https://time.com/5508196/no-more-deaths-migrants-border/?fbclid=IwAR0lrso-Y6zDmxPg2Pb4AymzAwC6PmYlsa7fKtl-aKKh0Lx9rbf5y9T5Gzo
Am I wrong to think "jailing" these peoples actions is just plain WRONG?
There is absolutely no way people would be jailed for leaving water in a desert in Australia.
Fine yes perhaps, jail no way.
Jails should be for violent offenders only.
What do you think?
You send migrants to offshore islands in manaus and Nauru, so perhaps they should send their water there
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Boat people are sent to offshore islands... given mobile phones, automatic washing machines and there is plenty of water in the tropics.....
Why can't you address the news article I posted? Don't you have an opinion on it?
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THAT is the point!!
We send them there to discourage others from illegally entering the country, and in doing so jeopardising their lives and those of their children.
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https://time.com/5508196/no-more-deaths-migrants-border/?fbclid=IwAR0lrso-Y6zDmxPg2Pb4AymzAwC6PmYlsa7fKtl-aKKh0Lx9rbf5y9T5Gzo
Am I wrong to think "jailing" these peoples actions is just plain WRONG?
There is absolutely no way people would be jailed for leaving water in a desert in Australia.
Fine yes perhaps, jail no way.
Jails should be for violent offenders only.
What do you think?
It's not only wrong, it's stupid.
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https://time.com/5508196/no-more-deaths-migrants-border/?fbclid=IwAR0lrso-Y6zDmxPg2Pb4AymzAwC6PmYlsa7fKtl-aKKh0Lx9rbf5y9T5Gzo
Am I wrong to think "jailing" these peoples actions is just plain WRONG?
There is absolutely no way people would be jailed for leaving water in a desert in Australia.
Fine yes perhaps, jail no way.
Jails should be for violent offenders only.
What do you think?
It's not only wrong, it's stupid.
Do ever think, thank god I don't live in the USA?
Only every day.
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We should do the same.
Yes.
One of your islands in the far north would do nicely.
And the same policy...you can sit here until we get around to declining your application, or go back from whence ye came.
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One of your islands in the far north would do nicely.
And the same policy...you can sit here until we get around to declining your application, or go back from whence ye came.
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They were giving aid to fugitives..
If they die of thirst, it works as a deterrent.
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If they die of thirst, it works as a deterrent.
I feel the same way about dickheads climbing Mount Everest.
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If they die of thirst, it works as a deterrent.
I feel the same way about dickheads climbing Mount Everest.
I would like to climb mount everest..
And ski to the south-pole.
But I dont expect people to feel sorry for me if I die.
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If they die of thirst, it works as a deterrent.
I feel the same way about dickheads climbing Mount Everest.
Why? It's their choice and their risk.
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Do ever think, thank god I don't live in the USA?
Yes! I would never want to live there.
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If they die of thirst, it works as a deterrent.
I feel the same way about dickheads climbing Mount Everest.
I would like to climb mount everest..
And ski to the south-pole.
But I dont expect people to feel sorry for me if I die.
Both stupid places to go. It's already been done... Do something never been done before.
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If they die of thirst, it works as a deterrent.
I feel the same way about dickheads climbing Mount Everest.
Why? It's their choice and their risk.
Because it puts OTHER people's lives at risk rescuing you.
I am absolutely dead against it and think people who go off and get themselves in trouble are absolute arseholes.
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THAT is the point!!
We send them there to discourage others from illegally entering the country, and in doing so jeopardising their lives and those of their children.
I feel like vomiting when I hear about little kids drowning.
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If they die of thirst, it works as a deterrent.
I feel the same way about dickheads climbing Mount Everest.
Why? It's their choice and their risk.
Because it puts OTHER people's lives at risk rescuing you.
I am absolutely dead against it and think people who go off and get themselves in trouble are absolute arseholes.
Most people that attempt these stunts have money..
If they brought their own rescue crew, it would not be a risk to emergency services or a cost to the city.
Here is what happened at Everest recently... you know they step over dead bodies on their way to the top, don't you?
They're wankers.
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They're wankers.
That picture isn't real.
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They're wankers.
That picture isn't real.
OK. How did you find out that?
This is real though. 8 dead.
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/australian-woman-ruth-mccance-formally-identified-as-one-of-eight-dead-in-indian-avalanche/ar-AADO0ie?ocid=spartanntp
Looks real to me...
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/climber-describes-scene-in-everests-death-zone-traffic-jams-and-corpses/
It's real, not fake.
I believe its real..
There is an actual traffic jam up there due to the local government giving too many licenses to climb..
They got greedy..
The trail is littered with corpses.. To keep the mood upbeat..
You take shelter in some cavern and the frozen corpses keep you company..
They also took shelter there..
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https://www.cbsnews.com/video/climber-describes-scene-in-everests-death-zone-traffic-jams-and-corpses/
It's real, not fake.
