Article*: 7 attitudes that make liberals so intolerable

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There are perfectly nice, likable, relatively reasonable (at least when it comes to their own lives) liberals out there. I've met them and genuinely like some of them. 
But liberalism is becoming
1) 
They don't care whether the ideas they propose work or not, but they do care a great deal about how those policies make them feel and look to other people. As an example, a program aimed at helping the poor is judged by how compassionate it makes liberals feel and how well it does at the polls, not whether it actually helps poor people. When you are dealing with modern liberals, you are dealing with people who simply don't care if a policy makes the country better or worse. 
2)
Every little thing that offends is "white supremacy," "Nazism," or "another Holocaust." Angry, hyper-sensitive liberals that can't tolerate free thought aren't just miserable people, their intolerance makes everyone forced to deal with them miserable as well. 
3)
Liberalism is a 16-year-old girl lecturing everyone on global warming, a not particularly bright 29-year-old bartender from Queens explaining how we need to redesign our entire economy, and a president lying about every facet of an overhaul of our healthcare system and then acting like it was all for our own good when all of his lies were exposed.
 It's people with no morals that are absolutely sure that they are morally superior to everyone else, intellectuals that couldn't handle running a third shift at a convenience store that believe they're smarter than everyone else, and people who are absolutely obsessed with race calling everyone else racists. 
			 
			
			
				4) 
They seldom stop to consider the potential consequences of policies they suggest and then focus on shifting the blame when things go wrong instead of wondering if they did the right thing to begin with. We live in a world where every liberal college graduate still living with their parents thinks they are smarter than Plato and Thomas Jefferson because some political science professor who couldn't hack it in the real world told them so. 
Without the ability to appreciate the wisdom of previous generations, liberals tend to be "change for the sake of change" junkies who can never get enough of their fix. 
5) 
If people actually believed the rhetoric liberals habitually use to describe ICE, the police, Trump voters, and conservatives in general, there SHOULD BE bloody war in the streets.
 One of the great ironies of politics today is that liberals are incessantly railing against "hate groups" while liberals have become the biggest hate group in America.
6) 
Liberalism has replaced God for the Left and like your annoyingly religious friend who just converted and over-enthusiastically ties every conversation back to some quote from the Old Testament, they tie everything to their political views. 
It makes them some of the most tedious people on earth to be around because everything they touch is just another opportunity for them to virtue signal to the world about how woke they are. 
7)
Liberalism is a guy taking an SUV to a private plane to fly to a conference to talk about how people shouldn't be allowed to fly or drive in SUVs because of global warming. 
It's a media personality claiming Russia decided the 2016 election while calling other people fake news.
 It's a politician surrounded by armed security all day demanding that we outlaw guns. 
It's spewing hate while calling other people hateful, talking about tolerance while being intolerant, and demanding one set of rules for liberals and one for everyone else.
 Conservatives are always amazed when they run across a liberal that holds liberals to the same standards as everyone else .. 
			
			
				I'll read it tonight cc.
			
			
			
				One hopes that cc is aware of Hawkins's rabid anti-marijuana stance.
			
			
			
				I have to read this and listen to KM's podcast.
			
			
			
				Nihilism..
These people were called nihilists in the 19th century.
			
			
			
				Just to say they are not a new phenomena..
Even though they might think they are "fresh air"..
			
			
			
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7)
Liberalism is a guy taking an SUV to a private plane to fly to a conference to talk about how people shouldn't be allowed to fly or drive in SUVs because of global warming. 
It's a media personality claiming Russia decided the 2016 election while calling other people fake news.
 It's a politician surrounded by armed security all day demanding that we outlaw guns. 
It's spewing hate while calling other people hateful, talking about tolerance while being intolerant, and demanding one set of rules for liberals and one for everyone else.
 Conservatives are always amazed when they run across a liberal that holds liberals to the same standards as everyone else .. 
Credibility progtards, get some.
			 
