Title: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 12:12:30 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 12:12:30 AM
Police commissioner Mike Bush confirmed that one person is in custody, but said it was unclear if others were involved.
Witnesses told local media they ran for their lives, and saw people bleeding on the ground outside the Al Noor mosque.
Authorities advised all mosques to shut down until further notice. All Christchurch schools are on lockdown.
In a statement to the nation, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said details were not yet clear, "but I can tell you now - this will be one of New Zealand's darkest days".
Mohan Ibrahim, who was in the area of the Al Noor mosque, told the New Zealand Herald: "At first we thought it was an electric shock but then all these people started running.
"I still have friends inside.
"I have been calling my friends but there are many I haven't heard from. I am scared for my friends lives."
It is not yet known how many shooters there were, but the Herald reports that one gunman is believed to be an Australian who has written a manifesto outlining his intentions. In it, he espouses far-right ideology and anti-immigrant ideology.
Unverified footage purportedly taken by the shooter has emerged, suggesting he filmed as he shot victims.
Witnesses at the Al Noor mosque, located in central Christchurch along Deans Avenue, facing Hagley Park, reported seeing people bleeding on the ground outside the building, but such details have not been confirmed by police or officials.
One unnamed survivor told TV New Zealand he saw a gunman shoot a man directly in the chest. He estimated that the shooting lasted for 20 minutes and that up to 60 people may have been injured.
The gunman reportedly targeted the men's prayer room in the mosque, then moved to the women's room.
"What I did was basically just waiting and praying, God please, let this guy run out of bullets," the witness said.
"He came to this side, he shot this side, he went to another room and went to the ladies' section and shot them. I just heard one of the ladies has died."
How are the authorities responding?
A spokeswoman said Canterbury District Health Board (CDHB) has activated its mass casualty plan, according to New Zealand news site Stuff.nz.
The plan includes clearing emergency room space for casualties. The spokeswoman did not comment on how many patients were expected.
Police have cleared Cathedral Square, where thousands of children were holding a rally for action on climate change.
Police Commissioner Mike Bush said: "Police are responding with its full capability to manage the situation, but the risk environment remains extremely high.
"Police recommend that residents across Christchurch remain off the streets and indoors until further notice."
Australia's Prime Minister Scott Morrison tweeted: "I'm horrified by the reports I'm following of the serious shooting in Christchurch, New Zealand. The situation is still unfolding but our thoughts and prayers are with our Kiwi cousins."
Who has been caught up in the attack?
As well as numerous witness reports of casualties, a reporter following the Bangladesh cricket team, who are currently in New Zealand, tweeted that the team had "escaped from a mosque near Hagley Park where there were active shooters".
Player Tamim Iqbal tweeted that the "entire team got saved from active shooters".
Bangladesh Cricket Board spokesman Jalal Yunus said most of the team had gone to mosque by bus and were about to go inside when the incident took place.
"They are safe. But they are mentally shocked. We have asked the team to stay confined in the hotel," he told the AFP news agency.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 12:25:57 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 12:25:57 AM
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 12:51:04 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 12:51:04 AM
Authorities have fou people in custody, three men and one woman.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Frood on March 15, 2019, 12:51:15 AM
Post by: Frood on March 15, 2019, 12:51:15 AM
Maybe we can gps track them?
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 12:52:47 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 12:52:47 AM
Ban Australian born Brits in NZ?Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Maybe we can gps track them?
Was one or more of the shooters from Australia?
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Frood on March 15, 2019, 12:53:39 AM
Post by: Frood on March 15, 2019, 12:53:39 AM
Ban Australian born Brits in NZ?Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Maybe we can gps track them?
Was one or more of the shooters from Australia?
The one was. There are three others in custody.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 12:59:14 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 12:59:14 AM
Ban Australian born Brits in NZ?Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Maybe we can gps track them?
Was one or more of the shooters from Australia?
The one was. There are three others in custody.
I haven't read many details about it..
I only found out about this senseless tragedy an hour ago.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 01:13:46 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 01:13:46 AM
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Wazzzup on March 15, 2019, 01:25:11 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 15, 2019, 01:25:11 AM
I had no idea there were even mosques in NZ, much less any animosity by any Aussie's against them.
EDIT: this one says the gunman liked Trump
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 06:45:00 AM
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 06:45:00 AM
Ban Australian born Brits in NZ?Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Maybe we can gps track them?
Was one or more of the shooters from Australia?
Doesn't mean they are Australian... Australia is multicultural.
49 dead as I type this.
They're putting guards all over Perth's mosques.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 06:46:24 AM
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 06:46:24 AM
Just read-- 4 in custody (3 men and a woman) and 30 or more believed dead, very sad.Quote from: "Wazzzup"
I had no idea there were even mosques in NZ, much less any animosity by any Aussie's against them.
EDIT: this one says the gunman liked Trumphttps://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8642007/christchurch-mosque-shootings-brit-gunman-racist-manifesto-trump-supporter/
Australians do not want Muslims in Australia. That I do know.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 08:57:37 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 08:57:37 AM
Ban Australian born Brits in NZ?Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Maybe we can gps track them?
Was one or more of the shooters from Australia?
Doesn't mean they are Australian... Australia is multicultural.49 dead as I type this.
They're putting guards all over Perth's mosques.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 09:11:07 AM
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 09:11:07 AM
I must go find out more. brb.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 09:27:15 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 09:27:15 AM
Apparently the shooter in NZ was born in Australia and was a gym instructor at one stage.Quote from: "caskur"
I must go find out more. brb.
Here's what I just read caskur.
The gunman has been confirmed to be Australian Brenton Tarrant, 28, who wrote a 73-page manifesto declaring his evil intentions.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 09:29:01 AM
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 09:29:01 AM
The purported manifesto of the Christchurch gunman says he is a working-class Australian — and calls out the Sydney gang rapes and terror attacks as driving factors in his war on non-whites.
A series of posts by the Australian man held in connection with the Christchurch attacks over the last two days are helping police piece together the sequence of events behind the plot.
Brenton Tarrant, 28, posted photos of his arsenal alongside the 74-page manifesto in which he described himself as "... a ordinary White man, 28 years old. Born in Australia to a working class, low income family."
He said two events triggered his self-described revenge attack — "This 2017 truck terror attack in Sweden.. and the French election result in the same year."
In the posts he spoke at length about "white supremacy", "fertility rates" and "foreign invaders", calling himself a "uniformed combatant in a war".
Prime Minister Scott Morrison, however, gave him another name, calling Tarrant "An extremist right wing violent terrorist."
Tarrant showed no remorse for his actions in his posts
.
"I only wish I could have killed more invaders, and more traitors as well," he said.
"No group ordered my attack, I make the decision myself.
"New Zealand was not the original choice for attack, I only arrived to New Zealand to live temporarily whilst I planned and trained.
"I begun planning an attack roughly two years in advance and an attack at the location in Christchurch three months in advance.
"Originally the mosque in Dunedin was the main target.
"It is a terrorist attack.
"I am a racist."
A former employer of Tarrant's has spoken out about her shock at the series of events.
Owner of Big River Fitness and Squash centre in Grafton, NSW, Tracey Gray was shocked to hear claims her former employee may have been involved in the Christchurch massacre.
"He used to work here at my fitness facility five, six, maybe seven years ago. He never showed any extremes of extremist views or any cray behaviour," she said.
Professor of Global Islamic Politics at Monash University Greg Barton also weighed in on Tarrant's motives.
"They think of themselves as a hero, but it's a coward's way of taking forward your political cause," he said.
Names written on the shooters' guns included Edward Codrington — a 19th British admiral who fought at Trafalgar — and Marco Bragadin — a 16th century Venetian lawyer killed by the Ottomans.
Another message read: "here's your migration compact."
Other targets included German chancellor Angela Merkel, Turkish president Recep Erdogan and London Mayor Sadiq Khan.
Among his heroes, Tarrant listed Anders Breivik, who shot dead 77 people in Norway in 2011.
In his rant Tarrant talked about many unrelated topics, including gun control in the United States. He also said he hoped to survive the attack, that he intended to plead not guilty and hoped to be jailed to "deplete resources from the state".
Tarrant predicted he would be released from jail after 27 years, just like Nelson Mandela, and claimed he deserved a Nobel Peace Prize.
He also claimed to be a Navy Seal involved in numerous raids against al Qaeda with 300 confirmed kills.
"I had to run along in the middle of the firefight, pick up the mag that fell out,' he said.
"There was no firefight — only the execution of innocents."
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 09:37:31 AM
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 09:37:31 AM
I wonder if today's events will emboldened the sleepers. I feel it will.
Muslims have been taking over Oz for the last 15 years. They are armed and usually involved in drug crimes.
People's pensions, unemployment handouts just do not cover everyday needs in Australia. Australia is expensive with that many rules, no one knows them, no even lawyers and judges. Immigrants inevitably turn to drug crime.
Where murder was once rare, it's now a common everyday occurence.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 09:55:06 AM
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 09:55:06 AM
All I see is disgusting politicians making ridiculous policies where everyone's money ends up in THEIR pockets and they create welfare victims.
Who really is man's enemy?
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Frood on March 15, 2019, 10:15:15 AM
Post by: Frood on March 15, 2019, 10:15:15 AM
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 10:53:56 AM
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 10:53:56 AM
But they have to control business... so it's like, the average person has no hope.
Meanwhile this guy had gripes but I do not think killing kids should pay for his gripes.
The real baddies in society have security and shooters cannot get to them.
I'm thinking also religion should be consigned to people's households.
We want societies where religion is allowed, sure, but keep it at home.
If anyone wishes to counter what I have just said, please, Id like to hear it.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Wazzzup on March 15, 2019, 10:55:51 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 15, 2019, 10:55:51 AM
The New York lawmaker condemned the fatal attack on Twitter, focusing her message on the American gun group.
Hmm...I wonder if she realizes that the NRA is an American organization and not a New Zealand organization.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Odinson on March 15, 2019, 10:56:43 AM
Post by: Odinson on March 15, 2019, 10:56:43 AM
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Frood on March 15, 2019, 10:58:12 AM
Post by: Frood on March 15, 2019, 10:58:12 AM
Except the Atheists.
They love pushing their religion of no religion.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Blazor on March 15, 2019, 11:05:36 AM
Post by: Blazor on March 15, 2019, 11:05:36 AM
Just read-- 4 in custody (3 men and a woman) and 30 or more believed dead, very sad.Quote from: "Wazzzup"
I had no idea there were even mosques in NZ, much less any animosity by any Aussie's against them.
EDIT: this one says the gunman liked Trumphttps://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8642007/christchurch-mosque-shootings-brit-gunman-racist-manifesto-trump-supporter/
The media lap it up, being a Trump supporter should not of even made part of the news. People are dead, and they still have to somehow tie it to that evil waccist Twump.
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) on Friday tore into the National Rifle Association (NRA) after at least one gunman opened fire at two New Zealand mosques, leaving at least 49 people dead.
The New York lawmaker condemned the fatal attack on Twitter, focusing her message on the American gun group.
Hmm...I wonder if she realizes that the NRA is an American organization and not a New Zealand organization.
Same with this, absolutely nothing to do with it!
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 11:06:50 AM
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 11:06:50 AM
Cant say that I´m sad about this..Quote from: "Odinson"
What is actually sad LONG TERM about this, it makes politicians MORE determined to allow Muslims to come to Western countries.
