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Title: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: cc on June 09, 2019, 02:11:00 AM
The Handmaiden's Tale Season 3 is starting tomorrow on Bravo (and soon I guess on demand)



Here it's on Bravo which may mean its already done on a larger outlet?



For the unknowing, it's a tale of a dystopian society ... 1984ish ... religious group took over the US and allowed zero dissent ... kinda like Progs have in mind for us all



Still a few brave independent thinking souls try to get out and / or change it (as one would expect)



Last year we found it On Demand and binged Season 1 & 2 - it was a "WOW"



It reaped record # of awards because it is so well done, so imaginative .. and one has to know inside that it's quite possible that some group could 1984 us all



I highly recommend it



[Dystopia: A futuristic, imagined universe in which oppressive societal control and the illusion of a perfect society are maintained through corporate, bureaucratic, technological, moral, or totalitarian control and 24/7 propaganda]
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: Gaon on June 09, 2019, 10:11:01 AM
Quote from: "cc"The Handmaiden's Tale Season 3 is starting tomorrow on Bravo (and soon I guess on demand)



Here it's on Bravo which may mean its already done on a larger outlet?



For the unknowing, it's a tale of a dystopian society ... 1984ish ... religious group took over the US and allowed zero dissent ... kinda like Progs have in mind for us all



Still a few brave independent thinking souls try to get out and / or change it (as one would expect)



Last year we found it On Demand and binged Season 1 & 2 - it was a "WOW"



It reaped record # of awards because it is so well done, so imaginative .. and one has to know inside that it's quite possible that some group could 1984 us all



I highly recommend it



[Dystopia: A futuristic, imagined universe in which oppressive societal control and the illusion of a perfect society are maintained through corporate, bureaucratic, technological, moral, or totalitarian control and 24/7 propaganda]

Thanks, I will watch it.
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: Wazzzup on June 09, 2019, 10:38:49 AM
Quote from: "cc"The Handmaiden's Tale Season 3 is starting tomorrow on Bravo (and soon I guess on demand)



Here it's on Bravo which may mean its already done on a larger outlet?



For the unknowing, it's a tale of a dystopian society ... 1984ish ... religious group took over the US and allowed zero dissent ... kinda like Progs have in mind for us all



Still a few brave independent thinking souls try to get out and / or change it (as one would expect)



Last year we found it On Demand and binged Season 1 & 2 - it was a "WOW"



It reaped record # of awards because it is so well done, so imaginative .. and one has to know inside that it's quite possible that some group could 1984 us all



I highly recommend it



[Dystopia: A futuristic, imagined universe in which oppressive societal control and the illusion of a perfect society are maintained through corporate, bureaucratic, technological, moral, or totalitarian control and 24/7 propaganda]
ac_drinks cc.  I watched season one and two.  I'll be watching this one too.
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: Gaon on June 09, 2019, 10:44:16 AM
Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "cc"The Handmaiden's Tale Season 3 is starting tomorrow on Bravo (and soon I guess on demand)



Here it's on Bravo which may mean its already done on a larger outlet?



For the unknowing, it's a tale of a dystopian society ... 1984ish ... religious group took over the US and allowed zero dissent ... kinda like Progs have in mind for us all



Still a few brave independent thinking souls try to get out and / or change it (as one would expect)



Last year we found it On Demand and binged Season 1 & 2 - it was a "WOW"



It reaped record # of awards because it is so well done, so imaginative .. and one has to know inside that it's quite possible that some group could 1984 us all



I highly recommend it



[Dystopia: A futuristic, imagined universe in which oppressive societal control and the illusion of a perfect society are maintained through corporate, bureaucratic, technological, moral, or totalitarian control and 24/7 propaganda]
ac_drinks cc.  I watched season one and two.  I'll be watching this one too.

I would like to binge watch the series and get caught up.
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: cc on June 09, 2019, 11:44:54 AM
Good plan. Wise to watch first 2 seasons before viewing current one.



