Title: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Bricktop on July 13, 2019, 10:20:03 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 13, 2019, 10:20:03 PM
This is what REAL gun control looks like.
Time for some other countries to take action to protect their citizens.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2019, 11:04:46 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2019, 11:04:46 PM
Guns are being handed in, as happened in Australia 15 odd years ago.Quote from: "Bricktop"//https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48973511
This is what REAL gun control looks like.
Time for some other countries to take action to protect their citizens.
Isn't that what Wazzzup and Mel said would happen.....law abiding citizens giving up their guns.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Skippy on July 13, 2019, 11:13:18 PM
Post by: Skippy on July 13, 2019, 11:13:18 PM
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2019, 11:15:15 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2019, 11:15:15 PM
And alot of people are burying their semiautos like In oz to dig up when the chinese invasion beginsQuote from: "Skippy"
Hunting is very popular in New Zealand, so they will never eliminate firearms entirely.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Skippy on July 13, 2019, 11:23:04 PM
Post by: Skippy on July 13, 2019, 11:23:04 PM
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2019, 11:24:31 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2019, 11:24:31 PM
Yes an shooting for fun is popular in nz and oz tooQuote from: "Skippy"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://www.lrsc.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/LogoMildura.png%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://www.lrsc.org.au/wp-content/uploa%20...%20ildura.png%22%3Ehttp://www.lrsc.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/LogoMildura.png%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
It's very popular here too.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2019, 11:40:02 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2019, 11:40:02 PM
Guns are being handed in, as happened in Australia 15 odd years ago.Quote from: "Bricktop"//https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48973511
This is what REAL gun control looks like.
Time for some other countries to take action to protect their citizens.
Isn't that what Wazzzup and Mel said would happen.....law abiding citizens giving up their guns.
I said that too.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2019, 03:36:41 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2019, 03:36:41 AM
Was HE a law abiding citizen before freaking out and slaughtering 50 people?
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: caskur on July 14, 2019, 06:15:15 AM
Post by: caskur on July 14, 2019, 06:15:15 AM
And alot of people are burying their semiautos like In oz to dig up when the chinese invasion beginsQuote from: "Skippy"
Hunting is very popular in New Zealand, so they will never eliminate firearms entirely.
There are no animals in NZ that kill people, no bears, large cats, or snakes or crocodiles. No need for semi autos.
A normal gun can do the job if you have to put down a large animal like a horse with a broken leg.
Only military style semi and fully automatic weapons are banned. Not all guns are banned.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2019, 07:38:10 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2019, 07:38:10 AM
And alot of people are burying their semiautos like In oz to dig up when the chinese invasion beginsQuote from: "Skippy"
Hunting is very popular in New Zealand, so they will never eliminate firearms entirely.
There are no animals in NZ that kill people, no bears, large cats, or snakes or crocodiles. No need for semi autos.
A normal gun can do the job if you have to put down a large animal like a horse with a broken leg.
Only military style semi and fully automatic weapons are banned. Not all guns are banned.
Canada allows rifles to have bullets in the cartridge. I am not sure what the new legislation in New Zealand allows.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Wazzzup on July 14, 2019, 07:50:03 AM
Post by: Wazzzup on July 14, 2019, 07:50:03 AM
Guns are being handed in, as happened in Australia 15 odd years ago.Quote from: "Bricktop"//https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48973511
This is what REAL gun control looks like.
Time for some other countries to take action to protect their citizens.
The general claim is that getting rid of guns in Australia caused the murder rate to go down. But New Zealand matched Australia's murder reduction WITHOUT getting rid of guns.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2019, 12:24:59 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2019, 12:24:59 PM
Guns are being handed in, as happened in Australia 15 odd years ago.Quote from: "Bricktop"//https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48973511
This is what REAL gun control looks like.
Time for some other countries to take action to protect their citizens.
The general claim is that getting rid of guns in Australia caused the murder rate to go down. But New Zealand matched Australia's murder reduction WITHOUT getting rid of guns.(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://62e528761d0685343e1c-f3d1b99a743ffa4142d9d7f1978d9686.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/files/77898/area14mp/image-20150414-24627-1jnew19.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://62e528761d0685343e1c-f3d1b99a74%20...%20jnew19.jpg%22%3Ehttps://62e528761d0685343e1c-f3d1b99a743ffa4142d9d7f1978d9686.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/files/77898/area14mp/image-20150414-24627-1jnew19.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Murder rates have been falling in Canada and the US for years.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Wazzzup on July 14, 2019, 01:32:14 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on July 14, 2019, 01:32:14 PM
Yep in all 4 of the countries in the graph, murder rates, fell. BUT only one banned guns, the other three did not.Guns are being handed in, as happened in Australia 15 odd years ago.Quote from: "Bricktop"//https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48973511
This is what REAL gun control looks like.
Time for some other countries to take action to protect their citizens.
The general claim is that getting rid of guns in Australia caused the murder rate to go down. But New Zealand matched Australia's murder reduction WITHOUT getting rid of guns.(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://62e528761d0685343e1c-f3d1b99a743ffa4142d9d7f1978d9686.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/files/77898/area14mp/image-20150414-24627-1jnew19.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://62e528761d0685343e1c-f3d1b99a74%20...%20jnew19.jpg%22%3Ehttps://62e528761d0685343e1c-f3d1b99a743ffa4142d9d7f1978d9686.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/files/77898/area14mp/image-20150414-24627-1jnew19.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Murder rates have been falling in Canada and the US for years.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Gaon on July 14, 2019, 01:33:33 PM
Post by: Gaon on July 14, 2019, 01:33:33 PM
Guns are being handed in, as happened in Australia 15 odd years ago.Quote from: "Bricktop"//https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48973511
This is what REAL gun control looks like.
Time for some other countries to take action to protect their citizens.
The general claim is that getting rid of guns in Australia caused the murder rate to go down. But New Zealand matched Australia's murder reduction WITHOUT getting rid of guns.(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://62e528761d0685343e1c-f3d1b99a743ffa4142d9d7f1978d9686.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/files/77898/area14mp/image-20150414-24627-1jnew19.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://62e528761d0685343e1c-f3d1b99a74%20...%20jnew19.jpg%22%3Ehttps://62e528761d0685343e1c-f3d1b99a743ffa4142d9d7f1978d9686.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/files/77898/area14mp/image-20150414-24627-1jnew19.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Good information.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2019, 02:18:29 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2019, 02:18:29 PM
Guns are being handed in, as happened in Australia 15 odd years ago.Quote from: "Bricktop"//https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48973511
This is what REAL gun control looks like.
Time for some other countries to take action to protect their citizens.
The general claim is that getting rid of guns in Australia caused the murder rate to go down. But New Zealand matched Australia's murder reduction WITHOUT getting rid of guns.(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://62e528761d0685343e1c-f3d1b99a743ffa4142d9d7f1978d9686.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/files/77898/area14mp/image-20150414-24627-1jnew19.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://62e528761d0685343e1c-f3d1b99a74%20...%20jnew19.jpg%22%3Ehttps://62e528761d0685343e1c-f3d1b99a743ffa4142d9d7f1978d9686.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/files/77898/area14mp/image-20150414-24627-1jnew19.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
That's a good news graph Wazzzup.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: caskur on July 14, 2019, 04:34:10 PM
Post by: caskur on July 14, 2019, 04:34:10 PM
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2019, 08:35:18 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 14, 2019, 08:35:18 PM
Guns are being handed in, as happened in Australia 15 odd years ago.Quote from: "Bricktop"//https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48973511
This is what REAL gun control looks like.
