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Title: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on March 18, 2019, 08:35:27 PM
It took 50 deaths, but the penny dropped.



New Zealand's pathetically weak and inefficient gun laws facilitated a mass murder, just as they did in the US.



However, unlike the US, the NZ government has accepted that they must make drastic and immediate changes to the administration of firearm ownership in their nation.



And who do they look to for guidance and advice?



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Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Anonymous on March 18, 2019, 08:39:01 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"It took 50 deaths, but the penny dropped.



New Zealand's pathetically weak and inefficient gun laws facilitated a mass murder, just as they did in the US.



However, unlike the US, the NZ government has accepted that they must make drastic and immediate changes to the administration of firearm ownership in their nation.



And who do they look to for guidance and advice?



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What changes are they tabling?
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on March 18, 2019, 08:43:24 PM
At this stage they are still mulling them over, but they have already flagged concerns over AR15's, auto shotguns, as well as porous checks and vetting in their admin processes.



I suspect they will copy our model pretty closely.



There will be a surrender demand to owners of high powered rifles.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on March 18, 2019, 08:53:37 PM
Even though I have been there to Auckland, Christchurch and even drove to the Kaikoura peninsula, it is a country I know very little of politically.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Anonymous on March 18, 2019, 09:16:10 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"At this stage they are still mulling them over, but they have already flagged concerns over AR15's, auto shotguns, as well as porous checks and vetting in their admin processes.



I suspect they will copy our model pretty closely.



There will be a surrender demand to owners of high powered rifles.

High powered or semi automatic rifles?
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on March 18, 2019, 09:38:40 PM
Both.



Certainly semi autos are doomed.



The ownership rate of firearms in NZ is triple that of Australia...with far less reason or justification to possess them. There are no large animals for hunters (I think they may have deer, but no crocs, water buffalo, feral goats, camels and pigs).



They will now understand that what we did was right, necessary and effective. But what may happen now is these whackjobs may try their insanity in countries with less controls...such as Canada.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Anonymous on March 18, 2019, 09:44:11 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Both.



Certainly semi autos are doomed.



The ownership rate of firearms in NZ is triple that of Australia...with far less reason or justification to possess them. There are no large animals for hunters (I think they may have deer, but no crocs, water buffalo, feral goats, camels and pigs).



They will now understand that what we did was right, necessary and effective. But what may happen now is these whackjobs may try their insanity in countries with less controls...such as Canada.

I saw on the news they mentioned rules changing for semi automatic firearms, but they said nothing about high powered firearms.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on March 18, 2019, 09:45:34 PM
It's still a work in progress.



Rest assured they will rein in the rampant and unnecessary ownership of killing machines.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Odinson on March 18, 2019, 10:22:49 PM
I dont know what its like living in New Zealand..



Maybe the Maori are really violent.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Odinson on March 18, 2019, 10:26:13 PM
America seems to be like it was in the 19th century..





Only that the Apache have been replaced with feral groids.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: JOE on March 18, 2019, 10:42:37 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"It took 50 deaths, but the penny dropped.



New Zealand's pathetically weak and inefficient gun laws facilitated a mass murder, just as they did in the US.



However, unlike the US, the NZ government has accepted that they must make drastic and immediate changes to the administration of firearm ownership in their nation.



And who do they look to for guidance and advice?



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...but don't ferget....the murderer was an AUSTRALIAN, BT!



And you bein' an Australian have got the blood of his murders on yer hands, BT!



The nation pf Australia owes all of New Zealand & Islam an apology.



Reparations comin' BT! A cut in Yer pension to help pay for ' em eh?
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Frood on March 19, 2019, 01:21:17 AM
NZ has joined the Stupid Club, pushed by stupid people.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on March 19, 2019, 01:22:19 AM
You'll be moving to Auckland then?
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Frood on March 19, 2019, 01:24:45 AM
Maybe you should. You can instruct them on how to be a cowardly little sniveling dweeb with self defence phobias.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on March 19, 2019, 01:57:23 AM
And my constant reply is that I am more than happy to test my valor against yours, sweet pea.



I used to carry a gun, remember?
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Frood on March 19, 2019, 02:08:32 AM
So what? You carried a gun. Whoopdy doo. Who hasn't.



