Title: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2019, 02:22:54 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2019, 02:22:54 PM
By Lorne Gunter of Sun News Media
I thought Prime Minister Justin Trudeau had hit a new low for incoherent and incomprehensible speeches back in June when he announced his government's plan to ban single-use plastics at a news conference in a nature preserve southeast of Montreal.
The Trudeau family has charged taxpayers up to $300 a month for bottled water since Justin took office, something our sanctimoniously "green" P.M. has trouble justifying while plotting to take plastics away from the rest of us.
So when asked by a reporter if his family had made any efforts to reduce its own plastics use, the bumbling, fumbling Trudeau stammered, "We have recently switched to drinking water bottles out of... water out of... when we have water bottles out of plastic. Sorry! Away from plastic towards paper like drink-box water bottle sort of things."
But now that announcement looks like a Nobel prize acceptance speech next to the gibberish and gobbledygook Trudeau served up at a news conference in Niagara-on-the-lake on Wednesday when asked for his reaction to Ethics Commissioner Mario Dion's scathing report on the Snc-lavalin scandal.
But first, a couple of new gems that have surfaced since yesterday from Dion's 63-page report.
Members of Trudeau's staff continue to meet with Snc-lavalin executives even after the director of public prosecutions (DPP) had decided a deferred prosecution agreement was not justified in the bribery case of the Montreal engineering firm.
They continued to meet secretly with SNC while Trudeau and others were pressuring then-attorney General Jody Wilson-raybould to overrule the DPP, as well as after SNC had filed a formal appeal of the DPP'S ruling.
Also, Dion revealed that at least nine witnesses claimed they had more to tell him about the prime minister's or his staff's behaviour but could not because Trudeau had invoked cabinet confidentiality rules to keep them quiet.
The nonsense at Trudeau's Wednesday news conference revolves around his repeated claim that he "fully accepts and takes responsibility" for what the ethics commissioner called his "troubling tactics" and "flagrant attempts to influence" Wilson-raybould's decision.
Trudeau said he took responsibility, but then he stated he disagreed with Dion's conclusions and failed to identify any concrete steps he had taken.
He said he took responsibility, but then excused his behaviour by insisting it is "my job as prime minister to stand up for Canadians and defend their interests."
He then admitted that "yes, it is essential that we do that in a way that defends our institutions and upholds prosecutorial independence, but we need to be able to talk about the impacts on Canadians right across the country of decisions being made."
That's true, if by "impacts on Canadians" you mean the impact on Liberal votes and if by "right across the country" you mean from Montreal to Sept-iles.
He said he took responsibility, but then he added "I can't apologize for standing up for Canadian jobs." He said he took responsibility, then described the scandal as "two elements" of his job "coming into conflict in an unfortunate way."
He found it difficult "to balance and navigate through the very important principles of defending the public interest and respecting and upholding ... the independence of our judiciary," yet he has shown absolutely no understanding that an independent judiciary is vastly more important to the public interest than jobs at a Liberal-friendly firm in a (largely) Liberal-friendly province.
That's why his response to the ethics report is such utter rubbish. It makes less sense than his "drinking water from boxes" bafflement.
Once again we see a prime minister who believes that the greatest public good is re-election of the Liberal government. Anything that stands in the way of that can be brushed aside.
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2019, 02:25:06 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2019, 02:25:06 PM
By Brian Lilley
We know that what Justin Trudeau did in the Snc-lavalin affair was unethical, now we need to know if what he did was criminal.
The Ethics Commissioner found that Trudeau broke the law — violated the Conflict of Interest Act — in pushing for Snc-lavalin to get a sweetheart deal to avoid bribery and corruption charges.
What the RCMP need to determine now is whether Trudeau is guilty of obstruction of justice.
"The RCMP is examining this matter carefully with all available information and will take appropriate actions as required," the RCMP said in a statement.
That doesn't tell us whether Trudeau is actually under investigation, but he should be.
"The evidence abundantly shows that Mr. Trudeau knowingly sought to influence Ms. Wilson-raybould both directly and through the actions of his agents," Ethics Commissioner Mario Dion wrote in his report.
For people that think trying to influence the attorney general not to prosecute a company on bribery and corruption charges is no big deal, stop and think about that.
