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Title: Cronus's Hate Speech OP
Post by: Frood on May 14, 2019, 10:08:13 AM
https://thebluecashew.net/reject-rodeo-f10/hate-speech-t10763.html



I'm like totally floored by it. He posted it in RR so does that mean it applies in particular to RR and anywhere else in this forum?



I've always thought RR was the place to be voluntarily disruptive, insulting, or ripped off your tits. A not to be taken serious sort of thing. Are Canadian law enforcement  people such simple minded puss pusses these days that this is an actual thing?



If so, they are spineless morons.
Title: Re: Cronus's Hate Speech OP
Post by: Cronus on May 14, 2019, 12:20:04 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"https://thebluecashew.net/reject-rodeo-f10/hate-speech-t10763.html



I'm like totally floored by it. He posted it in RR so does that mean it applies in particular to RR and anywhere else in this forum?



I've always thought RR was the place to be voluntarily disruptive, insulting, or ripped off your tits. A not to be taken serious sort of thing. Are Canadian law enforcement  people such simple minded puss pusses these days that this is an actual thing?



If so, they are spineless morons.

It's Canadian law. Spineless or not, still the law. We have always had rule 4 and it does apply across the board on all subs.
Title: Re: Cronus's Hate Speech OP
Post by: Anonymous on May 14, 2019, 12:35:26 PM
Works for me.  Anyone wanting to be more juvenile than that rule allows needs a playpen and a big box of crayons, and some damn privacy.
Title: Re: Cronus's Hate Speech OP
Post by: Anonymous on May 14, 2019, 02:02:45 PM
It cramps old Herman's style.
Title: Re: Cronus's Hate Speech OP
Post by: Berry Sweet on May 14, 2019, 06:38:02 PM
Quote from: "Cronus"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"https://thebluecashew.net/reject-rodeo-f10/hate-speech-t10763.html



I'm like totally floored by it. He posted it in RR so does that mean it applies in particular to RR and anywhere else in this forum?



I've always thought RR was the place to be voluntarily disruptive, insulting, or ripped off your tits. A not to be taken serious sort of thing. Are Canadian law enforcement  people such simple minded puss pusses these days that this is an actual thing?



If so, they are spineless morons.

It's Canadian law. Spineless or not, still the law. We have always had rule 4 and it does apply across the board on all subs.


Yes, its the law and its implemented for a reason.  Its amazing how so many can not understand this.
Title: Re: Cronus's Hate Speech OP
Post by: Bricktop on May 14, 2019, 07:06:52 PM
What law is it, exactly?
Title: Re: Cronus's Hate Speech OP
Post by: Berry Sweet on May 15, 2019, 03:00:50 AM
My law.  Where everyone does what I say.  Works for me.
Title: Re: Cronus's Hate Speech OP
Post by: Anonymous on May 15, 2019, 11:24:20 AM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"My law.  Where everyone does what I say.  Works for me.

I believe you would be a benevolent empress Berry.

 ac_smile
Title: Re: Cronus's Hate Speech OP
Post by: Biggie Smiles on May 15, 2019, 02:00:48 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"What law is it, exactly?




The law of sit down and shut the fuck up because the forum is owned by a person who happens to be concerned with the negative consequences any misapplication of existing hate speech laws might bring to her.



Put your narcissism in a pickle jar for a moment and understand that if she is so much visited by local authorities for any reason, no matter the eventual outcome, that itself is too far a price to pay to allow monkeys like Herman to spew vilified nonsense about like this were their personal toilet.



if she doesn't want racist comments on her board then she doesn't want it on her board. Who the fuck died and left you in charge of what one should or should not do with something that isn't yours to begin with?
Title: Re: Cronus's Hate Speech OP
Post by: Anonymous on May 15, 2019, 03:28:31 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"What law is it, exactly?

Sections 318, 319 (1) and 319(2) of Canada's criminal code.
Title: Re: Cronus's Hate Speech OP
Post by: caskur on May 15, 2019, 03:29:54 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"What law is it, exactly?


Just call all undesirables cockroaches.
Title: Re: Cronus's Hate Speech OP
Post by: Bricktop on May 15, 2019, 06:55:15 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Bricktop"What law is it, exactly?

Sections 318, 319 (1) and 319(2) of Canada's criminal code.


Which does not apply outside of Canada.
Title: Re: Cronus's Hate Speech OP
Post by: Anonymous on May 15, 2019, 07:17:28 PM
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Bricktop"What law is it, exactly?


Just call all undesirables cockroaches.

I prefer shitter shiners.
Title: Re: Cronus's Hate Speech OP
Post by: Anonymous on May 15, 2019, 07:28:14 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Bricktop"What law is it, exactly?

Sections 318, 319 (1) and 319(2) of Canada's criminal code.


Which does not apply outside of Canada.


I'm prepared to assume that Canada is the location of the server and the registered address of the domain.