Me pointing out that you're a double down coward on the issue of self defence has nothing to do with a physical confrontation between you and I. In fact, that you even went there speaks volumes about your irrational phobia, overblown yet fragile ego, and of course that big fat know nothing gob of yours.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on March 19, 2019, 02:10:30 AM
Now, wait...



On one hand, you say a person should carry a gun to protect themselves.



On the other, you call me a coward for carrying a gun to protect you.



Make up your mind, twinky dink...assuming there is enough of it left to make.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Frood on March 19, 2019, 02:23:19 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Now, wait...



On one hand, you say a person should carry a gun to protect themselves.



On the other, you call me a coward for carrying a gun to protect you.



Make up your mind, twinky dink...assuming there is enough of it left to make.


You don't carry a gun to protect me and when you did carry a gun, it wouldn't have saved anyone's life or limb in nearly any case.



All we have is 000 to dial and a 5-10 minute moment to reflect on our life  (if we're lucky) because you and people like you have such contempt and fear of citizens that you push to render us tax paying livestock good for your salaries and pensions but expendable when your monopoly on violence and aggression could ever conceivably be challenged.



We can't even possess a can of mace here because we've been pushed into being victims. Prey.



That makes you and people like you cowards. Self serving and insecure little cowards. My firm belief. Piss and moan all you like. It's true.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on March 19, 2019, 03:02:26 AM
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OK.



You win.



I couldn't even begin to unravel that gibberish, let alone waste keystrokes illustrating how utterly deranged and moronic you are.



Even I have my limits.



However, my invite to you to measure your valor against mine stands.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Frood on March 19, 2019, 03:30:52 AM
Your topically related surrender is accepted and your renewed call for a physical altercation is again noted and:



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Have a nice day!  :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on March 19, 2019, 03:42:14 AM
Was there a call for a physical altercation?



My, your little imagination can get so carried away sometimes.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Berry Sweet on March 19, 2019, 03:44:17 AM
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Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Frood on March 19, 2019, 03:53:27 AM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet":pop:


Share?   ac_biggrin
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Anonymous on March 19, 2019, 09:28:35 AM
I haven't heard anything more about what New Zealand is doing with gun control legislation.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Blazor on March 19, 2019, 12:17:34 PM
I cant stand a "one person does wrong, so everyone must pay" mentality. Guns dont kill people anymore than a knife, a car, or even a tiger. Its the person, every time.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: kiebers on March 19, 2019, 12:26:57 PM
Quote from: "Blazor"I cant stand a "one person does wrong, so everyone must pay" mentality. Guns dont kill people anymore than a knife, a car, or even a tiger. Its the person, every time.

We have a friend whose grand daughter works at subway. They were robbed at gunpoint. They were wearing hoodies. The friend has sent letters etc to all her representatives, state and federal, demanding that hoodies be outlawed. She is my wifes best friend so I can't really call her out about it, or it has been suggested quite strongly that I shouldn't. Next thing you know people will have to show id to buy plastic knives....oh wait....
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Blazor on March 19, 2019, 01:07:52 PM
Quote from: "kiebers"
Quote from: "Blazor"I cant stand a "one person does wrong, so everyone must pay" mentality. Guns dont kill people anymore than a knife, a car, or even a tiger. Its the person, every time.

We have a friend whose grand daughter works at subway. They were robbed at gunpoint. They were wearing hoodies. The friend has sent letters etc to all her representatives, state and federal, demanding that hoodies be outlawed. She is my wifes best friend so I can't really call her out about it, or it has been suggested quite strongly that I shouldn't. Next thing you know people will have to show id to buy plastic knives....oh wait....


 :laugh:



Your willpower must be strong lol.



Damn that sucks on the gunpoint robbery though.



Btw, I "think", at least maybe here in VA, that covering of ones face is illegal. At least it use to be.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Anonymous on March 19, 2019, 02:13:22 PM
Quote from: "kiebers"
Quote from: "Blazor"I cant stand a "one person does wrong, so everyone must pay" mentality. Guns dont kill people anymore than a knife, a car, or even a tiger. Its the person, every time.

