Nope, it's not Groundhog Day.
They have to do it all again because nobody wanted to get into bed with Benjamin.
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Nope, it's not Groundhog Day.
They have to do it all again because nobody wanted to get into bed with Benjamin.
Oh my goodness..
:ohmy:
I wonder where Gaon is..
This is surprising.
Maybe queuing at the polling booth?
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Maybe queuing at the polling booth?
He had a change in jobs recently that likely means less time to post.
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Nope, it's not Groundhog Day.
They have to do it all again because nobody wanted to get into bed with Benjamin.
That didn't last long.
This is the first time in Israel's history that a prime minister-designate has failed to form a coalition.
At the heart of the impasse was a military conscription bill governing exemptions for ultra-Orthodox Jewish seminary students.
Bibi clashed with former Defence Minister Avigdor Lieberman, who is my candidate, and whose support was vital.
Mr Lieberman, from the nationalist Yisrael Beitenu party, had made it a condition of allying with ultra-Orthodox Jewish parties that they change their military draft exemptions.
Netanyahu pushed for new elections to prevent Israeli President Reuven Rivlin selecting another member of parliament to try to form a government.
A new election will be held in September.
Quote from: "Gaon"
This is the first time in Israel's history that a prime minister-designate has failed to form a coalition.
At the heart of the impasse was a military conscription bill governing exemptions for ultra-Orthodox Jewish seminary students.
Bibi clashed with former Defence Minister Avigdor Lieberman, who is my candidate, and whose support was vital.
Mr Lieberman, from the nationalist Yisrael Beitenu party, had made it a condition of allying with ultra-Orthodox Jewish parties that they change their military draft exemptions.
Netanyahu pushed for new elections to prevent Israeli President Reuven Rivlin selecting another member of parliament to try to form a government.
A new election will be held in September.
It must be hard to form a coalition between secularists and ultra religious parties. The latter probably are not going to compromise.
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Gaon"
This is the first time in Israel's history that a prime minister-designate has failed to form a coalition.
At the heart of the impasse was a military conscription bill governing exemptions for ultra-Orthodox Jewish seminary students.
Bibi clashed with former Defence Minister Avigdor Lieberman, who is my candidate, and whose support was vital.
Mr Lieberman, from the nationalist Yisrael Beitenu party, had made it a condition of allying with ultra-Orthodox Jewish parties that they change their military draft exemptions.
Netanyahu pushed for new elections to prevent Israeli President Reuven Rivlin selecting another member of parliament to try to form a government.
A new election will be held in September.
It must be hard to form a coalition between secularists and ultra religious parties. The latter probably are not going to compromise.
But, the two sides have compromised before.
Avigdor Lieberman could be kingmaker or kingbreaker after September's election.
Netanyahu's coalition options will be reduced, with the ultra-Orthodox and the religious right his only potential partners. Far from being a potential ally, we all now know that Liberman, his former top aide, defense minister and foreign minister, is a resolute and potent political enemy.
Netanyahu has made clear since the Liberman-engineered fiasco of his bid to build a coalition that he will do everything in his power to try to prevent Yisrael Beytenu winning enough votes to get back into the Knesset and haunt him again. But a first new set of polls, taken on Thursday, suggest this will be impossible. Liberman is on the rise.
The people shall decide.
It must be nice to have two good candidates to pick from Lieberman and Netanyahu. We usually don't even have one (at least we didn't before Trump). I'm envious.
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
It must be nice to have two good candidates to pick from Lieberman and Netanyahu. We usually don't even have one (at least we didn't before Trump). I'm envious.
They are both good candidates, and either would continue to improve Israel. Like most Russians, I prefer Lieberman. He has the best plan for Israel's cultural and defensive security. But, it's becoming increasingly harder for the two of them to work together. Bibi is in a pickle. If he appeals to the secularist Russian community, he alienates the religious right and vice versa.
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
It must be nice to have two good candidates to pick from Lieberman and Netanyahu. We usually don't even have one (at least we didn't before Trump). I'm envious.
We don't have one good candidate in Canada. We vote for the least bad or least proggy.
Senior Likud Minister Says Netanyahu Would Agree to a Unity Government With Gantz
Tzachi Hanegbi says he has 'no doubt' the premier would agree to a coalition with Kahol Lavan, but Likud brushes off his comments
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/elections/.premium-senior-likud-minister-says-netanyahu-would-agree-to-a-unity-government-with-gantz-1.7312886
Likud denies this, but I believe the two sides have had informal talks. Benny Gantz cannot be trusted.
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Quote from: "Wazzzup"
It must be nice to have two good candidates to pick from Lieberman and Netanyahu. We usually don't even have one (at least we didn't before Trump). I'm envious.
We don't have one good candidate in Canada. We vote for the least bad or least proggy.
I can empathize before Trump look at our last three choices Bush, Romney, Mccain, all terrible.
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
It must be nice to have two good candidates to pick from Lieberman and Netanyahu. We usually don't even have one (at least we didn't before Trump). I'm envious.
We don't have one good candidate in Canada. We vote for the least bad or least proggy.
Politics in doesn't really offer much choice.
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
It must be nice to have two good candidates to pick from Lieberman and Netanyahu. We usually don't even have one (at least we didn't before Trump). I'm envious.
We don't have one good candidate in Canada. We vote for the least bad or least proggy.
I can empathize before Trump look at our last three choices Bush, Romney, Mccain, all terrible.
One of the top people in the Conservative party, Maxime Bernier left the Tories and started his own party. He is forcing the weak leader of the Conservatives, Andrew Scheer, to grow a pair.
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
It must be nice to have two good candidates to pick from Lieberman and Netanyahu. We usually don't even have one (at least we didn't before Trump). I'm envious.
We don't have one good candidate in Canada. We vote for the least bad or least proggy.
I can empathize before Trump look at our last three choices Bush, Romney, Mccain, all terrible.
One of the top people in the Conservative party, Maxime Bernier left the Tories and started his own party. He is forcing the weak leader of the Conservatives, Andrew Scheer, to grow a pair.
Scheer will be better than Justine because simply because he won't have a resource industry hating progtard like Gerald Butts pulling his strings. But, Scheer is still a frickin prog.
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
It must be nice to have two good candidates to pick from Lieberman and Netanyahu. We usually don't even have one (at least we didn't before Trump). I'm envious.
We don't have one good candidate in Canada. We vote for the least bad or least proggy.
I can empathize before Trump look at our last three choices Bush, Romney, Mccain, all terrible.
One of the top people in the Conservative party, Maxime Bernier left the Tories and started his own party. He is forcing the weak leader of the Conservatives, Andrew Scheer, to grow a pair.
Scheer will be better than Justine because simply because he won't have a resource industry hating progtard like Gerald Butts pulling his strings. But, Scheer is still a frickin prog.
Mad Max is forcing Scheer in the "right" direction.
The Jeffrey Epstein scandal has found its way into Israel's elections
Jeffrey Epstein is suddenly the biggest name in Israeli politics.
Six weeks into what has been an otherwise quiet election campaign, the Jewish-American multi-millionaire, who was charged in New York with sex trafficking of minors on Monday, is now the focus of a war of words between Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and rival Ehud Barak.
Netanyahu attacked the man who once served as his Defense Minister for his connections to Epstein -- who has pleaded not guilty to the charges -- while also accusing the media of burying the story.
In a slickly produced video released on Netanyahu's Twitter account on Tuesday, a narrator says: "Meet Jeffrey Epstein. Suspected of pedophilia and a rich past in sexual offenses. Epstein was the head of the Wexner Foundation that gave Barak 2.3 million dollars for a research program that never was and never came to be. What else did the sexual offender give Ehud Barak? Is the media going to wake up?"