I am very sad about kids being killed. It's not their falt they were born.
Last night on TV I saw a little kid in Syria talk about being afraid... that is VERY VERY tough to take.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 11:11:27 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 11:11:27 AM
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) on Friday tore into the National Rifle Association (NRA) after at least one gunman opened fire at two New Zealand mosques, leaving at least 49 people dead.
The New York lawmaker condemned the fatal attack on Twitter, focusing her message on the American gun group.
Hmm...I wonder if she realizes that the NRA is an American organization and not a New Zealand organization.
There are people who voted for that retarded waste of skin. Hey Allie, NZ is not a state in the US.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 11:12:50 AM
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 11:12:50 AM
Most religious people are private about it, Caskur.Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Except the Atheists.
They love pushing their religion of no religion.
And yet as an artist, I'm gobsmacked at Churches and Mosques and the artform they are. Truly the ultimate expression of love. In that I mean the work that goes into making them. It's inspirational.
Look them up sometime.
That's another story I guess... Right now doctors are trying to save lives. This tragic event is not over.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Wazzzup on March 15, 2019, 11:15:37 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 15, 2019, 11:15:37 AM
Just read-- 4 in custody (3 men and a woman) and 30 or more believed dead, very sad.Quote from: "Wazzzup"
I had no idea there were even mosques in NZ, much less any animosity by any Aussie's against them.
EDIT: this one says the gunman liked Trumphttps://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8642007/christchurch-mosque-shootings-brit-gunman-racist-manifesto-trump-supporter/
The media lap it up, being a Trump supporter should not of even made part of the news. People are dead, and they still have to somehow tie it to that evil waccist Twump.Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) on Friday tore into the National Rifle Association (NRA) after at least one gunman opened fire at two New Zealand mosques, leaving at least 49 people dead.
The New York lawmaker condemned the fatal attack on Twitter, focusing her message on the American gun group.
Hmm...I wonder if she realizes that the NRA is an American organization and not a New Zealand organization.ac_dunno
Same with this, absolutely nothing to do with it!
This was a terrible thing that happened, and the people who did it should be executed.
but now, of course, the media, the dems and the leftards world wide will do everything they can to try and score political points with this. They always do.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 11:17:52 AM
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 11:17:52 AM
The media lap it up, being a Trump supporter should not of even made part of the news. People are dead, and they still have to somehow tie it to that evil waccist Twump.Quote from: "Blazor"
The media love this shit alright.
It's ironic to that it happened on the School Children's Strike. The news about that has been dumped.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 11:21:20 AM
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 11:21:20 AM
Just read-- 4 in custody (3 men and a woman) and 30 or more believed dead, very sad.Quote from: "Wazzzup"
I had no idea there were even mosques in NZ, much less any animosity by any Aussie's against them.
EDIT: this one says the gunman liked Trumphttps://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8642007/christchurch-mosque-shootings-brit-gunman-racist-manifesto-trump-supporter/
The media lap it up, being a Trump supporter should not of even made part of the news. People are dead, and they still have to somehow tie it to that evil waccist Twump.Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) on Friday tore into the National Rifle Association (NRA) after at least one gunman opened fire at two New Zealand mosques, leaving at least 49 people dead.
The New York lawmaker condemned the fatal attack on Twitter, focusing her message on the American gun group.
Hmm...I wonder if she realizes that the NRA is an American organization and not a New Zealand organization.ac_dunno
Same with this, absolutely nothing to do with it!
This was a terrible thing that happened, and the people who did it should be executed.
but now, of course, the media, the dems and the leftards world wide will do everything they can to try and score political points with this. They always do.
People who commit mass murder definitely do deserve a death penalty.
BUT if they go to jail instead, their form should be stamped, Life in Prison, NEVER TO BE RELEASED.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 11:21:33 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 11:21:33 AM
Just read-- 4 in custody (3 men and a woman) and 30 or more believed dead, very sad.Quote from: "Wazzzup"
I had no idea there were even mosques in NZ, much less any animosity by any Aussie's against them.
EDIT: this one says the gunman liked Trumphttps://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8642007/christchurch-mosque-shootings-brit-gunman-racist-manifesto-trump-supporter/
The media lap it up, being a Trump supporter should not of even made part of the news. People are dead, and they still have to somehow tie it to that evil waccist Twump.Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) on Friday tore into the National Rifle Association (NRA) after at least one gunman opened fire at two New Zealand mosques, leaving at least 49 people dead.
The New York lawmaker condemned the fatal attack on Twitter, focusing her message on the American gun group.
Hmm...I wonder if she realizes that the NRA is an American organization and not a New Zealand organization.ac_dunno
Same with this, absolutely nothing to do with it!
This was a terrible thing that happened, and the people who did it should be executed.
but now, of course, the media, the dems and the leftards world wide will do everything they can to try and score political points with this. They always do.
They do the same with hurricanes. Immediately idiots like Warren, Sanders and AOC blame climate change even though the NOAA demonstrated how climate change has little effect on the frequency of these disasters.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: cc on March 15, 2019, 11:47:54 AM
Post by: cc on March 15, 2019, 11:47:54 AM
but now, of course, the media, the dems and the leftards world wide will do everything they can to try and score political points with this. They always do.Quote from: "Caskur"
Didn't see news last night & computer off - Seems around 50 dead & many injured
National security and foreign analyst Dr. Walid Phares (My main goto guy on things islam):
As a national security expert, here's how I try to make sense of the senseless
"the New Zealand mass shooting is a successful act of pure evil."
What happened?
Despite the temptation to rush to judgment, my rule is to wait for the facts, and let the facts speak for themselves. In this case, the facts came out really fast, in part because the perpetrators broadcasted them to the world.
Who is to blame?
What about whataboutism?
Take issues on their own merit. We don't need a terrorist attack to argue that an extremist ideology that dehumanizes people of another religion or embraces xenophobia is wrong. We can argue that every day.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 12:27:58 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 12:27:58 PM
Caskur, the mosques are full on Friday because it is the sabbath day in Islam.
I wonder where cc is at this time. She'll probably be beside herself.
I haven't read this "manifesto" but there are rumors that it contains some trollish gamer analogies and may be rather tongue in cheek, at least in part. However, there's not much about 49 corpses that's tongue in cheek.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 12:41:54 PM
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 12:41:54 PM
Yeah, I think AOC understands who and what the NRA is and how it is her local enemy even though probably unrelated to this particular terrorist.Quote from: "Peaches"
Caskur, the mosques are full on Friday because it is the sabbath day in Islam.
I wonder where cc is at this time. She'll probably be beside herself.
I haven't read this "manifesto" but there are rumors that it contains some trollish gamer analogies and may be rather tongue in cheek, at least in part. However, there's not much about 49 corpses that's tongue in cheek.
Friday is a work day... plenty of time after work to visit the Mosque Peachfuzz...
Most of them are on the Rock-n-roll....
Islam is a growing concern in Western Countries and they're causing atrocities on citizens of their host countries.
There are plenty of guys out there ready to do what this guy did today.
When you don't treat people EQUALLY you cause one sector or another, resentment. Islam are given special treatment or apologies for their misbehaviours. Some people resent that.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Blazor on March 15, 2019, 12:42:54 PM
Post by: Blazor on March 15, 2019, 12:42:54 PM
The media lap it up, being a Trump supporter should not of even made part of the news. People are dead, and they still have to somehow tie it to that evil waccist Twump.Quote from: "Blazor"
The media love this shit alright.
It's ironic to that it happened on the School Children's Strike. The news about that has been dumped.
Didnt know that!
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 01:17:42 PM
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 01:17:42 PM
The media lap it up, being a Trump supporter should not of even made part of the news. People are dead, and they still have to somehow tie it to that evil waccist Twump.Quote from: "Blazor"
The media love this shit alright.
It's ironic to that it happened on the School Children's Strike. The news about that has been dumped.
Didnt know that!
The school kids around the world went on strike over politicians not doing very much about the environment.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 01:20:40 PM
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 01:20:40 PM
Snip.Quote from: "cc"
You mucked up the quotes. I didn't wrote that.
It was Wuzz
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 01:29:36 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 01:29:36 PM
Yeah, I think AOC understands who and what the NRA is and how it is her local enemy even though probably unrelated to this particular terrorist.Quote from: "Peaches"
That unqualified imbecile does not deserve the benefit of the doubt.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: cc on March 15, 2019, 01:49:30 PM
Post by: cc on March 15, 2019, 01:49:30 PM
Snip.Quote from: "cc"
You mucked up the quotes. I didn't wrote that.
It was Wuzz
Apologies - my error in quote tags
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: cc on March 15, 2019, 01:50:59 PM
Post by: cc on March 15, 2019, 01:50:59 PM
Yeah, I think AOC understands who and what the NRA is and how it is her local enemy even though probably unrelated to this particular terrorist.Quote from: "Peaches"
That unqualified imbecile does not deserve the benefit of the doubt.
She, her opponents early Xmas present, does not.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: cc on March 15, 2019, 01:51:16 PM
Post by: cc on March 15, 2019, 01:51:16 PM
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: cc on March 15, 2019, 01:51:54 PM
Post by: cc on March 15, 2019, 01:51:54 PM
......Quote from: "Peaches"
I wonder where cc is at this time. She'll probably be beside herself
......
I'll take the opportunity to suggest Peaches look at previous posts rather than desperately attempt to
Better yet, as page changed over, I'll post a quote of my previous post
hoping that he has located "agenda-free" reading glasses in the meantime
Didn't see news last night & computer off - Seems around 50 dead & many injured
National security and foreign analyst Dr. Walid Phares (My main goto guy on things islam):
As a national security expert, here's how I try to make sense of the senseless
"the New Zealand mass shooting is a successfulact of pure evil."
What happened?
Despite the temptation to rush to judgment, my rule is to wait for the facts, and let the facts speak for themselves. In this case, the facts came out really fast, in part because the perpetrators broadcasted them to the world.The shootings at the Christchurch mosques arethe very definition of terrorism: the willful intention to do violence on innocents to serve a political agenda.
Who is to blame?In cases of terrorism my answer is always the same: the terrorists.New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern was exactly right when she said that people with such extreme views "have absolutely no place in New Zealand and in fact have no place in the world. ... We utterly reject and condemn you." Shifting the blame to anyone else is just wrong. Terrorists should be made to own their evil.
What about whataboutism?There are always some who want to make a tragedy about their agenda. That agenda may be gun control, politics, religion, or any number of other concerns, hatreds, conspiracies or righteous causes. But trying to make the issue about their cause and not about terrorism does nothing to advance our understanding of either – especially when people are in the midst of crisis, tragedy and mourning.
Take issues on their own merit. We don't need a terrorist attack to argue that an extremist ideology that dehumanizes people of another religion or embraces xenophobia is wrong. We can argue that every day.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 02:18:34 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 02:18:34 PM
Not many other posters are like that.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Wazzzup on March 15, 2019, 02:34:46 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 15, 2019, 02:34:46 PM
This is quite common from what I've seen is that extremists often borrow from both sides of the extremism fence. I remember one shooter who had both a German iron cross and a soviet hammer and sickle pin on his jacket.
IMO The political spectrum is not v shaped IMO its a circle--
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: JOE on March 15, 2019, 02:41:52 PM
Post by: JOE on March 15, 2019, 02:41:52 PM
Just read-- 4 in custody (3 men and a woman) and 30 or more believed dead, very sad.Quote from: "Wazzzup"
I had no idea there were even mosques in NZ, much less any animosity by any Aussie's against them.
