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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: Bricktop on July 01, 2019, 07:36:51 PM

Title: The Death of Newspapers
Post by: Bricktop on July 01, 2019, 07:36:51 PM
I had occasion to visit a coffee shop yesterday while killing a spare 30 minutes.



I noticed that it had the local paper made available to customers. I do not generally read print media, but I had to waste around 30 minutes before my appointment so I grabbed the latest edition to see what's going on in our little part of the world.



My first observation was that it was missing about half its pages. Perhaps someone had removed a section.



But, no. It was the entire edition. Barely enough paper to wrap a good portion of fish and chips.



It didn't take long to work out why. Classifieds were almost non existent, and many of the opinion articles were no longer present. Very few ads in relative terms. Content was almost entirely politics and crime, with a few local interest pieces thrown in to take up space.



It was but a shadow of its former self. Then I noticed the price. Almost $2.00. To tell me what I can see on the 24 hour news channels, or one of many web sites.



Print media is dying a slow and painful death.



I look forward to the funeral. Newspapers have long been playing manipulative games with their readers.



They deserve to die.
Title: Re: The Death of Newspapers
Post by: Zetsu on July 01, 2019, 07:44:55 PM
I hope they die too asap, they've caused enough trouble to many ppl just for the sake of attention whoring and manipulating the idiots out there.
Title: Re: The Death of Newspapers
Post by: Bricktop on July 01, 2019, 07:48:36 PM
Well said.
Title: Re: The Death of Newspapers
Post by: Anonymous on July 01, 2019, 09:26:15 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Well said.


Many newspapers are doing better online these days.
Title: Re: The Death of Newspapers
Post by: Bricktop on July 01, 2019, 09:38:57 PM
Which is, of course, where the dissemination of news and information will be solely located in the not too distant future.



Newspapers are really for the elderly and those who cannot or will not utilise the internet. They will fade out in time, as will the requirement to disperse information on physical media.



I saw a movie last night. A young man was courting a sweet young thing and she invited him to put some music on. She pointed towards an older stereo system, with CD's in a box. He questioned why she had CD's. She said they were her grandmother's.



Ouch.



No more iTunes, either.



Our entire intellectual and creative energy will become digitised. Perhaps even high art.
Title: Re: The Death of Newspapers
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 01, 2019, 11:20:32 PM
This is the new norm, people engrossed with their devices.



A newspaper will be useless eventually except for us old coots who still enjoy it. I am a whiz at crossword puzzles so I enjoy solving it when I go to the coffee shop.



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Title: Re: The Death of Newspapers
Post by: Bricktop on July 01, 2019, 11:46:10 PM
Newspapers are on the verge of collapse.



//http://newspaperdeathwatch.com/
Title: Re: The Death of Newspapers
Post by: Anonymous on July 02, 2019, 10:50:47 AM
Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"This is the new norm, people engrossed with their devices.



A newspaper will be useless eventually except for us old coots who still enjoy it. I am a whiz at crossword puzzles so I enjoy solving it when I go to the coffee shop.



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I subscribe to the NYT crossword and sometimes use their desktop app because it's so fast.  I don't use their phone app for it because it's just too tiny and "hinky."  But really, crosswords are a paper and ink thing for me and I prefer to print them and solve them with a pen.






Quote from: "Bricktop"Newspapers are on the verge of collapse.



//http://newspaperdeathwatch.com/


It's a lot harder for political cartoonists to get paid online.  I worry about what will happen to them when print media goes away.
Title: Re: The Death of Newspapers
Post by: Anonymous on July 02, 2019, 11:04:09 AM
Quote from: "Zetsu"I hope they die too asap, they've caused enough trouble to many ppl just for the sake of attention whoring and manipulating the idiots out there.

But, how is that different from online news?
Title: Re: The Death of Newspapers
Post by: Bricktop on July 02, 2019, 08:12:08 PM
That's a very good question.



Until the evolution of the internet, print media was the only means of obtaining a comprehensive summary of news. Television and radio were also vital, but were limited to specific times and were condensed into fixed time frames. Newspapers had broader scope to report and discuss issues.



The internet not only provides thousands of sources of news, most free, but also allows for public discussion and discourse. Cable television now provides 24 hour access to news which can be accessed via mobile devices.



Why should people PAY for information any more? That is the real issue. Print media requires a payment to survive. All print media has ever done is to disseminate information that would otherwise have been unavailable in a timely and immediate fashion.



Amidst the information, there were OPINION pieces from "journalists" often presented as fact, who had no more qualification to their opinions as anyone else...perhaps in many cases, less so. Opinion pieces rarely cited valid references that supported a particular viewpoint, nor did they offer opposing positions. Put another way, manipulation of public perception came embedded in every newspaper you bought. The internet enables people to filter out opinion journalism, or in some cases, confront it. If you don't like the inbuilt bias of a news outlet, you go elsewhere.



It can be argued that many newspapers were balanced and even handed in their reporting and opinion, but that no longer matters.



Paying 2 bucks for someone to tell you how to think has lost its appeal.
Title: Re: The Death of Newspapers
Post by: Anonymous on July 02, 2019, 09:24:22 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"That's a very good question.