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/11/middleeast/jeffrey-epstein-barak-netanyahu-israel-elections-intl/index.html
Quote from: "Gaon"
The Jeffrey Epstein scandal has found its way into Israel's elections
Jeffrey Epstein is suddenly the biggest name in Israeli politics.
Six weeks into what has been an otherwise quiet election campaign, the Jewish-American multi-millionaire, who was charged in New York with sex trafficking of minors on Monday, is now the focus of a war of words between Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and rival Ehud Barak.
Netanyahu attacked the man who once served as his Defense Minister for his connections to Epstein -- who has pleaded not guilty to the charges -- while also accusing the media of burying the story.
In a slickly produced video released on Netanyahu's Twitter account on Tuesday, a narrator says: "Meet Jeffrey Epstein. Suspected of pedophilia and a rich past in sexual offenses. Epstein was the head of the Wexner Foundation that gave Barak 2.3 million dollars for a research program that never was and never came to be. What else did the sexual offender give Ehud Barak? Is the media going to wake up?"
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/11/middleeast/jeffrey-epstein-barak-netanyahu-israel-elections-intl/index.html
He is a big name in the UK too. Prince Andrew and possibly Tony Blair enjoyed being close friends of Epstein.
Former Justice Minister Ayelet Shaked could be the new power broker in September election.

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Former Israeli Justice Minister Ayelet Shaked takes helm of party she founded with Bennett, urges right wing to join forces
On eve of existential election, Israel's center-left is on the verge of implosion
Is Labor's new partner a bridge or a barrier for Israel's left?
A coalition of prominent Israeli right-wing parties led by former Justice Minister Ayelet Shaked would receive 12 to 13 Knesset seats after the September 17 election, setting it to become the third largest party in parliament, polls published by Israeli media on Sunday project.
Channel 12 News and Kan public broadcaster published opinion polls after Shaked formally announced that she would lead Hayamin Hehadash, the party she co-founded with Naftali Bennett.
Their party is projected six to eight seats, according to the polls, but amid speculations over a possible team-up with the far-right Union of Right-Wing Parties, polls suggest a joint run would possibly garner the larger coalition more Knesset seats than their number of seats combined, should they run in two separate slates.
According to the Kan poll, Likud is neck and neck with Kahol Lavan, with both projected to win 30 seats. Should Hayamin Hehadash and the Union of Right-Wing Parties run on a joint ticket, Likud is projected 28 seats and Kahol Lavan 29.
Both major parties are projected to lose some seats to smaller parties, but former Prime Minister Ehud Barak's Democratic Israel, which was seen by some on the left as a potential game-changer, is projected merely four Knesset seats by Channel 12, while Kan says it would not even pass the 3.25-percent electoral threshold.
According to the polls, the Labor Party would earn seven to eight Knesset seats following its recently-announced joint run with Gesher's Orli Levi-Abekasis, one to two seats more than it generated in April's election.
Should the Joint List, a coalition of Arab-majority parties, run on a joint ticket, it would receive 10 to 11 seats, the polls suggest, while Avigdor Lieberman's Yisrael Beiteinu would garner nine to 10 seats.
The ultra-Orthodox United Torah Judaism party is meanwhile projected to receive eight seats, whereas Shas is projected to seven, according to both polls.
Left-wing Meretz is projected to receive four to five Knesset seats.
The Channel 12 News survey was conducted by the Midgam Institute and IPanel on July 21, 2019, among 502 respondents in a nation-wide, representative sample of the population age 18 and over. Margin of error: 4.4 percent.
The Kan survey was conducted online by the Kantar Institute on July 21, 2019, among 546 out of a pool of 1,635 respondents, representative sample of the population age 18 and over. Margin of error: 4.3 percent.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/elections/polls-joint-run-of-israeli-right-wing-parties-generates-12-13-knesset-seats-1.7546786
Quote from: "Gaon"
Former Justice Minister Ayelet Shaked could be the new power broker in September election.

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Former Israeli Justice Minister Ayelet Shaked takes helm of party she founded with Bennett, urges right wing to join forces
On eve of existential election, Israel's center-left is on the verge of implosion
Is Labor's new partner a bridge or a barrier for Israel's left?
A coalition of prominent Israeli right-wing parties led by former Justice Minister Ayelet Shaked would receive 12 to 13 Knesset seats after the September 17 election, setting it to become the third largest party in parliament, polls published by Israeli media on Sunday project.
Channel 12 News and Kan public broadcaster published opinion polls after Shaked formally announced that she would lead Hayamin Hehadash, the party she co-founded with Naftali Bennett.
Their party is projected six to eight seats, according to the polls, but amid speculations over a possible team-up with the far-right Union of Right-Wing Parties, polls suggest a joint run would possibly garner the larger coalition more Knesset seats than their number of seats combined, should they run in two separate slates.
According to the Kan poll, Likud is neck and neck with Kahol Lavan, with both projected to win 30 seats. Should Hayamin Hehadash and the Union of Right-Wing Parties run on a joint ticket, Likud is projected 28 seats and Kahol Lavan 29.
Both major parties are projected to lose some seats to smaller parties, but former Prime Minister Ehud Barak's Democratic Israel, which was seen by some on the left as a potential game-changer, is projected merely four Knesset seats by Channel 12, while Kan says it would not even pass the 3.25-percent electoral threshold.
According to the polls, the Labor Party would earn seven to eight Knesset seats following its recently-announced joint run with Gesher's Orli Levi-Abekasis, one to two seats more than it generated in April's election.
Should the Joint List, a coalition of Arab-majority parties, run on a joint ticket, it would receive 10 to 11 seats, the polls suggest, while Avigdor Lieberman's Yisrael Beiteinu would garner nine to 10 seats.
The ultra-Orthodox United Torah Judaism party is meanwhile projected to receive eight seats, whereas Shas is projected to seven, according to both polls.
Left-wing Meretz is projected to receive four to five Knesset seats.
The Channel 12 News survey was conducted by the Midgam Institute and IPanel on July 21, 2019, among 502 respondents in a nation-wide, representative sample of the population age 18 and over. Margin of error: 4.4 percent.
The Kan survey was conducted online by the Kantar Institute on July 21, 2019, among 546 out of a pool of 1,635 respondents, representative sample of the population age 18 and over. Margin of error: 4.3 percent.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/elections/polls-joint-run-of-israeli-right-wing-parties-generates-12-13-knesset-seats-1.7546786
I would not kick her out of the sack for eating crackers.
Quote from: "Gaon"
Former Justice Minister Ayelet Shaked could be the new power broker in September election.

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Former Israeli Justice Minister Ayelet Shaked takes helm of party she founded with Bennett, urges right wing to join forces
On eve of existential election, Israel's center-left is on the verge of implosion
Is Labor's new partner a bridge or a barrier for Israel's left?
A coalition of prominent Israeli right-wing parties led by former Justice Minister Ayelet Shaked would receive 12 to 13 Knesset seats after the September 17 election, setting it to become the third largest party in parliament, polls published by Israeli media on Sunday project.
Channel 12 News and Kan public broadcaster published opinion polls after Shaked formally announced that she would lead Hayamin Hehadash, the party she co-founded with Naftali Bennett.
Their party is projected six to eight seats, according to the polls, but amid speculations over a possible team-up with the far-right Union of Right-Wing Parties, polls suggest a joint run would possibly garner the larger coalition more Knesset seats than their number of seats combined, should they run in two separate slates.
According to the Kan poll, Likud is neck and neck with Kahol Lavan, with both projected to win 30 seats. Should Hayamin Hehadash and the Union of Right-Wing Parties run on a joint ticket, Likud is projected 28 seats and Kahol Lavan 29.