We have a friend whose grand daughter works at subway. They were robbed at gunpoint. They were wearing hoodies. The friend has sent letters etc to all her representatives, state and federal, demanding that hoodies be outlawed. She is my wifes best friend so I can't really call her out about it, or it has been suggested quite strongly that I shouldn't. Next thing you know people will have to show id to buy plastic knives....oh wait....

Someone posted here in the past that hoodies were not allowed in some bars....I think it was Herman.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on March 19, 2019, 09:22:11 PM
Quote from: "Blazor"I cant stand a "one person does wrong, so everyone must pay" mentality. Guns dont kill people anymore than a knife, a car, or even a tiger. Its the person, every time.


Would you feel the same if your son was worshipping in a church, when a crazed madman with an AR15 burst in and sprayed the place until all were dead?



Later, it was revealed that he'd purchased the firearm legally, modified it legally and was fully licenced. Would that make it more acceptable?



Throwing millions of guns into a society fracturing at the seams would seem to me to be the very pinnacle of irresponsible stupidity.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Blazor on March 20, 2019, 10:48:00 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Blazor"I cant stand a "one person does wrong, so everyone must pay" mentality. Guns dont kill people anymore than a knife, a car, or even a tiger. Its the person, every time.


Would you feel the same if your son was worshipping in a church, when a crazed madman with an AR15 burst in and sprayed the place until all were dead?



Later, it was revealed that he'd purchased the firearm legally, modified it legally and was fully licenced. Would that make it more acceptable?



Throwing millions of guns into a society fracturing at the seams would seem to me to be the very pinnacle of irresponsible stupidity.


My son carries, he would of blew that fuckers head off and not thought twice  :laugh:
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Frood on March 20, 2019, 05:45:08 PM
Nevermind BT, Blazor. He's just an authoritarian puss puss and coward. He loves the State. Thinks it tastes creamy on his lips.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on March 20, 2019, 06:50:32 PM
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Blazor"I cant stand a "one person does wrong, so everyone must pay" mentality. Guns dont kill people anymore than a knife, a car, or even a tiger. Its the person, every time.


Would you feel the same if your son was worshipping in a church, when a crazed madman with an AR15 burst in and sprayed the place until all were dead?



Later, it was revealed that he'd purchased the firearm legally, modified it legally and was fully licenced. Would that make it more acceptable?



Throwing millions of guns into a society fracturing at the seams would seem to me to be the very pinnacle of irresponsible stupidity.


My son carries, he would of blew that fuckers head off and not thought twice  :laugh:


He carries a pistol.



The offender has at least one AR15, and plenty of mags.



There is a world of difference between carrying a pistol, and responding to a life threatening emergency. Try it. Fill a room full of your friends, and at some random time another will storm into that room, firing a semi or full auto military calibre rifle...maybe filled with blanks. See how you respond. In our training, this is exactly what we experienced...out of nowhere, loud gunfire and screaming. Switching to effective defence takes a LOT of will power and discipline.



It's also odd that many people believe that these lunatics just wander into their chosen field of operation blindly and without consideration of armed resistance. In YOUR country especially, they will be vigilant for return fire.



Of course, nothing will change in America. You guys love guns. They make you feel taller and tougher. You have RIGHTS.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Blazor on March 20, 2019, 07:33:56 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Nevermind BT, Blazor. He's just an authoritarian puss puss and coward. He loves the State. Thinks it tastes creamy on his lips.


Its his one wish before he goes to heaven, rid the world of guns. Hes trying his best to get past the gates and make amends for all the shit he has endured upon fine forum folk  :laugh:
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Blazor on March 20, 2019, 07:38:31 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Blazor"I cant stand a "one person does wrong, so everyone must pay" mentality. Guns dont kill people anymore than a knife, a car, or even a tiger. Its the person, every time.


Would you feel the same if your son was worshipping in a church, when a crazed madman with an AR15 burst in and sprayed the place until all were dead?



Later, it was revealed that he'd purchased the firearm legally, modified it legally and was fully licenced. Would that make it more acceptable?



Throwing millions of guns into a society fracturing at the seams would seem to me to be the very pinnacle of irresponsible stupidity.


My son carries, he would of blew that fuckers head off and not thought twice  :laugh:


He carries a pistol.



The offender has at least one AR15, and plenty of mags.