Time for some other countries to take action to protect their citizens.
The general claim is that getting rid of guns in Australia caused the murder rate to go down. But New Zealand matched Australia's murder reduction WITHOUT getting rid of guns.(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://62e528761d0685343e1c-f3d1b99a743ffa4142d9d7f1978d9686.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/files/77898/area14mp/image-20150414-24627-1jnew19.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://62e528761d0685343e1c-f3d1b99a74%20...%20jnew19.jpg%22%3Ehttps://62e528761d0685343e1c-f3d1b99a743ffa4142d9d7f1978d9686.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/files/77898/area14mp/image-20150414-24627-1jnew19.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Oh, Wazzer...that graph is 6 years out of date.
What will NZ's murder rate look like in 2019 after you factor in 50 more deaths?
And what is the source of that data?
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2019, 10:28:41 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2019, 10:28:41 PM
It probably has nothing to do with guns and everything to do with drug induced mental health problems.... ie nut jobs and there are too many of them these days.Quote from: "caskur"
It's probably a combination of several factors.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2019, 11:16:12 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2019, 11:16:12 PM
Oh, Wazzer...that graph is 6 years out of date.
What will NZ's murder rate look like in 2019 after you factor in 50 more deaths?
And what is the source of that data?
The trend has not changed.
U.S. Murder Rate for 2018 Is on Track for a Big Drop
Murder rate hits a 40-year-low, police say
12:46, Sep 27 2018
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2019, 11:39:20 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 14, 2019, 11:39:20 PM
Oh, Wazzer...that graph is 6 years out of date.
What will NZ's murder rate look like in 2019 after you factor in 50 more deaths?
And what is the source of that data?
The trend has not changed.
U.S. Murder Rate for 2018 Is on Track for a Big Drophttps://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/06/upshot/us-murder-rate-for-2018-is-on-track-for-a-big-drop.html
Murder rate hits a 40-year-low, police say
12:46, Sep 27 2018https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/107415102/murder-rate-hits-a-40yearlow-police-say
The homicide rate is dropping in Canada too.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Bricktop on July 15, 2019, 12:38:58 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 15, 2019, 12:38:58 AM
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2019, 01:00:14 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2019, 01:00:14 AM
But what is the proportion of homicides involving firearms?Quote from: "Bricktop"
Lower than rate involving knives in Britain.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2019, 02:39:26 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2019, 02:39:26 AM
Guns are being handed in, as happened in Australia 15 odd years ago.Quote from: "Bricktop"//https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48973511
This is what REAL gun control looks like.
Time for some other countries to take action to protect their citizens.
The general claim is that getting rid of guns in Australia caused the murder rate to go down. But New Zealand matched Australia's murder reduction WITHOUT getting rid of guns.(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://62e528761d0685343e1c-f3d1b99a743ffa4142d9d7f1978d9686.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/files/77898/area14mp/image-20150414-24627-1jnew19.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://62e528761d0685343e1c-f3d1b99a74%20...%20jnew19.jpg%22%3Ehttps://62e528761d0685343e1c-f3d1b99a743ffa4142d9d7f1978d9686.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/files/77898/area14mp/image-20150414-24627-1jnew19.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Murder rates have been falling in Canada and the US for years.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Bricktop on July 15, 2019, 03:54:43 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 15, 2019, 03:54:43 AM
But what is the proportion of homicides involving firearms?Quote from: "Bricktop"
Lower than rate involving knives in Britain.
So by that logic, replacing knives with guns will reduce the homicide rate?
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2019, 04:29:56 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2019, 04:29:56 AM
But what is the proportion of homicides involving firearms?Quote from: "Bricktop"
Lower than rate involving knives in Britain.
So by that logic, replacing knives with guns will reduce the homicide rate?
You seem to think the reverse is true.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Bricktop on July 15, 2019, 07:46:33 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 15, 2019, 07:46:33 PM
That is simply common sense.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Odinson on July 16, 2019, 09:41:07 PM
Post by: Odinson on July 16, 2019, 09:41:07 PM
The government refunds previously legal items that are now banned..
They should have done the same in America after the abolition of slavery.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Odinson on July 16, 2019, 09:45:29 PM
Post by: Odinson on July 16, 2019, 09:45:29 PM
Things going to the direction they are going, we should give guns to females living near muslims and negroes..
Just so that they can go for an evening jog just like in old bad days.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Bricktop on July 16, 2019, 09:46:45 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 16, 2019, 09:46:45 PM
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Odinson on July 16, 2019, 09:57:54 PM
Post by: Odinson on July 16, 2019, 09:57:54 PM
Why would you need a gun?Quote from: "Bricktop"
I hunt..
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Bricktop on July 16, 2019, 10:05:55 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 16, 2019, 10:05:55 PM
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2019, 10:06:26 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2019, 10:06:26 PM
Why would you need a gun?Quote from: "Bricktop"
I hunt..
How does it work in Finland? Do you have to enter a draw or just buy a tag. Here, it's a tag for deer and a draw for moose.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Odinson on July 16, 2019, 10:11:07 PM
Post by: Odinson on July 16, 2019, 10:11:07 PM
Why would you need a gun?Quote from: "Bricktop"
I hunt..
How does it work in Finland? Do you have to enter a draw or just buy a tag. Here, it's a tag for deer and a draw for moose.
Our clubs are given certain amount of permits depending on the size of the club and the size of the moose/deer population.
Its population control.
Hunting is a necessity.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Bricktop on July 16, 2019, 10:12:06 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 16, 2019, 10:12:06 PM
Nonetheless, why do YOU do it?
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2019, 10:39:05 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 16, 2019, 10:39:05 PM
Why would you need a gun?Quote from: "Bricktop"
I hunt..
How does it work in Finland? Do you have to enter a draw or just buy a tag. Here, it's a tag for deer and a draw for moose.
Our clubs are given certain amount of permits depending on the size of the club and the size of the moose/deer population.
Its population control.
Hunting is a necessity.
So, you have to be a member of a private club? Here you buy deer tags at hunting and camping stores and enter draws through them too.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 17, 2019, 01:51:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 17, 2019, 01:51:00 AM
Why do you hunt?Quote from: "Bricktop"
Have you never tried wild game Bricktop?
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Bricktop on July 17, 2019, 03:03:28 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 17, 2019, 03:03:28 AM
That's about it.
I won't eat things killed for fun.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: caskur on July 17, 2019, 05:19:04 AM
Post by: caskur on July 17, 2019, 05:19:04 AM
Why would you need a gun?Quote from: "Bricktop"
I hunt..
How does it work in Finland? Do you have to enter a draw or just buy a tag. Here, it's a tag for deer and a draw for moose.