EDIT: this one says the gunman liked Trumphttps://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8642007/christchurch-mosque-shootings-brit-gunman-racist-manifesto-trump-supporter/
Australians do not want Muslims in Australia. That I do know.
Is there a poor White underclass in Australia, caskur?
Similar to the cockney working class blokes in England?
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 02:44:47 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 02:44:47 PM
Yeah, I think AOC understands who and what the NRA is and how it is her local enemy even though probably unrelated to this particular terrorist.Quote from: "Peaches"
That unqualified imbecile does not deserve the benefit of the doubt.
I didn't bring her into this thread -- and in fact sought by my answer to re-direct the topic to the actual shooting event that IS the topic.
Also, I think caskur mentioned the school children striking. I'd heard a bit about it but frankly it's not being done around here since it's "spring break" anyway. At any rate, I agree that any press the children were getting has been swept away by these mosque attacks.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 02:47:33 PM
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 02:47:33 PM
And someone died last night. They didn't make it.
I've got NZ news going...
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 02:52:42 PM
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 02:52:42 PM
Just read-- 4 in custody (3 men and a woman) and 30 or more believed dead, very sad.Quote from: "Wazzzup"
I had no idea there were even mosques in NZ, much less any animosity by any Aussie's against them.
EDIT: this one says the gunman liked Trumphttps://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8642007/christchurch-mosque-shootings-brit-gunman-racist-manifesto-trump-supporter/
Australians do not want Muslims in Australia. That I do know.
Is there a poor White underclass in Australia, caskur?
Similar to the cockney working class blokes in England?
Not so much on my side of the country that I know of.... but that is changing. Fremantle port is turning into a homeless resort.
Certainly nothing like the rest of the world. If you're going to be poor, Australia is the place to be.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Wazzzup on March 15, 2019, 03:04:06 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 15, 2019, 03:04:06 PM
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 03:19:04 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 03:19:04 PM
In his manifesto the shooter said he is an environmentalist and he has contempt for the wealthiest 1 percent.Quote from: "Wazzzup"https://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/9394363-181/new-zealand-mosque-shooter-a
This is quite common from what I've seen is that extremists often borrow from both sides of the extremism fence. I remember one shooter who had both a German iron cross and a soviet hammer and sickle pin on his jacket.
IMO The political spectrum is not v shaped IMO its a circle--(//%3C/s%3Ehttps://i.ibb.co/BZ8vV4y/political-circle.gif%3Ce%3E)(//https)
Except we don't have a political center or right in North America. Left and lunatic fringe left. Enjoy your fricking 'choices'.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: JOE on March 15, 2019, 03:23:54 PM
Post by: JOE on March 15, 2019, 03:23:54 PM
Apparently the shooter in NZ was born in Australia and was a gym instructor at one stage.Quote from: "caskur"
I must go find out more. brb.
Here's what I just read caskur.
The gunman has been confirmed to be Australian Brenton Tarrant, 28, who wrote a 73-page manifesto declaring his evil intentions.(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/412babb6a81c906d089166dca5436314?width=650%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/412%20...%20?width=650%22%3Ehttps://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/412babb6a81c906d089166dca5436314?width=650%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
He must've come from a violent home, Fashionista.
Maybe he witnessed a lot of violence growing up as a child or was a victim himself.
Single parent household or a onetime foster child?
Someone with a disability and a grudge against the world?
There's always a hidden story/explanation for these incidents
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 03:32:53 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 03:32:53 PM
The National Council of Canadian Muslims says in a statement that after the attacks in Christchurch and the Quebec City mosque shooting that killed six people during prayers in 2017, Muslims feel vulnerable and unsafe and that it is "essential" that political leaders call the attacks for what they are: Islamophobic terrorism.Quote
I don't remember any political leader being pressured to call the Florida nightclub attack, the Danforth mass shooting, Bastille day attack in Nice, France, 2016 Ohio State University attack, 2015 San Bernardino attack, Boston Marathon bombing, 2015 Parramatta shooting, 2017 Lower Manhattan attack, or the Edmonton van attack Islamofascist terrorism. I don't recall pressure on elected officials to say that infidels feel vulnerable and unsafe.
Sorry islamo-apologists, islamofascists need to be held to account in the same way as any other group when they slaughter people.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 03:35:05 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 03:35:05 PM
Yeah, I think AOC understands who and what the NRA is and how it is her local enemy even though probably unrelated to this particular terrorist.Quote from: "Peaches"
That unqualified imbecile does not deserve the benefit of the doubt.
She deserves to give two dollar hummers like any other brain dead spic whore.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Wazzzup on March 15, 2019, 03:38:52 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 15, 2019, 03:38:52 PM
From now on anyone opposed to immigration in any way (even illegal immigration) will be lumped in with this shooter.Cant say that I´m sad about this..Quote from: "Odinson"What is actually sad LONG TERM about this, it makes politicians MORE determined to allow Muslims to come to Western countries.
I am very sad about kids being killed. It's not their falt they were born.
Last night on TV I saw a little kid in Syria talk about being afraid... that is VERY VERY tough to take.
That's how it works, when a Muslim shoots up a bunch of people it has nothing to do with Islam.
But when a person who is against immigration shoots ups a bunch of people, everyone who is for controlling immigration is to blame.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Odinson on March 15, 2019, 03:42:46 PM
Post by: Odinson on March 15, 2019, 03:42:46 PM
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 03:49:23 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 03:49:23 PM
Cant say that I´m sad about this..Quote from: "Odinson"What is actually sad LONG TERM about this, it makes politicians MORE determined to allow Muslims to come to Western countries.
I am very sad about kids being killed. It's not their falt they were born.
Last night on TV I saw a little kid in Syria talk about being afraid... that is VERY VERY tough to take.
That's how it works, when a Muslim shoots up a bunch of people it has nothing to do with Islam.
But when a person who is against immigration shoots ups a bunch of people, everyone who is for controlling immigration is to blame.
The double standards on this hard leftist continent are enough to drive a guy to barrel wash. Islamic attack-Muslims fear backlash, islam not responsible. Revenge attack on a mosque and Max Bernier is responsible because he wants to close loopholes in the Safe Third Party Agreement.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 03:54:06 PM
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 03:54:06 PM
Cant say that I´m sad about this..Quote from: "Odinson"What is actually sad LONG TERM about this, it makes politicians MORE determined to allow Muslims to come to Western countries.
I am very sad about kids being killed. It's not their falt they were born.
Last night on TV I saw a little kid in Syria talk about being afraid... that is VERY VERY tough to take.
That's how it works, when a Muslim shoots up a bunch of people it has nothing to do with Islam.
But when a person who is against immigration shoots ups a bunch of people, everyone who is for controlling immigration is to blame.
Then people can just throw up the West are against FGM female genital mutilation and tell them to stop practicing it and while they're at it, tell them to stop sending their 12 year old daughters back to the mother country to marry 50 yr old Uncle Paedophile.
Immigration isn't the answer. Rebuilding their war torn homes is the answer.
The Muslim men in Oz will retaliate now. Terrorist threat in Australia is, PROBABLE.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Odinson on March 15, 2019, 04:18:30 PM
Post by: Odinson on March 15, 2019, 04:18:30 PM
But if an islamist does the same, then the fault is on him alone... No matter how much he cites Quran, makes manifests and claim islamic superiority.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 04:56:16 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 04:56:16 PM
I´m guessing they are gonna start attacking right-wing whites for this..Quote from: "Odinson"
But if an islamist does the same, then the fault is on him alone... No matter how much he cites Quran, makes manifests and claim islamic superiority.
Progs started using this mass hit to further their agenda a minute after it was announced.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 04:59:05 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 04:59:05 PM
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 05:38:56 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 05:38:56 PM
......Quote from: "Peaches"
I wonder where cc is at this time. She'll probably be beside herself
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I'll take the opportunity to suggest Peaches look at previous posts rather than[size=150]desperately attempt totake advantageof the the killings [/size]
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cc has been consistent in her opposition to extremism regardless of the ideology..Quote from: "Fashionista"
Not many other posters are like that.
Relax please. There is nothing provocative in my earlier post. I only intended to express surprise that cc had not yet weighed in on the topic, inasmuch as she has an entire subforum here dedicated to related topics. And maybe not in western Canada, but around here "she must be beside herself" is an expression of concern and compassion.
On that same note, I'll overlook the ungenerous personal ad hominem noted in the large type. Having watched the terrorist's self-shot video, I'm a little verklemmt at the moment and I probably won't have any more to say on this topic.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 05:43:06 PM
Post by: caskur on March 15, 2019, 05:43:06 PM
I´m guessing they are gonna start attacking right-wing whites for this..Quote from: "Odinson"
But if an islamist does the same, then the fault is on him alone... No matter how much he cites Quran, makes manifests and claim islamic superiority.
They're going to use this to clamp down on free speech especially people who are against Muslim immigration or rather the speed of Muslim immigration.
We just had a leading Labor politician yammering on for 10 minutes about it.
They're all jumping on the bandwagon getting their faces on TV.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 07:05:46 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 07:05:46 PM
I´m guessing they are gonna start attacking right-wing whites for this..Quote from: "Odinson"
But if an islamist does the same, then the fault is on him alone... No matter how much he cites Quran, makes manifests and claim islamic superiority.
They're going to use this to clamp down on free speech especially people who are against Muslim immigration or rather the speed of Muslim immigration.
We just had a leading Labor politician yammering on for 10 minutes about it.
They're all jumping on the bandwagon getting their faces on TV.
Precisely.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 07:08:54 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 07:08:54 PM
Cant say that I´m sad about this..Quote from: "Odinson"What is actually sad LONG TERM about this, it makes politicians MORE determined to allow Muslims to come to Western countries.
I am very sad about kids being killed. It's not their falt they were born.
Last night on TV I saw a little kid in Syria talk about being afraid... that is VERY VERY tough to take.
That's how it works, when a Muslim shoots up a bunch of people it has nothing to do with Islam.
But when a person who is against immigration shoots ups a bunch of people, everyone who is for controlling immigration is to blame.
Expect more muslim immigrants in every Western country. The Christchurch massacre was a gift to anti white progs.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Wazzzup on March 15, 2019, 09:28:37 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 15, 2019, 09:28:37 PM
No doubt if this guy was antimuslim immigrant he sure didn't help his cause any; This will pave the way for more muslim immigrants .Cant say that I´m sad about this..Quote from: "Odinson"What is actually sad LONG TERM about this, it makes politicians MORE determined to allow Muslims to come to Western countries.
I am very sad about kids being killed. It's not their falt they were born.
Last night on TV I saw a little kid in Syria talk about being afraid... that is VERY VERY tough to take.
That's how it works, when a Muslim shoots up a bunch of people it has nothing to do with Islam.
But when a person who is against immigration shoots ups a bunch of people, everyone who is for controlling immigration is to blame.
Expect more muslim immigrants in every Western country. The Christchurch massacre was a gift to anti white progs.
Yep exactly right.They're going to use this to clamp down on free speech especially people who are against Muslim immigration or rather the speed of Muslim immigration.Quote from: "caskur"
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 09:54:48 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2019, 09:54:48 PM
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Gaon on March 15, 2019, 10:50:12 PM
Post by: Gaon on March 15, 2019, 10:50:12 PM
The gunman's manifesto highlights western birthrates relative to those of non-white immigrants to western countries as motivation for his attack. Tarrant frequently describes Muslim immigrants to New Zealand as "invaders" on "foreign lands" and the desire of his attack to raise race consciousness among White people around the world and eventually ignite a race war in all western nations.