Both major parties are projected to lose some seats to smaller parties, but former Prime Minister Ehud Barak's Democratic Israel, which was seen by some on the left as a potential game-changer, is projected merely four Knesset seats by Channel 12, while Kan says it would not even pass the 3.25-percent electoral threshold.
According to the polls, the Labor Party would earn seven to eight Knesset seats following its recently-announced joint run with Gesher's Orli Levi-Abekasis, one to two seats more than it generated in April's election.
Should the Joint List, a coalition of Arab-majority parties, run on a joint ticket, it would receive 10 to 11 seats, the polls suggest, while Avigdor Lieberman's Yisrael Beiteinu would garner nine to 10 seats.
The ultra-Orthodox United Torah Judaism party is meanwhile projected to receive eight seats, whereas Shas is projected to seven, according to both polls.
Left-wing Meretz is projected to receive four to five Knesset seats.
The Channel 12 News survey was conducted by the Midgam Institute and IPanel on July 21, 2019, among 502 respondents in a nation-wide, representative sample of the population age 18 and over. Margin of error: 4.4 percent.
The Kan survey was conducted online by the Kantar Institute on July 21, 2019, among 546 out of a pool of 1,635 respondents, representative sample of the population age 18 and over. Margin of error: 4.3 percent.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/elections/polls-joint-run-of-israeli-right-wing-parties-generates-12-13-knesset-seats-1.7546786
She could be a power broker, but not prime minister.
Netanyahu might lose this coming election. When I think of Israel, I think of him.
FINAL POLLS PREDICT A SECOND STALEMATE
Likud to remain largest party.
Both the Likud Party and Gantz's Blue and White Party could get an equal amount of seats – 32 each – a poll on Channel 13 published on Friday night predicted.
The results show us that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's bloc has 58 seats, while the Left-Center bloc receives 53 seats – with Avigdor Liberman's Yisrael Beytenu Party being the deciding factor with nine seats. The poll also showed that among those asked, 46% believe that Netanyahu is the best candidate for prime minister, while 31% believe Gantz to be the better candidate. Some 14% believe neither of them are a good fit for the role.
A Smith Research poll, however, found on Thursday that Netanyahu's Likud will be the largest in Tuesday's election – by one seat.
The poll of 650 respondents – representing a statistical sample of the Israeli population – predicted 33 seats for Likud, 32 for Blue and White, 12 for the Joint List, nine for Yamina, eight for Yisrael Beytenu, eight for Shas, seven for UTJ, six for the Democratic Union and five for Labor-Gesher.
Pollster Rafi Smith said his final polls indicate that Likud and Blue and White are getting stronger at the expense of their satellite parties in their political blocs. He said he expected the Joint List to do better than polls indicate due to higher Arab turnout.
Yisrael Beytenu has been falling in the polls in recent weeks, losing support to both Likud and to Blue and White, which adopted Yisrael Beytenu's call for a secular unity government.
The Right-Center bloc won 57 seats in the poll and the Center-Left bloc 55. Liberman has hinted that he would recommend Blue and White leader Benny Gantz to form the government, which could put Gantz over the top if the Joint List also recommends him
https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Polls-predict-a-second-stalemate-601577
I voted for Yisrael Beytenu, but Lieberman would be making a big mistake by propping up a Blue and White government.
Go Likud.
So has it been determined yet?
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So has it been determined yet?
Voting is still under way.
It is not looking good for Netanyahu's Likud party.
This is too close to call.
Very interesting results..
I look forward to reading Gaon's thoughts on this.
He must be in trouble. If he cannot win TWO elections in less than a year, it is clear he has lost the confidence of the people.
Well, same could be said for opponents I guess
Anyhow, one never gets a majority in Israel
If I recall correctly, over 20 years ago, 2 parties got together and leaders took turns being PM ... I think Perez was one of them
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He must be in trouble. If he cannot win TWO elections in less than a year, it is clear he has lost the confidence of the people.
He lost the confidence of one of his coalition partners. He has secular Russian parties and ultra orthodox parties in his coalition. Frickin hard to get them all on the same page.
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Very interesting results..
I look forward to reading Gaon's thoughts on this.
I'm interested as well.
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Very interesting results..
I look forward to reading Gaon's thoughts on this.
I'm interested as well.
Me too APC.
ac_smile

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According to Channel 12, 95% of the votes from Tuesday's elections have already been counted, Blue and White stands at 33 seats and Likud at 32 seats, with Blue and White leading by a narrow margin. It is important to note that these are still not the final results.
Overnight, the committee was counting the near quarter of a million soldiers' votes cast by Israeli soldiers.
The Central Election Committee (CEC) has been updating its website throughout the day. The last update, however, was at 04:49 a.m.: 4,030,843 votes had been counted – almost 95% of the ballots cast.
The current official results according to the CEC (with mandates/seats according to Channel 12):
Blue and White: 25.66% (33)
Likud: 25.03% (32)
The Joint List: 10.73% (12)
Shas: 7.57% (9)
Yisrael Beytenu: 7.12% (8)
UTJ: 6.23% (8)
Yemina: 5.72% (7)
Labor-Gesher: 4.81% (6)
Democratic Union: 4.30% (5)
Otzma Yehudit: 1.87% (did not pass the electoral threshold of 3.25%)
Based on these results, without Yisrael Beytenu's eight mandates, the Center-Left bloc would have counted on 56 seats and the Center-Right bloc 56.
https://www.jpost.com/Israel-Elections/Israel-elections-results-based-on-counted-ballots-12-am-602045
It will be up to my leader, Avigdor Lieberman if Mr Gantz or Mr Netanyahu get to form government.
Who do you want?
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Who do you want?
I am a right winger, so I want the Likud coalition. But, I am a Russian secularist and I would like to see Yisrael Beytanu in the right wing coalition. But, the haredim parties will not compromise with right wing secularists. So, we could be stuck with Blue and White and their leftist partners.
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Quote from: "ArabPrinCess"
Who do you want?
I am a right winger, so I want the Likud coalition. But, I am a Russian secularist and I would like to see Yisrael Beytanu in the right wing coalition. But, the haredim parties will not compromise with right wing secularists. So, we could be stuck with Blue and White and their leftist partners.
Netanyahu has cancelled a trip to the UN and a meeting with Trump. It aint looking good for him. Benny Gantz could form a coalition with Arab parties.
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Quote from: "Gaon"
Quote from: "ArabPrinCess"
Who do you want?
I am a right winger, so I want the Likud coalition. But, I am a Russian secularist and I would like to see Yisrael Beytanu in the right wing coalition. But, the haredim parties will not compromise with right wing secularists. So, we could be stuck with Blue and White and their leftist partners.
Netanyahu has cancelled a trip to the UN and a meeting with Trump. It aint looking good for him. Benny Gantz could form a coalition with Arab parties.
About time...just sayin...
Quote from: "ArabPrinCess"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Gaon"
Quote from: "ArabPrinCess"
Who do you want?
I am a right winger, so I want the Likud coalition. But, I am a Russian secularist and I would like to see Yisrael Beytanu in the right wing coalition. But, the haredim parties will not compromise with right wing secularists. So, we could be stuck with Blue and White and their leftist partners.
Netanyahu has cancelled a trip to the UN and a meeting with Trump. It aint looking good for him. Benny Gantz could form a coalition with Arab parties.
About time...just sayin...
My understanding is the Arab parties in Israel are quite left wing meaning the economic reforms Netanyahu initiated could be in jeopardy.
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "ArabPrinCess"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Gaon"
Quote from: "ArabPrinCess"
Who do you want?