Our clubs are given certain amount of permits depending on the size of the club and the size of the moose/deer population.
Its population control.
Hunting is a necessity.
This is interesting because Australia has a feral deer population I didn't even know about.
The deer are being culled but prior to being culled, the drought had driven them to towns eating people's roses.
I thought to myself, "if animals are being driven to towns, let them eat the damn roses. The roses will grow back"
Unless an animal is being killed for food, I'm against hunting. I understand culling but the meat must be utilized.
Too many idiots out there who kill threatened species because they can.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: caskur on July 17, 2019, 05:22:33 AM
Post by: caskur on July 17, 2019, 05:22:33 AM
I once ate kangaroo.Quote from: "Bricktop"
That's about it.
I won't eat things killed for fun.
A hunter friend of ours killed a feral pig. It was cooked on the Webber at his place. It tasted OK.
The only thing I really eat from the wild is seafood. That is because my paternal side are professional crayfishermen.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: caskur on July 17, 2019, 05:28:45 AM
Post by: caskur on July 17, 2019, 05:28:45 AM
It only stopped MASS MURDER dead in its tracks.
There is something WORSE than mass murder, its surviving mass murder and being rendered maimed for life imho. I can't think of anything more cruel than that.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 17, 2019, 09:20:59 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 17, 2019, 09:20:59 AM
Why would you need a gun?Quote from: "Bricktop"
I hunt..
How does it work in Finland? Do you have to enter a draw or just buy a tag. Here, it's a tag for deer and a draw for moose.
Our clubs are given certain amount of permits depending on the size of the club and the size of the moose/deer population.
Its population control.
Hunting is a necessity.
This is interesting because Australia has a feral deer population I didn't even know about.
The deer are being culled but prior to being culled, the drought had driven them to towns eating people's roses.
I thought to myself, "if animals are being driven to towns, let them eat the damn roses. The roses will grow back"
Unless an animal is being killed for food, I'm against hunting. I understand culling but the meat must be utilized.
Too many idiots out there who kill threatened species because they can.
Deer wouldn't have many predators in Australia besides dingos.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Odinson on July 17, 2019, 01:29:41 PM
Post by: Odinson on July 17, 2019, 01:29:41 PM
Why would you need a gun?Quote from: "Bricktop"
I hunt..
How does it work in Finland? Do you have to enter a draw or just buy a tag. Here, it's a tag for deer and a draw for moose.
Our clubs are given certain amount of permits depending on the size of the club and the size of the moose/deer population.
Its population control.
Hunting is a necessity.
So, you have to be a member of a private club? Here you buy deer tags at hunting and camping stores and enter draws through them too.
It is preferred... And you have to own land to join a club.
However you can get a permit for state owned lands..
But it is so expensive that it aint really an option.
Several thousand euros... You need a few friends with you to make it more affordable.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Odinson on July 17, 2019, 01:31:59 PM
Post by: Odinson on July 17, 2019, 01:31:59 PM
Why would you need a gun?Quote from: "Bricktop"
I hunt..
How does it work in Finland? Do you have to enter a draw or just buy a tag. Here, it's a tag for deer and a draw for moose.
Our clubs are given certain amount of permits depending on the size of the club and the size of the moose/deer population.
Its population control.
Hunting is a necessity.
This is interesting because Australia has a feral deer population I didn't even know about.
The deer are being culled but prior to being culled, the drought had driven them to towns eating people's roses.
I thought to myself, "if animals are being driven to towns, let them eat the damn roses. The roses will grow back"
Unless an animal is being killed for food, I'm against hunting. I understand culling but the meat must be utilized.
Too many idiots out there who kill threatened species because they can.
Deer wouldn't have many predators in Australia besides dingos.
The lack of natural predators is the problem here..
We dont like wolves so they are too low in numbers to cull our natural moose population.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Odinson on July 17, 2019, 01:38:55 PM
Post by: Odinson on July 17, 2019, 01:38:55 PM
That is always debatable.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Nonetheless, why do YOU do it?
Its not debatable.
The fact is that especially moose becomes really destructive when in high numbers.
They demolish your house, collide with traffic and they destroy the forest.
Pine tree is laplands gold and we dont want to lose entire forests because there is a moose for every tree.
We are gonna have more moose than people within 10 years if we dont hunt them.
I hunt because its what we have always done.. Its a thing we do on the side.
I like the hunt.. Being with the guys, walking in the woods etc.
There is a certain satisfaction in eating something that you have caught yourself.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 17, 2019, 02:50:33 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 17, 2019, 02:50:33 PM
That is always debatable.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Nonetheless, why do YOU do it?
Its not debatable.
The fact is that especially moose becomes really destructive when in high numbers.
They demolish your house, collide with traffic and they destroy the forest.
Pine tree is laplands gold and we dont want to lose entire forests because there is a moose for every tree.
We are gonna have more moose than people within 10 years if we dont hunt them.
I hunt because its what we have always done.. Its a thing we do on the side.
I like the hunt.. Being with the guys, walking in the woods etc.
There is a certain satisfaction in eating something that you have caught yourself.
Moose is the best tasting hooved wild game I've ever tasted.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 17, 2019, 03:47:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 17, 2019, 03:47:00 PM
That is always debatable.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Nonetheless, why do YOU do it?
Its not debatable.
The fact is that especially moose becomes really destructive when in high numbers.
They demolish your house, collide with traffic and they destroy the forest.
Pine tree is laplands gold and we dont want to lose entire forests because there is a moose for every tree.
We are gonna have more moose than people within 10 years if we dont hunt them.
I hunt because its what we have always done.. Its a thing we do on the side.
I like the hunt.. Being with the guys, walking in the woods etc.
There is a certain satisfaction in eating something that you have caught yourself.
Moose is the best tasting hooved wild game I've ever tasted.
Elk is good, and so is venison. I have tried antelope too that my nephews shot down by Swift Current. It was good too.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: caskur on July 17, 2019, 06:46:45 PM
Post by: caskur on July 17, 2019, 06:46:45 PM
Why would you need a gun?Quote from: "Bricktop"
I hunt..
How does it work in Finland? Do you have to enter a draw or just buy a tag. Here, it's a tag for deer and a draw for moose.
Our clubs are given certain amount of permits depending on the size of the club and the size of the moose/deer population.
Its population control.
Hunting is a necessity.
This is interesting because Australia has a feral deer population I didn't even know about.
The deer are being culled but prior to being culled, the drought had driven them to towns eating people's roses.
I thought to myself, "if animals are being driven to towns, let them eat the damn roses. The roses will grow back"
Unless an animal is being killed for food, I'm against hunting. I understand culling but the meat must be utilized.
Too many idiots out there who kill threatened species because they can.
Deer wouldn't have many predators in Australia besides dingos.
There are no predators. Not even the dingoes. There aren't many dingoes.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Wazzzup on July 17, 2019, 07:00:25 PM
Post by: Wazzzup on July 17, 2019, 07:00:25 PM
I heard the dingos eat people's babies, not deer.Why would you need a gun?Quote from: "Bricktop"
I hunt..
How does it work in Finland? Do you have to enter a draw or just buy a tag. Here, it's a tag for deer and a draw for moose.
