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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: Berry Sweet on August 12, 2019, 09:23:02 PM

Poll
Question: Is addiction a disease?
Option 1: Yes votes: 6
Option 2: No votes: 2
Option 3: Other votes: 2
Title: Is addiction a disease?
Post by: Berry Sweet on August 12, 2019, 09:23:02 PM
What are your thoughts about this?
Title: Re: Is addiction a disease?
Post by: Zetsu on August 12, 2019, 09:43:31 PM
Physically I wouldn't say it is, but mentally yes, mental problems can be contagious.
Title: Re: Is addiction a disease?
Post by: Bricktop on August 12, 2019, 09:56:51 PM
Yup.
Title: Re: Is addiction a disease?
Post by: Anonymous on August 12, 2019, 10:45:22 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"What are your thoughts about this?

I'll guess yes.
Title: Re: Is addiction a disease?
Post by: Anonymous on August 12, 2019, 10:54:26 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"What are your thoughts about this?


Yes, in many cases.  I'm aware of a multiplicity of professional opinions among psychologists, psychiatrists, MDs, social workers, people who identify themselves as addicts, and I could drone on about all those opinions, but you didn't ask for that.



So, my own opinion is that while there is such a thing as a purely medical or pharmacological addiction that can be stripped of other trappings, addiction as a primary disease is more complicated, having emotional and spiritual components as well as neurochemical ones.



Addiction occurs in people who are dissatisfied with their own internal state and don't understand how to fix it, so they learn instead to manipulate their neurochemistry.



To an addict, everything becomes about behaviors that manipulate the four or five brain chemicals that cause one to experience happiness, elation, ecstasy, and so on.  Since the brain can make most of these chemicals without having to be chemically stimulated, the ingestion of drugs including alcohol isn't strictly necessary.  This neurochemistry can also be stimulated by many other behaviors such as eating disorders, codependency, compulsive gambling or debting, physical thrill seeking, sexual behaviors including porn, love seeking, and the list goes on.  



A "real addict" can and will move from one addictive behavior to another in order to mediate the discomfort of withdrawal from his primary addiction.
Title: Re: Is addiction a disease?
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 12, 2019, 11:32:20 PM
"Many people don't understand why or how other people become addicted to drugs. They may mistakenly think that those who use drugs lack moral principles or willpower and that they could stop their drug use simply by choosing to. In reality, drug addiction is a complex disease, and quitting usually takes more than good intentions or a strong will. Drugs change the brain in ways that make quitting hard, even for those who want to. Fortunately, researchers know more than ever about how drugs affect the brain and have found treatments that can help people recover from drug addiction and lead productive lives."



https://www.drugabuse.gov/related-topics/addiction-science
Title: Re: Is addiction a disease?
Post by: Anonymous on August 13, 2019, 12:00:39 AM
I've had addictions to alcohol, caffeine, drugs, and tobacco since I was twelve. Addiction aint no disease.
Title: Re: Is addiction a disease?
Post by: Anonymous on August 13, 2019, 01:52:35 AM
Quote from: "Herman"I've had addictions to alcohol, caffeine, drugs, and tobacco since I was twelve. Addiction aint no disease.

I read addiction is a disease.
Title: Re: Is addiction a disease?
Post by: Anonymous on August 13, 2019, 01:10:26 PM
Quote from: "Peaches" addiction as a primary disease is more complicated, having emotional and spiritual components as well as neurochemical ones.



Addiction occurs in people who are dissatisfied with their own internal state and don't understand how to fix it, so they learn instead to manipulate their neurochemistry.

in a nutshell, I would  agree.
Title: Re: Is addiction a disease?
Post by: Anonymous on August 13, 2019, 04:35:03 PM
Addiction isn't always a disease, but it can be. I was physically addicted to alcohol fifteen years ago.
Title: Re: Is addiction a disease?
Post by: Anonymous on August 13, 2019, 06:18:12 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"Addiction isn't always a disease, but it can be. I was physically addicted to alcohol fifteen years ago.

Alcohol withdrawal is a very temporary thing. Not, that I would know. I do not try to quit. ac_drinks
Title: Re: Is addiction a disease?
Post by: Anonymous on August 13, 2019, 06:59:57 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"Addiction isn't always a disease, but it can be. I was physically addicted to alcohol fifteen years ago.

That must have been terrible IHJ..



I'm glad you're healed now.

 :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
Title: Re: Is addiction a disease?
Post by: Odinson on August 13, 2019, 07:05:56 PM
Its a mental illness.. You are not able to live normally without the high..





But I hate it when these speedmonkeys have started to abuse the "illness" factor..



They deserve a very limited amount of sympathy.
Title: Re: Is addiction a disease?
Post by: Anonymous on August 13, 2019, 07:55:04 PM
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"What are your thoughts about this?