			
			
				Watch the video in particular. Old Piers is right, people are fed up with the culture of snowflakery.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2019/08/20/piers-morgan-todays-leftists-are-unbearable-n2551967
Piers Morgan: Today's Liberals Are 'Unbearable'
			
			
			
				Quote from: "cc"
They seldom stop to consider the potential consequences of policies they suggest and then focus on shifting the blame when things go wrong instead of wondering if they did the right thing to begin with. We live in a world where every liberal college graduate still living with their parents thinks they are smarter than Plato and Thomas Jefferson because some political science professor who couldn't hack it in the real world told them so. 
Without the ability to appreciate the wisdom of previous generations, liberals tend to be "change for the sake of change" junkies who can never get enough of their fix. 
5) 
If people actually believed the rhetoric liberals habitually use to describe ICE, the police, Trump voters, and conservatives in general, there SHOULD BE bloody war in the streets.
 One of the great ironies of politics today is that liberals are incessantly railing against "hate groups" while liberals have become the biggest hate group in America.
6) 
Liberalism has replaced God for the Left and like your annoyingly religious friend who just converted and over-enthusiastically ties every conversation back to some quote from the Old Testament, they tie everything to their political views. 
It makes them some of the most tedious people on earth to be around because everything they touch is just another opportunity for them to virtue signal to the world about how woke they are. 
7)
Liberalism is a guy taking an SUV to a private plane to fly to a conference to talk about how people shouldn't be allowed to fly or drive in SUVs because of global warming. 
It's a media personality claiming Russia decided the 2016 election while calling other people fake news.
 It's a politician surrounded by armed security all day demanding that we outlaw guns. 
It's spewing hate while calling other people hateful, talking about tolerance while being intolerant, and demanding one set of rules for liberals and one for everyone else.
 Conservatives are always amazed when they run across a liberal that holds liberals to the same standards as everyone else .. 
I read the entire article cc..
I can't argue with any of that and I grew up in a family that was active in traditional liberal politics in Taiwan.
			 
			
			
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What is the relevance of that remark?
As a progressive, would you not take the opportunity to rebut the points made?
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Peaches"
What is the relevance of that remark?
As a progressive, would you not take the opportunity to rebut the points made?
Nope, he can't do it hence the post you quoted.
			 
			
			
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I can't argue with any of that and I grew up in a family that was active in traditional liberal politics in Taiwan.
I think I may understand why?
Tolerance was traditionally at the very heart of liberalism
Today in so-called liberalism we see no tolerance .. and in fact, no heart
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Fash"
I can't argue with any of that and I grew up in a family that was active in traditional liberal politics in Taiwan.
I think I may understand why?
Tolerance was traditionally at the very heart of liberalism
Today in so-called liberalism we see no tolerance .. and in fact, no heart
My father would have labels for what passes for liberalism in 2019, but liberal wouldn't be one of them.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Peaches"
What is the relevance of that remark?
As a progressive, would you not take the opportunity to rebut the points made?
Why do you (and the rest of you lot) insist on pigeonholing me as a "progressive?"
The remark is merely an exercise in the kind of "reasoned discussion" so beloved by SB and others on this forum, namely to begin by tossing a random ad hominem at the source of the OPINION PIECE, lest it lead to one of those BC RWCJs you all seem to enjoy.
The relevance is that if you intend to lionize this hack as your RWCJ centerpiece, you have to take his warts along with his beauty spots.
There are some more warts, but more pertinent ones such as his fondness for the term "spewing hatred" and his mindless ironies about intolerance, smugness, the Constitution, taking comfort in lies and demonization, and "habitual hypocrisy" are simply not things I have the time nor the crayons to help you poor sods understand.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "cc"
Quote from: "Fash"
I can't argue with any of that and I grew up in a family that was active in traditional liberal politics in Taiwan.
I think I may understand why?
Tolerance was traditionally at the very heart of liberalism
Today in so-called liberalism we see no tolerance .. and in fact, no heart
My father would have labels for what passes for liberalism in 2019, but liberal wouldn't be one of them.
I too adhere to most tenets of traditional liberalism. Today's progressives represent a gross betrayal of liberalism.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "Bricktop"
Quote from: "Peaches"
What is the relevance of that remark?
As a progressive, would you not take the opportunity to rebut the points made?
Why do you (and the rest of you lot) insist on pigeonholing me as a "progressive?"
The remark is merely an exercise in the kind of "reasoned discussion" so beloved by SB and others on this forum, namely to begin by tossing a random ad hominem at the source of the OPINION PIECE, lest it lead to one of those BC RWCJs you all seem to enjoy.
The relevance is that if you intend to lionize this hack as your RWCJ centerpiece, you have to take his warts along with his beauty spots.
There are some more warts, but more pertinent ones such as his fondness for the term "spewing hatred" and his mindless ironies about intolerance, smugness, the Constitution, taking comfort in lies and demonization, and "habitual hypocrisy" are simply not things I have the time nor the crayons to help you poor sods understand.
I fail to see how his views on marijuana in any way taint or effect the points he's making on modern liberal/socialism. 
As the views and opinions you proffer, both here and elsewhere, put you firmly in the camp of the left, it seems logical that you may wish to offer a counter argument to the tenets of the OP.
Your failure to engage in debate over the writer's observations once again re-inforce the view from we on the right that the people on your side of the fence seem somewhat coy when the light of reasoned observation shines in your direction.
Modern liberalism is a farcical canker on Western nations.
			 