Tarrant peppers his manifesto with contemporary recollections of terrorist attacks throughout Europe perpetrated by Islamic terrorists, as well as so-called historical aggression by Muslims. The manifesto is broadly characterized by a coherent and twisted ideology with a call to action, motivation, historiography, and explicit design.
This in many ways mirrors the tactics of ISIS and other radical Islamic terrorist organizations.
ISIS propaganda minister Abu Mohammad al-Adnani frequently encouraged would-be terrorists to design their attacks in order to cause as much shock as possible to spark interest in the ISIS cause.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: JOE on March 15, 2019, 11:52:39 PM
Post by: JOE on March 15, 2019, 11:52:39 PM
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: cc on March 16, 2019, 12:25:21 AM
Post by: cc on March 16, 2019, 12:25:21 AM
New Zealand shooter manifesto reads like ISIS literatureQuote from: "Gaon"
The gunman's manifesto highlights western birthrates relative to those of non-white immigrants to western countries as motivation for his attack. Tarrant frequently describes Muslim immigrants to New Zealand as "invaders" on "foreign lands" and the desire of his attack to raise race consciousness among White people around the world and eventually ignite a race war in all western nations.
Tarrant peppers his manifesto with contemporary recollections of terrorist attacks throughout Europe perpetrated by Islamic terrorists, as well as so-called historical aggression by Muslims. The manifesto is broadly characterized by a coherent and twisted ideology with a call to action, motivation, historiography, and explicit design.
This in many ways mirrors the tactics of ISIS and other radical Islamic terrorist organizations.
ISIS propaganda minister Abu Mohammad al-Adnani frequently encouraged would-be terrorists to design their attacks in order to cause as much shock as possible to spark interest in the ISIS cause.
Well thought out. Well put. In many ways it is I.S. type strategy and action
We have long been destined for chaos in both directions .. chaos that will increase to a very high level .. to a likely irreversible level.
This incident plays a bit more into that. There will be retaliation for this .. it's just another trigger, but an escalation demanding higher escalation in reply .. and there will be higher escalation in reply
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Gaon on March 16, 2019, 12:32:57 AM
Post by: Gaon on March 16, 2019, 12:32:57 AM
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 16, 2019, 12:58:59 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 16, 2019, 12:58:59 AM
New Zealand shooter manifesto reads like ISIS literatureQuote from: "Gaon"
The gunman's manifesto highlights western birthrates relative to those of non-white immigrants to western countries as motivation for his attack. Tarrant frequently describes Muslim immigrants to New Zealand as "invaders" on "foreign lands" and the desire of his attack to raise race consciousness among White people around the world and eventually ignite a race war in all western nations.
Tarrant peppers his manifesto with contemporary recollections of terrorist attacks throughout Europe perpetrated by Islamic terrorists, as well as so-called historical aggression by Muslims. The manifesto is broadly characterized by a coherent and twisted ideology with a call to action, motivation, historiography, and explicit design.
This in many ways mirrors the tactics of ISIS and other radical Islamic terrorist organizations.
ISIS propaganda minister Abu Mohammad al-Adnani frequently encouraged would-be terrorists to design their attacks in order to cause as much shock as possible to spark interest in the ISIS cause.
I remember reading online that Caucasian racist extremists and radical Islamists don't hate each other because they have a common enemy......Jews.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Gaon on March 16, 2019, 01:53:01 AM
Post by: Gaon on March 16, 2019, 01:53:01 AM
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Frood on March 16, 2019, 02:43:27 AM
Post by: Frood on March 16, 2019, 02:43:27 AM
New Zealand shooter manifesto reads like ISIS literatureQuote from: "Gaon"
The gunman's manifesto highlights western birthrates relative to those of non-white immigrants to western countries as motivation for his attack. Tarrant frequently describes Muslim immigrants to New Zealand as "invaders" on "foreign lands" and the desire of his attack to raise race consciousness among White people around the world and eventually ignite a race war in all western nations.
Tarrant peppers his manifesto with contemporary recollections of terrorist attacks throughout Europe perpetrated by Islamic terrorists, as well as so-called historical aggression by Muslims. The manifesto is broadly characterized by a coherent and twisted ideology with a call to action, motivation, historiography, and explicit design.
This in many ways mirrors the tactics of ISIS and other radical Islamic terrorist organizations.
ISIS propaganda minister Abu Mohammad al-Adnani frequently encouraged would-be terrorists to design their attacks in order to cause as much shock as possible to spark interest in the ISIS cause.
Funny how it wasn't his country and his country of Australia isn't his parent's country either.
For someone keen to kick out what he believed were hostile invaders, his logic and approach are at odds with the message he tried to push.
In fact, everything he says in his stupid manifesto is at odds with itself.
I don't believe he really believes anything he has said. He just wants big fame in a real life shooter video game and to cause civil strife and rebellions. A complete offline delusional troll.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Wazzzup on March 16, 2019, 02:49:23 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 16, 2019, 02:49:23 AM
In addition to his rightist views are his leftist ones--He says he is an "environmentalist fascist", he admires the Chinese government, and he is a "socialist" who hates the 1%
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 16, 2019, 05:25:27 AM
Post by: caskur on March 16, 2019, 05:25:27 AM
Apparently the shooter in NZ was born in Australia and was a gym instructor at one stage.Quote from: "caskur"
I must go find out more. brb.
Here's what I just read caskur.
The gunman has been confirmed to be Australian Brenton Tarrant, 28, who wrote a 73-page manifesto declaring his evil intentions.(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/412babb6a81c906d089166dca5436314?width=650%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/412%20...%20?width=650%22%3Ehttps://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/412babb6a81c906d089166dca5436314?width=650%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
He must've come from a violent home, Fashionista.
Maybe he witnessed a lot of violence growing up as a child or was a victim himself.
Single parent household or a onetime foster child?
Someone with a disability and a grudge against the world?
There's always a hidden story/explanation for these incidents
His mother was a popular high school teacher.
His father died.
Ms Gray said she recalled that Tarrant's father Rodney died from some kind of asbestos-related illness when Brenton was finishing high school.
An obituary for Rodney Tarrant in local newspaper the Daily Examiner in August 2010 said he died of cancer at the age of 49 in April 2010.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 16, 2019, 05:35:56 AM
Post by: caskur on March 16, 2019, 05:35:56 AM
I haven't heard if they have charged or released the three other people being held in custody.Quote from: "Fashionista"
They let one person go.
That person was a civilian that took his gun to help police.
The other two haven't been spoken about. We know nothing of them yet.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 16, 2019, 05:51:12 AM
Post by: caskur on March 16, 2019, 05:51:12 AM
IMO He's a loony tune all over the extremist map left and right, which, from what I've seen, is common for these types of people--Quote from: "Wazzzup"
In addition to his rightist views are his leftist ones--He says he is an "environmentalist fascist", he admires the Chinese government, and he is a "socialist" who hates the 1%
Nobody but nobody speaks like you North Americans in Australia. Nobody thinks he's a rightie or he's a leftie. That is because ALL POITICS is the same horse. The horse just changes jockeys.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 16, 2019, 11:19:26 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 16, 2019, 11:19:26 AM
Chelsea Clinton received an earful in New York City on Friday night from a college student who said the former first daughter "stoked" the hatred behind the massacre earlier in the day in Christchurch, New Zealand.
It happened at a vigil on the New York University campus for the 49 people killed and dozens of others wounded in the attack.
Some of the NYU students told Clinton she wasn't welcome at the vigil. One of the students referred to Clinton's recent condemnation of Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn, over the congresswoman's anti-Semitic remarks.
"We should expect all elected officials, regardless of party, and all public figures to not traffic in anti-Semitism," Clinton tweeted on Feb. 10.
"This, right here, is a result of a massacre stoked by people like you and the words that you put out into the world," one student told Clinton. "And I want you to know that and I want you to feel that deep down inside. Forty-nine people died because of the rhetoric you put out there."
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: cc on March 16, 2019, 12:09:53 PM
Post by: cc on March 16, 2019, 12:09:53 PM
including even when it is outright hate speech being criticized
We are at a point where anything goes in support of islam - and nothing goes in criticism of it
For Example: OTTAWA — In the wake of a mass shooting at two New Zealand mosques on Friday that left 49 dead and many others seriously injured, Conservative MPs have cancelled an event planned for Monday in Ottawa that was to feature a controversial speaker who has been accused of Islamophobia.
For some time now every event, whether pro or anti islam moves the pendulum further in favor of islam.
Even when islam kills of uses hate speech we are told to not make a big deal of it
Either way, islam gains on society's silence against it
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 16, 2019, 12:21:48 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 16, 2019, 12:21:48 PM
Now Chelsea Clinton is being blamed for the Christchurch massacre.Quote from: "Fashionista"Chelsea Clinton confronted at NYU vigil for mosque victims over her remarks about Omar
Chelsea Clinton received an earful in New York City on Friday night from a college student who said the former first daughter "stoked" the hatred behind the massacre earlier in the day in Christchurch, New Zealand.
It happened at a vigil on the New York University campus for the 49 people killed and dozens of others wounded in the attack.
Some of the NYU students told Clinton she wasn't welcome at the vigil. One of the students referred to Clinton's recent condemnation of Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn, over the congresswoman's anti-Semitic remarks.
"We should expect all elected officials, regardless of party, and all public figures to not traffic in anti-Semitism," Clinton tweeted on Feb. 10.
"This, right here, is a result of a massacre stoked by people like you and the words that you put out into the world," one student told Clinton. "And I want you to know that and I want you to feel that deep down inside. Forty-nine people died because of the rhetoric you put out there."https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/chelsea-clinton-confronted-at-nyu-vigil-for-mosque-victims-over-her-remarks-about-omar/ar-BBUPZCl?li=AAggNb9&ocid=mailsignout
Let me get this straight. Calling out Omar's anti-semitism and bigotry makes the person saying that complicit in the Christchurch bloodbath.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Wazzzup on March 16, 2019, 01:42:47 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 16, 2019, 01:42:47 PM
For many on the left, when there is a conflict between two individuals or groups, who is right or wrong no longer matter. It only matters what groups they belong to. And Muslims outrank Jews.Now Chelsea Clinton is being blamed for the Christchurch massacre.Quote from: "Fashionista"Chelsea Clinton confronted at NYU vigil for mosque victims over her remarks about Omar
Chelsea Clinton received an earful in New York City on Friday night from a college student who said the former first daughter "stoked" the hatred behind the massacre earlier in the day in Christchurch, New Zealand.
It happened at a vigil on the New York University campus for the 49 people killed and dozens of others wounded in the attack.
Some of the NYU students told Clinton she wasn't welcome at the vigil. One of the students referred to Clinton's recent condemnation of Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn, over the congresswoman's anti-Semitic remarks.
"We should expect all elected officials, regardless of party, and all public figures to not traffic in anti-Semitism," Clinton tweeted on Feb. 10.