The leader of our national government was trying, as the report stated, to "circumvent, undermine and ultimately attempt to discredit the decision of the Director of Public Prosecutions."
That means that the leader of our national government wanted to decide whether a company — it could very well have been an individual — would be prosecuted by how he felt about them.
We do not have a justice system that decides who should and should not be prosecuted based on who you know in the PMO, but that is what Trudeau wanted.
The criminal code defines obstruction of justice as someone who "wilfully attempts in any manner to obstruct, pervert or defeat the course of justice in a judicial proceeding."
Can you say that Justin Trudeau's actions don't fit within that definition?
When this story first broke, I asked former Ontario attorney general, and Liberal, Michael Bryant for his thoughts.
Bryant, who now heads up the Canadian Civil Liberties Association, was blunt.
"A lot of police officers have laid a lot of obstruction of justice charges on a lot of ordinary Canadians, with a lot less evidence than this," Bryant said.
Justice, if served properly, should treat the prime minister the same as the average person.
If ordinary Canadians would face charges for this, then so should the prime minister.
The PM is trying to skate past this by saying that he was just trying to protect jobs.
Nevermind that the former CEO of Snc-lavalin said the 9,000 jobs in Canada would not have been in jeopardy if the company was convicted, and forget that most of the people employed by SNC would be hired elsewhere.
The PM'S claim raises some important questions.
If it is okay to break the law to 'save jobs,' how many jobs does it take to justify breaking the law?
The PM is playing a dangerous game here — one that could do serious damage to our justice system and challenge the idea that Canada is a country based on the rule of law.
If the PM can try to force a decision on prosecution, then what is to stop a future PM from calling a judge to get the decision they want? That isn't a justice system that I want for Canada.
This is what is on the line here, this is why this matters.
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2019, 02:26:59 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2019, 02:26:59 PM
Demand answers on how Trudeau broke law
Conservative members of the House of Commons ethics committee are asking for an emergency meeting on how Prime Minister Justin Trudeau broke the country's ethics law.
Peter Kent, MP for Thornhill, and Jacques Gourde, MP for Levis-lotbiniere, have written to the committee chair asking that a meeting be called so that MPS can hear from Ethics Commissioner Mario Dion.
"These findings show that Justin Trudeau used the power of his office to reward his friends and punish his critics," the pair write regarding the report by Dion issued Wednesday.
The report found that Trudeau violated the Conflict of Interest Act in multiple ways by inappropriately pressuring then attorney general Jody Wilson-raybould to give a sweetheart deal to construction and engineering giant Snc-lavalin.
"The authority of the prime minister and his office was used to circumvent, undermine and ultimately attempt to discredit the decision of the director of public prosecutions as well as the authority of Ms. Wilson-raybould as the Crown's chief law officer," Dion wrote.
Prosecutors are supposed to make decisions on who to charge criminally without political interference but Dion found that Trudeau did interfere politically on behalf of Snc-lavalin and even let partisan political considerations enter the discussion, including his own re-election prospects.
"Canadians deserve fulsome answers to the many remaining questions," Kent and Gourde write.
They ask committee chair Bob Zimmer, also a Conservative MP, to call a meeting on an urgent basis and invite Dion to appear.
The New Democrats are also asking for an urgent committee meeting.
Trudeau has said that he accepts the report but has openly rejected Dion's conclusion and insists he did nothing wrong.
The RCMP have said that they are looking into the matter.
"The RCMP is examining this matter carefully with all available information and will take appropriate actions as required," the force said in a statement, declining to elaborate further.
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2019, 02:29:15 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2019, 02:29:15 PM
FREDERICTON — Prime Minister Justin trudeau is repeating what's sure to be his go-to election campaign message on the snclavalin affair: he's not about to apologize for what he calls standing up for Canadian jobs, communities and citizens.
During an event in Fredericton this morning, trudeau reiterated that he accepts Wednesday's damning report from federal ethics commissioner Mario dion and takes full responsibility for what happened.
"I'm not going to apologize for standing up for Canadian jobs, because that's my job — to make sure Canadians and communities and pensioners and families across the country are supported, and that's what i will always do," he said during a brief, impromptu news conference.
"I disagree with the ethics commissioner's conclusions, but he is an officer of Parliament doing his job and I fully accept his report, which means I take full responsibility."