Our clubs are given certain amount of permits depending on the size of the club and the size of the moose/deer population.
Its population control.
Hunting is a necessity.
This is interesting because Australia has a feral deer population I didn't even know about.
The deer are being culled but prior to being culled, the drought had driven them to towns eating people's roses.
I thought to myself, "if animals are being driven to towns, let them eat the damn roses. The roses will grow back"
Unless an animal is being killed for food, I'm against hunting. I understand culling but the meat must be utilized.
Too many idiots out there who kill threatened species because they can.
Deer wouldn't have many predators in Australia besides dingos.
There are no predators. Not even the dingoes. There aren't many dingoes.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 17, 2019, 07:07:40 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 17, 2019, 07:07:40 PM
Why would you need a gun?Quote from: "Bricktop"
I hunt..
How does it work in Finland? Do you have to enter a draw or just buy a tag. Here, it's a tag for deer and a draw for moose.
Our clubs are given certain amount of permits depending on the size of the club and the size of the moose/deer population.
Its population control.
Hunting is a necessity.
This is interesting because Australia has a feral deer population I didn't even know about.
The deer are being culled but prior to being culled, the drought had driven them to towns eating people's roses.
I thought to myself, "if animals are being driven to towns, let them eat the damn roses. The roses will grow back"
Unless an animal is being killed for food, I'm against hunting. I understand culling but the meat must be utilized.
Too many idiots out there who kill threatened species because they can.
Deer wouldn't have many predators in Australia besides dingos.
There are no predators. Not even the dingoes. There aren't many dingoes.
There aren't many dingoes left?
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: caskur on July 17, 2019, 07:11:44 PM
Post by: caskur on July 17, 2019, 07:11:44 PM
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 17, 2019, 07:19:27 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 17, 2019, 07:19:27 PM
They cull them because they're really a mixture of domestic dog... They kill sheep. Farmers shoot them.Quote from: "caskur"
I saw some in North Queensland. I don't think there is many, if any where you live.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: caskur on July 17, 2019, 07:37:45 PM
Post by: caskur on July 17, 2019, 07:37:45 PM
They cull them because they're really a mixture of domestic dog... They kill sheep. Farmers shoot them.Quote from: "caskur"
I saw some in North Queensland. I don't think there is many, if any where you live.
I've seen a couple of people illegally keep pet dingoes... and two tall dingoes at Healsville Sanctuary in Victoria in the 70s..
At the moment they're starving and attacking people here. (what idiot parents take a child to a known wild dingo refuge?
VVVV
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 18, 2019, 01:20:02 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 18, 2019, 01:20:02 AM
They cull them because they're really a mixture of domestic dog... They kill sheep. Farmers shoot them.Quote from: "caskur"
I saw some in North Queensland. I don't think there is many, if any where you live.
I've seen a couple of people illegally keep pet dingoes... and two tall dingoes at Healsville Sanctuary in Victoria in the 70s..
At the moment they're starving and attacking people here. (what idiot parents take a child to a known wild dingo refuge?
VVVVhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-20/dingo-attack-fraser-island-toddler-recovering/11033158
I believe they are bigger than coyotes, but smaller than wolves..
In packs, they must be able to take down large animals.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Bricktop on July 18, 2019, 02:01:03 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 18, 2019, 02:01:03 AM
They rarely attack larger animals...they could not catch a kangaroo on the run, and won't attack full grown adult humans. Kids are attacked, but rarely fatally, although it has happened. As Caskur acknowledges, taking kids where dingoes inhabit is irresponsibly stupid.
I don't believe they hunt in packs like wolves, either.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 18, 2019, 02:08:56 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 18, 2019, 02:08:56 AM
I've not seen a coyote, but they are quite a bit smaller than a wolf.Quote from: "Bricktop"
They rarely attack larger animals...they could not catch a kangaroo on the run, and won't attack full grown adult humans. Kids are attacked, but rarely fatally, although it has happened. As Caskur acknowledges, taking kids where dingoes inhabit is irresponsibly stupid.
I don't believe they hunt in packs like wolves, either.
In packs, they would be perfect predators for deer or feral sheep.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Bricktop on July 18, 2019, 02:12:35 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 18, 2019, 02:12:35 AM
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Frood on July 18, 2019, 02:39:43 AM
Post by: Frood on July 18, 2019, 02:39:43 AM
They cull them because they're really a mixture of domestic dog... They kill sheep. Farmers shoot them.Quote from: "caskur"
I saw some in North Queensland. I don't think there is many, if any where you live.
I've seen a couple of people illegally keep pet dingoes... and two tall dingoes at Healsville Sanctuary in Victoria in the 70s..
They're still there. In wheelchairs and tartan blankets.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 18, 2019, 02:41:39 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 18, 2019, 02:41:39 AM
Deer would be too large, but they do kill sheep. Not as many as you think, as there is a dingo proof fence that stretches across Australia to keep them away from pastoral areas and it is quite effective.Quote from: "Bricktop"
A pack of dingoes can't kill a ninety kg deer?
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Frood on July 18, 2019, 02:44:38 AM
Post by: Frood on July 18, 2019, 02:44:38 AM
Deer would be too large, but they do kill sheep. Not as many as you think, as there is a dingo proof fence that stretches across Australia to keep them away from pastoral areas and it is quite effective.Quote from: "Bricktop"
A pack of dingoes can't kill a ninety kg deer?
ac_wot
They could if the deer is cornered but most deer here are much larger than 90 kg.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 18, 2019, 08:54:33 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 18, 2019, 08:54:33 AM
Deer would be too large, but they do kill sheep. Not as many as you think, as there is a dingo proof fence that stretches across Australia to keep them away from pastoral areas and it is quite effective.Quote from: "Bricktop"
A pack of dingoes can't kill a ninety kg deer?
ac_wot
They could if the deer is cornered but most deer here are much larger than 90 kg.
What type of deer do you have?
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Frood on July 18, 2019, 10:47:40 AM
Post by: Frood on July 18, 2019, 10:47:40 AM
Deer would be too large, but they do kill sheep. Not as many as you think, as there is a dingo proof fence that stretches across Australia to keep them away from pastoral areas and it is quite effective.Quote from: "Bricktop"
A pack of dingoes can't kill a ninety kg deer?
ac_wot
They could if the deer is cornered but most deer here are much larger than 90 kg.
What type of deer do you have?
There are 4 or 5 types here in Victoria, things that got loose and bred. Mostly Asian or African type deer like the Sambar or Mule deer. They get to be quite big.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 18, 2019, 11:22:59 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 18, 2019, 11:22:59 AM
Deer would be too large, but they do kill sheep. Not as many as you think, as there is a dingo proof fence that stretches across Australia to keep them away from pastoral areas and it is quite effective.Quote from: "Bricktop"
A pack of dingoes can't kill a ninety kg deer?
ac_wot
They could if the deer is cornered but most deer here are much larger than 90 kg.
What type of deer do you have?
There are 4 or 5 types here in Victoria, things that got loose and bred. Mostly Asian or African type deer like the Sambar or Mule deer. They get to be quite big.
