor--he made Illinois a sanctuary state for illegals, AND he set it up so women on medicaid would get taxpayer paid abortions. He was a republican.
Three of the worst most progtard policies in my states history put in by republicans not democrats.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Bricktop on March 24, 2019, 02:39:01 AM
Post by: Bricktop on March 24, 2019, 02:39:01 AM
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: JOE on March 24, 2019, 12:14:38 PM
Post by: JOE on March 24, 2019, 12:14:38 PM
I follow Israeli politics more than Canadian and American politics. Israel has a real and vibrant right wing. This is something that is lacking in North America. There is no political spectrum on this continent and it makes politics boring to observe. Trump would be Likud lite in Israel. Andrew Scheer would be Kulanu.Quote from: "Gaon"
Anyways I don't agree with you.
Yes there is a Left & Right in North America just like there is everywhere else.
They're just not defined the same way & their boundaries differ from 1 nation to the next.
It's difficult to compare Israel with Canada or the United States.
I believe Israel is an officially religious state. So is Iran. For better or worse, there are religious parties & religious figures influence legislation in both countries. An equivalent does not exist in Canada. Canada is primarily a secular state with some Judeo Christian influences. However the head of a Chirch does not implement nor have a say in legislation in Canada.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 24, 2019, 03:37:42 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 24, 2019, 03:37:42 PM
I follow Israeli politics more than Canadian and American politics. Israel has a real and vibrant right wing. This is something that is lacking in North America. There is no political spectrum on this continent and it makes politics boring to observe. Trump would be Likud lite in Israel. Andrew Scheer would be Kulanu.Quote from: "Gaon"
You are absolutely correct. I have lived in countries with a right wing on the political spectrum. Canada and the US are not among them. Old Joe has never been anywhere, so that is why he is so ignorant of what a right wing is. Hell, he compares Israel to Iran.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on March 24, 2019, 04:45:21 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 24, 2019, 04:45:21 PM
I follow Israeli politics more than Canadian and American politics. Israel has a real and vibrant right wing. This is something that is lacking in North America. There is no political spectrum on this continent and it makes politics boring to observe. Trump would be Likud lite in Israel. Andrew Scheer would be Kulanu.Quote from: "Gaon"
You are absolutely correct. I have lived in countries with a right wing on the political spectrum. Canada and the US are not among them. Old Joe has never been anywhere, so that is why he is so ignorant of what a right wing is. Hell, he compares Israel to Iran.ac_lmfao
I'll give JOE the benefit of the doubt and assume he's not just looking for attention..
But, yes I can tell JOE has never been anywhere.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Thiel on April 02, 2019, 01:28:03 AM
Post by: Thiel on April 02, 2019, 01:28:03 AM
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on April 02, 2019, 03:35:54 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 02, 2019, 03:35:54 PM
As a libertarian, it bothers me that there is no party that represents my views including Maxime Bernier's People's Party. Progressives own the political landscape across North America. There is no left-right, socialist-conservative, liberal-social conservative anymore. It's progressives and those that want to slow, but not reverse their agenda.Quote from: "Thiel"
Now that there is blowback in Western Europe, North America is the most progtard area in the world.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on April 02, 2019, 05:43:25 PM
Post by: Anonymous on April 02, 2019, 05:43:25 PM
EXCLUSIVE: 'THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY DOES NOT SPEAK FOR ME' — IMMIGRANT WOMAN SHREDS THE PARTY THAT THINKS IT OWNS HER VOTE
As "an immigrant, minority, Asian woman," new Daily Caller video columnist Lisa Smiley understands why many people think she "should be a Democrat.
However, as Smiley explains in this Daily Caller video, she's not about to join a party that seeks to "reduce people to their group's identity." Sadly, the party that "claims to be the party of immigrants, minorities, the marginalized and women," and to "represent the little guy, and stand up to those conservative Republicans against the evil white male privilege," doesn't speak for her or her values.
Smiley, a Chinese-descended two-time immigrant (to New Zealand and the United States) comes from a family that "came in legally" and went "through the process." Democrats, on the other hand, say to "hell with the process," insisting we "let anyone and everyone" in despite the "millions of dreamers who waited in line" to enter the United States legally.
Smiley goes on to explain several key differences between Democratic Party values and the values that defined and built America with the help of millions of immigrants who did things the right way, like her and her family.
"So, as an immigrant minority Asian woman, the Democratic Party does not speak for me, nor does it represent any of my values," she said. "You reduce people to their group's identity, and frankly it's degrading. And that is why I'm not a Democrat."
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Gaon on September 06, 2021, 08:40:26 PM
Post by: Gaon on September 06, 2021, 08:40:26 PM
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on September 06, 2021, 10:04:50 PM
Post by: Anonymous on September 06, 2021, 10:04:50 PM
I cannot vote in this election. But if I was allowed to vote I do not know if I would. There is nothing on the right to vote for .