He also says the government intends to implement the recommendations of a separate report from former Liberal cabinet minister anne Mclellan.
Pressure is mounting on trudeau to say he's sorry to former cabinet members Jody Wilsonraybould and Jane Philpott, but the prime minister is making it clear that no such apology will be forthcoming.
Ethics Commissioner Mario dion concluded that the prime minister violated the Conflict of interest act by improperly pressuring Wilson-raybould.
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2019, 02:31:57 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2019, 02:31:57 PM
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2019, 03:41:50 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2019, 03:41:50 PM
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: sasquatch on August 16, 2019, 05:52:55 PM
Post by: sasquatch on August 16, 2019, 05:52:55 PM
Poor Justine. His au pairs told him growing up he could do whatever he wanted because he is so frickin cute.Quote from: "Herman"
This is what happens when self-entitled rich kids grow up to be self-entitled adults who only won on his famous(arguably step) daddy's last name.
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Gaon on August 16, 2019, 06:05:54 PM
Post by: Gaon on August 16, 2019, 06:05:54 PM
Poor Justine. His au pairs told him growing up he could do whatever he wanted because he is so frickin cute.Quote from: "Herman"
This is what happens when self-entitled rich kids grow up to be self-entitled adults who only won on his famous(arguably step) daddy's last name.
I am an immigrant, but from what I have read that is why he is Canada's prime minister.
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2019, 07:00:12 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2019, 07:00:12 PM
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Bricktop on August 16, 2019, 07:10:32 PM
Post by: Bricktop on August 16, 2019, 07:10:32 PM
Public outcry would leave his party no option but to remove the leader.
I suspect the same applies to many other countries...even the US!!!
WTF is wrong with you people. Make some noise.
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2019, 08:34:09 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2019, 08:34:09 PM
If this conduct occurred in Australia, regardless of which side of politics the culprit resided in, he or she would be OUT in a heartbeat.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Public outcry would leave his party no option but to remove the leader.
I suspect the same applies to many other countries...even the US!!!
WTF is wrong with you people. Make some noise.
Our election is only sixty six days away..
It's too late for the Liberal Party to replace Justin Trudeau.
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Bricktop on August 16, 2019, 09:03:39 PM
Post by: Bricktop on August 16, 2019, 09:03:39 PM
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2019, 09:15:20 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2019, 09:15:20 PM
Then I hope your electorate does what is right.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Even if the Conservatives win the most seats, but not a majority, Trudeau remains as pm. The Tories have nobody to form a coalition with. Trudeau will be propped up by one of our many far left parties.
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Bricktop on August 16, 2019, 10:06:04 PM
Post by: Bricktop on August 16, 2019, 10:06:04 PM
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2019, 10:07:19 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2019, 10:07:19 PM
Sounds like a gerrymander.Quote from: "Bricktop"
It's just the parliamentary system. In a hard left leaning country like this one, the Tories have no allies.
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2019, 10:47:40 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2019, 10:47:40 PM
Then I hope your electorate does what is right.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Even if the Conservatives win the most seats, but not a majority, Trudeau remains as pm. The Tories have nobody to form a coalition with. Trudeau will be propped up by one of our many far left parties.
A Tory minority could be worse than a Liberal majority.
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2019, 12:40:01 AM
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2019, 12:40:01 AM
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Odinson on August 17, 2019, 12:50:35 AM
Post by: Odinson on August 17, 2019, 12:50:35 AM
Is Yuri a russian name or korean, japanese name?
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: sasquatch on August 17, 2019, 01:19:03 AM
Post by: sasquatch on August 17, 2019, 01:19:03 AM
Then I hope your electorate does what is right.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Even if the Conservatives win the most seats, but not a majority, Trudeau remains as pm. The Tories have nobody to form a coalition with. Trudeau will be propped up by one of our many far left parties.
A Tory minority could be worse than a Liberal majority.
True. It could be the same situation as what happened with BC when the liberals won the most seats, but the NDP were anle to take over thanks to the green party. The same could happen for Trudeau where the CPC wins a minority, but the NDP and bloc form a coalition and put idiot back into the pm's chair. the only way to prevent that is a CPC majority.
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2019, 01:25:31 AM
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2019, 01:25:31 AM
I´ve been wondering..Quote from: "Odinson"
Is Yuri a russian name or korean, japanese name?