I am a right winger, so I want the Likud coalition. But, I am a Russian secularist and I would like to see Yisrael Beytanu in the right wing coalition. But, the haredim parties will not compromise with right wing secularists. So, we could be stuck with Blue and White and their leftist partners.
Netanyahu has cancelled a trip to the UN and a meeting with Trump. It aint looking good for him. Benny Gantz could form a coalition with Arab parties.
About time...just sayin...
My understanding is the Arab parties in Israel are quite left wing meaning the economic reforms Netanyahu initiated could be in jeopardy.
They do not care about that. The Arab parties are really islamist parties.
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Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Gaon"
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Who do you want?
I am a right winger, so I want the Likud coalition. But, I am a Russian secularist and I would like to see Yisrael Beytanu in the right wing coalition. But, the haredim parties will not compromise with right wing secularists. So, we could be stuck with Blue and White and their leftist partners.
Netanyahu has cancelled a trip to the UN and a meeting with Trump. It aint looking good for him. Benny Gantz could form a coalition with Arab parties.
About time...just sayin...
My understanding is the Arab parties in Israel are quite left wing meaning the economic reforms Netanyahu initiated could be in jeopardy.
That's what it's looking like. He is also facing charges as well. I'm
Right wing but I'm not a fan of his.
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Who do you want?
I am a right winger, so I want the Likud coalition. But, I am a Russian secularist and I would like to see Yisrael Beytanu in the right wing coalition. But, the haredim parties will not compromise with right wing secularists. So, we could be stuck with Blue and White and their leftist partners.
Netanyahu has cancelled a trip to the UN and a meeting with Trump. It aint looking good for him. Benny Gantz could form a coalition with Arab parties.
About time...just sayin...
My understanding is the Arab parties in Israel are quite left wing meaning the economic reforms Netanyahu initiated could be in jeopardy.
That's what it's looking like. He is also facing charges as well. I'm
Right wing but I'm not a fan of his.
Those so called charges are political in nature just like the impeachment push against the Trump by House democRATs. Bibi aint going to jail.
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Who do you want?
I am a right winger, so I want the Likud coalition. But, I am a Russian secularist and I would like to see Yisrael Beytanu in the right wing coalition. But, the haredim parties will not compromise with right wing secularists. So, we could be stuck with Blue and White and their leftist partners.
Netanyahu has cancelled a trip to the UN and a meeting with Trump. It aint looking good for him. Benny Gantz could form a coalition with Arab parties.
About time...just sayin...
My understanding is the Arab parties in Israel are quite left wing meaning the economic reforms Netanyahu initiated could be in jeopardy.
That's what it's looking like. He is also facing charges as well. I'm
Right wing but I'm not a fan of his.
Those so called charges are political in nature just like the impeachment push against the Trump by House democRATs. Bibi aint going to jail.
True, but did he win or not? Israel times says he did. I don't know. But I think these charges are different and it's coming from the prosecutor. It's not dems made up scheme bullshit but what do I know. Looks more serious to me.
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Who do you want?
I am a right winger, so I want the Likud coalition. But, I am a Russian secularist and I would like to see Yisrael Beytanu in the right wing coalition. But, the haredim parties will not compromise with right wing secularists. So, we could be stuck with Blue and White and their leftist partners.
Netanyahu has cancelled a trip to the UN and a meeting with Trump. It aint looking good for him. Benny Gantz could form a coalition with Arab parties.
About time...just sayin...
My understanding is the Arab parties in Israel are quite left wing meaning the economic reforms Netanyahu initiated could be in jeopardy.
That's what it's looking like. He is also facing charges as well. I'm
Right wing but I'm not a fan of his.
Those so called charges are political in nature just like the impeachment push against the Trump by House democRATs. Bibi aint going to jail.
True, but did he win or not? Israel times says he did. I don't know. But I think these charges are different and it's coming from the prosecutor. It's not dems made up scheme bullshit but what do I know. Looks more serious to me.
Isn't it something about his wife accepting a fur coat. Our pm would be in jail in Israel for all the gifts he accepts or rather asks for.
Netanyahu's bloc, comprised of right-wing and ultra-Orthodox parties that have agreed to negotiate together, currently stands at 55 seats. The center-left bloc has 57 seats. Avigdor Lieberman's Yisrael Beiteinu, who, with eight seats, has been confirmed as the election's kingmaker. We will know in a couple of days who he will make prime minister.
Hmmmm. Interesting. Thank you!
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Netanyahu's bloc, comprised of right-wing and ultra-Orthodox parties that have agreed to negotiate together, currently stands at 55 seats. The center-left bloc has 57 seats. Avigdor Lieberman's Yisrael Beiteinu, who, with eight seats, has been confirmed as the election's kingmaker. We will know in a couple of days who he will make prime minister.
I see the religious parties are willing to compromise with Lieberman now. That guy is a frickin shrewd politician.
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Netanyahu's bloc, comprised of right-wing and ultra-Orthodox parties that have agreed to negotiate together, currently stands at 55 seats. The center-left bloc has 57 seats. Avigdor Lieberman's Yisrael Beiteinu, who, with eight seats, has been confirmed as the election's kingmaker. We will know in a couple of days who he will make prime minister.
I see the religious parties are willing to compromise with Lieberman now. That guy is a frickin shrewd politician.
Is he? I need to read up on him. I may be eating my words. Just pray my family is safe they are Christian surrounded by Muslims in the West Bank. Scary thought.
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Netanyahu's bloc, comprised of right-wing and ultra-Orthodox parties that have agreed to negotiate together, currently stands at 55 seats. The center-left bloc has 57 seats. Avigdor Lieberman's Yisrael Beiteinu, who, with eight seats, has been confirmed as the election's kingmaker. We will know in a couple of days who he will make prime minister.
I see the religious parties are willing to compromise with Lieberman now. That guy is a frickin shrewd politician.
Is he? I need to read up on him. I may be eating my words. Just pray my family is safe they are Christian surrounded by Muslims in the West Bank. Scary thought.
Old Gaon is the expert, but I have been to Israel. Lieberman is popular among the Russian diaspora in Israel. They aint very religious which pisses off the rabbis.
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Netanyahu's bloc, comprised of right-wing and ultra-Orthodox parties that have agreed to negotiate together, currently stands at 55 seats. The center-left bloc has 57 seats. Avigdor Lieberman's Yisrael Beiteinu, who, with eight seats, has been confirmed as the election's kingmaker. We will know in a couple of days who he will make prime minister.
I see the religious parties are willing to compromise with Lieberman now. That guy is a frickin shrewd politician.
Is he? I need to read up on him. I may be eating my words. Just pray my family is safe they are Christian surrounded by Muslims in the West Bank. Scary thought.
I am surprised they have nor emigrated to avoid being cleansed.
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Netanyahu's bloc, comprised of right-wing and ultra-Orthodox parties that have agreed to negotiate together, currently stands at 55 seats. The center-left bloc has 57 seats. Avigdor Lieberman's Yisrael Beiteinu, who, with eight seats, has been confirmed as the election's kingmaker. We will know in a couple of days who he will make prime minister.
I see the religious parties are willing to compromise with Lieberman now. That guy is a frickin shrewd politician.
Is he? I need to read up on him. I may be eating my words. Just pray my family is safe they are Christian surrounded by Muslims in the West Bank. Scary thought.
Old Gaon is the expert, but I have been to Israel. Lieberman is popular among the Russian diaspora in Israel. They aint very religious which pisses off the rabbis.
Russian Israelis tend to be right wing, but secular.