Aus considers red deer or elk as deer, and they are. But, here we consider elk separate from white tail and muleys.
And Fash, muley bucks can weigh 150 kilograms.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Skippy on July 19, 2019, 08:52:40 PM
Post by: Skippy on July 19, 2019, 08:52:40 PM
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 19, 2019, 09:00:15 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 19, 2019, 09:00:15 PM
If nz gun laws are more lax than Australia then why are new zealand cops unarmed when oz cops areQuote from: "Skippy"ac_dunno
Interesting point point Skippy..
Enjoy your weekend.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Skippy on July 19, 2019, 09:11:38 PM
Post by: Skippy on July 19, 2019, 09:11:38 PM
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 19, 2019, 09:13:55 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 19, 2019, 09:13:55 PM
I plan on drinking lots this weekend then not drinking for two weeksQuote from: "Skippy"
No barrel wash for two weeks,
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Skippy on July 19, 2019, 09:23:29 PM
Post by: Skippy on July 19, 2019, 09:23:29 PM
I plan on drinking lots this weekend then not drinking for two weeksQuote from: "Skippy"
No barrel wash for two weeks,:shock:
I have to have bloods taken in 2 weeks time and if the docs know I've been drinking they will be mad
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 19, 2019, 09:36:27 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 19, 2019, 09:36:27 PM
I plan on drinking lots this weekend then not drinking for two weeksQuote from: "Skippy"
No barrel wash for two weeks,:shock:
I have to have bloods taken in 2 weeks time and if the docs know I've been drinking they will be mad:sad:
Fuck the Paki doctor.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Skippy on July 19, 2019, 09:42:22 PM
Post by: Skippy on July 19, 2019, 09:42:22 PM
I plan on drinking lots this weekend then not drinking for two weeksQuote from: "Skippy"
No barrel wash for two weeks,:shock:
I have to have bloods taken in 2 weeks time and if the docs know I've been drinking they will be mad:sad:
Fuck the Paki doctor.
How did you know
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 19, 2019, 09:45:33 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 19, 2019, 09:45:33 PM
I plan on drinking lots this weekend then not drinking for two weeksQuote from: "Skippy"
No barrel wash for two weeks,:shock:
I have to have bloods taken in 2 weeks time and if the docs know I've been drinking they will be mad:sad:
Fuck the Paki doctor.
How did you knowac_wot
Have you got a hot Paki gal doctor? I've had a few EI gals in the past. Some of them are frickin mad hot if you can get past the stinky cooch.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 20, 2019, 01:33:33 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 20, 2019, 01:33:33 AM
If nz gun laws are more lax than Australia then why are new zealand cops unarmed when oz cops areQuote from: "Skippy"ac_dunno
That would be just patrolman. They have real cops with guns.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Frood on July 20, 2019, 03:57:42 AM
Post by: Frood on July 20, 2019, 03:57:42 AM
If nz gun laws are more lax than Australia then why are new zealand cops unarmed when oz cops areQuote from: "Skippy"ac_dunno
Kiwi's tend to be more easy going and approachable. I suspect that they haven't devolved culturally as quickly as the rest of the West has in the last few decades and I reckon there's something to be said for the old ways. Australian cops have progressively become more militarized and testy like their North American brethren. Plus, Australian cops have always been opportunists and generally disagreeable hypocrites, so that doesn't help either. It's sad watching NZ make the same retarded mistakes Australia has since our Port Arthur event but I'm happy to see that a lot of people are resisting or refusing their government's power grab (aka Gun Buyback Scheme). Good for them!
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 20, 2019, 10:22:25 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 20, 2019, 10:22:25 AM
If nz gun laws are more lax than Australia then why are new zealand cops unarmed when oz cops areQuote from: "Skippy"ac_dunno
Kiwi's tend to be more easy going and approachable. I suspect that they haven't devolved culturally as quickly as the rest of the West has in the last few decades and I reckon there's something to be said for the old ways.Australian cops have progressively become more militarized and testy like their North American brethren.Plus, Australian cops have always been opportunists and generally disagreeable hypocrites, so that doesn't help either. It's sad watching NZ make the same retarded mistakes Australia has since our Port Arthur event but I'm happy to see that a lot of people are resisting or refusing their government's power grab (aka Gun Buyback Scheme). Good for them!
My brother is not militarized.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: caskur on July 20, 2019, 12:20:49 PM
Post by: caskur on July 20, 2019, 12:20:49 PM
If nz gun laws are more lax than Australia then why are new zealand cops unarmed when oz cops areQuote from: "Skippy"ac_dunno
Kiwi's tend to be more easy going and approachable. I suspect that they haven't devolved culturally as quickly as the rest of the West has in the last few decades and I reckon there's something to be said for the old ways. Australian cops have progressively become more militarized and testy like their North American brethren. Plus, Australian cops have always been opportunists and generally disagreeable hypocrites, so that doesn't help either. It's sad watching NZ make the same retarded mistakes Australia has since our Port Arthur event but I'm happy to see that a lot of people are resisting or refusing their government's power grab (aka Gun Buyback Scheme). Good for them!
Australia got rid of their "White Australia Policy".
Once you try to multi-CULT-ure a place then suddenly more violence erupts. CULT meaning a mixing of religious zealots.
Australia was always "white" Europeans with a sprinkling of Chinese since the Chinese came for the 1800s goldrush like they did in California. And Afghans too came to Australia very early in the 1800s.
I don't think a broad brush works on this issue though.
I don't think people get on... and the political system has floundered for regular people.
But, here we all are getting by and that'll keep happening until we don't.
Kiwis might be more easy going, Maori aren't. They're warriors.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 20, 2019, 02:40:24 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 20, 2019, 02:40:24 PM
If nz gun laws are more lax than Australia then why are new zealand cops unarmed when oz cops areQuote from: "Skippy"ac_dunno
Kiwi's tend to be more easy going and approachable. I suspect that they haven't devolved culturally as quickly as the rest of the West has in the last few decades and I reckon there's something to be said for the old ways. Australian cops have progressively become more militarized and testy like their North American brethren. Plus, Australian cops have always been opportunists and generally disagreeable hypocrites, so that doesn't help either. It's sad watching NZ make the same retarded mistakes Australia has since our Port Arthur event but I'm happy to see that a lot of people are resisting or refusing their government's power grab (aka Gun Buyback Scheme). Good for them!
Australia got rid of their "White Australia Policy".
Once you try to multi-CULT-ure a place then suddenly more violence erupts. CULT meaning a mixing of religious zealots.
Australia was always "white" Europeans with a sprinkling of Chinese since the Chinese came for the 1800s goldrush like they did in California. And Afghans too came to Australia very early in the 1800s.
I don't think a broad brush works on this issue though.
I don't think people get on... and the political system has floundered for regular people.
But, here we all are getting by and that'll keep happening until we don't.
Kiwis might be more easy going, Maori aren't. They're warriors.
Multiculturalism means balkanization.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: caskur on July 20, 2019, 02:51:10 PM
Post by: caskur on July 20, 2019, 02:51:10 PM
I need my memory for good stuff and political history isn't one of them. I studied German history from 1850, to the day Hitler marched into Poland in 1939.