Until the evolution of the internet, print media was the only means of obtaining a comprehensive summary of news. Television and radio were also vital, but were limited to specific times and were condensed into fixed time frames. Newspapers had broader scope to report and discuss issues.



The internet not only provides thousands of sources of news, most free, but also allows for public discussion and discourse. Cable television now provides 24 hour access to news which can be accessed via mobile devices.



Why should people PAY for information any more? That is the real issue. Print media requires a payment to survive. All print media has ever done is to disseminate information that would otherwise have been unavailable in a timely and immediate fashion.



Amidst the information, there were OPINION pieces from "journalists" often presented as fact, who had no more qualification to their opinions as anyone else...perhaps in many cases, less so. Opinion pieces rarely cited valid references that supported a particular viewpoint, nor did they offer opposing positions. Put another way, manipulation of public perception came embedded in every newspaper you bought. The internet enables people to filter out opinion journalism, or in some cases, confront it. If you don't like the inbuilt bias of a news outlet, you go elsewhere.



It can be argued that many newspapers were balanced and even handed in their reporting and opinion, but that no longer matters.



Paying 2 bucks for someone to tell you how to think has lost its appeal.


And that is different from CNN or CBC online?
Title: Re: The Death of Newspapers
Post by: Bricktop on July 02, 2019, 10:14:03 PM
Yes.



You don't PAY them directly for their news.
Title: Re: The Death of Newspapers
Post by: Anonymous on July 02, 2019, 10:17:01 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Yes.



You don't PAY them directly for their news.

We pay indirectly for CBC.
Title: Re: The Death of Newspapers
Post by: Bricktop on July 02, 2019, 10:50:36 PM
As we do for our ABC, which many people want sold off, shut down or privatised.
Title: Re: The Death of Newspapers
Post by: Gaon on July 03, 2019, 12:04:30 AM
Quote from: "Bricktop"As we do for our ABC, which many people want sold off, shut down or privatised.

It is unethical for the state to own a broadcasting company.
Title: Re: The Death of Newspapers
Post by: Anonymous on July 03, 2019, 12:23:28 AM
Quote from: "Gaon"
Quote from: "Bricktop"As we do for our ABC, which many people want sold off, shut down or privatised.

It is unethical for the state to own a broadcasting company.

I thought the government of Stephen Harper would have sold CBC, but they didn't.
Title: Re: The Death of Newspapers
Post by: Bricktop on July 03, 2019, 01:30:00 AM
Governments don't have the spine to offload their public broadcaster, even though they are well past their use by date.



People in remote areas rely on our ABC for news and entertainment because private broadcasters don't make any profit from them.
Title: Re: The Death of Newspapers
Post by: Berry Sweet on July 03, 2019, 01:48:08 AM
Please dont tell me im the only one here who still reads real books with pages.



The place I live at does not get news papers anymore.  No one ever read them.  Many door had an old faded pile and others just use to sit on the stoop while the wind blew the papers everywhere, its terrible when it rains, the paper sticks to everything.  I never asked but I think the landlord cancelled the papers.  I never read them, but they came in handy for painting and other art projects.
Title: Re: The Death of Newspapers
Post by: Anonymous on July 03, 2019, 08:54:51 AM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"Please dont tell me im the only one here who still reads real books with pages.



The place I live at does not get news papers anymore.  No one ever read them.  Many door had an old faded pile and others just use to sit on the stoop while the wind blew the papers everywhere, its terrible when it rains, the paper sticks to everything.  I never asked but I think the landlord cancelled the papers.  I never read them, but they came in handy for painting and other art projects.

I don't know about books, but e-readers are very common.
Title: Re: The Death of Newspapers
Post by: Zetsu on July 03, 2019, 09:47:07 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"I hope they die too asap, they've caused enough trouble to many ppl just for the sake of attention whoring and manipulating the idiots out there.

But, how is that different from online news?


Not much tbh, though online news often accept reviews, opinions and criticism to iron their misleading facts out.  ac_cool
Title: Re: The Death of Newspapers
Post by: Anonymous on July 03, 2019, 11:31:16 AM
The only place I see newspapers is at my dentist's clinic.
Title: Re: The Death of Newspapers
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on July 03, 2019, 12:39:47 PM
The library still has them and they carry newspapers still from other countries.
Title: Re: The Death of Newspapers
Post by: Anonymous on July 03, 2019, 02:34:47 PM
Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"The library still has them and they carry newspapers still from other countries.

Yes, I've seen that at the downtown branch of the library.
Title: Re: The Death of Newspapers
Post by: Bricktop on July 03, 2019, 07:09:13 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"Please dont tell me im the only one here who still reads real books with pages.



The place I live at does not get news papers anymore.  No one ever read them.  Many door had an old faded pile and others just use to sit on the stoop while the wind blew the papers everywhere, its terrible when it rains, the paper sticks to everything.  I never asked but I think the landlord cancelled the papers.  I never read them, but they came in handy for painting and other art projects.


Check out the list of new books.



80% are written by women.



Fictional writing has become a woman's domain. Few and fewer men are authors, and even fewer read their books.



Likewise more and more television series and movies are targetting a female audience. Men have lost interest. Perhaps they are more immersed in technological forms of entertainment such as video games.