There is a world of difference between carrying a pistol, and responding to a life threatening emergency. Try it. Fill a room full of your friends, and at some random time another will storm into that room, firing a semi or full auto military calibre rifle...maybe filled with blanks. See how you respond. In our training, this is exactly what we experienced...out of nowhere, loud gunfire and screaming. Switching to effective defence takes a LOT of will power and discipline.



It's also odd that many people believe that these lunatics just wander into their chosen field of operation blindly and without consideration of armed resistance. In YOUR country especially, they will be vigilant for return fire.



Of course, nothing will change in America. You guys love guns. They make you feel taller and tougher. You have RIGHTS.


I see what you're saying, but you dont know everyone, everyone responds differently. Mind you if that fucker came in my home, he wouldnt leave in one piece.



I do love my guns, but its not like Im drinking Ent juice and growing lol, nah I feel prouder, a protector, a defender, aint those the things you felt when you carried?
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on March 20, 2019, 07:55:36 PM
No.



If I were only respected and effective because of a gun, I'd have quit.



Not at any stage did carrying a gun make me feel stronger, or even safer. When you've lived in the underworld, you soon learn that events usually happen outside your control, and carrying a gun rarely, if ever, prevented those events. True, there were times when the firearm resolved and controlled situations...but only after the damage had been done.



Guns don't protect if the other side has the element of surprise (which is usually the case) or simply doesn't care. A gun is only effective if fired.



And if my training taught me anything, it taught me that 30 metres with a pistol gave you a reasonable chance of a stopping hit, 50 metres required a lot of luck, and after that you may as well spit. If they have a rifle, get out fast. If you had a .357 the chances reduced because of the recoil.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Blazor on March 20, 2019, 08:11:55 PM
Those aint the words I used, I said "prouder, a protector, a defender". Again I see what you are saying on all those other things, but all depends on the person, and its a hell of a lot better than having nothing. Im not a fast runner, and my karate aint very good against a gun, especially unless you close.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on March 20, 2019, 08:27:28 PM
What you're saying, and with which I agree, is that things just aren't that simple any more. The maniacs have worked out how to slaughter crowds of people. They work out their targets and there is nothing we can do to identify them all and interdict their madness.



Whilst I maintain my general tenet on the issue of gun control, we are moving to a point where more armed security personnel are going to be needed, even at previously ignored venues like churches and schools.



World's going to hell, and Satan's minions are doing a bang up job accelerating the process.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Blazor on March 20, 2019, 08:35:20 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"What you're saying, and with which I agree, is that things just aren't that simple any more. The maniacs have worked out how to slaughter crowds of people. They work out their targets and there is nothing we can do to identify them all and interdict their madness.



Whilst I maintain my general tenet on the issue of gun control, we are moving to a point where more armed security personnel are going to be needed, even at previously ignored venues like churches and schools.



World's going to hell, and Satan's minions are doing a bang up job accelerating the process.


True, the maniacs you normally dont know til its too late.



The thing with hired hands, is you have to wait for hired hands to react, and who knows where they may be during the situation. It use to be legal for kids to carry a rifle to school here long time ago, but that got struck down quick. It also use to be no big deal to carry a pistol, and more people did, but then it seemed like there was more peaceful times, less carried, then it turned into a scary thing to see in public and others quit carrying. Less and less folks carry openly. This gives these maniacs the chance, easy pickin's in their eyes. Where if more carried, respectful folk, this would deter a LOT of this. "An armed society is a polite society".
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: caskur on March 20, 2019, 08:45:50 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"It took 50 deaths, but the penny dropped.



New Zealand's pathetically weak and inefficient gun laws facilitated a mass murder, just as they did in the US.



However, unlike the US, the NZ government has accepted that they must make drastic and immediate changes to the administration of firearm ownership in their nation.



And who do they look to for guidance and advice?



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It's easier to manage 3 million kiwis BUT 300 million Yanks?... good luck with that one.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on March 20, 2019, 08:58:01 PM
No, you're right.



The American gun ownership madness is beyond control. They are going to slaughter each other in the thousands.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Odinson on March 20, 2019, 09:02:57 PM
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Blazor"I cant stand a "one person does wrong, so everyone must pay" mentality. Guns dont kill people anymore than a knife, a car, or even a tiger. Its the person, every time.