In the first picture it looked fake.
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They're wankers.
It's their choice to hike and to die up there.
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They're wankers.
It's their choice to hike and to die up there.
Then they should stay up there...
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The trail is littered with corpses.. To keep the mood upbeat..
ac_lmfao ac_lmfao ac_lmfao
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They're wankers.
It's their choice to hike and to die up there.
Then they should stay up there...
If they are brought down, it's not you who's paying for it.
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They're wankers.
It's their choice to hike and to die up there.
Then they should stay up there...
If they are brought down, it's not you who's paying for it.
People that attempt to climb Mt Everest have money and are not a burden on local services.
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They're wankers.
It's their choice to hike and to die up there.
Then they should stay up there...
If they are brought down, it's not you who's paying for it.
It's not about money. It's about rescuers being put in unnecessary scenarios.
These days rescuers tell people if they disobey warnings, there is no one coming to rescue you.
People have unrealistic views of being recued largely due to television shows which tells people all they have to do is ring 911 or 000 and within minutes they'll be helped.
MOST of those people going up Everest had ZERO experience mountain climbing. If you listen to the people who go there regularly they'll tell you there is no policing of the climbs.
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They're wankers.
It's their choice to hike and to die up there.
Then they should stay up there...
If they are brought down, it's not you who's paying for it.
It's not about money. It's about rescuers being put in unnecessary scenarios.
These days rescuers tell people if they disobey warnings, there is no one coming to rescue you.
People have unrealistic views of being recued largely due to television shows which tells people all they have to do is ring 911 or 000 and within minutes they'll be helped.
MOST of those people going up Everest had ZERO experience mountain climbing. If you listen to the people who go there regularly they'll tell you there is no policing of the climbs.
But, do they bring rescue personnel with them?
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But, do they bring rescue personnel with them?
[size=150]Climbers describe 'carnage' on Mount Everest as Australian rescued amid rising death toll[/size]
An Aussie climber may have been trying to scale Mt Everest without oxygen - and posted online the day before of his struggles.
https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/aussie-climber-rescued-on-mount-everest/news-story/07316df301b8bcad936d029bee9415e7
Meanwhile, a seasoned veteran of Mount Everest has spoken about the "chaos" at the summit of the mountain, saying, "I cannot believe what I saw up there".
"Death. Carnage. Chaos. Line-ups. Dead bodies on the route and in tents at camp 4. People who I tried to turn back who ended up dying. People being dragged down. Walking over bodies," climber and "adventure filmmaker" Elia Saikaly wrote.
"Everything you read in the sensational headlines all played out on our summit night."
He then described people stepping over a dead body.
"The early morning light had revealed the gateway to the summit of Everest and in parallel a human being who had lost his life. Here we all were, chasing a dream and beneath our very feet there was a lifeless soul. Is this what Everest has become?"
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Since there are plenty of dead bodies laying around summiting Everest, I would say no to having their own rescue teams.
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/dead-bodies-on-mount-everest-are-hard-to-get-down-2019-5?r=US&IR=T
11 people have died summiting Mount Everest this spring.
The deaths this year bring the total Everest death toll to more than 300 people since explorers first started climbing the mountain in the early 1900s.
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But, do they bring rescue personnel with them?
It doesn't deter climbers.
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But, do they bring rescue personnel with them?
If they still want to try Everest, that's their biz, not mine.
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But, do they bring rescue personnel with them?
If they still want to try Everest, that's their biz, not mine.
And nothing will stop them.
They have sherpas..
I would order them to carry me to the top like a true british gentleman.
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I would order them to carry me to the top like a true british gentleman.
And for the right price, I'm sure they would.
They disgust me. Their selfishness is abhorrent.
They have no right to leave grieving relatives behind.
What they do is NOT heroic.
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They have no right to leave grieving relatives behind.
What they do is NOT heroic.
I know thrill seekers. They are not heroes, but they have an unquenchable thirst for dangerous accomplishments.
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They have no right to leave grieving relatives behind.
What they do is NOT heroic.
I know thrill seekers. They are not heroes, but they have an unquenchable thirst for dangerous accomplishments.
They have neurons missing.
I suppose those aussie climbers learnt their trade on Mount kosiousko in the snowy mountains, climbing everest is a totally different quest
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They have no right to leave grieving relatives behind.
What they do is NOT heroic.
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You're brain damaged.
You know Kurt's Austrian uncle is a famous mountaineer who has his name in Wikipedia and owned a ski resort in the USA don't you?
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They would have had to start some where.
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No, I don't know Kurt the Austrian.
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No, I don't know Kurt the Austrian.
My husband Kurt, father was Austrian...
Husband...
VVVV
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No, I don't know Kurt the Austrian.
My husband Kurt, father was Austrian...
Husband...
VVVV
He looks strong.
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No, I don't know Kurt the Austrian.
My husband Kurt, father was Austrian...
Husband...
VVVV
He looks strong.
Yes, he does.