I imagine that's enough.
Title: Re: Cronus's Hate Speech OP
Post by: Bricktop on May 15, 2019, 07:56:18 PM
You may assume such, but my browser tells me the server is located in the US.



It also tells me that current legal precedence does not hold a proprietor libel for comments and content made by members. Otherwise Zuckerberg et al would be doing time.



Ergo, for me to break Canadian law, I would have to be IN Canada, and identified as the person who made comments that were considered illegal.



Whether or not any such comments are offensive, hateful or inciting, the fact is that laws are confined to the sovereign nation that enacts them...except for the US, which still believes its laws can be applied globally when it suits.



So, if "hate" speech (whatever that is) is posted in a forum, the only applicable legislation is that which exists in the poster's home country.



Then the authorities have to prove that the poster is the individual under suspicion.



Here's a tip, kiddies. If Mr Plod comes knocking, provide your name and address and STFU.
Title: Re: Cronus's Hate Speech OP
Post by: caskur on May 16, 2019, 05:15:24 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"You may assume such, but my browser tells me the server is located in the US.



It also tells me that current legal precedence does not hold a proprietor libel for comments and content made by members. Otherwise Zuckerberg et al would be doing time.



Ergo, for me to break Canadian law, I would have to be IN Canada, and identified as the person who made comments that were considered illegal.



Whether or not any such comments are offensive, hateful or inciting, the fact is that laws are confined to the sovereign nation that enacts them...except for the US, which still believes its laws can be applied globally when it suits.



So, if "hate" speech (whatever that is) is posted in a forum, the only applicable legislation is that which exists in the poster's home country.



Then the authorities have to prove that the poster is the individual under suspicion.



Here's a tip, kiddies. If Mr Plod comes knocking, provide your name and address and STFU.


All this is true except the server can and does take down sites when there is a threat of suing.



AlphaNova had my forums net copped and he used Badfuckinazi's harmless posts to do it. AND I was paying $40 a month for the forum at the time.





THEN under the "smf for free" format I have now... all "mature" words are forcibly censored, even words like gamble, casino, cockatoo, bong post like this ****.
Title: Re: Cronus's Hate Speech OP
Post by: Anonymous on May 16, 2019, 11:37:40 AM
I don't write the laws in Canada.



Message board operators liable for defamatory posts says court: Baglow v. Smith

http://www.barrysookman.com/2015/03/01/message-board-operators-liable-for-defamatory-posts-says-court-baglow-v-smith/
Title: Re: Cronus's Hate Speech OP
Post by: Bricktop on May 16, 2019, 07:09:17 PM
Nice try. Wrong law.



Forum owners have long been held liable for defamatory slander posted by members, as all publishers are.



This is not relevant to "hate speech".
Title: Re: Cronus's Hate Speech OP
Post by: Biggie Smiles on May 16, 2019, 07:22:22 PM
Well there you go Fash, you should feel very comfortable now.



PillowTop, Managing partner at Shitsmears & Syphilis ESQ. has advised you pro Bono
Title: Re: Cronus's Hate Speech OP
Post by: Trump’s Niece on May 16, 2019, 07:27:10 PM
Why is he even encouraging it ?





Bricktop seems to enjoy the cross forum drama more than anyone.





Over here trying to bully the admin. Shame on him
Title: Re: Cronus's Hate Speech OP
Post by: Anonymous on May 16, 2019, 08:02:43 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Nice try. Wrong law.



Forum owners have long been held liable for defamatory slander posted by members, as all publishers are.



This is not relevant to "hate speech".

It wasn't meant to be....it was about liability..



Seoul posted the relevant sections of Canada's hate speech laws..



The only loss to free speech here are Herman's alcohol soaked racist rants.
Title: Re: Cronus's Hate Speech OP
Post by: Bricktop on May 16, 2019, 08:52:47 PM
It's OK...I'm cool with whatever you wish to apply...



I do have a problem with the ever growing imposition on freedom of speech, however.



I think we're on the precipice; one more step and governments will control our speech...and thoughts.
Title: Re: Cronus's Hate Speech OP
Post by: Biggie Smiles on May 16, 2019, 09:34:42 PM
Pillowtop is ""OK"", Fash.





Don't you just feel fucking relieved right now?



I'm so excited personally I'm gonna go move some bowels
Title: Re: Cronus's Hate Speech OP
Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2019, 12:32:11 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"It's OK...I'm cool with whatever you wish to apply...



I do have a problem with the ever growing imposition on freedom of speech, however.



I think we're on the precipice; one more step and governments will control our speech...and thoughts.

That is true. We have a pm that is giving our money to media that is friendly to his regime.
Title: Re: Cronus's Hate Speech OP
Post by: Bricktop on May 17, 2019, 06:23:16 PM
And we're about to get one...



Most predict we're about to elect the worst government in our history.