Tory MP Michael Cooper's sin was that he quoted the following from the Christchurch killer: "Conservatism is corporatism in disguise. I want no part of it ... The nation with the closest political and social values to my own, is the People's Republic of China."
From Sun News Media
Here are the banned words Conservative MP Michael Cooper quoted from accused Christchurch, New Zealand terrorist Brenton Tarrant's manifesto that blew up the Commons justice committee last week: "Conservatism is corporatism in disguise. I want no part of it ... The nation with the closest political and social values to my own, is the People's Republic of China."
Cooper cited those three short sentences from Tarrant's rambling, 74-page manifesto for a reason.
He was responding to a claim by Faisal Khan Suri, president of the Alberta Muslim Public Affairs Council.
In his testimony, Suri linked "conservative commentator," without any qualifications or limitations, to the alt-right, anti-immigrant and anti-muslim groups, mass murderers, and U.S. President Donald Trump.
He suggested these factors contributed to terrorist Alexandre Bissonette's attack on a Quebec City mosque in 2017, in which six Muslims at prayer were shot dead, and to the Christchurch terrorist attack earlier this year, where 51 Muslims in two mosques were murdered.
Angered by Suri's careless linkage of "conservative commentators" to these attacks, Cooper quoted Tarrant's own words in his manifesto, denouncing conservatism and stating he was a fan of communist China.
For quoting Tarrant, Conservative leader Andrew Scheer denounced Cooper and, absurdly, removed him from the justice committee (after Cooper had publicly apologized, or more likely was forced to apologize).
Cooper's only sin was that in his anger over what Suri said, he attacked him personally, which was rude.
But Liberal MPS who control the justice committee routinely disparage witnesses they disagree with.
Recall that this is the same committee which was the kangaroo court where Liberal MPS shamelessly tried and failed to attack the credibility of former attorney-general Jody Wilson-raybould in the Lavscam scandal.
On Tuesday, Liberal and NDP members of the committee, emboldened by Scheer's kneecapping of Cooper and in a bid to further humiliate the Conservatives, unanimously adopted a motion by Liberal MP Randy Boissonnault expunging Cooper's reference to Tarrant's name and what he said from the official record of the committee's proceedings.
This because Tarrant's manifesto is "banned" in New Zealand, which neither applies to Canada nor means that people can't discuss its contents when debating the causes of terrorism.
Conservative MPS, cowed by Scheer's expulsion of Cooper, abstained from voting on the motion, instead of opposing it as they should have.
Because what the Liberal and NDP MPS did to Cooper is what tyrannies do, and what George Orwell warned us against, in his cautionary novel about dictatorial government power run amok, 1984.
In 1984, members of the "Inner Party" retroactively censor official transcripts, expunging, in the name of Big Brother, language the Party deems offensive, or subversive, by sending it down the "memory hole."
Following that, the justice committee cut the video feed of the testimony of Mark Steyn, Lindsay Shepherd and John Robson, invited by the Conservatives, to outline their concerns about re-instating Section 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act governing hate speech. Only the audio feed was made available.
Section 13 was scrapped in 2013 as an attack on free speech under the Harper Conservative government, through a majority vote on a Tory MP'S private member's bill.
It's disturbing that on the 75th anniversary of D-day, when Canadian soldiers stormed Juno Beach to defeat Nazism and its attack on fundamental freedoms, like free speech, our politicians, in all parties, have no idea of what free speech means.
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"Conservatism is corporatism in disguise. I want no part of it ... The nation with the closest political and social values to my own, is the People's Republic of China."
Repeating that has consequences for MP''s.
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It should be an offence for a political party to sanction a member for exercising their right to free speech.
As long as the law is complied with ALL MP's should be free to express their personal opinions without fear of party hacks imposing some form of punishment. That is repression. That is why political parties are a carbuncle on modern civilisation's posterior.
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It should be an offence for a political party to sanction a member for exercising their right to free speech.
As long as the law is complied with ALL MP's should be free to express their personal opinions without fear of party hacks imposing some form of punishment. That is repression. That is why political parties are a carbuncle on modern civilisation's posterior.
It is Orwellian what's happening to Michael Cooper.
And Orwell's rage was against political parties.
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And Orwell's rage was against political parties.
Michael Cooper has done nothing to warrant disciplinary action.
The power and influence of political parties over OUR elected representatives is utterly immoral.
We elect them...not the party. They are answerable to us. Not the party. We pay them. Not the party.
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Tory MP Michael Cooper's sin was that he quoted the following from the Christchurch killer: "Conservatism is corporatism in disguise. I want no part of it ... The nation with the closest political and social values to my own, is the People's Republic of China."