"This, right here, is a result of a massacre stoked by people like you and the words that you put out into the world," one student told Clinton. "And I want you to know that and I want you to feel that deep down inside. Forty-nine people died because of the rhetoric you put out there."https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/chelsea-clinton-confronted-at-nyu-vigil-for-mosque-victims-over-her-remarks-about-omar/ar-BBUPZCl?li=AAggNb9&ocid=mailsignout
Let me get this straight. Calling out Omar's anti-semitism and bigotry makes the person saying that complicit in the Christchurch bloodbath.:crazy:
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 16, 2019, 01:44:59 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 16, 2019, 01:44:59 PM
Somebody says something you disagree with and you crack on their head.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: cc on March 16, 2019, 03:44:10 PM
Post by: cc on March 16, 2019, 03:44:10 PM
A. When a muslim murders 49 gay people in a Florida night club, the community immediately rallied around the mosque and muslim community he hailed from. There were repeated admonishments to warn against a backlash, and remind people how peaceful muslims are.
B. On the flip side, when a terrorist shoots up a mosque full of worshipers, the whole community is blamed and punished collectively. Public is warned there are many dangerous non-islamics out there
Has it occurred to anyone that THIS is may have been what the follower of "
If so, progressive culture has played right into his hands and given him exactly what he wanted. He's exposed that
It's only when the reverse happens that we feel outrage, precisely because it's out of the ordinary.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 16, 2019, 03:51:10 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 16, 2019, 03:51:10 PM
Somebody says something you disagree with and you crack on their head.:oeudC:
Much less stylish than the cream-pie-in-the-face that is occasionally seen in the States (we had one of those about 20 years ago in my town, a youngish woman pieing the governor after an appearance. It will always be prosecuted as an aggravated battery, which it legally is, but usually it will plea-bargain down to probation and community service for the offender.
I liked that the senator struck the kid back, in your video.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 16, 2019, 05:17:08 PM
Post by: caskur on March 16, 2019, 05:17:08 PM
Somebody says something you disagree with and you crack on their head.:oeudC:
He wasn't 15, he is 17 so that is another inaccurate story.
The senator only got 24 votes to get into Parliament. He got in because he was attached to Pauline Hanson's One Nation Party.
They're really giving him a hard time both in the Press and the other politicians both sides. Pauline Hanson kicked him out of her party.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: cc on March 16, 2019, 06:11:18 PM
Post by: cc on March 16, 2019, 06:11:18 PM
For a news organization, government-funded NPR sure does seem awfully focused on what they WON'T report about a major story, the NZ massacre.
Anyone else old enough to remember when the basics of journalism included gathering and presenting the "Who" "What" "Where" "When" and "Why" of the event? Those days are gone, replaced by progress and safety.
Facts you don't need include...Names:
-NAMES I. When it's known for sure, the name of the shooter does NOT have to be endlessly repeated. Biographical details are important, but repeating the name over and over runs the risk of glorifying the shooter in some eyes. As we've said before, in many cases the news can be told without even saying the name (or names if others were involved).
-VIDEO: We do not plan to post the video the shooter reportedly made. Use of any audio from it must be approved by a DME.
-MANIFESTO. We will be sparing on reporting about what's being referred to as the gunman's "manifesto" and do not plan to publish it in its entirety if it becomes available. There is considerable research indicating that such statements inspire others. The DME on duty must OK how we handle news from it.
SOCIAL MEDIA I. Do not retweet or otherwise point to other media outlet's posting of the video or manifesto if they do that.
-SOCIAL MEDIA II. Let our engagement teams post first about our coverage and it's certainly fine to then point to what they are sharing.
-SOCIAL MEDIA III: Be careful of other news outlets' coverage. If you wouldn't point to it on the air or in a Web story, don't share it on social media.
Good luck ever getting to the "Why" if you're not allowed to know the unsafe facts of events.
It's hard to know what's scarier,
This is the same media complex that demanded you had a right to see every last salacious photo of meat pyramids out of Abu Ghraib.
And while we are at it, Where's the dtaa on the Danforth shooter???
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 16, 2019, 11:05:49 PM
Post by: caskur on March 16, 2019, 11:05:49 PM
if EVERYTHING is written about now they won't find a jury that hasn't be contaminated.
You have to wait until court where the day to day happenings gets reported.
They haven't even buried the victims yet...
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Wazzzup on March 17, 2019, 12:18:38 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 17, 2019, 12:18:38 AM
Either way though, NPR is biased crap paid for at taxpayers expense, which is ridiculous. I'm sure Canadians understand even more what that's like since they pay for the CBC
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 17, 2019, 01:14:41 AM
Post by: caskur on March 17, 2019, 01:14:41 AM
I don't think NPR is trying not to taint the jury pool. It could actually be that they don't want to give guys like this the fame and notoriety that they often crave. (Or I may be wrong and giving NPR too much credit.)Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Yes, but the media have been told to shut up.
Either way though, NPR is biased crap paid for at taxpayers expense, which is ridiculous. I'm sure Canadians understand even more what that's like since they pay for the CBCQuote from: "Wazzzup"
This incident is being used by everybody to promote their agendas.
The media are rubbing their hands together and it's disgusting when they report another death discovered.
This mass murderer is actually very clever. He sent his manifesto to over a dozen places less than 10 before he acted... (I think it was 17 places) He picked a place full of victims... he went to a country where semi automatics are legal...He planned this a long time ago.
*Just heard a news update, shooter sent his manifesto to 30 places.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: cc on March 17, 2019, 01:28:00 AM
Post by: cc on March 17, 2019, 01:28:00 AM
It's the cops job to throttle news when appropriate re: juries etc, not the press's
NPR is press and as such are to get and give as much info as they can. The above was NRP's rules of throttling, not the cops
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 17, 2019, 01:45:02 AM
Post by: caskur on March 17, 2019, 01:45:02 AM
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 17, 2019, 09:55:33 AM
Post by: caskur on March 17, 2019, 09:55:33 AM
The family of the shooter is large and highly respected.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 17, 2019, 10:04:43 AM
Post by: caskur on March 17, 2019, 10:04:43 AM
Somebody says something you disagree with and you crack on their head.:oeudC:
It's going to get messy.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Odinson on March 17, 2019, 11:24:18 AM
Post by: Odinson on March 17, 2019, 11:24:18 AM
You never hear about them in the news..
They get slaughtered because they go to a different church.
It was only matter of time before one of these muslims went jihad.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: deadskinmask on March 17, 2019, 07:52:04 PM
Post by: deadskinmask on March 17, 2019, 07:52:04 PM
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Bricktop on March 17, 2019, 08:00:34 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 17, 2019, 08:00:34 PM
Agreed. It was well planned. The fact it was an Aussie acting in NZ says volumesQuote from: "cc"
It is a central issue.
Why did he not carry out his atrocity on home turf?
Because he could NOT procure the weaponry necessary. That he COULD procure the firearms used legally, in a foreign country, as a non-citizen is a spectacular example of irresponsible gun control and oversight by an apathetic political system.
This was not an act of terror, or of white supremacism. This was a mass murder by a deranged madman aided and facilitated by a government asleep at the wheel. Using muslims as his target of choice was simply his way of validating his lust to kill.
Watching the media and the political class leap on this tragedy and turn it into "islamophobia" and a condition of white society was nauseating and sickening.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 17, 2019, 08:14:52 PM
Post by: caskur on March 17, 2019, 08:14:52 PM
Watching the media and the political class leap on this tragedy and turn it into "islamophobia" and a condition of white society was nauseating and sickening.
It is sickening.
There is reason some do NEED semis in Australia... stations in the Top End protecting themselves from crocodiles for instance but what do they need to protect themselves from in NZ?
Strange. I never realized NZers had semis.
They'll be buying up ammo and semis in NZ now and burying them safely. It's the bullets that cause death, not guns per se.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Bricktop on March 17, 2019, 09:47:55 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 17, 2019, 09:47:55 PM
But FIVE? Wouldn't a diligent, effective and modern firearms control system report that as an anomaly?
The NZ government is complicit. It has a duty and responsibility to ensure firearms do not fall into the wrong hands. The data, had it been effectively gathered and reported, should surely have red flagged this lunatic.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 17, 2019, 09:55:37 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 17, 2019, 09:55:37 PM
It's insane he was able to buy ONE firearm.Quote from: "Bricktop"
But FIVE? Wouldn't a diligent, effective and modern firearms control system report that as an anomaly?
The NZ government is complicit. It has a duty and responsibility to ensure firearms do not fall into the wrong hands. The data, had it been effectively gathered and reported, should surely have red flagged this lunatic.
I knew NZ had liberal gun ownership laws.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 17, 2019, 09:59:46 PM
Post by: caskur on March 17, 2019, 09:59:46 PM
It's insane he was able to buy ONE firearm.Quote from: "Bricktop"
But FIVE? Wouldn't a diligent, effective and modern firearms control system report that as an anomaly?
The NZ government is complicit. It has a duty and responsibility to ensure firearms do not fall into the wrong hands. The data, had it been effectively gathered and reported, should surely have red flagged this lunatic.
New Zealand is perfect and so are the people, didn't you know?
And he WAS reported to the police... and the police fobbed the informer off.
I think the NZers have been deflowered and welcomed into the 21 century.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Bricktop on March 17, 2019, 10:05:27 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 17, 2019, 10:05:27 PM
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 17, 2019, 10:20:41 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 17, 2019, 10:20:41 PM
That is a big leap from the 19th, where they nestled comfortably away from the modern world.Quote from: "Bricktop"
I heard rig hands in camp say they were surprised Christchurch has two mosques.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Bricktop on March 17, 2019, 10:24:27 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 17, 2019, 10:24:27 PM
It's a place everyone could feel safe and comfortable, until now. She was sad for the people of that city, who pride themselves on their integration of all newcomers, and providing an environment where all are welcome.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 17, 2019, 10:28:53 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 17, 2019, 10:28:53 PM
I've never been, but my daughter has, and she says Christchurch (anyone else see the irony in the name?) is very cosmopolitan and tolerant to all races and cultures.Quote from: "Bricktop"
It's a place everyone could feel safe and comfortable, until now. She was sad for the people of that city, who pride themselves on their integration of all newcomers, and providing an environment where all are welcome.
NZ has far too many immigrants.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Odinson on March 17, 2019, 10:50:54 PM
Post by: Odinson on March 17, 2019, 10:50:54 PM
It's insane he was able to buy ONE firearm.Quote from: "Bricktop"
But FIVE? Wouldn't a diligent, effective and modern firearms control system report that as an anomaly?
The NZ government is complicit. It has a duty and responsibility to ensure firearms do not fall into the wrong hands. The data, had it been effectively gathered and reported, should surely have red flagged this lunatic.
New Zealand is perfect and so are the people, didn't you know?:001_rolleyes:
And he WAS reported to the police... and the police fobbed the informer off.
I think the NZers have been deflowered and welcomed into the 21 century.
The land of hobbits, Ents, Elves and wizards..
What happened..
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Bricktop on March 17, 2019, 11:13:35 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 17, 2019, 11:13:35 PM
The land of hobbits, Ents, Elves and wizards..
What happened..
hobbits, Ents, Elves, wizards and an Australian psychopath.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 17, 2019, 11:42:43 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 17, 2019, 11:42:43 PM
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 17, 2019, 11:52:27 PM
Post by: caskur on March 17, 2019, 11:52:27 PM
It's insane he was able to buy ONE firearm.Quote from: "Bricktop"
But FIVE? Wouldn't a diligent, effective and modern firearms control system report that as an anomaly?