			
			
				I wonder if Peaches was ever a traditional liberal or he prefers the modern perversion of liberalism.
			
			
			
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Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "cc"
Quote from: "Fash"
I can't argue with any of that and I grew up in a family that was active in traditional liberal politics in Taiwan.
I think I may understand why?
Tolerance was traditionally at the very heart of liberalism
Today in so-called liberalism we see no tolerance .. and in fact, no heart
My father would have labels for what passes for liberalism in 2019, but liberal wouldn't be one of them.
I too adhere to most tenets of traditional liberalism. Today's progressives represent a gross betrayal of liberalism.
iron horse jockey has said that progressives are not socialists..
I would say they are not liberals either.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "cc"
Quote from: "Fash"
I can't argue with any of that and I grew up in a family that was active in traditional liberal politics in Taiwan.
I think I may understand why?
Tolerance was traditionally at the very heart of liberalism
Today in so-called liberalism we see no tolerance .. and in fact, no heart
My father would have labels for what passes for liberalism in 2019, but liberal wouldn't be one of them.
I too adhere to most tenets of traditional liberalism. Today's progressives represent a gross betrayal of liberalism.
iron horse jockey has said that progressives are not socialists..
I would say they are not liberals either.
You are both right. Today's liberals and socialists have been usurped by progtard money and power. A betrayal of socialism and liberalism.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "cc"
Quote from: "Fash"
I can't argue with any of that and I grew up in a family that was active in traditional liberal politics in Taiwan.
I think I may understand why?
Tolerance was traditionally at the very heart of liberalism
Today in so-called liberalism we see no tolerance .. and in fact, no heart
My father would have labels for what passes for liberalism in 2019, but liberal wouldn't be one of them.
I too adhere to most tenets of traditional liberalism. Today's progressives represent a gross betrayal of liberalism.
iron horse jockey has said that progressives are not socialists..
I would say they are not liberals either.
You are both right. Today's liberals and socialists have been usurped by progtard money and power. A betrayal of socialism and liberalism.
Do liberals and socialists actually exist anymore? Not in North America obviously. But, is there a place left in the civilized world where those two ideologies have not beeb bought and distorted by prog money.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "cc"
Quote from: "Fash"
I can't argue with any of that and I grew up in a family that was active in traditional liberal politics in Taiwan.
I think I may understand why?
Tolerance was traditionally at the very heart of liberalism
Today in so-called liberalism we see no tolerance .. and in fact, no heart
My father would have labels for what passes for liberalism in 2019, but liberal wouldn't be one of them.
I too adhere to most tenets of traditional liberalism. Today's progressives represent a gross betrayal of liberalism.
iron horse jockey has said that progressives are not socialists..
I would say they are not liberals either.
You are both right. Today's liberals and socialists have been usurped by progtard money and power. A betrayal of socialism and liberalism.
Do liberals and socialists actually exist anymore? Not in North America obviously. But, is there a place left in the civilized world where those two ideologies have not been bought and distorted by prog money.
 ac_dunno
			 
			
			
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Surely you must recall that we've had this conversation previously, and even successfully navigated our way around your tricky language.
But it scarcely matters, due to the paradigm shifts imposed on reality by corporatization -- as I've also pointed out.
			 