Ri is pronounced EE in Korean and anglicized as Lee.
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2019, 01:30:56 AM
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2019, 01:30:56 AM
Then I hope your electorate does what is right.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Even if the Conservatives win the most seats, but not a majority, Trudeau remains as pm. The Tories have nobody to form a coalition with. Trudeau will be propped up by one of our many far left parties.
A Tory minority could be worse than a Liberal majority.
True. It could be the same situation as what happened with BC when the liberals won the most seats, but the NDP were anle to take over thanks to the green party. The same could happen for Trudeau where the CPC wins a minority, but the NDP and bloc form a coalition and put idiot back into the pm's chair. the only way to prevent that is a CPC majority.
The NDP is broke, so they will prop up Trudeau as long as they can. The only acceptable outcome on October 21 is a Tory majority. Sadly. that result is unlikely. Doug Ford's gutlessness is to blame. When he backs down from cuts it makes him look weak and the federal party is taking a hit in this vote rich province.
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2019, 10:25:57 AM
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2019, 10:25:57 AM
Then I hope your electorate does what is right.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Even if the Conservatives win the most seats, but not a majority, Trudeau remains as pm. The Tories have nobody to form a coalition with. Trudeau will be propped up by one of our many far left parties.
A Tory minority could be worse than a Liberal majority.
True. It could be the same situation as what happened with BC when the liberals won the most seats, but the NDP were anle to take over thanks to the green party. The same could happen for Trudeau where the CPC wins a minority, but the NDP and bloc form a coalition and put idiot back into the pm's chair. the only way to prevent that is a CPC majority.
The NDP is broke, so they will prop up Trudeau as long as they can. The only acceptable outcome on October 21 is a Tory majority. Sadly. that result is unlikely. Doug Ford's gutlessness is to blame. When he backs down from cuts it makes him look weak and the federal party is taking a hit in this vote rich province.
I looked at some polling before the ethics guilty verdict and it was showing that the Liberals would win a minority government.
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2019, 10:43:54 AM
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2019, 10:43:54 AM
Then I hope your electorate does what is right.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Even if the Conservatives win the most seats, but not a majority, Trudeau remains as pm. The Tories have nobody to form a coalition with. Trudeau will be propped up by one of our many far left parties.
A Tory minority could be worse than a Liberal majority.
True. It could be the same situation as what happened with BC when the liberals won the most seats, but the NDP were anle to take over thanks to the green party. The same could happen for Trudeau where the CPC wins a minority, but the NDP and bloc form a coalition and put idiot back into the pm's chair. the only way to prevent that is a CPC majority.
The NDP is broke, so they will prop up Trudeau as long as they can. The only acceptable outcome on October 21 is a Tory majority. Sadly. that result is unlikely. Doug Ford's gutlessness is to blame. When he backs down from cuts it makes him look weak and the federal party is taking a hit in this vote rich province.
The Conservatives had a solid lead in Ontario not that long ago too. Canada is screwed if we get anything other than a Tory majority. So, I guess we are screwed.
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2019, 12:38:37 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2019, 12:38:37 PM
The Conservatives had a solid lead in Ontario not that long ago too. Canada is screwed if we get anything other than a Tory majority. So, I guess we are screwed.
I hate to say it, but we would be better off if Kathleen Wynn was still in power, at least until after the federal election. That would guarantee a Tory majority.
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2019, 03:50:13 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2019, 03:50:13 PM
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Anonymous on August 18, 2019, 12:13:31 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 18, 2019, 12:13:31 PM
I really want to fire Trudeau.Quote from: "Velvet"
If he gets to keep his job, you can blame the voters in my province.
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Anonymous on August 18, 2019, 12:36:15 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 18, 2019, 12:36:15 PM
By Anthony Furey of Sun News Media
The latest developments in Lavscam are very bad indeed. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has been found to have violated the Conflict of Interest Act. We've now gone from the realm of political messaging into the realm of lawbreaking.
There are those engaged in wordplay about how this isn't a real law and it doesn't come with major consequences so it's no big deal. It's true that the Conflict of Interest Act isn't part of the Criminal Code. But if you think it's not a real law, well, all you need to know is that if you want to read the act online you've got to do it at . It's a law.