The NZ government is complicit. It has a duty and responsibility to ensure firearms do not fall into the wrong hands. The data, had it been effectively gathered and reported, should surely have red flagged this lunatic.
New Zealand is perfect and so are the people, didn't you know?:001_rolleyes:
And he WAS reported to the police... and the police fobbed the informer off.
I think the NZers have been deflowered and welcomed into the 21 century.
The land of hobbits, Ents, Elves and wizards..
What happened..
EXCLUSIVE
The accused mosque massacre shooter was a gun club "fruit loop" who allegedly "shot like he meant it" with high powered rifles in practise with other shooters.
Police believe Tarrant is responsible for Friday's Christchurch massacres — and allege he travelled between two packed mosques and gunned down 50 people.
He was arrested 36 minutes after the initial attack at the Al Noor Mosque.
The 28-year-old, who is from Grafton in NSW but moved to Dunedin two or three years ago, allegedly shot and killed 50 people in two mosques during a rampage he filmed and livestreamed.
He was arrested shortly after the attack and has been charged with one count of murder. Further charges are expected and he did not request bail on Saturday.
The post, from November 2017, talks about members of the rifle club and how "one in particular had me really worried".
News.com.au has confirmed the man being referred to is Brenton Tarrant.
It reads]
The hunter updated the post on Saturday, saying, "I'd warned the police about the rifle club where he trained ... un f***ing believable."
He claims police told him "they are a strange bunch" but "they are harmless enough".
He said]
"He shot like he meant it and with high powered [weapons]. You don't need all that for hunting animals, which we do humanely," Tristan said.
At the pale blue clapboard home with a tidy garden rented by Brenton Tarrant in the sleepy Dunedin suburb of Anderson Bay on Saturday, police armed with rifles were still guarding the property on Saturday
After Friday's attack on two Christchurch mosques, police swooped on the rental house and bomb dogs were sent through the property's ceiling.
This follows the alleged discovery of two IEDs (improvised explosive devices) on vehicles, at least one of which was associated with Tarrant's Dunedin address.
Tarrant appeared in Christchurch District Court on Saturday for less than three minutes. He smiled at media inside the courtroom.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 17, 2019, 11:59:02 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 17, 2019, 11:59:02 PM
It's insane he was able to buy ONE firearm.Quote from: "Bricktop"
But FIVE? Wouldn't a diligent, effective and modern firearms control system report that as an anomaly?
The NZ government is complicit. It has a duty and responsibility to ensure firearms do not fall into the wrong hands. The data, had it been effectively gathered and reported, should surely have red flagged this lunatic.
New Zealand is perfect and so are the people, didn't you know?:001_rolleyes:
And he WAS reported to the police... and the police fobbed the informer off.
I think the NZers have been deflowered and welcomed into the 21 century.
The land of hobbits, Ents, Elves and wizards..
What happened..https://www.news.com.au/world/pacific/fruit-loop-dunedin-hunters-reveal-how-brenton-tarrant-acted-at-rifle-range/news-story/63b2eef1aac281ddbd9e8526943096e5
EXCLUSIVE
The accused mosque massacre shooter was a gun club "fruit loop" who allegedly "shot like he meant it" with high powered rifles in practise with other shooters.
Police believe Tarrant is responsible for Friday's Christchurch massacres — and allege he travelled between two packed mosques and gunned down 50 people.
He was arrested 36 minutes after the initial attack at the Al Noor Mosque.. Tarrant also allegedly made verbal rants about young skateboarders and his right to carry firearms which left one animal hunter "shaken" after spending a day shooting with the accusedTarrant is accused of the worst massacre in New Zealand history, a terror attack that started shortly after 1pm local time on Friday in Christchurch when he stormed a mosque and started shooting. But the hunting enthusiast claims nothing was done when he told police in the southern New Zealand city of Dunedin about Tarrant's odd behaviour.
The 28-year-old, who is from Grafton in NSW but moved to Dunedin two or three years ago, allegedly shot and killed 50 people in two mosques during a rampage he filmed and livestreamed.
He was arrested shortly after the attack and has been charged with one count of murder. Further charges are expected and he did not request bail on Saturday.In Facebook posts obtained by news.com.au, one hunter described a shooting session between Tarrant and his friends at a remote rifle club south of Dunedin as worrying.
The post, from November 2017, talks about members of the rifle club and how "one in particular had me really worried".
News.com.au has confirmed the man being referred to is Brenton Tarrant.
It reads]Dunedin hunter Tristan, 34, who had a polite nodding acquaintance with Tarrant over the last two years, described to news.com.au the behaviour which alarmed him. A Facebook respondent in the same forum replied, "I'd make a call to the arms officer the guy sounds like a fruit loop".
The hunter updated the post on Saturday, saying, "I'd warned the police about the rifle club where he trained ... un f***ing believable."
He claims police told him "they are a strange bunch" but "they are harmless enough".
He said]
"He shot like he meant it and with high powered [weapons]. You don't need all that for hunting animals, which we do humanely," Tristan said.
At the pale blue clapboard home with a tidy garden rented by Brenton Tarrant in the sleepy Dunedin suburb of Anderson Bay on Saturday, police armed with rifles were still guarding the property on Saturday
After Friday's attack on two Christchurch mosques, police swooped on the rental house and bomb dogs were sent through the property's ceiling.
This follows the alleged discovery of two IEDs (improvised explosive devices) on vehicles, at least one of which was associated with Tarrant's Dunedin address.
Tarrant appeared in Christchurch District Court on Saturday for less than three minutes. He smiled at media inside the courtroom.
Still, no threats, so not much the cops could do.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 18, 2019, 12:06:19 AM
Post by: caskur on March 18, 2019, 12:06:19 AM
I think Tarrant shot over 90.
Breivik only got 20 years total.. (what a joke)
Tarrant bragged he'll get 27 years but what he doesn't realise is NZ is not Norway and NZ will never let him out or Australia either.... He'll be going away for good.
The Maori are apparently going to kill him in jail. They'll get him too... no prblems.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 18, 2019, 12:13:23 AM
Post by: caskur on March 18, 2019, 12:13:23 AM
It's insane he was able to buy ONE firearm.Quote from: "Bricktop"
But FIVE? Wouldn't a diligent, effective and modern firearms control system report that as an anomaly?
The NZ government is complicit. It has a duty and responsibility to ensure firearms do not fall into the wrong hands. The data, had it been effectively gathered and reported, should surely have red flagged this lunatic.
New Zealand is perfect and so are the people, didn't you know?:001_rolleyes:
And he WAS reported to the police... and the police fobbed the informer off.
I think the NZers have been deflowered and welcomed into the 21 century.
The land of hobbits, Ents, Elves and wizards..
What happened..https://www.news.com.au/world/pacific/fruit-loop-dunedin-hunters-reveal-how-brenton-tarrant-acted-at-rifle-range/news-story/63b2eef1aac281ddbd9e8526943096e5
EXCLUSIVE
The accused mosque massacre shooter was a gun club "fruit loop" who allegedly "shot like he meant it" with high powered rifles in practise with other shooters.
Police believe Tarrant is responsible for Friday's Christchurch massacres — and allege he travelled between two packed mosques and gunned down 50 people.
He was arrested 36 minutes after the initial attack at the Al Noor Mosque.. Tarrant also allegedly made verbal rants about young skateboarders and his right to carry firearms which left one animal hunter "shaken" after spending a day shooting with the accusedTarrant is accused of the worst massacre in New Zealand history, a terror attack that started shortly after 1pm local time on Friday in Christchurch when he stormed a mosque and started shooting. But the hunting enthusiast claims nothing was done when he told police in the southern New Zealand city of Dunedin about Tarrant's odd behaviour.
The 28-year-old, who is from Grafton in NSW but moved to Dunedin two or three years ago, allegedly shot and killed 50 people in two mosques during a rampage he filmed and livestreamed.
He was arrested shortly after the attack and has been charged with one count of murder. Further charges are expected and he did not request bail on Saturday.In Facebook posts obtained by news.com.au, one hunter described a shooting session between Tarrant and his friends at a remote rifle club south of Dunedin as worrying.
The post, from November 2017, talks about members of the rifle club and how "one in particular had me really worried".
News.com.au has confirmed the man being referred to is Brenton Tarrant.
It reads]Dunedin hunter Tristan, 34, who had a polite nodding acquaintance with Tarrant over the last two years, described to news.com.au the behaviour which alarmed him. A Facebook respondent in the same forum replied, "I'd make a call to the arms officer the guy sounds like a fruit loop".
The hunter updated the post on Saturday, saying, "I'd warned the police about the rifle club where he trained ... un f***ing believable."
He claims police told him "they are a strange bunch" but "they are harmless enough".
He said]
"He shot like he meant it and with high powered [weapons]. You don't need all that for hunting animals, which we do humanely," Tristan said.
At the pale blue clapboard home with a tidy garden rented by Brenton Tarrant in the sleepy Dunedin suburb of Anderson Bay on Saturday, police armed with rifles were still guarding the property on Saturday
After Friday's attack on two Christchurch mosques, police swooped on the rental house and bomb dogs were sent through the property's ceiling.
This follows the alleged discovery of two IEDs (improvised explosive devices) on vehicles, at least one of which was associated with Tarrant's Dunedin address.
Tarrant appeared in Christchurch District Court on Saturday for less than three minutes. He smiled at media inside the courtroom.
Still, no threats, so not much the cops could do.
Look, cops tell people all the time if they see a threat or something suspicious to report it... so people actually DO REPORT STUFF and then the cops don't do anything. Same old story.
NO ONE goes to police to waste their time... if that guy was worried enough to go to police THEN the cops should have at least knocked on Tarrants door.
If this was Australia, the press would be HOUNDING the cops inaction instead of worrying about the brat who threw an egg at Senator Anning hailing the brat a hero..
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 18, 2019, 12:16:42 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 18, 2019, 12:16:42 AM
It's insane he was able to buy ONE firearm.Quote from: "Bricktop"
But FIVE? Wouldn't a diligent, effective and modern firearms control system report that as an anomaly?
The NZ government is complicit. It has a duty and responsibility to ensure firearms do not fall into the wrong hands. The data, had it been effectively gathered and reported, should surely have red flagged this lunatic.
New Zealand is perfect and so are the people, didn't you know?:001_rolleyes:
And he WAS reported to the police... and the police fobbed the informer off.
I think the NZers have been deflowered and welcomed into the 21 century.
The land of hobbits, Ents, Elves and wizards..
What happened..https://www.news.com.au/world/pacific/fruit-loop-dunedin-hunters-reveal-how-brenton-tarrant-acted-at-rifle-range/news-story/63b2eef1aac281ddbd9e8526943096e5
EXCLUSIVE
The accused mosque massacre shooter was a gun club "fruit loop" who allegedly "shot like he meant it" with high powered rifles in practise with other shooters.
Police believe Tarrant is responsible for Friday's Christchurch massacres — and allege he travelled between two packed mosques and gunned down 50 people.
He was arrested 36 minutes after the initial attack at the Al Noor Mosque.. Tarrant also allegedly made verbal rants about young skateboarders and his right to carry firearms which left one animal hunter "shaken" after spending a day shooting with the accusedTarrant is accused of the worst massacre in New Zealand history, a terror attack that started shortly after 1pm local time on Friday in Christchurch when he stormed a mosque and started shooting. But the hunting enthusiast claims nothing was done when he told police in the southern New Zealand city of Dunedin about Tarrant's odd behaviour.