I voted yes.
Title: Re: Is addiction a disease?
Post by: Bricktop on August 13, 2019, 08:01:38 PM
Odd that people view "addiction" as a dependency on chemicals.



There are other forms of addiction that do not involve ingesting drugs and alcohol.
Title: Re: Is addiction a disease?
Post by: Anonymous on August 13, 2019, 08:07:26 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Odd that people view "addiction" as a dependency on chemicals.



There are other forms of addiction that do not involve ingesting drugs and alcohol.

Of course there are. Gambling and video games are a couple of examples.
Title: Re: Is addiction a disease?
Post by: Bricktop on August 13, 2019, 08:59:13 PM
Exactly.



And more sinister and destructive activities.
Title: Re: Is addiction a disease?
Post by: Anonymous on August 13, 2019, 09:32:18 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Exactly.



And more sinister and destructive activities.

Online gaming is more sinister than alcohol and drugs?
Title: Re: Is addiction a disease?
Post by: Anonymous on August 14, 2019, 02:01:14 AM
To be honest ~ food & sex are my drugs of choice... and then troll forums.  



I could wake up every morning and decide that what will make me happy is to not go to work, to eat ice cream, and play online all day.  A few people might blow off work and risk losing our jobs, houses, cars, etc.  However, most of us will force ourselves out of bed to go to work.  You make a choice everyday to either work hard or to give into the maximum pleasure sensory of your brain.   I think addiction is lazy.
Title: Re: Is addiction a disease?
Post by: Bricktop on August 14, 2019, 02:15:43 AM
Quote from: "Murdock"To be honest ~ food & sex are my drugs of choice... and then troll forums.  



I could wake up every morning and decide that what will make me happy is to not go to work, to eat ice cream, and play online all day.  A few people might blow off work and risk losing our jobs, houses, cars, etc.  However, most of us will force ourselves out of bed to go to work.  You make a choice everyday to either work hard or to give into the maximum pleasure sensory of your brain.   I think addiction is lazy.


And laziness is an addiction.
Title: Re: Is addiction a disease?
Post by: Odinson on August 14, 2019, 08:31:21 AM
Gambling, food, working out are all very addictive..



Its the high.



People who quit drinking or smoking, get very fat afterwards because they pick up another habit... Like eating copious amounts of junkfood and candy.
Title: Re: Is addiction a disease?
Post by: Anonymous on August 14, 2019, 11:44:30 AM
Quote from: "Odinson"Gambling, food, working out are all very addictive..



Its the high.



People who quit drinking or smoking, get very fat afterwards because they pick up another habit... Like eating copious amounts of junkfood and candy.

Working can be an addiction too.
Title: Re: Is addiction a disease?
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 14, 2019, 09:56:12 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"Gambling, food, working out are all very addictive..



Its the high.



People who quit drinking or smoking, get very fat afterwards because they pick up another habit... Like eating copious amounts of junkfood and candy.

Working can be an addiction too.


I used to work with a woman who was only required to work 8 hours a day but she would stay for 10 hours. Then she would also come on the weekends. When you go to her desk, terribly disorganized. What does she do in all that time?
Title: Re: Is addiction a disease?
Post by: Anonymous on August 14, 2019, 10:03:25 PM
Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"Gambling, food, working out are all very addictive..



Its the high.



People who quit drinking or smoking, get very fat afterwards because they pick up another habit... Like eating copious amounts of junkfood and candy.

Working can be an addiction too.


I used to work with a woman who was only required to work 8 hours a day but she would stay for 10 hours. Then she would also come on the weekends. When you go to her desk, terribly disorganized. What does she do in all that time?

Facebook, youtube, snapchat,instagram, photo sharing.
Title: Re: Is addiction a disease?
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on August 14, 2019, 10:17:44 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Facebook, youtube, snapchat,instagram, photo sharing.


She is in the twilight of her years at the job and she's not in any of those platforms.
Title: Re: Is addiction a disease?
Post by: Odinson on August 14, 2019, 10:28:38 PM
Does she get paid over time?
Title: Re: Is addiction a disease?
Post by: Anonymous on August 14, 2019, 10:52:02 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"Does she get paid over time?

Probably a salary like I get.
Title: Re: Is addiction a disease?
Post by: Anonymous on August 14, 2019, 10:59:21 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Murdock"To be honest ~ food & sex are my drugs of choice... and then troll forums.  



I could wake up every morning and decide that what will make me happy is to not go to work, to eat ice cream, and play online all day.  A few people might blow off work and risk losing our jobs, houses, cars, etc.  However, most of us will force ourselves out of bed to go to work.  You make a choice everyday to either work hard or to give into the maximum pleasure sensory of your brain.   I think addiction is lazy.


And laziness is an addiction.

Is it, or is just a bad habit?