Would you feel the same if your son was worshipping in a church, when a crazed madman with an AR15 burst in and sprayed the place until all were dead?



Later, it was revealed that he'd purchased the firearm legally, modified it legally and was fully licenced. Would that make it more acceptable?



Throwing millions of guns into a society fracturing at the seams would seem to me to be the very pinnacle of irresponsible stupidity.


My son carries, he would of blew that fuckers head off and not thought twice  :laugh:


The question is... Does he want to save all those muslims?  ac_biggrin





I would be like.... WHITE POWER!



And then I will run away.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Blazor on March 20, 2019, 09:14:19 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"No, you're right.



The American gun ownership madness is beyond control. They are going to slaughter each other in the thousands.


I cant wait  :evilthoughts2:



lol
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Blazor on March 20, 2019, 09:15:14 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Blazor"I cant stand a "one person does wrong, so everyone must pay" mentality. Guns dont kill people anymore than a knife, a car, or even a tiger. Its the person, every time.


Would you feel the same if your son was worshipping in a church, when a crazed madman with an AR15 burst in and sprayed the place until all were dead?



Later, it was revealed that he'd purchased the firearm legally, modified it legally and was fully licenced. Would that make it more acceptable?



Throwing millions of guns into a society fracturing at the seams would seem to me to be the very pinnacle of irresponsible stupidity.


My son carries, he would of blew that fuckers head off and not thought twice  :laugh:


The question is... Does he want to save all those muslims?  ac_biggrin





I would be like.... WHITE POWER!



And then I will run away.




 :roll:  :roll:  :roll:



I forgot the scenario he would of been in lol.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on March 20, 2019, 09:23:55 PM
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Bricktop"No, you're right.



The American gun ownership madness is beyond control. They are going to slaughter each other in the thousands.


I cant wait  :evilthoughts2:



lol


Psycho!!!



 :laugh3:
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Odinson on March 20, 2019, 09:38:32 PM
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Blazor"I cant stand a "one person does wrong, so everyone must pay" mentality. Guns dont kill people anymore than a knife, a car, or even a tiger. Its the person, every time.


Would you feel the same if your son was worshipping in a church, when a crazed madman with an AR15 burst in and sprayed the place until all were dead?



Later, it was revealed that he'd purchased the firearm legally, modified it legally and was fully licenced. Would that make it more acceptable?



Throwing millions of guns into a society fracturing at the seams would seem to me to be the very pinnacle of irresponsible stupidity.


My son carries, he would of blew that fuckers head off and not thought twice  :laugh:


The question is... Does he want to save all those muslims?  ac_biggrin





I would be like.... WHITE POWER!



And then I will run away.




 :roll:  :roll:  :roll:



I forgot the scenario he would of been in lol.


He would be the saviour of muslims..





Not something to be proud of.  ac_biggrin





Though it would be funny to see how the leftie media reacts to such a thing...



Muslims saved by a white guy... A redneck at that.  ac_biggrin
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Frood on March 20, 2019, 10:55:21 PM
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Bricktop"No, you're right.



The American gun ownership madness is beyond control. They are going to slaughter each other in the thousands.


I cant wait  :evilthoughts2:



lol


Some people in the US do tend to appear to be just asking for it.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on March 20, 2019, 11:57:19 PM
And that's a wrap.



NZ copies Australia.



//https://www.9news.com.au/2019/03/21/13/16/new-zealand-gun-ban-jacinda-ardern-christchurch-massacre



Who's next?
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Frood on March 21, 2019, 12:20:27 AM
Stupid Kiwi's.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on March 21, 2019, 12:32:34 AM
You know what I like about you Aaron?



Your stupidity makes me look like a genius.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Frood on March 21, 2019, 01:14:08 AM
Stupid South Australians.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Anonymous on March 21, 2019, 01:17:48 AM
NZ bans types of semi-automatic weapons, high capacity magazines after mass shooting

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/nz-bans-types-of-semi-automatic-weapons-high-capacity-magazines-after-mass-shooting/ar-BBV2dOE?li=AAggFp5&ocid=mailsignout
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Frood on March 21, 2019, 01:19:19 AM
Authoritarians must be creaming their designer jocks right about now.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Blazor on March 21, 2019, 09:21:19 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Bricktop"No, you're right.