			
			
				Really good article CC, I agree with it all. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h97kbv4mbsc
			
			
			
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Quote from: "seoulbro"
Surely you must recall that we've had this conversation previously, and even successfully navigated our way around your tricky language.
But it scarcely matters, due to the paradigm shifts imposed on reality by corporatization -- as I've also pointed out.
In other words, you were never comfortable with liberalism until it was hijacked by billionaires and rebranded as progessive.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Surely you must recall that we've had this conversation previously, and even successfully navigated our way around your tricky language.
But it scarcely matters, due to the paradigm shifts imposed on reality by corporatization -- as I've also pointed out.
In other words, you were never comfortable with liberalism until it was hijacked by billionaires and rebranded as progessive.
I don't know what you're smoking, but you oughta stick with alcohol.  At least people can sort of tell what you're talking about.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Blazor"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h97kbv4mbsc
lol, that's cute Blazor..
Unfortunately, real liberals like my father didn't make a stand.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Surely you must recall that we've had this conversation previously, and even successfully navigated our way around your tricky language.
But it scarcely matters, due to the paradigm shifts imposed on reality by corporatization -- as I've also pointed out.
In other words, you were never comfortable with liberalism until it was hijacked by billionaires and rebranded as progessive.
I don't know what you're smoking, but you oughta stick with alcohol.  At least people can sort of tell what you're talking about.
There's not understanding 
and there's not wanting to understand
and then there's deliberate ad hom
All are not mutually exclusive
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Blazor"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h97kbv4mbsc
lol, that's cute Blazor..
Unfortunately, real liberals like my father didn't make a stand.
Yes, I know. Traditional liberals have been forced into extinction.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "cc"
There's not understanding 
and there's not wanting to understand
and then there's deliberate ad hom
All are not mutually exclusive
Nor are they mutually INclusive.
Yet all are common currency in political discussions here, as I've learned over time.  And you didn't mention the worst of them, the two most in evidence here -- namely the putting of words into another's mouth and the mislabeling of another's positions without evidence.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "cc"
There's not understanding 
and there's not wanting to understand
and then there's deliberate ad hom
All are not mutually exclusive
Nor are they mutually INclusive.
Yet all are common currency in political discussions here, as I've learned over time.  And you didn't mention the worst of them, the two most in evidence here -- namely the putting of words into another's mouth and the mislabeling of another's positions without evidence.
You got us confused with SG. Most of us will read a position and pick it apart. It's that halfwit Lotusbutt who calls people who disagree with her ideology sexual predators or incels.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Surely you must recall that we've had this conversation previously, and even successfully navigated our way around your tricky language.
But it scarcely matters, due to the paradigm shifts imposed on reality by corporatization -- as I've also pointed out.
In other words, you were never comfortable with liberalism until it was hijacked by billionaires and rebranded as progessive.
Prog money stole socialism from us too. Eco-hypocrites took over our movement, our unions, send our "dirty" jobs overseas and tell us they are saving the planet. :001_rolleyes:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "cc"
There's not understanding 
and there's not wanting to understand
and then there's deliberate ad hom
All are not mutually exclusive
Nor are they mutually INclusive.
Yet all are common currency in political discussions here, as I've learned over time.  And you didn't mention the worst of them, the two most in evidence here -- namely the putting of words into another's mouth and the mislabeling of another's positions without evidence.
You got us confused with SG. Most of us will read a position and pick it apart. It's that halfwit Lotusbutt who calls people who disagree with her ideology sexual predators or incels.
I agree, Lotus would be quite at home here.  She's remarkably unfazed by being the only progressive in the room, and will kick your asses any way she can.
However, I'm not confusing any of you with her.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "cc"
There's not understanding 
and there's not wanting to understand
and then there's deliberate ad hom
All are not mutually exclusive
Nor are they mutually INclusive.
Yet all are common currency in political discussions here, as I've learned over time.  And you didn't mention the worst of them, the two most in evidence here -- namely the putting of words into another's mouth and the mislabeling of another's positions without evidence.
You got us confused with SG. Most of us will read a position and pick it apart. It's that halfwit Lotusbutt who calls people who disagree with her ideology sexual predators or incels.
I agree, Lotus would be quite at home here.  She's remarkably unfazed by being the only progressive in the room, and will kick your asses any way she can.
However, I'm not confusing any of you with her.