All episodes are continuations of previous - not individual / isolated episodes. Maybe just record current ones for now - not sure how fast they will be On Demand
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: Anonymous on June 09, 2019, 11:55:17 AM
Quote from: "cc"Good plan. Wise to watch first 2 seasons before viewing current one.



All episodes are continuations of previous - not individual / isolated episodes. Maybe just record current ones for now - not sure how fast they will be On Demand

I don't watch many shows in the summer. But, I would like to see this show.
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on June 09, 2019, 12:23:03 PM
I have not seen this and somehow not moved to.
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: Anonymous on June 09, 2019, 02:19:07 PM
Quote from: "cc"The Handmaiden's Tale Season 3 is starting tomorrow on Bravo (and soon I guess on demand)



Here it's on Bravo which may mean its already done on a larger outlet?



For the unknowing, it's a tale of a dystopian society ... 1984ish ... religious group took over the US and allowed zero dissent ... kinda like Progs have in mind for us all



Still a few brave independent thinking souls try to get out and / or change it (as one would expect)



Last year we found it On Demand and binged Season 1 & 2 - it was a "WOW"



It reaped record # of awards because it is so well done, so imaginative .. and one has to know inside that it's quite possible that some group could 1984 us all



I highly recommend it



[Dystopia: A futuristic, imagined universe in which oppressive societal control and the illusion of a perfect society are maintained through corporate, bureaucratic, technological, moral, or totalitarian control and 24/7 propaganda]

I've seen commercials for it.
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: cc on June 10, 2019, 01:43:37 AM
Saw 1st show of new season. Certainly up to previous  highest  standards in the industry



BTW - my error - It's Handmaid's not Handmaiden's
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: Anonymous on June 10, 2019, 03:43:39 AM
Quote from: "cc"Saw 1st show of new season. Certainly up to previous  highest  standards in the industry



BTW - my error - It's Handmaid's not Handmaiden's

I was talking with someone today who recommended the show.
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: Bricktop on June 10, 2019, 07:01:23 PM
I watched the trailer.



It looks horribly like another shot in the feminist gender war.



I'll pass.
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: cc on June 11, 2019, 12:09:05 AM
Trailer trash  :wink:



No, it did not come from that at all. I despise the gender war but it is not about that.



It's about oppression (heavy and harsh oppression) of ALL people on the outside of a 1984 style government and about how a group can take over and impose it's will on everyone ... totally shutting down unwanted speech and actions



I'm merely telling you what it actually "is" about ... and the core premise (albeit not the specifics) is all too real today.



How do I take it? Exactly as I took Orwell's 1984. In fact, I  see it as representative of where we are  heading right now with PC types actually taking over as today's goofball trends continue to metastasize.  I see the level of control in society by those making it happen  and  will not stop unless they are stopped .. and meanwhile  the good guys are doing fuck all about it but whine.



The premise of a group taking over and stiffing speech is very real today ... it's happening more every day That's how I  take the premise and that's where I see  us on the path of right now.



As to the female element of it, one could also take it as the way of the islamic world where a religious group has taken over and  to which  most of the harshness  of that world / society is very very real
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: Bricktop on June 11, 2019, 01:40:21 AM
Many comments and reviews were feminist in nature...either by accident or design. The common complaint is that the protagonists are males, the victims females. A lot of what I saw stated much the same thing; "1984" with a gender bias.



Sounds familiar. Do they wear pussy hats as well?



"1984" was at least gender neutral. In fact the "victim" was a male.



I'll pass.



Trailer trash...hmmpph.



Sexist!!
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: cc on June 11, 2019, 01:51:23 AM
lol



When actually, males not on the inside have been the prime victims  .. if they don't fit in or speak, they die .. women are more desirable & most live



Could be they will twist it to more suit today's "good".  Haven't seen that yet.  We''ll see



But, I'm not finding first 2 season episodes so good though. To me a very bad start
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: Anonymous on June 11, 2019, 02:05:51 AM
Quote from: "cc"lol



When actually, males not on the inside have been the prime victims  .. if they don't fit in or speak, they die .. women are more desirable & most live



Could be they will twist it to more suit today's "good".  Haven't seen that yet.  We''ll see