The American gun ownership madness is beyond control. They are going to slaughter each other in the thousands.


I cant wait  :evilthoughts2:



lol


Psycho!!!



 :laugh3:


 :tease:
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Blazor on March 21, 2019, 09:22:01 AM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Blazor"I cant stand a "one person does wrong, so everyone must pay" mentality. Guns dont kill people anymore than a knife, a car, or even a tiger. Its the person, every time.


Would you feel the same if your son was worshipping in a church, when a crazed madman with an AR15 burst in and sprayed the place until all were dead?



Later, it was revealed that he'd purchased the firearm legally, modified it legally and was fully licenced. Would that make it more acceptable?



Throwing millions of guns into a society fracturing at the seams would seem to me to be the very pinnacle of irresponsible stupidity.


My son carries, he would of blew that fuckers head off and not thought twice  :laugh:


The question is... Does he want to save all those muslims?  ac_biggrin





I would be like.... WHITE POWER!



And then I will run away.




 :roll:  :roll:  :roll:



I forgot the scenario he would of been in lol.


He would be the saviour of muslims..





Not something to be proud of.  ac_biggrin





Though it would be funny to see how the leftie media reacts to such a thing...



Muslims saved by a white guy... A redneck at that.  ac_biggrin


 :roll:



Oh man their heads would explode!
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Wazzzup on March 21, 2019, 03:54:17 PM
Some info regarding New Zealand and gun control--



In spite of much stricter gun laws Australia actually had 19% more murders by gun than New Zealand.

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Australia/New-Zealand/Crime  



The shooter in New Zealand broke gun laws--he modified his weapons.  Somehow these gun laws didn't stop him.



Firearm homicides have been falling in New Zealand, Australia, Canada and the US

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Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Anonymous on March 21, 2019, 05:16:59 PM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"Some info regarding New Zealand and gun control--



In spite of much stricter gun laws Australia actually had 19% more murders by gun than New Zealand.

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Australia/New-Zealand/Crime  



The shooter in New Zealand broke gun laws--he modified his weapons.  Somehow these gun laws didn't stop him.



Firearm homicides have been falling in New Zealand, Australia, Canada and the US

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That's a good trend.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on March 21, 2019, 05:29:35 PM
If you have studied statistics, you would instantly recognise 2 major flaws with that graph.



Firstly, sample size. You cannot compare vastly diverse sample size scores with each other. Small sample sizes will produce smaller peaks and troughs, and are heavily influenced by large peaks and troughs.



Secondly, the measurement of the statistical survey must be valid. Deaths per hundred thousand may not be the best way to understand the consequence of gun ownership. It may provide a numerical value of the potential to be shot, but it will not describe trends such as mass shooting events.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Frood on March 21, 2019, 06:20:04 PM
:001_rolleyes:
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on March 21, 2019, 06:24:18 PM
Like I said...IF you have studied statistics, as I did...



What are YOUR tertiary qualifications?
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Frood on March 21, 2019, 06:29:10 PM
NOYB but far more than yours.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on March 21, 2019, 06:32:47 PM
:roll:



You're so full of shit you could fertilise a lawn by simply rolling on it.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Frood on March 21, 2019, 06:36:04 PM
Level 9 AQF, stooge.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on March 21, 2019, 06:40:35 PM
What's that? A video game?
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Frood on March 21, 2019, 06:42:18 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"What's that? A video game?


 ac_toofunny



If you don't understand what I mentioned, you're nowhere near the level.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on March 21, 2019, 06:44:51 PM
Aaron, I've never BEEN near your level. And you sure as shit have never been close to mine.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Frood on March 21, 2019, 06:46:22 PM
:001_rolleyes:



Like I said, you have no idea.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on March 21, 2019, 07:25:01 PM
But I do.



I have observed your inanity, stupidity and infantile antics for MANY years. Far too many. I've seen your lies, deceptions and scurrilous duplicity first hand. I've watched you revel in humiliating others for no other reason but to impress the cretins you look up to.



Nobody with that mentality would possess anything more than an attendance slip, let alone a Master's Degree.



