I stumbled across this.
I found myself in agreement in all but #3.
If you have a spare 15 minutes, tell us what you think...
(and everyone else into music as well, of course).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I__TSqcHsU
TOP 2 REASONS NOT TO WATCH THIS:
2. "My producer made me do this."
1. "I love Ace Frehley."
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Yeah...but watch it anyway.
You know you want to.
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You know you want to.
I did watch it. How else would I have come up with the quotes?
If I had my Fender Classical guitar still, I'd smash it over Peaches.
And because I love to derail threads...
Knopfler and Clapton
https://youtu.be/ouQbb9MbOx0
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You know you want to.
I did watch it. How else would I have come up with the quotes?
:oeudC:
So did you concur? Dispute? Dismiss? Shrug?
I gotta agree with all of that. Although I am okay with Zak wylde. I always thought Layla was a great song but Clapton's solos put me to sleep
On the flipside there are a lot of great players you'll never hear of. Here's one in my opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6rBK0BqL2w
BTW this seems timely (start at 2:00)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i0a7RDPkM8
BTW
One of the guitar players in that is the GoT theme composer
And another is Dan Weiss GoT writer producer
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I would have put Clapton at #1.
Vastly overrated in my view.
That does not mean bad...just not deserving of the mythological reverence he receives. I'v e never been able to listen to any of his slbums right through. Terribly dull, meandering and at best "middle of the road" blues based pop.
Quote from: "Peaches"
2. "My producer made me do this."
1. "I love Ace Frehley."
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I like one song by Ace Frehley.
Best guitar players,..
Neil Young and Mark Knopfler (Dire Straights)... hands down.
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I would have put Clapton at #1.
Vastly overrated in my view.
That does not mean bad...just not deserving of the mythological reverence he receives. I'v e never been able to listen to any of his slbums right through. Terribly dull, meandering and at best "middle of the road" blues based pop.
Here's the problem with people knocking Clapton or Santana or Hendrix, in a nutshell.
All 3 of them, while they were absorbing music from one or several major roots, successfully put down another, NEW tap root which has continued to nourish succeeding generations of players. Basically, all three of them HEARD something no one previously had heard, and transmitted it to the ears of those who could hear it. I could be specific about what that was, in each of their cases, but that's outside of the assignment you've given me. But Clapton peaked in Mayall's band, and again to a lesser extent in Cream when (probably with Bruce's prodding) he fused Clapton's blues and some Geoff Beck licks from the Yardbirds.) But the lightning bolt of hearing BB King and his ilk, and savagely translating them into white English, was really Clapton's supreme achievement. And as early as 1969 I sat in a dinky music store in Middle America and heard a 7th grade boy play every single riff and note Clapton had recorded with Mayall, note for note, with nearly all of the emotional content. By 1972 everyone in the world was playing Clapton's gifts, and sadly he never had any more epiphanies. He remained adequate as a craftsman, but he had no more to offer. Gary Moore could and did play Clapton's blues to perfection after Thin Lizzy's heyday, but did you notice that even though he eventually captured Robin Bell's licks he never remotely sounded like Robin Bell?
Santana fused salsa with the (mostly English) rock guitar sensibility he heard from Peter Green, Beck, and others, and he's been coasting ever since (although he's maybe done a modicum of innovating.) But get on YT and see how many 14 year old girls are covering Samba Pa Ti, and you'll start to understand his legacy which is considerable.
I forgot to mention...Slash doesn't belong on this list either. I can't be arsed to explain that, my post is already too long.
A kid starting out in say 1990 with the guitar will hear and absorb all that shit, often without knowing to whom he owes what debt. Those guys are already in the canon, though, and there's no denying them their props. But sure, most guys on this list are mediocre. Nancy Wilson of Heart plays more guitar than any of them, and was doing so by 1975. The point is valid, it's stupid to venerate a guy whose signature and sole contribution is the use of a stomp pedal built by some electrical engineer.
You'll never see guys like Zappa, Vai, Geoff Beck, SRV, or even a legion of session players whose names you probably don't even know, on a list like this. Those guys are where the magic is.
I do wish Clapton wouldn't embarrass himself by thinking he's got the stuff to sit in with Wynton Marsalis's jazz band, though, just because he's spent some woodshed time over the past few years learning a few jazz standards. That cringe-worthy disaster is on YT too, but please don't watch it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i0a7RDPkM8
BTW
One of the guitar players in that is the GoT theme composer
And another is Dan Weiss GoT writer producer
That was fun, but in view of its being a composition for cellos I'd much rather have seen some Gibson guitars in that army. You really need the quack of dual coil pickups IMHO.
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Neil Young and Mark Knopfler (Dire Straights)... hands down.
I'm afraid you'll need submit your audition tape in order for your opinions to carry any weight.
Has a point with Neil Young. He can wield a mighty axe, to be sure.
When on full roar with Crazy Horse, he's a force of nature.
Knopfler in my view was deadly dull and no virtuoso.
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Before his death, BB was in Australia for the Bluesfest. Dylan was touring.
Some clever and wealthy promoter managed to double bill them for a few shows, and we were lucky enough to grab a couple of tickets.
BB opened, and when he played it was like witnessing the Big Bang. He and Lucille changed the world. The auditorium was packed, and in raptures of this 83 year old man playing his guitar. And his voice was so powerful.
Dylan followed, and about 20% of the crowd left.
What does THAT say.
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Quote from: "Peaches"
Before his death, BB was in Australia for the Bluesfest. Dylan was touring.
Some clever and wealthy promoter managed to double bill them for a few shows, and we were lucky enough to grab a couple of tickets.
BB opened, and when he played it was like witnessing the Big Bang. He and Lucille changed the world. The auditorium was packed, and in raptures of this 83 year old man playing his guitar. And his voice was so powerful.
Dylan followed, and about 20% of the crowd left.
What does THAT say.
I saw BB a few times in the late sixties. One was a triple bill with Albert King and Muddy Waters, but they didn't share the stage or jam together.
Pity.
It would have been good if BB came out to share the stage with Dylan.
It might have made him listenable. Worst concert EVER.