From Sun News Media
Here are the banned words Conservative MP Michael Cooper quoted from accused Christchurch, New Zealand terrorist Brenton Tarrant's manifesto that blew up the Commons justice committee last week: "Conservatism is corporatism in disguise. I want no part of it ... The nation with the closest political and social values to my own, is the People's Republic of China."
Cooper cited those three short sentences from Tarrant's rambling, 74-page manifesto for a reason.
He was responding to a claim by Faisal Khan Suri, president of the Alberta Muslim Public Affairs Council.
In his testimony, Suri linked "conservative commentator," without any qualifications or limitations, to the alt-right, anti-immigrant and anti-muslim groups, mass murderers, and U.S. President Donald Trump.
He suggested these factors contributed to terrorist Alexandre Bissonette's attack on a Quebec City mosque in 2017, in which six Muslims at prayer were shot dead, and to the Christchurch terrorist attack earlier this year, where 51 Muslims in two mosques were murdered.
Angered by Suri's careless linkage of "conservative commentators" to these attacks, Cooper quoted Tarrant's own words in his manifesto, denouncing conservatism and stating he was a fan of communist China.
For quoting Tarrant, Conservative leader Andrew Scheer denounced Cooper and, absurdly, removed him from the justice committee (after Cooper had publicly apologized, or more likely was forced to apologize).
Cooper's only sin was that in his anger over what Suri said, he attacked him personally, which was rude.
But Liberal MPS who control the justice committee routinely disparage witnesses they disagree with.
Recall that this is the same committee which was the kangaroo court where Liberal MPS shamelessly tried and failed to attack the credibility of former attorney-general Jody Wilson-raybould in the Lavscam scandal.
On Tuesday, Liberal and NDP members of the committee, emboldened by Scheer's kneecapping of Cooper and in a bid to further humiliate the Conservatives, unanimously adopted a motion by Liberal MP Randy Boissonnault expunging Cooper's reference to Tarrant's name and what he said from the official record of the committee's proceedings.
This because Tarrant's manifesto is "banned" in New Zealand, which neither applies to Canada nor means that people can't discuss its contents when debating the causes of terrorism.
Conservative MPS, cowed by Scheer's expulsion of Cooper, abstained from voting on the motion, instead of opposing it as they should have.
Because what the Liberal and NDP MPS did to Cooper is what tyrannies do, and what George Orwell warned us against, in his cautionary novel about dictatorial government power run amok, 1984.
In 1984, members of the "Inner Party" retroactively censor official transcripts, expunging, in the name of Big Brother, language the Party deems offensive, or subversive, by sending it down the "memory hole."
Following that, the justice committee cut the video feed of the testimony of Mark Steyn, Lindsay Shepherd and John Robson, invited by the Conservatives, to outline their concerns about re-instating Section 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act governing hate speech. Only the audio feed was made available.
Section 13 was scrapped in 2013 as an attack on free speech under the Harper Conservative government, through a majority vote on a Tory MP'S private member's bill.
It's disturbing that on the 75th anniversary of D-day, when Canadian soldiers stormed Juno Beach to defeat Nazism and its attack on fundamental freedoms, like free speech, our politicians, in all parties, have no idea of what free speech means.
Pure progtardation.
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And Orwell's rage was against political parties.
Michael Cooper has done nothing to warrant disciplinary action.
He sure did not.
This party is not what i want. We really are screwed here in canada
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And Orwell's rage was against political parties.
Michael Cooper has done nothing to warrant disciplinary action.
He sure did not.
This party is not what i want. We really are screwed here in canada
It aint what I want either. But, I will hold my nose and vote for the Tories. There is no political choice in Canada.
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There is no political choice in Canada.
Exactly - Lesser of evils is best we can do
This example above is horrible
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There is no political choice in Canada.
Exactly - Lesser of evils is best we can do
This example above is horrible
There is no socialist option for me, and for people like SB, there is no small government option. Prog money owns all the parties.
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There is no political choice in Canada.
Exactly - Lesser of evils is best we can do
While we endure the current system, it's the best ANY nation can do.
We need a better system. Yesterday.
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There is no political choice in Canada.
Exactly - Lesser of evils is best we can do
While we endure the current system, it's the best ANY nation can do.
We need a better system. Yesterday.
I've pretty much given up on Canadian politics.
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There is no political choice in Canada.
Exactly - Lesser of evils is best we can do
While we endure the current system, it's the best ANY nation can do.
We need a better system. Yesterday.
I don't think Canad's system is the best any nation can do.
By Farzana Hassan
From Sun News Media
We tend to place individuals and ideologies in neat, homogeneous compartments, when shades of grey better convey the reality.