But, I'm not finding first 2 season episodes so good though. To me a very bad start

I would like to see the first two seasons.
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: cc on June 11, 2019, 02:26:04 AM
Yes. Pretty hard to get the drift of it without seeing those first



I think it was On Demand Crave we saw 1 & 2 (gawd I hate that name "Crave")
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: Anonymous on June 11, 2019, 02:34:03 AM
Quote from: "cc"Yes. Pretty hard to get the drift of it without seeing those first



I think it was On Demand Crave we saw 1 & 2 (gawd I hate that name "Crave")

Maybe we should try it for a month.
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: cc on June 11, 2019, 02:38:01 AM
Let me check to make certain  it was Crave



Update - yes, it's Crave on demand under "Dramas"



And, .. they have already placed 1st 2 of Season 3  there - so it will be there when you get to it
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: Bricktop on June 11, 2019, 02:43:39 AM
Also on Apple TV.
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: Anonymous on June 11, 2019, 03:13:05 AM
Quote from: "cc"Let me check to make certain  it was Crave



Update - yes, it's Crave on demand under "Dramas"



And, .. they have already placed 1st 2 of Season 3  there - so it will be there when you get to it

Like SB, we don't watch many shows in the summer..



But, this is one series I'd like to see.
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: cc on June 11, 2019, 12:55:09 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "cc"Let me check to make certain  it was Crave



Update - yes, it's Crave on demand under "Dramas"



And, .. they have already placed 1st 2 of Season 3  there - so it will be there when you get to it

Like SB, we don't watch many shows in the summer..



But, this is one series I'd like to see.

Be aware that psychotically, it's heavy going .. heavier than the movie  "1984"



at the same time, in a number of possible "root contexts", like 1984 it's entirely possible = intriguing
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: Anonymous on June 11, 2019, 03:48:58 PM
Quote from: "cc"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "cc"Let me check to make certain  it was Crave



Update - yes, it's Crave on demand under "Dramas"



And, .. they have already placed 1st 2 of Season 3  there - so it will be there when you get to it

Like SB, we don't watch many shows in the summer..



But, this is one series I'd like to see.

Be aware that psychotically, it's heavy going .. heavier than the movie  "1984"



at the same time, in a number of possible "root contexts", like 1984 it's entirely possible = intriguing

As long as there is not a lot of violence, I would watch it..



Maybe I'll order Crave in the fall.
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: cc on June 11, 2019, 04:07:04 PM
Some instances of physical violence, but most of the "heavy" I found to be psychological and oppression / subservience



and of course speaking against the regime was a serious no no
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: Anonymous on June 11, 2019, 04:16:33 PM
Quote from: "cc"Some instances of physical violence, but most of the "heavy" I found to be psychological and oppression / subservience



and of course speaking against the regime was a serious no no

I expect that.
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: Anonymous on June 11, 2019, 04:27:22 PM
This thread has me intrigued about the series.
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: cc on June 11, 2019, 04:28:26 PM
After a while I'll let you know if the new season picks up steam and equals previous .. I suspect it will
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: cc on June 11, 2019, 04:30:12 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"This thread has me intrigued about the series.

I strongly suggest watching it only from the beginning forward .. everything is sequential and tied to previous shows



It is an ever evolving story
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: Anonymous on June 11, 2019, 04:49:47 PM
Quote from: "cc"
Quote from: "seoulbro"This thread has me intrigued about the series.

I strongly suggest watching it only from the beginning forward .. everything is sequential and tied to previous shows



It is an ever evolving story

That is how I would do it.
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: Blurt on June 12, 2019, 01:22:53 PM
I might check this out eventually.



I've always enjoyed dystopian fiction. Dystopian realities, not so much.



I don't watch TV, though, so I might stick to reading for the time being.



Dystopias I've read (and, in many cases, re-read):



- The Trial

- Brave New World

- Fahrenheit 451

- Nineteen Eighty-Four

- This Perfect Day

- The Man In The High Castle

- Make Room! Make Room!

- The Handmaid's Tale

- The Children Of Men

- Slant

- Jennifer Government

- The Windup Girl



My fave dystopian film remains Terry Gilliams' Brazil.