Deep down though, everyone following this saga knows this already. They know things are bad. It just looks like we're at the point in this affair where it doesn't matter if people truly understand the legal nuts and bolts because their opinions are already set.
Those in the conservative camp and centre-right swing voters were already frowning on Trudeau. Meanwhile, Trudeau's defenders are digging in their heels. It's this latter camp where things could become interesting between now and the election.
One of the main defences of Trudeau right now has nothing to do with the details of Lavscam. It's simply that they've got to rally behind their guy to save the country from that scary Andrew Scheer.
This perspective was well-articulated on social media in a popular post by documentary film producer Stuart Henderson. "I think it's bad that the Liberals were bad on the Snc-lavalin affair," he writes. "However, when compared to the idea of a Conservative government accelerating ecological armageddon while turning its back on the least privileged among us, I simply don't care at all about l'affaire SNC.
"So I'm going to reserve the right to be moderately irritated about Snc-lavalin, while retaining my sincere outrage for the Doug Fords, Jason Kenneys, and Andrew Scheers of the political world," Henderson continues. "Their regressive policies are the only thing that matters to me come voting day."
Let's call this The Dark Knight thesis of Canadian politics. It posits that Trudeau and Scheer are the Joker and Batman. Two diametrically opposed forces — one trying to burn everything down and the other the last bulwark keeping civilization intact. And who plays what role? That depends on your politics. It works both ways.
What makes this even more of a showdown is that Trudeau and Scheer are locked in stalemate. Polls have consistently shown that the two are tied in voter supporter. They both have diehard fans as well as passionate detractors. Their attacks against each other are already set and ready to go.
Progressives are clinging to Trudeau like a thrice fooled lover clings to their lying, cheating partner one last time before the inevitable break-up. They need it to work out now more than ever before. Because if it doesn't, they'll look ever more the dupe for going along with it this far. Once the split comes though, it'll be big and it'll be messy.
White knight
Can Jagmeet Singh cause progressives to split with their white knight, by either getting them to return their support to the party of Jack Layton or at least having them throw up their hands and stay home in frustration? Right now it looks like the answer is no. Both because Singh has so far failed to be an inspiration and because of what Henderson posts about — a deep rooted (and irrational) fear of Andrew Scheer that leaves progressive not wanting to divide their votes among Liberal and NDP.
If there is such a split, it'll come around the time of the debates — when Singh and Trudeau are sharing a stage together.
That's because the PM currently presents himself as the one true defender of virtue on the Canadian political scene — he is the feminist champion, he is the man who keeps us safe from intolerance and racism. He pretends as if there is no NDP, the party that has traditionally been the dominant player on these issues.
That's his shtick and it's amazing he's gotten away with it for this long. Yes, the Conservatives denounce Trudeau as a fake feminist, but that does little to harm the PM in the eyes of progressives who think of conservatives using old fashioned stereotypes. They're not going to take Scheer's word on what constitutes a real feminist.
You know who could call out Trudeau on this front and have it really pack a punch though? Jagmeet Singh.
The question is whether he gets ready for prime-time soon enough to seize the moment and get the job done. It would be a powerful image to see Singh chuckle at our privileged white male PM as he claims to be the defender of all things progressive. It would also be a difficult one for centre-left voters to dismiss.
There still seems to be this idea among progressives that Trudeau, despite how many times he's betrayed them, is worth going back to. That he's their guy. If anyone's going to convince them otherwise, it's Singh.
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Anonymous on August 18, 2019, 12:52:43 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 18, 2019, 12:52:43 PM
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Anonymous on August 18, 2019, 12:55:19 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 18, 2019, 12:55:19 PM
Surprise, surprise, the ethics commissioner's report stated that Justin Trudeau breached Canada's ethics rules and Jody Wilson-Raybould. Trudeau's reward to her for being ethical and telling the truth was to fire her. This is the same Trudeau that has stated many times that it is time for women to speak up, be heard and be believed. Some in the media have already jumped to his defence and bought his story about how he was protecting Canadian jobs. Let's look at these jobs he is so called protecting. Are these jobs going to disappear if SNC is found guilty? No, they will not disappear, as the work will still have to be done but by a firm other than SNC. What is at stake is SNC'S stranglehold on lucrative government contracts. There is also the fact that SNC is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, contributor to the Liberal Party of Canada. Trudeau appears to be more focused on protecting a Liberal benefactor than protecting jobs. The jobs angle is nothing more than a smokescreen. If Trudeau is so concerned about Canadian jobs, where was he when thousands of jobs disappeared in Alberta?Quote from: "Shen Li"
This was never about jobs. This is entirely about a corporation with ties to a corrupt government.