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Netanyahu's bloc, comprised of right-wing and ultra-Orthodox parties that have agreed to negotiate together, currently stands at 55 seats. The center-left bloc has 57 seats. Avigdor Lieberman's Yisrael Beiteinu, who, with eight seats, has been confirmed as the election's kingmaker. We will know in a couple of days who he will make prime minister.
I see the religious parties are willing to compromise with Lieberman now. That guy is a frickin shrewd politician.
Is he? I need to read up on him. I may be eating my words. Just pray my family is safe they are Christian surrounded by Muslims in the West Bank. Scary thought.
I am surprised they have nor emigrated to avoid being cleansed.
That's their country too. It's all they know. Hard to move away for some of them. We have land there and I told them to sell and get out. Now my father is here, he sold. The Jews really don't bother them. I have a good Israeli friend over there. He is up with the security there, thankful for him. But what you just said raises the red flag. We aren't in Gaza though.
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Netanyahu's bloc, comprised of right-wing and ultra-Orthodox parties that have agreed to negotiate together, currently stands at 55 seats. The center-left bloc has 57 seats. Avigdor Lieberman's Yisrael Beiteinu, who, with eight seats, has been confirmed as the election's kingmaker. We will know in a couple of days who he will make prime minister.
I see the religious parties are willing to compromise with Lieberman now. That guy is a frickin shrewd politician.
Is he? I need to read up on him. I may be eating my words. Just pray my family is safe they are Christian surrounded by Muslims in the West Bank. Scary thought.
Old Gaon is the expert, but I have been to Israel. Lieberman is popular among the Russian diaspora in Israel. They aint very religious which pisses off the rabbis.
Well...that wall is religious and I'm sure they want someone religious in there protecting it. I don't know. Not looking good. I take it back.
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Netanyahu's bloc, comprised of right-wing and ultra-Orthodox parties that have agreed to negotiate together, currently stands at 55 seats. The center-left bloc has 57 seats. Avigdor Lieberman's Yisrael Beiteinu, who, with eight seats, has been confirmed as the election's kingmaker. We will know in a couple of days who he will make prime minister.
I see the religious parties are willing to compromise with Lieberman now. That guy is a frickin shrewd politician.
Is he? I need to read up on him. I may be eating my words. Just pray my family is safe they are Christian surrounded by Muslims in the West Bank. Scary thought.
Old Gaon is the expert, but I have been to Israel. Lieberman is popular among the Russian diaspora in Israel. They aint very religious which pisses off the rabbis.
Well...that wall is religious and I'm sure they want someone religious in there protecting it. I don't know. Not looking good. I take it back.
If you mean the Western Wall, it is a historic national monument. If you mean one of Israel's three border barriers, they are not religious either.
From what I have read about Netanyahu and from what old Gaon says, Netanyahu aint religious at all. I read he is a serial adulterer.
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Netanyahu's bloc, comprised of right-wing and ultra-Orthodox parties that have agreed to negotiate together, currently stands at 55 seats. The center-left bloc has 57 seats. Avigdor Lieberman's Yisrael Beiteinu, who, with eight seats, has been confirmed as the election's kingmaker. We will know in a couple of days who he will make prime minister.
I see the religious parties are willing to compromise with Lieberman now. That guy is a frickin shrewd politician.
Is he? I need to read up on him. I may be eating my words. Just pray my family is safe they are Christian surrounded by Muslims in the West Bank. Scary thought.
Old Gaon is the expert, but I have been to Israel. Lieberman is popular among the Russian diaspora in Israel. They aint very religious which pisses off the rabbis.
Well...that wall is religious and I'm sure they want someone religious in there protecting it. I don't know. Not looking good. I take it back.
If you mean the Western Wall, it is a historic national monument. If you mean one of Israel's three border barriers, they are not religious either.
From what I have read about Netanyahu and from what old Gaon says, Netanyahu aint religious at all. I read he is a serial adulterer.
I meaning the border barriers and the holy ground in all. I think he is other things as well.
I was there recently and it seemed safe. I just want my family safe Herman. It frightens me.
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Netanyahu's bloc, comprised of right-wing and ultra-Orthodox parties that have agreed to negotiate together, currently stands at 55 seats. The center-left bloc has 57 seats. Avigdor Lieberman's Yisrael Beiteinu, who, with eight seats, has been confirmed as the election's kingmaker. We will know in a couple of days who he will make prime minister.
I see the religious parties are willing to compromise with Lieberman now. That guy is a frickin shrewd politician.
Is he? I need to read up on him. I may be eating my words. Just pray my family is safe they are Christian surrounded by Muslims in the West Bank. Scary thought.
Old Gaon is the expert, but I have been to Israel. Lieberman is popular among the Russian diaspora in Israel. They aint very religious which pisses off the rabbis.
Well...that wall is religious and I'm sure they want someone religious in there protecting it. I don't know. Not looking good. I take it back.
If you mean the Western Wall, it is a historic national monument. If you mean one of Israel's three border barriers, they are not religious either.
From what I have read about Netanyahu and from what old Gaon says, Netanyahu aint religious at all. I read he is a serial adulterer.
I meaning the border barriers and the holy ground in all. I think he is other things as well.
I was there recently and it seemed safe. I just want my family safe Herman. It frightens me.
Not sure why that posted twice.
And I'm sorry there aren't many non adulterous men in power these Days. Religious or not.
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Netanyahu's bloc, comprised of right-wing and ultra-Orthodox parties that have agreed to negotiate together, currently stands at 55 seats. The center-left bloc has 57 seats. Avigdor Lieberman's Yisrael Beiteinu, who, with eight seats, has been confirmed as the election's kingmaker. We will know in a couple of days who he will make prime minister.
I see the religious parties are willing to compromise with Lieberman now. That guy is a frickin shrewd politician.
Is he? I need to read up on him. I may be eating my words. Just pray my family is safe they are Christian surrounded by Muslims in the West Bank. Scary thought.
Old Gaon is the expert, but I have been to Israel. Lieberman is popular among the Russian diaspora in Israel. They aint very religious which pisses off the rabbis.
Well...that wall is religious and I'm sure they want someone religious in there protecting it. I don't know. Not looking good. I take it back.
If you mean the Western Wall, it is a historic national monument. If you mean one of Israel's three border barriers, they are not religious either.
From what I have read about Netanyahu and from what old Gaon says, Netanyahu aint religious at all. I read he is a serial adulterer.
I meaning the border barriers and the holy ground in all. I think he is other things as well.
I was there recently and it seemed safe. I just want my family safe Herman. It frightens me.
The West Bank barrier, the Israel-Gaza barrier or the Israel-Egypt barrier? They are all there for security purposes and serve no religious purpose at all.
And Netanyahu is not religious. He is a right wing nationalist. He has religious parties in his coalition. They do not like each other, but they need each other.
Unless Avigdor Lieberman has a change of heart, it looks like the centre left coalition will end the Netanyahu era.
The Arab parties recommendation to President Reuven Rivlin to give Gantz first crack at forming a new government, however, wasn't a simply symbolic gesture. It added the Joint List's 13 members of Knesset to Gantz's existing 44 (Kahol Lavan + Labor + Democratic Union), giving the center-left candidate 57 endorsers, two more than Benjamin Netanyahu's 55. Given that Kahol Lavan also emerged from last Tuesday's election as the biggest party, the Joint List's endorsement virtually guarantees that Gantz gets first dibs on forming a new government.
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Unless Avigdor Lieberman has a change of heart, it looks like the centre left coalition will end the Netanyahu era.