I aint voting for any party that has seats in parliament now.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on September 17, 2021, 12:00:41 PM
Post by: Anonymous on September 17, 2021, 12:00:41 PM
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: cc on September 17, 2021, 01:00:27 PM
Post by: cc on September 17, 2021, 01:00:27 PM
....... but also good for Trudeau as Bernier's party siphons votes from the CPC.Quote from: seoulbro post_id=420677 time=1631894441 user_id=114
Exactly. Bad move. "Feel good" only. Helps keeps Trudy in power
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on September 17, 2021, 01:49:15 PM
Post by: Anonymous on September 17, 2021, 01:49:15 PM
....... but also good for Trudeau as Bernier's party siphons votes from the CPC.Quote from: seoulbro post_id=420677 time=1631894441 user_id=114
Exactly. Bad move. "Feel good" only. Helps keeps Trudy in power
I don't care, I am voting PPC. The Cons are Trudeau Lite. There's little to lose because we are screwed either way.
There is a lot I don't like about the PPC, especially on opening up Canada to agricultural imports, allowing private health care, and free trade. But, they are the only party that will lower immigration and that is the number one issue for me and probably most blue collar workers.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on September 17, 2021, 04:47:55 PM
Post by: Anonymous on September 17, 2021, 04:47:55 PM
....... but also good for Trudeau as Bernier's party siphons votes from the CPC.Quote from: seoulbro post_id=420677 time=1631894441 user_id=114
Exactly. Bad move. "Feel good" only. Helps keeps Trudy in power
I don't care, I am voting PPC. The Cons are Trudeau Lite. There's little to lose because we are screwed either way.
There is a lot I don't like about the PPC, especially on opening up Canada to agricultural imports, allowing private health care, and free trade. But, they are the only party that will lower immigration and that is the number one issue for me and probably most blue collar workers.
I voted this morning in an advance poll. I voted Maverick. I want Saskatchewan out of Canada.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Thiel on September 17, 2021, 08:06:41 PM
Post by: Thiel on September 17, 2021, 08:06:41 PM
....... but also good for Trudeau as Bernier's party siphons votes from the CPC.Quote from: seoulbro post_id=420677 time=1631894441 user_id=114
Exactly. Bad move. "Feel good" only. Helps keeps Trudy in power
I don't care, I am voting PPC. The Cons are Trudeau Lite. There's little to lose because we are screwed either way.
There is a lot I don't like about the PPC, especially on opening up Canada to agricultural imports, allowing private health care, and free trade. But, they are the only party that will lower immigration and that is the number one issue for me and probably most blue collar workers.
I voted this morning in an advance poll. I voted Maverick. I want Saskatchewan out of Canada.
I want more political choice. But in our system, minor parties are spoilers.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: cc on September 17, 2021, 08:17:08 PM
Post by: cc on September 17, 2021, 08:17:08 PM
I want more political choice. But in our system, minor parties are spoilers.
That's how most all Parliamentary systems work ... or rather don't work
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on September 17, 2021, 09:17:03 PM
Post by: Anonymous on September 17, 2021, 09:17:03 PM
I want more political choice. But in our system, minor parties are spoilers.
That's how most all Parliamentary systems work ... or rather don't work
Not in most European coutries. Not in Israel. Not in South Korea.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on September 17, 2021, 09:51:49 PM
Post by: Anonymous on September 17, 2021, 09:51:49 PM
I want more political choice. But in our system, minor parties are spoilers.
That's how most all Parliamentary systems work ... or rather don't work
Not in most European coutries. Not in Israel. Not in South Korea.
Taiwan has a hybrid of first past the post and proportional representation for the Legislative Yuan elections.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on September 17, 2021, 09:59:19 PM
Post by: Anonymous on September 17, 2021, 09:59:19 PM
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on September 17, 2021, 10:17:04 PM
Post by: Anonymous on September 17, 2021, 10:17:04 PM
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on September 17, 2021, 11:12:36 PM
Post by: Anonymous on September 17, 2021, 11:12:36 PM
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on September 18, 2021, 04:49:51 PM
Post by: Anonymous on September 18, 2021, 04:49:51 PM
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on September 18, 2021, 07:47:37 PM
Post by: Anonymous on September 18, 2021, 07:47:37 PM
Does anyone know anybody voting for Trudeau? I don't.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Odinson on September 19, 2021, 11:38:38 AM
Post by: Odinson on September 19, 2021, 11:38:38 AM
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on September 19, 2021, 11:41:42 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 19, 2021, 11:41:42 AM
Listen to this old sage.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh7-WPKoWG4
The results on Monday night will confirm what he said.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on September 19, 2021, 12:27:41 PM
Post by: Anonymous on September 19, 2021, 12:27:41 PM
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on September 19, 2021, 12:28:15 PM
Post by: Anonymous on September 19, 2021, 12:28:15 PM
Listen to this old sage.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh7-WPKoWG4
Universal suffrage is retarded.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on September 19, 2021, 08:09:21 PM
Post by: Anonymous on September 19, 2021, 08:09:21 PM
Tomorrow night we will get the results of this horseshit election.:ththbored:
Vote Maverick.
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on September 20, 2021, 01:27:14 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 20, 2021, 01:27:14 AM
Title: Re: There is no political right in Canada and America
Post by: Anonymous on September 20, 2021, 11:56:19 AM
Post by: Anonymous on September 20, 2021, 11:56:19 AM
Socialist one two three or four. That is your non choices.
I gather you aren't voting.