I only like other artists and people who love peace and a beautiful planet...
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 20, 2019, 03:26:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 20, 2019, 03:26:00 PM
I know all the wars formerly started in the Balkans but I didn't keep all the details of the politics in my memory.Quote from: "caskur"
I need my memory for good stuff and political history isn't one of them. I studied German history from 1850, to the day Hitler marched into Poland in 1939.
I only like other artists and people who love peace and a beautiful planet...
Balkaniztion, ghettoizatyion, they are the result of multiculturalism.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: caskur on July 20, 2019, 03:30:30 PM
Post by: caskur on July 20, 2019, 03:30:30 PM
I know all the wars formerly started in the Balkans but I didn't keep all the details of the politics in my memory.Quote from: "caskur"
I need my memory for good stuff and political history isn't one of them. I studied German history from 1850, to the day Hitler marched into Poland in 1939.
I only like other artists and people who love peace and a beautiful planet...
Balkaniztion, ghettoizatyion, they are the result of multiculturalism.
They're building future ghettos in Perth atm...
I'd never thought I'd see the day that happened.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Odinson on July 20, 2019, 07:15:45 PM
Post by: Odinson on July 20, 2019, 07:15:45 PM
But when you put them in one place, they create a new Detroit.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Gaon on July 21, 2019, 03:32:32 PM
Post by: Gaon on July 21, 2019, 03:32:32 PM
I know all the wars formerly started in the Balkans but I didn't keep all the details of the politics in my memory.Quote from: "caskur"
I need my memory for good stuff and political history isn't one of them. I studied German history from 1850, to the day Hitler marched into Poland in 1939.
I only like other artists and people who love peace and a beautiful planet...
Balkaniztion, ghettoizatyion, they are the result of multiculturalism.
They're building future ghettos in Perth atm...
I'd never thought I'd see the day that happened.
What do you mean? High crime areas populated by immigrants?
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Gaon on July 21, 2019, 04:29:20 PM
Post by: Gaon on July 21, 2019, 04:29:20 PM
I know all the wars formerly started in the Balkans but I didn't keep all the details of the politics in my memory.Quote from: "caskur"
I need my memory for good stuff and political history isn't one of them. I studied German history from 1850, to the day Hitler marched into Poland in 1939.
I only like other artists and people who love peace and a beautiful planet...
Balkaniztion, ghettoizatyion, they are the result of multiculturalism.
They're building future ghettos in Perth atm...
I'd never thought I'd see the day that happened.
It's the same thing in Israel. We've absorbed many immigrants from all over the world in a short period of time. Some are professionals from developed countries. They are not only easily absorbed they a net benefit within three months of arriving. But, we also have 130,000 Ethiopians. Many are illiterate and can't assimilate into a high tech nation like Israel.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2019, 06:33:21 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2019, 06:33:21 PM
I know all the wars formerly started in the Balkans but I didn't keep all the details of the politics in my memory.Quote from: "caskur"
I need my memory for good stuff and political history isn't one of them. I studied German history from 1850, to the day Hitler marched into Poland in 1939.
I only like other artists and people who love peace and a beautiful planet...
Balkaniztion, ghettoizatyion, they are the result of multiculturalism.
They're building future ghettos in Perth atm...
I'd never thought I'd see the day that happened.
It's the same thing in Israel. We've absorbed many immigrants from all over the world in a short period of time. Some are professionals from developed countries. They are not only easily absorbed they a net benefit within three months of arriving. But, we also have 130,000 Ethiopians. Many are illiterate and can't assimilate into a high tech nation like Israel.
All things considered, I think Israel has done well integrating so many diverse immigrants.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Bricktop on July 21, 2019, 08:20:38 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 21, 2019, 08:20:38 PM
It's the same thing in Israel. We've absorbed many immigrants from all over the world in a short period of time. Some are professionals from developed countries. They are not only easily absorbed they a net benefit within three months of arriving. But, we also have 130,000 Ethiopians. Many are illiterate and can't assimilate into a high tech nation like Israel.
Israel is slightly different, however.
Israel has a unifying factor in that most of its people share the same faith. Whilst I have no doubt that other faiths are permitted without prejudice, Israel's immigration policy surely encourages people of Jewish persuasion and avoids the problems of allowing any and all people to flood in and simply fail to integrate. I imagine synagogues are ideally suited to facilitating integration.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Gaon on July 21, 2019, 08:35:34 PM
Post by: Gaon on July 21, 2019, 08:35:34 PM
It's the same thing in Israel. We've absorbed many immigrants from all over the world in a short period of time. Some are professionals from developed countries. They are not only easily absorbed they a net benefit within three months of arriving. But, we also have 130,000 Ethiopians. Many are illiterate and can't assimilate into a high tech nation like Israel.
Israel is slightly different, however.
Israel has a unifying factor in that most of its people share the same faith. Whilst I have no doubt that other faiths are permitted without prejudice, Israel's immigration policy surely encourages people of Jewish persuasion and avoids the problems of allowing any and all people to flood in and simply fail to integrate. I imagine synagogues are ideally suited to facilitating integration.
As I tried to explain to the owner of VF, Judaism is as varied as Christianity. It has everything from the ultra liberal reform denomination popular in America to the haredim. And most of the one million Russians in Israel are not Jews at all. I put up a Christmas tree, I eat pork and I never had a bar mitzvah. Most Russians in Israel are secularists like myself. My wife attends a Russian Orthodox church.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: caskur on July 21, 2019, 10:56:43 PM
Post by: caskur on July 21, 2019, 10:56:43 PM
I know all the wars formerly started in the Balkans but I didn't keep all the details of the politics in my memory.Quote from: "caskur"
I need my memory for good stuff and political history isn't one of them. I studied German history from 1850, to the day Hitler marched into Poland in 1939.
I only like other artists and people who love peace and a beautiful planet...
Balkaniztion, ghettoizatyion, they are the result of multiculturalism.
They're building future ghettos in Perth atm...
I'd never thought I'd see the day that happened.
What do you mean? High crime areas populated by immigrants?
In our beautiful suburbs, they're building highrise...
And in bushland, ugly cement blocks.
I'll dig through my images later. In an hour, we're celebrating my mum's birthday today even though she died last year. A family get-together.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2019, 11:04:32 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2019, 11:04:32 PM
I know all the wars formerly started in the Balkans but I didn't keep all the details of the politics in my memory.Quote from: "caskur"
I need my memory for good stuff and political history isn't one of them. I studied German history from 1850, to the day Hitler marched into Poland in 1939.
I only like other artists and people who love peace and a beautiful planet...
Balkaniztion, ghettoizatyion, they are the result of multiculturalism.
They're building future ghettos in Perth atm...
I'd never thought I'd see the day that happened.
What do you mean? High crime areas populated by immigrants?
In our beautiful suburbs, they're building highrise...
And in bushland, ugly cement blocks.
I'll dig through my images later. In an hour, we're celebrating my mum's birthday today even though she died last year. A family get-together.