The Arab parties recommendation to President Reuven Rivlin to give Gantz first crack at forming a new government, however, wasn't a simply symbolic gesture. It added the Joint List's 13 members of Knesset to Gantz's existing 44 (Kahol Lavan + Labor + Democratic Union), giving the center-left candidate 57 endorsers, two more than Benjamin Netanyahu's 55. Given that Kahol Lavan also emerged from last Tuesday's election as the biggest party, the Joint List's endorsement virtually guarantees that Gantz gets first dibs on forming a new government.
Fuck, that is disappointing. Netanyahu is the best pm Israel has ever had by a country mile.
Israel without Netanyahu as pm. That will take some getting used to.
President Reuven Rivlin of Israel tapped Benjamin Netanyahu to form the next government, giving the prime minister a lifeline.
Netanyahu has the first chance to form a government, it is far from certain he will pull it off in the up to six weeks he has to do so. He couldn't secure the support of at least 61 members of the 120-member Knesset to govern after winning an election in April. To be successful this time around, he will need to win over at least one of several parties that promised not to join his government.
The right wing block won fewer seats, but Netanyahu gets first chance to form a government??
Because he was (or may even still be considered) PM?
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The right wing block won fewer seats, but Netanyahu gets first chance to form a government??
It's based on a vote among Knesset members.
Liberman agrees to speed up talks for minority government
Avigdor Liberman of the Israel Beiteinu party has agreed to accelerate negotiations to establish a minority government, one what would rest on the Arab vote, Israel Hayom reports on Sunday.
The Blue and White party confirmed on Saturday night that talks are advancing to establish such a government, Israel Hayom reports.
It is a major about-face for Liberman, who has called the Arab Joint List a "5th column" and has said he won't sit in a government that relies on them.
The Arab List, for its part, has expressed its reluctance to sit with Liberman, whom they've called a racist.
https://worldisraelnews.com/liberman-agrees-to-speed-up-talks-for-minority-government/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=push_notification&utm_campaign=vwo_notification_1573976517&vwo_powered=1
I am really disappointed in Liberman for even considering supporting a coalition with Arab parties.
Netanyahu: Israeli government based on Arab parties would be historic disaster
Israeli politicians on the right side of the political spectrum responded with concern to news on Sunday that a minority government may be established. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called an emergency meeting for Sunday morning with his coalition members to discuss their next steps.
Former Justice Minister Ayelet Shaked warned, "Everything has to be done to create a Zionist government, in no way a minority government that supports and rests on the Joint List."
The Minister of Culture and Sports, Miri Regev, was still harsher in her criticism.
"I am very upset and troubled for the people of Israel by the fact that three chiefs of staff and two defense ministers are selling the state to terror supporters and terrorists such as Ahmed Tibi and Ayman Odeh," Regev said, referring to two members of the Arab Joint List, Arutz7 reports.
Once they decided to go to a minority government, they spit on the bereaved families, spit on the IDF soldiers and IDF commanders. I remind them that Ahmed Tibi and Ayman Odeh once called former IDF chiefs of staff war criminals and today also call IDF soldiers war criminals," she said.
On Saturday, Netanyahu held a conference call with Likud ministers to talk about the possibility that Blue and White Chairman Benny Gantz would be prepared to establish a minority government.
Netanyahu said that Blue and White had not negotiated with the Likud for more than 10 days, Israel's Channel 13 reported.
"We are facing an emergency like no other in the history of the State of Israel. There is a conclusion in Blue and White to go to a minority government with the Joint List. We know for sure that such a decision was made there," Netanyahu said.
"Election is a disaster, but setting up a government that depends on the Arab parties is a bigger disaster. It is a historic danger and a serious violation of Israel's security, it's forbidden that such a government will rise for even an hour," he said.
https://worldisraelnews.com/netanyahu-israeli-government-based-on-arab-parties-would-be-historic-disaster/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=push_notification&utm_campaign=vwo_notification_1573978819&vwo_powered=1
I can't believe Arab parties could hold the balance of power in the next government. This will be a disaster.
Yes. seems it goes against everything he has always claimed to believe
Even if he pulled it off, he could not govern with his party's established policy ... seems a desperation bid for power to me
Not sure of the numbers, but seems to me a deal with Netanyahu would be the natural path ... and a lot more honest
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Yes. seems it goes against everything he has always claimed to believe
Even if he pulled it off, he could not govern with his party's established policy ... seems a desperation bid for power to me
Not sure of the numbers, but seems to me a deal with Netanyahu would be the natural path ... and a lot more honest
Liberman pulled out of a coalition with Bibi over disagreements with the religious parties that were part of the coalition. And they were legitimate grievances. But, he is putting Israel's security in jeopardy just to teach Netanyahu a lesson. Liberman's base is the Russian community. There is no support for this among Russian immigrants.
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Liberman agrees to speed up talks for minority government
Avigdor Liberman of the Israel Beiteinu party has agreed to accelerate negotiations to establish a minority government, one what would rest on the Arab vote, Israel Hayom reports on Sunday.
The Blue and White party confirmed on Saturday night that talks are advancing to establish such a government, Israel Hayom reports.
It is a major about-face for Liberman, who has called the Arab Joint List a "5th column" and has said he won't sit in a government that relies on them.
The Arab List, for its part, has expressed its reluctance to sit with Liberman, whom they've called a racist.
https://worldisraelnews.com/liberman-agrees-to-speed-up-talks-for-minority-government/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=push_notification&utm_campaign=vwo_notification_1573976517&vwo_powered=1
I am really disappointed in Liberman for even considering supporting a coalition with Arab parties.
RIP Israel if this happens.

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A twist in Israel's election saga.
Netanyahu Indicted on Corruption Charges, Throwing His Future Into Doubt
JERUSALEM — Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was indicted Thursday on bribery, fraud and breach of trust charges in a set of long-running corruption cases, immediately throwing his political future into doubt and heightening the uncertainty and chaos surrounding Israel's fitful, yearlong struggle to choose its next leader.
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/netanyahu-indicted-on-corruption-charges-throwing-his-future-into-doubt/ar-BBX7p2d?li=AAggNb9&ocid=mailsignout
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A twist in Israel's election saga.
Netanyahu Indicted on Corruption Charges, Throwing His Future Into Doubt
JERUSALEM — Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was indicted Thursday on bribery, fraud and breach of trust charges in a set of long-running corruption cases, immediately throwing his political future into doubt and heightening the uncertainty and chaos surrounding Israel's fitful, yearlong struggle to choose its next leader.
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/netanyahu-indicted-on-corruption-charges-throwing-his-future-into-doubt/ar-BBX7p2d?li=AAggNb9&ocid=mailsignout
Will he have to resign?
Apparently Netanyahu does not need to resign, but it sure weakens his position as Israel looks for a coalition government in order to avoid a third election this year.
Gantz proposes unity gov't rotation if he leads it first
The chief challenger to Israel's embattled Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is proposing to lead a unity government with Netanyahu's Likud party.
On Saturday, Blue and White party leader Benny Gantz proposed a unity government for Israel that he would head for two years, with Netanyahu taking over the following two years — if he is acquitted of corruption charges.
Gantz claimed his plan was the "only way to avoid unnecessary elections that no one wants."
It was Gantz's first concrete offer to extract Israel from its political impasse since the country's attorney general announced Thursday Netanyahu would be indicted.
Netanyahu currently heads a caretaker government after two inconclusive elections.
Previous efforts at a power-sharing agreement between the two largest parties failed. Netanyahu has vowed to remain in office.
https://worldisraelnews.com/gantz-proposes-unity-government-rotation/
Gantz thinks he has the upper hand since Bibi was indicted.