This seems to have happened in the controversy surrounding the tiff between Faisal Khan Suri, president of the Alberta Muslim Public Affairs Council, and Conservative MP Michael Cooper — an exchange which led to the latter's eviction from a Commons committee.
Cooper stated that lumping conservatism with extremist white nationalist factions was objectionable and defamatory. Suri then accused Cooper of insensitivity when Cooper read out passages from Christchurch terrorist Brenton Tarrant's manifesto, which has been banned in New Zealand. Cooper simply wanted to demonstrate that Tarrant claimed to have been influenced by China and that he didn't identify with conservatism.
In effect, Cooper was asserting that white nationalism and conservatism are two separate ideologies. He is right and there is plenty of evidence for this here in Canada.
Andrew Scheer has denounced racist factions by stating that "people know the Conservative Party is open and welcoming... we denounce any elements of society that would promote hate speech." Also, just as mainstream conservatism cannot be pigeonholed with extremist white nationalism, neither can most Muslims be automatically associated with the ideologies of extreme jihadist factions. Conservatives understand this, which is shown by the fact that Maxine Bernier's far-right People's Party has garnered little support.
Admittedly, white nationalists have in the past leaned towards the political right, and this has created the false impression that white supremacists are an outgrowth of legitimate and peaceful conservatism. A stigma attaches to conservative parties because the altright and violent white nationalists have supported them, such as the notion that Ku Klux Klan supporters overwhelmingly leaned Republican in the 2016 US election.
The desire to promote and value the best in what is Western is imperative and therefore commendable, and moderate conservatives see this has no connection with race. What is Western now is far more racially fluid and diverse than what white nationalist extremists perceive. For example, many of us from non-white communities have come to appreciate Canadian values because we have been fully accepted here.
The perception that everything associated with the West is necessarily exclusive to white culture — a notion at the heart of white nationalism — is often anathema to mainstream conservatives. Millions of us have migrated to open and enlightened Western nations from foreign lands with different traditions. We have come to adopt and appreciate the tolerance our adopted nations have created and honed. Contrary to what some may feel, even a significant segment of Canadian Muslims endorse Western values.
The inclusive democracies that the Western world has built are based on principles of pluralism, human dignity and universal human rights. Enlightened campaigners have engineered this type of society, but liberal principles can be appreciated only by those liberal enough to value them. While some migrants from traditional and patriarchal communities have shown little respect for our open societies, the majority of immigrants are well integrated and law-abiding.
Our values are worth preserving but they need to be seen through a non-racial lens that includes many of us from non-white cultures.
The long-term success of moderate conservatism depends on how far our community can abandon the notion that values are narrow and relative, rooted within the culture of a particular racial group.
Michael Cooper was not insensitive to allude to the Christchurch shooter's so-called manifesto. He is right to insist that it is a slur to draw any link between those hateful beliefs and established conservative ideas.

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I am not a conservative, but lumping them with white separatists. :2r4ml1j_th:
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Justine's Canada.
I read this before but didn't comment--so here goes--
This is disgusting progtard shit (and cowardly behavior on the supposed right) on several levels-
1. These attempts to say conservatives are the same as white supremacists are pure propaganda crap. What would the left do if conservatives called every leftist a jihadist terrorist?
2. he was obviously using the manifestos words to show how the New Zealend killer had very little common with conservatives, a perfectly legitimate reason to quote them -- talk about of context.
3. It looks like Scheer pulled a Jeff Flake/ McCain/ Romney move and joined the libtards in throwing this guy under the bus without cause.
Sickening shit all the way around. This is what the left and cowards on the (supposed right) constantly do.
Not just the left's fault--with a lot of help from cowards on the supposed right, The left is destroying our societies and making them more like the Soviet Union/Nazi Germany a little more every day.
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I read this before but didn't comment--so here goes--
This is disgusting progtard shit (and cowardly behavior on the supposed right) on several levels-
1 these attempts to say conservatives are the same as white supremacists are bullshit. What would the left do if conservatives called every leftist a jihadist terrorist?
2. he was obviously using the manifestos words to show how the New Zealend killer had very little common with conservatives, -- talk about of context.
3. It looks like Scheer pulled a Jeff Flake/ McCain/ Romney move and joined the libtards in throwing this guy under the bus without cause.
Sickening shit all the way around. This is what the left and cowards on the (supposed right) constantly do.
The left is destroying our societies and making them more like the USSR/Nazi Germany a little more every day.
If Scheer had any backbone, he would have defended Cooper instead of jumping on the dogpile. Shame on Andrew Scheer.