Your vacuous claim is just another Freudian concoction.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Frood on March 21, 2019, 07:29:50 PM
:MG_216:



Just to rub salt into your wounds, did I mention that my qualifications were awarded by non classroom assessments?  :yahoo:
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on March 21, 2019, 07:33:21 PM
WTF has that to do with anything??



Pray tell, then...in what field do you hold these "qualifications"?
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Frood on March 21, 2019, 07:34:48 PM
ac_lmfao



NOYB, again.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on March 21, 2019, 07:35:56 PM
Like I said, you have a Masters in "SFA".
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Frood on March 21, 2019, 07:47:02 PM
ac_lmfao



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1 x L8

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All free/no classroom time



 ac_razz
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on March 21, 2019, 08:01:50 PM
All bullshit/no class.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Frood on March 21, 2019, 08:04:47 PM
:laugh3:



You asked for it, Mr Statistical Analysis. Don't turn your nose up when you can't handle the result.



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Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on March 21, 2019, 08:38:04 PM
Whatever you say, Mr Deflect/Obfuscate/Lie/Bullshit.



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Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Frood on March 21, 2019, 08:40:40 PM
ac_lmfao



'One donut plus two donuts equals...........smoko break!'
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on March 21, 2019, 08:52:01 PM
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Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Frood on March 21, 2019, 09:08:16 PM
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Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on March 21, 2019, 09:13:26 PM
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Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Frood on March 21, 2019, 09:18:48 PM
https://youtu.be/FyE058yxFvY
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on March 21, 2019, 10:45:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXhaBHGhUOI
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Frood on March 21, 2019, 11:14:36 PM
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Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on March 22, 2019, 12:27:52 AM
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Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Frood on March 22, 2019, 12:34:21 AM
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Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Anonymous on March 22, 2019, 01:08:05 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.dailymail.co.uk%2Fi%2Fpix%2F2014%2F07%2F10%2Farticle-0-1F8B586800000578-327_634x413.jpg&f=1%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%20...%2013.jpg&f=1%22%3Ehttps://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.dailymail.co.uk%2Fi%2Fpix%2F2014%2F07%2F10%2Farticle-0-1F8B586800000578-327_634x413.jpg&f=1%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)

He seems very proud of himself.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on March 22, 2019, 01:11:27 AM
Yep.



That's Aaron.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Anonymous on March 22, 2019, 01:18:41 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Yep.



That's Aaron.

That would be so embarrassing.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Gaon on June 16, 2019, 02:56:23 PM
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Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Anonymous on June 16, 2019, 02:58:29 PM
I know that's only a meme Gaon, but to compare those totalitarians to what New Zealand has done is more than a stretch.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Gaon on June 16, 2019, 03:35:05 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"I know that's only a meme Gaon, but to compare those totalitarians to what New Zealand has done is more than a stretch.

I would not make such a silly comparison.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Wazzzup on June 16, 2019, 05:01:25 PM
They didn't need to ban guns. the New Zealand firearm murder rate declined the same as Australia's, who banned guns.



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Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on June 16, 2019, 06:51:06 PM
As always, a set of lines makes a nice headline, but fails to explain the numbers in the graph.



The reduction is ONLY in relation to homicide deaths. Not total firearm related deaths. Given the population size of New Zealand, Australia and Canada compared to the US, the correct measurement for comparison is the standard deviation, not average per 100,000.



This is why people declare there are lies, damn lies and statistics. People roll out a statistic which is not an accurate measurement of the true data.



Also, the statistics do not explain the cause of the spikes and troughs, which are far more meaningful.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on June 16, 2019, 06:52:27 PM
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Ah, memes...where lies go in order to deceive.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Skippy on June 16, 2019, 06:59:38 PM
I decry the Howard restrictions on gun ownership in the aftermath of the port Arthur massacre. Australia is in a precarious situation being surrounded by hostile Asian countries. Japanese admiral yamamoto one said invasion of the US was impossible because there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass. Now that oz has disarmed itself they are vunarable to china and Indonesia. Thank god some aussies buried their semi automatics to use if they are invaded
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on June 16, 2019, 07:23:06 PM
Perhaps before the Japanese or anyone else considers invading Australia on the premise that there are fewer guns per capita than other nations, they may wish to consider invading Italy, Mexico, Russia, Northern Ireland, South Africa or Spain...amongst the almost 180 nations with fewer guns per capita than Australia.