Aint this special.
https://nypost.com/2019/11/17/democrats-to-israel-go-to-hell/?fbclid=IwAR1Apxfz47j0_Meqm-f2lxTzhwj9AXdOv8kNEK6ikTX3lSAqsC3VZ5NZ-Qk
Democrats to Israel: Go to Hell
Liberman: No option left but another election
Israel Beiteinu chairman Avigdor Liberman said that Israeli citizens will have to head to the polls for a third time in a year as he refuses to enable the formation of a government built on a narrow majority. He blamed the large parties for not coming to an agreement on unity.
According to a Thursday article in Yediot Ahronot, Liberman said that his hints in recent days that he may join a right-wing government were simply a pressure tactic aimed mainly at the Blue and White party to make compromises in negotiations with the Likud.
Saying that he had done everything remotely possible to form a unity government, he laid the responsibility for the failure squarely on the shoulders of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Blue and White head Benny Gantz.
"Unfortunately, both of them made a strategic decision not to go with unity, so the two parties are responsible for another election campaign. On election night, we promised that we'd turn over every stone, that we'd try to exhaust every option and suggest every imaginable initiative. We did this," he said. "We come with clean hands" to the electorate.
Liberman suggested that the reason for the impasse was that each party is "bewitched" by internal polling that shows that they can gain the extra seats they need to form a narrow government if the public goes to the polls once again.
https://worldisraelnews.com/liberman-no-option-left-but-another-election/
Another election :dash1:
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Liberman: No option left but another election
Israel Beiteinu chairman Avigdor Liberman said that Israeli citizens will have to head to the polls for a third time in a year as he refuses to enable the formation of a government built on a narrow majority. He blamed the large parties for not coming to an agreement on unity.
According to a Thursday article in Yediot Ahronot, Liberman said that his hints in recent days that he may join a right-wing government were simply a pressure tactic aimed mainly at the Blue and White party to make compromises in negotiations with the Likud.
Saying that he had done everything remotely possible to form a unity government, he laid the responsibility for the failure squarely on the shoulders of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Blue and White head Benny Gantz.
"Unfortunately, both of them made a strategic decision not to go with unity, so the two parties are responsible for another election campaign. On election night, we promised that we'd turn over every stone, that we'd try to exhaust every option and suggest every imaginable initiative. We did this," he said. "We come with clean hands" to the electorate.
Liberman suggested that the reason for the impasse was that each party is "bewitched" by internal polling that shows that they can gain the extra seats they need to form a narrow government if the public goes to the polls once again.
https://worldisraelnews.com/liberman-no-option-left-but-another-election/
Another election :dash1:
I'd like to see another election here..
On second thought no, I don't.....it won't change anything.
It is nearly certain Israel will have a third election.
Israel headed on Wednesday toward a third national election in less than a year.
Neither Netanyahu's right-wing Likud party nor the centrist Blue and White party led by his main rival won enough seats in the Knesset for a governing majority in the previous two contests.
Both men were delegated the task of forming a coalition, but failed.
After giving its preliminary approval, and barring last-minute progress in deadlocked efforts to form a new government, parliament was set to vote for its dissolution later in the day and approve a March 2 election date already agreed by the two major parties.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/11/with-netanyahus-fate-in-question-israel-poised-for-new-election.html
I doubt Netanyahu will lead Likud into another election.
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Israel headed on Wednesday toward a third national election in less than a year.
Neither Netanyahu's right-wing Likud party nor the centrist Blue and White party led by his main rival won enough seats in the Knesset for a governing majority in the previous two contests.
Both men were delegated the task of forming a coalition, but failed.
After giving its preliminary approval, and barring last-minute progress in deadlocked efforts to form a new government, parliament was set to vote for its dissolution later in the day and approve a March 2 election date already agreed by the two major parties.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/11/with-netanyahus-fate-in-question-israel-poised-for-new-election.html
I doubt Netanyahu will lead Likud into another election.
When I think of Israel, I think of Benjamin Netanyahu.
MK Stav Shaffir, leader of the Green Party, announced that she would be running her party separately in the upcoming parliamentary election, breaking off from the Democratic Union.
The left, already in decline, appears in disarray. Shaffir herself said the situation is "like the Titanic," reported Ynet.
She had previously been a member of the Labor Party but left to instead be a part of the Democratic Union bloc, which is lead by the Meretz party and also includes the Israel Democratic Party, headed by former Prime Minister Ehud Barak.
https://worldisraelnews.com/left-wing-bloc-comes-apart-as-meretz-and-stav-shaffir-part-ways/
I am loving watching the left disintegrate.
[size=150]Polls find Netanyahu edging toward 61-seat blocking majority[/size]
Asked who is most fit to be prime minister, 45% said Netanyahu, 36% Blue and White leader Benny Gantz, 13% none of the above and seven percent said they did not know.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is coming closer to obtaining the 61 seats for his right-bloc that he needs to form a right-wing government, polls found on Thursday, four days ahead of Monday's election.
A Direct Polls survey conducted by right-wing pollster Shlomo Filber found that Netanyahu's bloc had 59 seats and his Likud would beat Blue and White 35 seats to 33.
"Two more mandates and we remove Israel from the political quagmire," Netanyahu wrote on Twitter.
https://www.jpost.com/Israel-Elections/Polls-find-Netanyahu-edging-toward-61-seat-blocking-majority-619130
The election is March 2. Go right wing coalition.
Benjamin Netanyahu defeats Gantz, but is still short a majority
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is on track to win 59 seats for his bloc of right-wing and religious parties in Monday's election, down by one from the 60 predicted by the initial exit polls. The new prediction leaves him two short of a majority in the Knesset.
Kan News had Likud on 36 seats and Blue and White on 33, with the right bloc holding a total of 59.
The numbers are expected to change overnight. The votes of soldiers, who tend to lean to the right, have not yet been counted and the Joint List tends to go down a seat when the soldiers' votes are added. But, if the Right does not obtain its 61st seat, it could end up being because the far-right Otzma Yehudit refused Netanyahu's repeated requests to quit the race.
https://www.jpost.com/Israel-Elections/Benjamin-Netanyahus-Right-bloc-wins-majority-exit-polls-619513

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Israeli election results in real time - 99.5% of polling stations counted
Final results must only be published next Monday.
Among the votes that have already been counted, Netanyahu's Likud won 35 seats, which together with Shas's 10, United Torah Judaism's seven and Yamina's six would be 59 – two seats short of the 61 MKs needed for a majority.
Blue and White had 32 seats, according to the preliminary vote count, the Joint List 16, Labor-Gesher-Meretz seven and Yisrael Beytenu seven.
According to results from some 99% of the regular polling stations, the parties would receive the following number of seats, pending vote sharing agreements and application of the Bader-Ofer surplus vote allocation system:
The Right-religious bloc has 59 seats (Likud, Shas, UTJ and Yamina)
The Center-Left bloc has 39 seats (Blue and White and Labor-Gesher-Meretz)
The Joint List has 15 seats
Yisrael Beytenu has 7 seats
https://www.jpost.com/Israel-Elections/Israeli-elections-CEC-announces-first-results-619541
We will know the final results Sunday or Monday.
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Israeli election results in real time - 99.5% of polling stations counted
Final results must only be published next Monday.
Among the votes that have already been counted, Netanyahu's Likud won 35 seats, which together with Shas's 10, United Torah Judaism's seven and Yamina's six would be 59 – two seats short of the 61 MKs needed for a majority.
Blue and White had 32 seats, according to the preliminary vote count, the Joint List 16, Labor-Gesher-Meretz seven and Yisrael Beytenu seven.