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: sasquatch on August 19, 2019, 02:25:06 AM
Post by: sasquatch on August 19, 2019, 02:25:06 AM
Surprise, surprise, the ethics commissioner's report stated that Justin Trudeau breached Canada's ethics rules and Jody Wilson-Raybould. Trudeau's reward to her for being ethical and telling the truth was to fire her. This is the same Trudeau that has stated many times that it is time for women to speak up, be heard and be believed. Some in the media have already jumped to his defence and bought his story about how he was protecting Canadian jobs. Let's look at these jobs he is so called protecting. Are these jobs going to disappear if SNC is found guilty? No, they will not disappear, as the work will still have to be done but by a firm other than SNC. What is at stake is SNC'S stranglehold on lucrative government contracts. There is also the fact that SNC is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, contributor to the Liberal Party of Canada. Trudeau appears to be more focused on protecting a Liberal benefactor than protecting jobs. The jobs angle is nothing more than a smokescreen. If Trudeau is so concerned about Canadian jobs, where was he when thousands of jobs disappeared in Alberta?Quote from: "Shen Li"
This was never about jobs. This is entirely about a corporation with ties to a corrupt government.
Yep. that pretty much sums it up. If they are so worried to break the law to protect 9000 jobs, why did it create new ones to prevent 100 000 of them from ever being seen again,right?
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2019, 05:13:16 AM
Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2019, 05:13:16 AM
Surprise, surprise, the ethics commissioner's report stated that Justin Trudeau breached Canada's ethics rules and Jody Wilson-Raybould. Trudeau's reward to her for being ethical and telling the truth was to fire her. This is the same Trudeau that has stated many times that it is time for women to speak up, be heard and be believed. Some in the media have already jumped to his defence and bought his story about how he was protecting Canadian jobs. Let's look at these jobs he is so called protecting. Are these jobs going to disappear if SNC is found guilty? No, they will not disappear, as the work will still have to be done but by a firm other than SNC. What is at stake is SNC'S stranglehold on lucrative government contracts. There is also the fact that SNC is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, contributor to the Liberal Party of Canada. Trudeau appears to be more focused on protecting a Liberal benefactor than protecting jobs. The jobs angle is nothing more than a smokescreen. If Trudeau is so concerned about Canadian jobs, where was he when thousands of jobs disappeared in Alberta?Quote from: "Shen Li"
This was never about jobs. This is entirely about a corporation with ties to a corrupt government.
Yep. that pretty much sums it up. If they are so worried to break the law to protect 9000 jobs, why did it create new ones to prevent 100 000 of them from ever being seen again,right?
I read those jobs were never really at stake.
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2019, 10:00:52 AM
Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2019, 10:00:52 AM
Surprise, surprise, the ethics commissioner's report stated that Justin Trudeau breached Canada's ethics rules and Jody Wilson-Raybould. Trudeau's reward to her for being ethical and telling the truth was to fire her. This is the same Trudeau that has stated many times that it is time for women to speak up, be heard and be believed. Some in the media have already jumped to his defence and bought his story about how he was protecting Canadian jobs. Let's look at these jobs he is so called protecting. Are these jobs going to disappear if SNC is found guilty? No, they will not disappear, as the work will still have to be done but by a firm other than SNC. What is at stake is SNC'S stranglehold on lucrative government contracts. There is also the fact that SNC is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, contributor to the Liberal Party of Canada. Trudeau appears to be more focused on protecting a Liberal benefactor than protecting jobs. The jobs angle is nothing more than a smokescreen. If Trudeau is so concerned about Canadian jobs, where was he when thousands of jobs disappeared in Alberta?Quote from: "Shen Li"
This was never about jobs. This is entirely about a corporation with ties to a corrupt government.
Yep. that pretty much sums it up. If they are so worried to break the law to protect 9000 jobs, why did it create new ones to prevent 100 000 of them from ever being seen again,right?