The 28-year-old, who is from Grafton in NSW but moved to Dunedin two or three years ago, allegedly shot and killed 50 people in two mosques during a rampage he filmed and livestreamed.
He was arrested shortly after the attack and has been charged with one count of murder. Further charges are expected and he did not request bail on Saturday.In Facebook posts obtained by news.com.au, one hunter described a shooting session between Tarrant and his friends at a remote rifle club south of Dunedin as worrying.
The post, from November 2017, talks about members of the rifle club and how "one in particular had me really worried".
News.com.au has confirmed the man being referred to is Brenton Tarrant.
It reads]Dunedin hunter Tristan, 34, who had a polite nodding acquaintance with Tarrant over the last two years, described to news.com.au the behaviour which alarmed him. A Facebook respondent in the same forum replied, "I'd make a call to the arms officer the guy sounds like a fruit loop".
The hunter updated the post on Saturday, saying, "I'd warned the police about the rifle club where he trained ... un f***ing believable."
He claims police told him "they are a strange bunch" but "they are harmless enough".
He said]
"He shot like he meant it and with high powered [weapons]. You don't need all that for hunting animals, which we do humanely," Tristan said.
At the pale blue clapboard home with a tidy garden rented by Brenton Tarrant in the sleepy Dunedin suburb of Anderson Bay on Saturday, police armed with rifles were still guarding the property on Saturday
After Friday's attack on two Christchurch mosques, police swooped on the rental house and bomb dogs were sent through the property's ceiling.
This follows the alleged discovery of two IEDs (improvised explosive devices) on vehicles, at least one of which was associated with Tarrant's Dunedin address.
Tarrant appeared in Christchurch District Court on Saturday for less than three minutes. He smiled at media inside the courtroom.
Still, no threats, so not much the cops could do.
Look, cops tell people all the time if they see a threat or something suspicious to report it... so people actually DO REPORT STUFF and then the cops don't do anything. Same old story.
NO ONE goes to police to waste their time... if that guy was worried enough to go to police THEN the cops should have at least knocked on Tarrants door.
If this was Australia, the press would be HOUNDING the cops inaction instead of worrying about the brat who threw an egg at Senator Anning hailing the brat a hero..
But. what did he really say. No threats were made. The cops could talk to him I suppose, but that's as far as it would go.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 18, 2019, 12:27:51 AM
Post by: caskur on March 18, 2019, 12:27:51 AM
One character I know had his shotgun taken off him when he was going through a marriage breakdown... all he did was argue with the ex Mrs.
Anyway, gun owners in NZ will now all be suspects. Cops do not want citizens armed for obvious reasons.
What Tarrant said was repeated by his informer on TV a couple of times but I can't remember every word so I'll say nothng for now.
Bottom line, don't rant like a lunatic and own an arsonal.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 18, 2019, 12:32:42 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 18, 2019, 12:32:42 AM
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Our pm does have selective outrage.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Bricktop on March 18, 2019, 01:08:01 AM
Post by: Bricktop on March 18, 2019, 01:08:01 AM
This clown was no white supremacist. He was a deranged psychopath. Nothing more.
He wanted to kill, but there was enough reason in his demented and maniacal melon to cause him to choose targets that were not of his own kind.
He didn't hate islam...he hated the world and himself.
And this is why I'd take Mel's guns from him.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 18, 2019, 01:09:53 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 18, 2019, 01:09:53 AM
Whilst the point that meme makes is valid, it is erroneous.Quote from: "Bricktop"
This clown was no white supremacist. He was a deranged psychopath. Nothing more.
He wanted to kill, but there was enough reason in his demented and maniacal melon to cause him to choose targets that were not of his own kind.
He didn't hate islam...he hated the world and himself.
And this is why I'd take Mel's guns from him.
I would take his beer from him.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 18, 2019, 01:52:45 AM
Post by: caskur on March 18, 2019, 01:52:45 AM
He's not really a white supremist, (whatever that is). He only killed Muslims, no one else. He didnt go to a Synogog or Church, or Budhist Temple, he went to two Mosques.
He remarked that they breed like flies, (my words). That's actually what Serbs believe. Serbs can only afford two children and both parents have to work while gypsies and Muslims breed like flies and live on welfare. (old Yugoslavia).
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: cc on March 18, 2019, 02:11:11 AM
Post by: cc on March 18, 2019, 02:11:11 AM
This guy did strange things in strange ways. He spent some time in Pakistan not long ago. Go figure.
I agree that he was simply a deranged psychopath with a big ego and big mouth
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Bricktop on March 18, 2019, 02:53:58 AM
Post by: Bricktop on March 18, 2019, 02:53:58 AM
This wasn't an attack generated by islamophobia (whatever THAT is)...they were simply the tragic canvas for his demented and maniacal masterwork.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 18, 2019, 04:30:33 AM
Post by: caskur on March 18, 2019, 04:30:33 AM
His views were all over the map, and conflicting with each otherQuote from: "cc"
This guy did strange things in strange ways. He spent some time in Pakistan not long ago. Go figure.
I agree that he was simply aderanged psychopath with a big ego and big mouth
Sounds like our whole country.
He was a psychopath, with the usual complications of derangement, narcissistic personality disorder and sociopathology.Quote from: "Bricktop"
This wasn't an attack generated by islamophobia (whatever THAT is)...they were simply the tragic canvas for his demented and maniacal masterwork.
Can he be cured? Will he ever realize his sins?
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 18, 2019, 09:01:47 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 18, 2019, 09:01:47 AM
His views were all over the map, and conflicting with each otherQuote from: "cc"
This guy did strange things in strange ways.He spent some time in Pakistan not long ago.Go figure.
I agree that he was simply a deranged psychopath with a big ego and big mouth
Really?
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 18, 2019, 10:57:47 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 18, 2019, 10:57:47 AM
TWITTER MOB COMES FOR DEAN CAIN OVER EGG ATTACK COMMENTS — HE FIRES BACK IN EXCLUSIVE STATEMENT TO THE DAILY CALLERQuote
"Superman" actor Dean Cain made an offhand comment about what he would do if someone blindsided him with an egg attack, and the Twitter mob came for him.
It all began with the now-viral video of Australian Senator Fraser Anning that circulated on Saturday. Anning was attacked by a teen — who broke an egg over his head from behind — and he turned and slapped the boy.
While many cheered the boy on, citing Anning's "Islamophobic" views and anti-immigration stance, Cain responded to the video by saying simply, "I would have knocked that kid cold."
He was immediately attacked for "defending a Nazi" and for advocating violence against a child — but Cain was quick to explain that neither of those accusations were based in reality.
"You cannot attack someone for their political views, no matter how abhorrent," he said. "Not with an egg, not with fists, not with guns. That's wrong. In the U.S. we have the First Amendment which protects all speech, including unpopular speech, as long as it doesn't call for violence. While I totally disagree with what I've seen of the Senator's positions, is it illegal for him to hold them? Should he be physically attacked because of them?"
Cain also agreed that it was strange that while people have focused their criticism on Anning — for his political views and for hitting the boy who egged him — no one is criticizing those who appear content to perpetuate the idea that a violent attack of any kind is a reasonable response to disagreeable words or ideas.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Wazzzup on March 18, 2019, 01:24:38 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 18, 2019, 01:24:38 PM
Just remember these are the same progtards (more or less) who advocated punching the Covington kids and feeding them into a woodchipper because one of them smiled --Superman is right. Most people would have knocked that egg chucking kid cold.Quote from: "iron horse jockey"TWITTER MOB COMES FOR DEAN CAIN OVER EGG ATTACK COMMENTS — HE FIRES BACK IN EXCLUSIVE STATEMENT TO THE DAILY CALLERQuote
"Superman" actor Dean Cain made an offhand comment about what he would do if someone blindsided him with an egg attack, and the Twitter mob came for him.
It all began with the now-viral video of Australian Senator Fraser Anning that circulated on Saturday. Anning was attacked by a teen — who broke an egg over his head from behind — and he turned and slapped the boy.
While many cheered the boy on, citing Anning's "Islamophobic" views and anti-immigration stance, Cain responded to the video by saying simply, "I would have knocked that kid cold."
He was immediately attacked for "defending a Nazi" and for advocating violence against a child — but Cain was quick to explain that neither of those accusations were based in reality.
"You cannot attack someone for their political views, no matter how abhorrent," he said. "Not with an egg, not with fists, not with guns. That's wrong. In the U.S. we have the First Amendment which protects all speech, including unpopular speech, as long as it doesn't call for violence. While I totally disagree with what I've seen of the Senator's positions, is it illegal for him to hold them? Should he be physically attacked because of them?"
Cain also agreed that it was strange that while people have focused their criticism on Anning — for his political views and for hitting the boy who egged him — no one is criticizing those who appear content to perpetuate the idea that a violent attack of any kind is a reasonable response to disagreeable words or ideas.https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/17/exclusive-dean-cain-egg-attack-comments/?utm_medium=email
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 18, 2019, 01:37:35 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 18, 2019, 01:37:35 PM
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Wazzzup on March 18, 2019, 01:53:36 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 18, 2019, 01:53:36 PM
The difference is--People with common sense know that an egg to the head can be retaliated against because it is a violent act. Progtards think speech (or even facial expressions) they don't like entitle them to violence.Did that egg kid think there would be no consequences. If he did that to me, he would have got a lot more than a slap. What a little prick.Quote from: "seoulbro"
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 18, 2019, 01:59:10 PM
Post by: caskur on March 18, 2019, 01:59:10 PM
Did that egg kid think there would be no consequences. If he did that to me, he would have got a lot more than a slap. What a little prick.Quote from: "seoulbro"
We have a generation of entitled brats.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 18, 2019, 02:03:24 PM
Post by: caskur on March 18, 2019, 02:03:24 PM
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Bricktop on March 18, 2019, 05:45:21 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 18, 2019, 05:45:21 PM
The left will use any and every opportunity to create a monster that does not exist, whilst simultaneously denying their own presence.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 18, 2019, 06:19:18 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 18, 2019, 06:19:18 PM
Did that egg kid think there would be no consequences. If he did that to me, he would have got a lot more than a slap. What a little prick.Quote from: "seoulbro"
He's lucky he did not try that on me. I would have broke something a lot harder and heavier over his head than a frickin egg.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Frood on March 18, 2019, 06:27:07 PM
Post by: Frood on March 18, 2019, 06:27:07 PM
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 18, 2019, 06:51:14 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 18, 2019, 06:51:14 PM
A barrel?Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Filled with dried concrete.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Bricktop on March 18, 2019, 07:45:27 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 18, 2019, 07:45:27 PM
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 18, 2019, 07:56:44 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 18, 2019, 07:56:44 PM
Darn...for a moment there I was thinking "free barrel wash".Quote from: "Bricktop"
Hell no.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Gaon on March 18, 2019, 11:33:28 PM
Post by: Gaon on March 18, 2019, 11:33:28 PM
Not a word about this slaughter from the same world leaders who can't stop talking about Christchurch.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 20, 2019, 11:32:47 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 20, 2019, 11:32:47 AM
Liberals condemning Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer for not adequately denouncing the terrorist attack on Muslims at prayer in New Zealand by a suspected white supremacist would be more convincing if they weren't so inadequate at denouncing Islamist terrorism themselves.