According to results from some 99% of the regular polling stations, the parties would receive the following number of seats, pending vote sharing agreements and application of the Bader-Ofer surplus vote allocation system:
The Right-religious bloc has 59 seats (Likud, Shas, UTJ and Yamina)
The Center-Left bloc has 39 seats (Blue and White and Labor-Gesher-Meretz)
The Joint List has 15 seats
Yisrael Beytenu has 7 seats
https://www.jpost.com/Israel-Elections/Israeli-elections-CEC-announces-first-results-619541
We will know the final results Sunday or Monday.
The results are not that much different from the last three elections.
Three short of majority, Netanyahu says he won election, is 'not going anywhere'
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Saturday evening held an "emergency gathering" in which he accused his rivals in the Blue and White and Yisrael Beytenu parties of attempting to "steal the elections through deceit and anti-democratic legislation."
Resisting calls to resign after failing to secure a majority for his right-wing bloc in a third straight election on Monday, a defiant Netanyahu said: "I'm not going anywhere."
Gantz soon after gave a statement to the press as well, declaring "the Netanyahu era is over." He said he would do "everything possible" to avert a fourth rapid-fire election.
The premier and his partners received 58 seats together in Israel's latest elections on Monday, three short of a majority.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/three-short-of-majority-netanyahu-says-he-won-election-not-going-anywhere/
I am pissed off that my party, Yisrael Beytenu will make Benny Gantz prime minister. He will pander to the Arab Joint List.
May I ask what you mean by "pander to Arab joint list"?
I just heard news from my family that the virus is in the West Bank Bethlehem and now Ramallah. Our federation had a trip planned and it's now cancelled. My father was looking forward to it. I heard they are shutting the borders too. They say it started with a Chinese church group came through. Have you heard anything else?
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May I ask what you mean by "pander to Arab joint list"?
I just heard news from my family that the virus is in the West Bank Bethlehem and now Ramallah. Our federation had a trip planned and it's now cancelled. My father was looking forward to it. I heard they are shutting the borders too. They say it started with a Chinese church group came through. Have you heard anything else?
Jesus H kid, I am sorry about that.
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May I ask what you mean by "pander to Arab joint list"?
I just heard news from my family that the virus is in the West Bank Bethlehem and now Ramallah. Our federation had a trip planned and it's now cancelled. My father was looking forward to it. I heard they are shutting the borders too. They say it started with a Chinese church group came through. Have you heard anything else?
Jesus H kid, I am sorry about that.
It's scary stuff. Thank you. We just have to pray.
It lives on hard surfaces. They are now disinfecting the mosques. I hope they go in the christian churches in the West Bank.
i vote to nuke them all
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i vote to nuke them all
Some yes but not all. I still have my precious family there and we are not muslim.
pfft
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i vote to nuke them all
If your nuking skills are as good as your raiding skills, Israelis and Palestinians can sleep soundly.
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If your nuking skills are as good as your raiding skills, Israelis and Palestinians can sleep soundly.
i am sorry herman that your upset that your herpes have flared up ,no need to take your anger out on me .i didn't make you suck male cocks ,that was your choice ,deal with it .ps i love being a shit poster ha ha ha ha ha
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They are now disinfecting the mosques
That will never work. The next kranny reading will reinfect them
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i vote to nuke them all
If your nuking skills are as good as your raiding skills, Israelis and Palestinians can sleep soundly.
i am sorry herman that your upset that your herpes have flared up ,no need to take your anger out on me .i didn't make you suck male cocks ,that was your choice ,deal with it .ps i love being a shit poster ha ha ha ha ha
Who is the retard and why is it shitting up our threads.
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i vote to nuke them all
If your nuking skills are as good as your raiding skills, Israelis and Palestinians can sleep soundly.
i am sorry herman that your upset that your herpes have flared up ,no need to take your anger out on me .i didn't make you suck male cocks ,that was your choice ,deal with it .ps i love being a shit poster ha ha ha ha ha
Who is the retard and why is it shitting up our threads.
We are being raided. ac_toofunny
No majority again in Israel's third election in one year.
what happen did this place die scense i was last here lol
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No majority again in Israel's third election in one year.
I forgot about Israel's election. Sometimes I forget there is an American election this year.
Gaon, I read today that Israel will hold another election.
The government collapsed triggering a fourth election in a bit more than a year. I knew the partnership between Gantz and Bibi would not last.
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The government collapsed triggering a fourth election in a bit more than a year. I knew the partnership between Gantz and Bibi would not last.
Jesus H. The right in Israel can build a coalition, that's for sure. It's holding it together the right wing parties have trouble with.
Israel is holding another election on March 23. This will be the fourth election in two years.
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Israel is holding another election on March 23. This will be the fourth election in two years.
Oh my goodness, Israelis must have sore fingers from marking X's on ballots.
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Israel is holding another election on March 23. This will be the fourth election in two years.
Oh my goodness, Israelis must have sore fingers from marking X's on ballots.
There is election fatigue, especially now due to the Wuhan coronavirus. There is also frustration that coalition partners cannot put aside their petty differences at least until the pandemic is behind us.
Bejamin Netanyahu is no longer the prime minister of Israel. After 12 years at the helm of America's closest ally in the Middle East, Netanyahu will become the parliament's opposition leader as head of the Likud party. He'll be replaced as prime minister by Naftali Bennett of the New Right party.
Let's see how this works out or how it finally was achieved. Last week it was mentioned that the far right was attempting to ally with arabs (polar opposites) :confused1:
With whom did it ally in the end to form a majority?
This is the first time an Arab-led party has joined forces in a governing coalition with Israel's right-wing.
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Bejamin Netanyahu is no longer the prime minister of Israel. After 12 years at the helm of America's closest ally in the Middle East, Netanyahu will become the parliament's opposition leader as head of the Likud party. He'll be replaced as prime minister by Naftali Bennett of the New Right party.
I missed this.
:ohmy:
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This is the first time an Arab-led party has joined forces in a governing coalition with Israel's right-wing.
That should work out well :wink:
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This is the first time an Arab-led party has joined forces in a governing coalition with Israel's right-wing.
That should work out well :wink:
I could see Netanyahu returning as prime minister soon.
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This is the first time an Arab-led party has joined forces in a governing coalition with Israel's right-wing.
That should work out well :wink:
I could see Netanyahu returning as prime minister soon.
Yes. That is what I was getting at & agree with
We may be proven wrong, but I can't see how such diametrically opposite perceptions can agree on vital matters that they strongly disagree on
It seems they just wanted anybody, but Netanyahu to lead the coalition.
Benjamin Netanyahu pledged he would soon return to power. I believe him.
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It seems they just wanted anybody, but Netanyahu to lead the coalition.
"They" being opposition parties .. the public may be a different matter - as of course will keeping such diametrically opposite parties together will likely fail apart
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Benjamin Netanyahu pledged he would soon return to power. I believe him.
Absolutely .. as per reason mentioned above
The lead part is to the right of a tough BiBi .. the other part is arab .... sounds ludicrous to me .. to the point of being a total farce
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Benjamin Netanyahu pledged he would soon return to power. I believe him.
If he does, he will gone again. The corruption charges can't be ignored.
I don't understand why those were not dealt with long ago .. like immediately for a PM
Is there any meat, or are they just threatening to in attempt to harm him politically?
I ask as I know little about them other than that has been around quite a while
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I don't understand why those were not dealt with long ago .. like immediately for a PM
Is there any meat, or are they just threatening to in attempt to harm him politically?
I ask as I know little about them other than that has been around quite a while
He couldn't be prosecuted while he was a sitting pm.
Aw. Thanks
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I don't understand why those were not dealt with long ago .. like immediately for a PM
Is there any meat, or are they just threatening to in attempt to harm him politically?
I ask as I know little about them other than that has been around quite a while
He couldn't be prosecuted while he was a sitting pm.
And now he will be?