Urban sprawl.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: caskur on July 21, 2019, 11:07:47 PM
Post by: caskur on July 21, 2019, 11:07:47 PM
I know all the wars formerly started in the Balkans but I didn't keep all the details of the politics in my memory.Quote from: "caskur"
I need my memory for good stuff and political history isn't one of them. I studied German history from 1850, to the day Hitler marched into Poland in 1939.
I only like other artists and people who love peace and a beautiful planet...
Balkaniztion, ghettoizatyion, they are the result of multiculturalism.
They're building future ghettos in Perth atm...
I'd never thought I'd see the day that happened.
What do you mean? High crime areas populated by immigrants?
In our beautiful suburbs, they're building highrise...
And in bushland, ugly cement blocks.
I'll dig through my images later. In an hour, we're celebrating my mum's birthday today even though she died last year. A family get-together.
Urban sprawl.
Yes, they claim they're fighting urban sprawl but they're just making other problems like filling up our suburbs with MORE cars and less mature trees making summer hotter than hell.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2019, 11:11:38 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2019, 11:11:38 PM
I know all the wars formerly started in the Balkans but I didn't keep all the details of the politics in my memory.Quote from: "caskur"
I need my memory for good stuff and political history isn't one of them. I studied German history from 1850, to the day Hitler marched into Poland in 1939.
I only like other artists and people who love peace and a beautiful planet...
Balkaniztion, ghettoizatyion, they are the result of multiculturalism.
They're building future ghettos in Perth atm...
I'd never thought I'd see the day that happened.
What do you mean? High crime areas populated by immigrants?
In our beautiful suburbs, they're building highrise...
And in bushland, ugly cement blocks.
I'll dig through my images later. In an hour, we're celebrating my mum's birthday today even though she died last year. A family get-together.
Urban sprawl.
Yes, they claim they're fighting urban sprawl but they're just making other problems like filling up our suburbs with MORE cars and less mature trees making summer hotter than hell.
So what is the solution?
People have to live some where.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: caskur on July 21, 2019, 11:34:12 PM
Post by: caskur on July 21, 2019, 11:34:12 PM
I know all the wars formerly started in the Balkans but I didn't keep all the details of the politics in my memory.Quote from: "caskur"
I need my memory for good stuff and political history isn't one of them. I studied German history from 1850, to the day Hitler marched into Poland in 1939.
I only like other artists and people who love peace and a beautiful planet...
Balkaniztion, ghettoizatyion, they are the result of multiculturalism.
They're building future ghettos in Perth atm...
I'd never thought I'd see the day that happened.
What do you mean? High crime areas populated by immigrants?
In our beautiful suburbs, they're building highrise...
And in bushland, ugly cement blocks.
I'll dig through my images later. In an hour, we're celebrating my mum's birthday today even though she died last year. A family get-together.
Urban sprawl.
Yes, they claim they're fighting urban sprawl but they're just making other problems like filling up our suburbs with MORE cars and less mature trees making summer hotter than hell.
So what is the solution?
People have to live some where.
They need to live where there are no permanent water restrictions.
They want to bring back populations to dying country towns.
It's a dilemma.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2019, 11:54:56 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 21, 2019, 11:54:56 PM
I know all the wars formerly started in the Balkans but I didn't keep all the details of the politics in my memory.Quote from: "caskur"
I need my memory for good stuff and political history isn't one of them. I studied German history from 1850, to the day Hitler marched into Poland in 1939.
I only like other artists and people who love peace and a beautiful planet...
Balkaniztion, ghettoizatyion, they are the result of multiculturalism.
They're building future ghettos in Perth atm...
I'd never thought I'd see the day that happened.
What do you mean? High crime areas populated by immigrants?
In our beautiful suburbs, they're building highrise...
And in bushland, ugly cement blocks.
I'll dig through my images later. In an hour, we're celebrating my mum's birthday today even though she died last year. A family get-together.
Urban sprawl.
Yes, they claim they're fighting urban sprawl but they're just making other problems like filling up our suburbs with MORE cars and less mature trees making summer hotter than hell.
So what is the solution?
People have to live some where.
They need to live where there are no permanent water restrictions.
They want to bring back populations to dying country towns.
It's a dilemma.
We don't have many places like that.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 22, 2019, 12:45:52 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 22, 2019, 12:45:52 AM
I know all the wars formerly started in the Balkans but I didn't keep all the details of the politics in my memory.Quote from: "caskur"
I need my memory for good stuff and political history isn't one of them. I studied German history from 1850, to the day Hitler marched into Poland in 1939.
I only like other artists and people who love peace and a beautiful planet...
Balkaniztion, ghettoizatyion, they are the result of multiculturalism.
They're building future ghettos in Perth atm...
I'd never thought I'd see the day that happened.
It's the same thing in Israel. We've absorbed many immigrants from all over the world in a short period of time. Some are professionals from developed countries. They are not only easily absorbed they a net benefit within three months of arriving. But, we also have 130,000 Ethiopians. Many are illiterate and can't assimilate into a high tech nation like Israel.
Mass immigration leads to problems. Low and slow is best for integrating immigrants.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Bricktop on July 22, 2019, 12:48:31 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 22, 2019, 12:48:31 AM
I know all the wars formerly started in the Balkans but I didn't keep all the details of the politics in my memory.Quote from: "caskur"
I need my memory for good stuff and political history isn't one of them. I studied German history from 1850, to the day Hitler marched into Poland in 1939.
I only like other artists and people who love peace and a beautiful planet...
Balkaniztion, ghettoizatyion, they are the result of multiculturalism.
They're building future ghettos in Perth atm...
I'd never thought I'd see the day that happened.
What do you mean? High crime areas populated by immigrants?
In our beautiful suburbs, they're building highrise...
And in bushland, ugly cement blocks.
I'll dig through my images later. In an hour, we're celebrating my mum's birthday today even though she died last year. A family get-together.
That's nothing.
Just got back from Melbourne.
The high rise apartment buildings going up there is astonishing.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Frood on July 22, 2019, 02:03:52 AM
Post by: Frood on July 22, 2019, 02:03:52 AM
I know all the wars formerly started in the Balkans but I didn't keep all the details of the politics in my memory.Quote from: "caskur"
I need my memory for good stuff and political history isn't one of them. I studied German history from 1850, to the day Hitler marched into Poland in 1939.
I only like other artists and people who love peace and a beautiful planet...
Balkaniztion, ghettoizatyion, they are the result of multiculturalism.
They're building future ghettos in Perth atm...
I'd never thought I'd see the day that happened.
What do you mean? High crime areas populated by immigrants?
In our beautiful suburbs, they're building highrise...
And in bushland, ugly cement blocks.
I'll dig through my images later. In an hour, we're celebrating my mum's birthday today even though she died last year. A family get-together.
That's nothing.
Just got back from Melbourne.
The high rise apartment buildings going up there is astonishing.
Did you check out the average driving skills around those areas? Clown car drivers without the outfits. You have to navigate like you're a frog in a metro swampland full of cross eyed snakes.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Bricktop on July 22, 2019, 02:10:00 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 22, 2019, 02:10:00 AM
Son, I've driven in every State, across the length and breadth of the UK and even in Italy. I've travelled in the US, Asia and SE Asia.
I am also a former police officer.