And you were just complaining in this very thread about people putting words in your mouth. :laugh3: 
Look, I think that locustbutt has to be a troll. Either that or the biggest prog money shill I've ever seen. No knowledge of issues that affect working people and it would prefer to keep it that way. Non rich progtards are incels and perberts at the same time. What a fantastic contributor. :crazy:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Herman"
And you were just complaining in this very thread about people putting words in your mouth. :laugh3: 
Look, I think that locustbutt has to be a troll. Either that or the biggest prog money shill I've ever seen. No knowledge of issues that affect working people and it would prefer to keep it that way. Non rich progtards are incels and perberts at the same time. What a fantastic contributor. :crazy:
I'm fairly certain Lotusbud is registered here under the handle of The Gist..
I don't usually post in the Politics section at SG..
It's like a Jerry Springer episode and Lotusbud is a continuing guest..
I'm not partisan, but there are issues that affect families like mine that I'm very interested in..
Lotusbud really lowers the quality of discussions with constant ad hom spam threads against her partisan opponents..
But, that's what passes for political discussions in North America these days......not that Taiwan is much above this juvenile partisan bickering.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Herman"
And you were just complaining in this very thread about people putting words in your mouth. :laugh3: 
Look, I think that locustbutt has to be a troll. Either that or the biggest prog money shill I've ever seen. No knowledge of issues that affect working people and it would prefer to keep it that way. Non rich progtards are incels and perberts at the same time. What a fantastic contributor. :crazy:
I'm fairly certain Lotusbud is registered here under the handle of The Gist..
I don't usually post in the Politics section at SG..
It's like a Jerry Springer episode and Lotusbud is a continuing guest..
I'm not partisan, but there are issues that affect families like mine that I'm very interested in..
Lotusbud really lowers the quality of discussions with constant ad hom spam threads against her partisan opponents..
But, that's what passes for political discussions in North America these days......not that Taiwan is much above this juvenile partisan bickering.
Sounds like RW.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Herman"
And you were just complaining in this very thread about people putting words in your mouth. :laugh3: 
Look, I think that locustbutt has to be a troll. Either that or the biggest prog money shill I've ever seen. No knowledge of issues that affect working people and it would prefer to keep it that way. Non rich progtards are incels and perberts at the same time. What a fantastic contributor. :crazy:
I'm fairly certain Lotusbud is registered here under the handle of The Gist..
I don't usually post in the Politics section at SG..
It's like a Jerry Springer episode and Lotusbud is a continuing guest..
I'm not partisan, but there are issues that affect families like mine that I'm very interested in..
Lotusbud really lowers the quality of discussions with constant ad hom spam threads against her partisan opponents..
But, that's what passes for political discussions in North America these days......not that Taiwan is much above this juvenile partisan bickering.
Sounds like RW.
I didn't mind RW when we debated bread and butter issues. I always supported markets solutions to problems and she always supported government intervention. It was great. Where she lost some of her rationality was on social issues. I often agreed with RW on social issues, but she did herself no favours by arguing with the likes of Scouse or iron horse jockey.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Herman"
And you were just complaining in this very thread about people putting words in your mouth. :laugh3: 
Look, I think that locustbutt has to be a troll. Either that or the biggest prog money shill I've ever seen. No knowledge of issues that affect working people and it would prefer to keep it that way. Non rich progtards are incels and perberts at the same time. What a fantastic contributor. :crazy:
I'm fairly certain Lotusbud is registered here under the handle of The Gist..
I don't usually post in the Politics section at SG..
It's like a Jerry Springer episode and Lotusbud is a continuing guest..
I'm not partisan, but there are issues that affect families like mine that I'm very interested in..
Lotusbud really lowers the quality of discussions with constant ad hom spam threads against her partisan opponents..
But, that's what passes for political discussions in North America these days......not that Taiwan is much above this juvenile partisan bickering.
Sounds like RW.
The person I posted about is no RW..
As Seoul posted, RW could support why she takes certain sides on issues, Lotusbud appears incapable of doing that.
			 
			
			
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Quote from: "Herman"
It's like a Jerry Springer episode and Lotusbud is a continuing guest..
 :MG_216:
			 
			
			
				RW and Lotusbud despised each other.
			
			
			
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Lotusbud makes it difficult for people to like her..
She may not even be aware that she is doing that.
			 
			
			
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Lotusbud makes it difficult for people to like her..
She may not even be aware that she is doing that.
Lotusbud is female?
			 
			
			
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Now that's lethal.
 :laugh3:
			 
			
			
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Lotusbud makes it difficult for people to like her..
She may not even be aware that she is doing that.
Lotusbud is female?
I think so. A mindless shill for prog billionaires.