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: sasquatch on August 19, 2019, 12:55:43 PM
Post by: sasquatch on August 19, 2019, 12:55:43 PM
Surprise, surprise, the ethics commissioner's report stated that Justin Trudeau breached Canada's ethics rules and Jody Wilson-Raybould. Trudeau's reward to her for being ethical and telling the truth was to fire her. This is the same Trudeau that has stated many times that it is time for women to speak up, be heard and be believed. Some in the media have already jumped to his defence and bought his story about how he was protecting Canadian jobs. Let's look at these jobs he is so called protecting. Are these jobs going to disappear if SNC is found guilty? No, they will not disappear, as the work will still have to be done but by a firm other than SNC. What is at stake is SNC'S stranglehold on lucrative government contracts. There is also the fact that SNC is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, contributor to the Liberal Party of Canada. Trudeau appears to be more focused on protecting a Liberal benefactor than protecting jobs. The jobs angle is nothing more than a smokescreen. If Trudeau is so concerned about Canadian jobs, where was he when thousands of jobs disappeared in Alberta?Quote from: "Shen Li"
This was never about jobs. This is entirely about a corporation with ties to a corrupt government.
Yep. that pretty much sums it up. If they are so worried to break the law to protect 9000 jobs, why did it create new ones to prevent 100 000 of them from ever being seen again,right?
I read those jobs were never really at stake.
you read correctly.
the CEO of SNC-lavelin has put a dampener on that lie. Seolbro pretty much summed it up.
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2019, 01:36:40 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2019, 01:36:40 PM
Surprise, surprise, the ethics commissioner's report stated that Justin Trudeau breached Canada's ethics rules and Jody Wilson-Raybould. Trudeau's reward to her for being ethical and telling the truth was to fire her. This is the same Trudeau that has stated many times that it is time for women to speak up, be heard and be believed. Some in the media have already jumped to his defence and bought his story about how he was protecting Canadian jobs. Let's look at these jobs he is so called protecting. Are these jobs going to disappear if SNC is found guilty? No, they will not disappear, as the work will still have to be done but by a firm other than SNC. What is at stake is SNC'S stranglehold on lucrative government contracts. There is also the fact that SNC is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, contributor to the Liberal Party of Canada. Trudeau appears to be more focused on protecting a Liberal benefactor than protecting jobs. The jobs angle is nothing more than a smokescreen. If Trudeau is so concerned about Canadian jobs, where was he when thousands of jobs disappeared in Alberta?Quote from: "Shen Li"
This was never about jobs. This is entirely about a corporation with ties to a corrupt government.
Yep. that pretty much sums it up. If they are so worried to break the law to protect 9000 jobs, why did it create new ones to prevent 100 000 of them from ever being seen again,right?
I read those jobs were never really at stake.
you read correctly.https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/snc-lavalin-neil-bruce-1.5064432
the CEO of SNC-lavelin has put a dampener on that lie. Seolbro pretty much summed it up.
Trideau lied.
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2019, 06:28:09 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2019, 06:28:09 PM
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Anonymous on August 21, 2019, 08:46:40 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 21, 2019, 08:46:40 PM
Liberals on the House of Commons ethics committee have blocked a push by the opposition members to get the ethics commissioner to testify about his scathing report on the SNC-Lavalin scandal.
In a vote of 5-4 on Wednesday, five Liberal MPs voted down a motion supported by the Conservative and NDP members — as well as wildcard Liberal MP Nathaniel Erskine-Smith — that asked for the committee to invite Ethics Commissioner Mario Dion to answer questions about the conclusions of his report last week which determined Prime Minister Justin Trudeau broke federal ethics rules by interfering in the Quebec firm's court case.
The defeat came after the committee heard Dion was standing by to speak to them immediately if they so wished.
Liberals Steve MacKinnon, Mona Fortier, Michel Picard, Frank Baylis and Anita Vandenbeld — who was herself found last month by Dion to have broken federal ethics rules — voted against the motion to invite the watchdog.
Liberal Nathaniel Erskine-Smith, Conservatives Lisa Raitt and Peter Kent, and the NDP's Charlie Angus supported the motion.
And he'll get away with it and the people in my province will elect him a second time.
Title: Re: Trudeau believes the greatest public good is his reelection at any price
Post by: Anonymous on August 21, 2019, 09:29:50 PM
Post by: Anonymous on August 21, 2019, 09:29:50 PM