To be clear, the horrific attack on Muslims praying at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand should be universally condemned and raises global concerns about the increasing incidence of such attacks, including in Canada, by terrorists espousing the same evil ideology.
Scheer is being pilloried because his initial response condemning the attack through a two-part tweet didn't mention the victims were Muslims at prayer in two mosques — an omission for which Environment Minister Catherine McKenna accused him of Islamophobia, or as she put it in a tweet: "I spoke to parents at Ottawa Main Mosque today whose kids are too scared to pray & go to school. In Canada. Meanwhile Andrew Scheer has to be called out before he can call out Islamophobia."
Except Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale didn't mention the attack was on Muslims in his initial tweets on the tragedy either, which were more than eight hours after Scheer's.
To be fair, Goodale did so 43 minutes after his initial tweets, when he identified the victims as Muslims and condemned "right-wing extremism."
Both Scheer and Goodale subsequently made fuller statements condemning the attack and expressing solidarity with Muslims in Canada and globally.
If McKenna thinks Scheer is Islamophobic for initially failing to mention Muslims, is Prime Minister Justin Trudeau anti-Semitic for twice failing to mention that six million Jews died in the Holocaust?
The first time was in his 2016 statement commemorating International Holocaust Remembrance Day, the second at the 2017 dedication of Ottawa's Holocaust Memorial, where the plaque for the inauguration, issued specifically in Trudeau's name, with the PM attending the ceremony, failed to mention Jews or for that matter anti-Semitism.
So what is the Liberals' argument?
That Scheer's failure to identify Muslims as victims of terrorism in his initial tweets is evidence of Islamophobia, while Trudeau twice failing to mention six million Jews died in the Holocaust was an honest mistake? Because that would be hypocrisy.
Back in the real world, equally deplorable to terrorist attacks by white supremacists are attacks by Islamist-inspired terrorists, whether they're on innocent people at prayer, or walking down the street, or running a marathon, or having a meal in a cafe.
In both cases we are dealing with twisted individuals who have abandoned human decency, willing to murder innocents in support of their twisted, hate-filled ideologies.
Why then, is it so easy for Liberals to condemn terror by white supremacists but so hard for them to condemn Islamist or Islamist-inspired terrorism?
Why is their condemnation of terror of the first kind swift and specific, but slow and vague in the second, often attributing it instead to such factors as mental illness or feelings of people being "completely excluded"?
Why this double standard?
Expect these kind of labeling from McKenna, Trudeau and their ilk in this year's election.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Blazor on March 20, 2019, 12:21:42 PM
Post by: Blazor on March 20, 2019, 12:21:42 PM
this was an eye-opener....Quote from: "deadskinmask"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HQC-ZxqaVs
Crap, wont play, says the user's account got terminated. Fucking censors. What was in the video?
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Blazor on March 20, 2019, 12:23:46 PM
Post by: Blazor on March 20, 2019, 12:23:46 PM
The land of hobbits, Ents, Elves and wizards..
What happened..
Funny, as that was my first thought when I first saw the headline too lol.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Bricktop on March 20, 2019, 07:06:01 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 20, 2019, 07:06:01 PM
The hobbits went back to America.
Saruman went back to the UK, with Legolas, Merry, Pippin and Bilbo.
In fact...I think the only Kiwi actor was the Uruq'hai, from memory. And the horseriders in the long shots.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Odinson on March 20, 2019, 09:07:29 PM
Post by: Odinson on March 20, 2019, 09:07:29 PM
this was an eye-opener....Quote from: "deadskinmask"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HQC-ZxqaVs
Crap, wont play, says the user's account got terminated. Fucking censors. What was in the video?
It was about how the empty cartridges from the shooters rifle disappear mid-air..
And that they were "added" afterwards..
It seems like they are disappearing due to the poor quality of the video..
But if you look closely, you can see a bunch of pixel-messes moving on the ground... Its easier to see the cartridges against the pavement.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Blazor on March 20, 2019, 09:16:24 PM
Post by: Blazor on March 20, 2019, 09:16:24 PM
It was about how the empty cartridges from the shooters rifle disappear mid-air..
And that they were "added" afterwards..
It seems like they are disappearing due to the poor quality of the video..
But if you look closely, you can see a bunch of pixel-messes moving on the ground... Its easier to see the cartridges against the pavement.
Ah ok, that makes sense.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Wazzzup on March 21, 2019, 01:03:15 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 21, 2019, 01:03:15 PM
Scott Morrison said he would consider "all options" in reviewing ties with the country. He went on to label Recep Tayyip Erdogan's comments as "reckless" and "highly offensive".
Erdogen's comments
Turkey's Islamist dictator President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has responded to the fact the Christchurch mosque shooter was Australian to threaten Australians visiting Turkey with death if they are discovered to have anti-Islam views.Quote
Then alluding to the fact that thousands of Australians travel to Gallipoli in Turkey every year on ANZAC Day on April 25 warning thatif they harbor anti-Muslim views threatening "Your grandparents came here ... and they returned in caskets," and "Have no doubt we will send you back like your grandfathers."...
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 21, 2019, 01:12:02 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 21, 2019, 01:12:02 PM
THE Australian Prime Minister today indicated he was considering breaking ties with Turkey following President Erdogan's threats against Australians after the Christchurch massacre.
Scott Morrison said he would consider "all options" in reviewing ties with the country. He went on to label Recep Tayyip Erdogan's comments as "reckless" and "highly offensive".
Erdogen's comments
Turkey's Islamist dictator President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has responded to the fact the Christchurch mosque shooter was Australian to threaten Australians visiting Turkey with death if they are discovered to have anti-Islam views.Quote
Then alluding to the fact that thousands of Australians travel to Gallipoli in Turkey every year on ANZAC Day on April 25 warning thatif they harbor anti-Muslim views threatening "Your grandparents came here ... and they returned in caskets," and "Have no doubt we will send you back like your grandfathers."...
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Bricktop on March 21, 2019, 05:39:57 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 21, 2019, 05:39:57 PM
Turkey will be the next muslim problem for the world to cope with.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 21, 2019, 05:42:41 PM
Post by: Anonymous on March 21, 2019, 05:42:41 PM
Erdogan is another Assad, or Hussein.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Turkey will be the next muslim problem for the world to cope with.
I made a stop in Turkey on a return trip from Central Asia..
It seemed like an extension of Europe then.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Bricktop on March 21, 2019, 05:48:48 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 21, 2019, 05:48:48 PM
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Anonymous on March 22, 2019, 09:15:24 AM
Post by: Anonymous on March 22, 2019, 09:15:24 AM
Erdogan is radicalising the country, and pushing it away from Europe.Quote from: "Bricktop"
It's becoming a different county.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Frood on March 22, 2019, 09:56:04 AM
Post by: Frood on March 22, 2019, 09:56:04 AM
Erdogan is another Assad, or Hussein.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Turkey will be the next muslim problem for the world to cope with.
Assad, Hussein, and Gaddafi as well, kept thumbs on their various factions. If the West didn't regime change them, problems wouldn't be so pronounced now.
However, Erdogan is ambitious and has his eyes on bigger prizes than just his modern day Turkey.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Wazzzup on March 22, 2019, 10:28:40 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 22, 2019, 10:28:40 AM
And of course the dictatorial edict on guns.
---
So this is what happens in NZ when a guy shoots Muslims. I wonder what would happen in New Zealand if a Muslim shot a bunch of non Muslims.
I bet I know--Nothing.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on March 22, 2019, 01:55:56 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on March 22, 2019, 01:55:56 PM
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on March 22, 2019, 01:56:47 PM
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on March 22, 2019, 01:56:47 PM
New Zealand PM wears hijabQuote from: "Wazzzup"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://www.jihadwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Jacinda_Ardern.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://www.jihadwatch.org/wp-content/u%20...%20Ardern.jpg%22%3Ehttps://www.jihadwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Jacinda_Ardern.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Exactly. In this case, it's over-empathizing.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: cc on March 22, 2019, 02:33:21 PM
Post by: cc on March 22, 2019, 02:33:21 PM
In one funeral for victims of New Zealand's recent mosque shootings, security for the burials was high, with armed policewomen forced to cover their hair so as not to be offensive to Muslim men, while guarding the cemetery gates.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Wazzzup on March 22, 2019, 02:48:08 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on March 22, 2019, 02:48:08 PM
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Bricktop on March 22, 2019, 06:33:10 PM
Post by: Bricktop on March 22, 2019, 06:33:10 PM
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Odinson on March 23, 2019, 11:47:43 AM
Post by: Odinson on March 23, 2019, 11:47:43 AM
When muslim politicians come to west, they dont even shake hands with the first lady.
They do not give up any of their muslim habits..
Everything is so... One sided... nowadays..
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Gaon on March 23, 2019, 11:54:43 AM
Post by: Gaon on March 23, 2019, 11:54:43 AM
When white politicians go to a muslim country, they wear hijabs and act according to muslim laws..Quote from: "Odinson"
When muslim politicians come to west, they dont even shake hands with the first lady.
They do not give up any of their muslim habits..
Everything is so... One sided... nowadays..
That is true. The cultural accommodations are one sided.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Odinson on March 23, 2019, 04:18:24 PM
Post by: Odinson on March 23, 2019, 04:18:24 PM
When white politicians go to a muslim country, they wear hijabs and act according to muslim laws..Quote from: "Odinson"
When muslim politicians come to west, they dont even shake hands with the first lady.
They do not give up any of their muslim habits..
Everything is so... One sided... nowadays..
That is true. The cultural accommodations are one sided.
Yeah..
Would they give us an asylum, free housing, food and some spending money?
I think not.
Can a non-muslim man date a muslim girl?
Nope..
Is burning the bible allowed?
- Yes.
Is burning the quran allowed?
- Nope.
Is "hate-speech" against christians and whites allowed?
- Yes.
Is "hate-speech" against muslims and non-whites allowed?
- Nope.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Odinson on March 23, 2019, 04:19:01 PM
Post by: Odinson on March 23, 2019, 04:19:01 PM
Its like we are ruled over by a bunch of chicks..
There is no logic in the current state of things.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Odinson on March 23, 2019, 04:28:41 PM
Post by: Odinson on March 23, 2019, 04:28:41 PM
Na ah.
They think we are idiots and they get a boner when an idiot falls in-line..
Its the same as stroking their cocks.
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 23, 2019, 06:21:05 PM
Post by: caskur on March 23, 2019, 06:21:05 PM
Be no part of the world!~
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: Odinson on March 23, 2019, 06:41:19 PM
Post by: Odinson on March 23, 2019, 06:41:19 PM
The world is toxic...Quote from: "caskur"
Be no part of the world!~
Everything is toxic if you are a stupid asshole..
Look at Justin Trudeau... You think indian people respect him for wearing their traditional clothes?
They dont..
He is a clown.
And muslims think we are clowns because we give them aid...
Europe is a land of cuckolds and women to them..
Title: Re: multiple fatalities after mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand
Post by: caskur on March 24, 2019, 01:14:10 AM
Post by: caskur on March 24, 2019, 01:14:10 AM
The world is toxic...Quote from: "caskur"
Be no part of the world!~
Everything is toxic if you are a stupid asshole..
Look at Justin Trudeau... You think indian people respect him for wearing their traditional clothes?
They dont..
He is a clown.
And muslims think we are clowns because we give them aid...
Europe is a land of cuckolds and women to them..
Pretty much. But no one is paying attention.