The worst drivers in the world are in Adelaide. No contest.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 22, 2019, 09:53:27 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 22, 2019, 09:53:27 AM
You forget, I am from Adelaide.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Son, I've driven in every State, across the length and breadth of the UK and even in Italy. I've travelled in the US, Asia and SE Asia.
I am also a former police officer.
The worst drivers in the world are in Adelaide. No contest.
Richmond, BC has the worst drivers in the world.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Bricktop on July 22, 2019, 07:56:35 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 22, 2019, 07:56:35 PM
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 23, 2019, 01:32:09 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 23, 2019, 01:32:09 AM
Wait til you've visited Adelaide.Quote from: "Bricktop"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xauMFSDNDdU
Why is that about Adelaide?
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 23, 2019, 01:58:08 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 23, 2019, 01:58:08 AM
You forget, I am from Adelaide.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Son, I've driven in every State, across the length and breadth of the UK and even in Italy. I've travelled in the US, Asia and SE Asia.
I am also a former police officer.
The worst drivers in the world are in Adelaide. No contest.
Richmond, BC has the worst drivers in the world.
There are lots of places like Richmond in Australia too.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Bricktop on July 23, 2019, 07:56:55 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 23, 2019, 07:56:55 PM
Wait til you've visited Adelaide.Quote from: "Bricktop"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xauMFSDNDdU
Why is that about Adelaide?
I could not begin to guess. In my opinion, these are some of the factors;
Absolutely pathetic driver training and development programs, particularly for immigrants.
A sense of road ownership that compels drivers to display appalling etiquette.
Poor road design and lack of infrastructure investment leading to driver frustration.
Licences available at age 16 - too young.
Inexperience in driving at highway speeds.
Insufficient police.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 24, 2019, 12:43:48 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 24, 2019, 12:43:48 AM
Wait til you've visited Adelaide.Quote from: "Bricktop"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xauMFSDNDdU
Why is that about Adelaide?
I could not begin to guess. In my opinion, these are some of the factors;
Absolutely pathetic driver training and development programs, particularly for immigrants.
A sense of road ownership that compels drivers to display appalling etiquette.
Poor road design and lack of infrastructure investment leading to driver frustration.
Licences available at age 16 - too young.
Inexperience in driving at highway speeds.
Insufficient police.
All factors that apply to here too.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Odinson on July 24, 2019, 06:47:11 PM
Post by: Odinson on July 24, 2019, 06:47:11 PM
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Bricktop on July 25, 2019, 12:02:43 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 25, 2019, 12:02:43 AM
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 25, 2019, 12:23:57 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 25, 2019, 12:23:57 AM
All of them are driving on the wrong side of the road.Quote from: "Odinson"
It took some getting used to when we were in Japan.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 25, 2019, 01:04:03 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 25, 2019, 01:04:03 AM
All of them are driving on the wrong side of the road.Quote from: "Odinson"
It took some getting used to when we were in Japan.
I've driven on the left side of the road everywhere from Botsawana to Bangladesh. I am okay with the steering column on either side.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 25, 2019, 07:12:48 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 25, 2019, 07:12:48 AM
All of them are driving on the wrong side of the road.Quote from: "Odinson"
It took some getting used to when we were in Japan.
I've driven on the left side of the road everywhere from Botsawana to Bangladesh. I am okay with the steering column on either side.
It's not the left side of the road that I would make me nervous about driving in those two countries.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 25, 2019, 08:42:49 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 25, 2019, 08:42:49 AM
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Bricktop on July 25, 2019, 07:21:49 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 25, 2019, 07:21:49 PM
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Odinson on July 25, 2019, 07:54:03 PM
Post by: Odinson on July 25, 2019, 07:54:03 PM
No, we drive on the left side, which is the right side.Quote from: "Bricktop"
That is some leftist bullshit..
Right is right..
I was just joking... I know everything is the other way around in the land down under.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Bricktop on July 25, 2019, 08:20:18 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 25, 2019, 08:20:18 PM
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 26, 2019, 09:59:53 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 26, 2019, 09:59:53 AM
Driving in Italy made me realise why so many Italians are fine racing drivers. It's how they drive ALL the time.Quote from: "Bricktop"
They put a lot of weight on the accelerator?
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Bricktop on July 26, 2019, 10:16:32 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 26, 2019, 10:16:32 PM
And they seem completely bemused by the pedal to it's immediate left.
And there are speed warning signs on the Autostrada...reminding drivers if they drop BELOW 100km/h they will be fined.
Which is somewhat bothersome when Avis could not provide you with the vehicle you booked, and give you a Fiat Uno instead, which, with its asthmatic and lawnmower sized engine struggles to achieve 110km/h top speed.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 26, 2019, 11:11:35 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 26, 2019, 11:11:35 PM
Oh, yes indeedy.Quote from: "Bricktop"
And they seem completely bemused by the pedal to it's immediate left.
And there are speed warning signs on the Autostrada...reminding driversif they drop BELOW 100km/h they will be fined.
Which is somewhat bothersome when Avis could not provide you with the vehicle you booked, and give you a Fiat Uno instead, which, with its asthmatic and lawnmower sized engine struggles to achieve 110km/h top speed.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Bricktop on July 26, 2019, 11:20:57 PM
Post by: Bricktop on July 26, 2019, 11:20:57 PM
Meanwhile, big Mercs, Alfas, Ferraris and Beemers are blasting past at 200km/h plus.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 26, 2019, 11:26:04 PM
Post by: Anonymous on July 26, 2019, 11:26:04 PM
It's around 100km between Rome and Naples...my foot was hard on the floorboards the whole way. 105 - 110km/h was the best I could do.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Meanwhile, big Mercs, Alfas, Ferraris and Beemers are blasting past at 200km/h plus.
Driving in Italy is a frickin blast.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Gaon on July 27, 2019, 12:13:31 AM
Post by: Gaon on July 27, 2019, 12:13:31 AM
Oh, yes indeedy.Quote from: "Bricktop"
And they seem completely bemused by the pedal to it's immediate left.
And there are speed warning signs on the Autostrada...reminding drivers if they drop BELOW 100km/h they will be fined.
Which is somewhat bothersome when Avis could not provide you with the vehicle you booked, and give you a Fiat Uno instead, which, with its asthmatic and lawnmower sized engine struggles to achieve 110km/h top speed.
I have been to West Europe. But, we took the train.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Bricktop on July 27, 2019, 01:42:36 AM
Post by: Bricktop on July 27, 2019, 01:42:36 AM
It's around 100km between Rome and Naples...my foot was hard on the floorboards the whole way. 105 - 110km/h was the best I could do.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Meanwhile, big Mercs, Alfas, Ferraris and Beemers are blasting past at 200km/h plus.
Driving in Italy is a frickin blast.
It's different to what I am used to, that's for sure.
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 27, 2019, 03:49:43 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 27, 2019, 03:49:43 AM
Title: Re: New Zealand un-bites the bullet.
Post by: Anonymous on July 27, 2019, 06:14:26 AM
Post by: Anonymous on July 27, 2019, 06:14:26 AM
Once we are out of Canada, I don't want to drive ever again.Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
We always drive in Taiwan or the Netherlands.