Thanks for the heads-up, CC. I might try to catch this series.
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: Anonymous on June 12, 2019, 02:39:20 PM
Quote from: "Blurt"I might check this out eventually.



I've always enjoyed dystopian fiction. Dystopian realities, not so much.



I don't watch TV, though, so I might stick to reading for the time being.



Dystopias I've read (and, in many cases, re-read):



- The Trial

- Brave New World

- Fahrenheit 451

- Nineteen Eighty-Four

- This Perfect Day

- The Man In The High Castle

- Make Room! Make Room!

- The Handmaid's Tale

- The Children Of Men

- Slant

- Jennifer Government

- The Windup Girl



My fave dystopian film remains Terry Gilliams' Brazil.



Thanks for the heads-up, CC. I might try to catch this series.

I finally read 1984 this year.
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: Bricktop on June 13, 2019, 08:46:27 PM
Quote from: "Blurt"I might check this out eventually.



I've always enjoyed dystopian fiction. Dystopian realities, not so much.



I don't watch TV, though, so I might stick to reading for the time being.



Dystopias I've read (and, in many cases, re-read):



- The Trial

- Brave New World

- Fahrenheit 451

- Nineteen Eighty-Four

- This Perfect Day

- The Man In The High Castle

- Make Room! Make Room!

- The Handmaid's Tale

- The Children Of Men

- Slant

- Jennifer Government

- The Windup Girl



My fave dystopian film remains Terry Gilliams' Brazil.



Thanks for the heads-up, CC. I might try to catch this series.


May I recommend two novels by British writer John Brunner. "The Sheep Look Up" and "Stand On Zanzibar". Sadly he died too young, but these two novels have been somewhat "re-discovered" (despite winning Hugo awards) as the equal of many more renowned tales of the dysfunctional future.



It helps to realise he foresaw a few technical developments of the 21st century, as did Orwell, Huxley et al.
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: Blurt on June 13, 2019, 11:14:02 PM
You may.



And, yep, I like Brunner. I've read the two you mention, along with The Shockwave Rider (cyberpunk before the advent of Cyberpunk).



The Sheep Look Up was an acquired taste. Brunner used narritive devices that were pretty innovative at the time but have since been over-used. A good read, in the end. Another win for the literature of ideas.
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: Anonymous on June 14, 2019, 12:05:21 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Blurt"I might check this out eventually.



I've always enjoyed dystopian fiction. Dystopian realities, not so much.



I don't watch TV, though, so I might stick to reading for the time being.



Dystopias I've read (and, in many cases, re-read):



- The Trial

- Brave New World

- Fahrenheit 451

- Nineteen Eighty-Four

- This Perfect Day

- The Man In The High Castle

- Make Room! Make Room!

- The Handmaid's Tale

- The Children Of Men

- Slant

- Jennifer Government

- The Windup Girl



My fave dystopian film remains Terry Gilliams' Brazil.



Thanks for the heads-up, CC. I might try to catch this series.


May I recommend two novels by British writer John Brunner. "The Sheep Look Up" and "Stand On Zanzibar". Sadly he died too young, but these two novels have been somewhat "re-discovered" (despite winning Hugo awards) as the equal of many more renowned tales of the dysfunctional future.



It helps to realise he foresaw a few technical developments of the 21st century, as did Orwell, Huxley et al.

I enjoyed 1984....thanks for the recommendation Bricktop.
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: Bricktop on June 16, 2019, 07:35:37 PM
Any time.



If you liked that, you may enjoy the John Brunner books I mentioned above.
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: Anonymous on June 17, 2019, 12:16:25 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Any time.



If you liked that, you may enjoy the John Brunner books I mentioned above.

I probably will..



The next book I read is the The Sheep Look Up by John Brunner.
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: Bricktop on June 17, 2019, 12:40:06 AM
Excellent choice.
Title: Re: Hey Wazz .. and everyone for that matter
Post by: Anonymous on June 17, 2019, 08:44:44 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Excellent choice.

I'm sure it will be.