//https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country



Prior to the invasion of their country by the US, the Iraqi's provided thousands of civilians with AK47's to supplement the military with a civilian security force.



Most of them, on seeing a US tank or helicopter, dropped their weapons and legged it.



Most civilians in any other country would do the same thing. Including the US.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Skippy on June 16, 2019, 07:39:03 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Perhaps before the Japanese or anyone else considers invading Australia on the premise that there are fewer guns per capita than other nations, they may wish to consider invading Italy, Mexico, Russia, Northern Ireland, South Africa or Spain...amongst the almost 180 nations with fewer guns per capita than Australia.



//https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country



Prior to the invasion of their country by the US, the Iraqi's provided thousands of civilians with AK47's to supplement the military with a civilian security force.



Most of them, on seeing a US tank or helicopter, dropped their weapons and legged it.



Most civilians in any other country would do the same thing. Including the US.

They will want to invade for its reasourses the gold mines and opals and iron ore, just like Hitler invaded Russia for the same aim. I suppose the US and UK won't be around for ever to protect australia
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on June 16, 2019, 08:11:56 PM
I doubt our gold resources are of a dimension to attract unwanted guests and amongst all of the idiotic, asinine and pointless reasons men have gone to war, none would be so silly and trite as wanting access to opals. The world already has access to our vast iron ore stocks.



The US, UK, Canada and New Zealand will always stand together, because we share common geneology and racial origins. We are, in effect, cousins in a very real sense. Perhaps New Zealand will stand alone, but if push came to shove, they would help as they've done in the past.



Invading Australia would be no easy task. There is no chance of a surprise attack, given the distances required to reach our shores with a military force capable of invasion. Australia would probably have MONTHS of forewarning, and on that basis, any invader would need to consider where they would land. If they tried to circumvent the country to land in the south or east, their fleet would be easy pickings. The only realistic option would be to invade from the north.



They would then need to cross the vast expanse of desert and bushland that has very little water to reach the larger population centres. Australia is not like Iraq, where the desert is just a flat sandpit. Australia's desert is harsh landscape, with very few roads (that would have been destroyed before the enemy fleet arrived). It is a massive barrier between north and south east, with few passages for military convoys. Any mobilisation would be exposed to air attacks as well as ground based disruption. Australia would be tougher to invade than Afghanistan.



Australia's military is modern and well equipped, with full backing and support from the US and the UK. The US is bound to Australia's defence by the ANZUS treaty, which binds the two nations together in time of conflict. In return the US operates strategically crucial espionage facilities in Australia. Any attack on Australia would be an attack on US interests.



Australia's status with the US is the equivalent of Israel's...even stronger when you consider the racial and cultural commonalities.



Our potential enemies know this well.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Skippy on June 16, 2019, 09:23:47 PM
Any invasion by China of Australia would likely be followed by ethnic cleansing, just like they are doing in Tibet, Siankiang (East Turkistan) and Inner Mongolia, owing to the size of the chinese population they could flood Austraila with 100 million han chinese
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Bricktop on June 16, 2019, 09:32:25 PM
I think you need to peruse an atlas.



Whilst I take the point you're making...moving 100 million people ANYWHERE would be a logistical mountain of problems. And how will they feed themselves when they get here. Australia does not have the capacity to feed and water that many people.



If China wanted to extend it's boundaries, it would be far better to move into SE Asia and Korea than Australia.
Title: Re: New Zealand now understands gun control
Post by: Anonymous on June 17, 2019, 12:04:42 AM
Quote from: "Skippy"I decry the Howard restrictions on gun ownership in the aftermath of the port Arthur massacre. Australia is in a precarious situation being surrounded by hostile Asian countries. Japanese admiral yamamoto one said invasion of the US was impossible because there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass. Now that oz has disarmed itself they are vunarable to china and Indonesia. Thank god some aussies buried their semi automatics to use if they are invaded

If China does invade, their plan probably is not a conventional invasion..



They will bring a nation to it's knees with an economic embargo and e-warfare.
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