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Title: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: Anonymous on August 28, 2019, 08:06:21 PM
Progtards fill the alarmist ranks and progtards are as phony as a three dollar bill.



https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0272494418301488#!

Highlights



We conducted a one-year longitudinal study of 600 Americans' climate beliefs.





Cluster analyses found three distinct groups based on climate belief trajectories.





Climate change believers were most likely to endorse federal climate policies.





Climate change skeptics were most likely to report pro-environmental behavior.



We conducted a one-year longitudinal study in which 600 American adults regularly reported their climate change beliefs, pro-environmental behavior, and other climate-change related measures. Using latent class analyses, we uncovered three clusters of Americans with distinct climate belief trajectories: (1) the "Skeptical," who believed least in climate change; (2) the "Cautiously Worried," who had moderate beliefs in climate change; and (3) the "Highly Concerned," who had the strongest beliefs and concern about climate change. Cluster membership predicted different outcomes: the "Highly Concerned" were most supportive of government climate policies, but least likely to report individual-level actions, whereas the "Skeptical" opposed policy solutions but were most likely to report engaging in individual-level pro-environmental behaviors. Implications for theory and practice are discussed.
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: Anonymous on August 28, 2019, 08:28:19 PM
The old lady and I are not alarmists. But, compared to loud mouth progtards, we are true environmentalists. We waste nothing and try to get everything in one trip when we head into town.



https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/04/environmental-hypocrites-of-the-left/

One reason conservatives do not engage is that environmentalism has become synonymous with horrible government policy. Every Earth Day, we are treated to theatrical images of marches featuring unhinged activists demanding action on a range of environmental issues. Clever hashtags are generated. Alarmist slogans are flaunted. Naked people glue themselves to park benches. And all who disagree with the demands for more government power are denigrated as "deniers."



The other 364 days of the year, however, people on the left do little in their daily lives to justify all that environmental browbeating. A study by researchers at the University of Michigan and Cornell University found that those who are "highly concerned" about climate change are "least likely to report individual-level actions" to reduce their environmental impact. Those who considered themselves "skeptical" of climate change "were most likely to report engaging in individual-level pro-environmental behaviors." To be sure, not all conservatives are skeptical of climate change, but generally, we aren't nearly as alarmist about climate change or other environmental issues, even when we recognize the risk.



That gap between the Left's loud talk and their unwillingness to make personal sacrifices is not an accident. It is now part of their dogma. Individual actions are mere "bollocks," useless gestures. Only the sacrifices made by others will make a difference.



This dichotomy is evident in my home state of Washington, where politicians pride themselves on showing "leadership" in the effort to reduce carbon dioxide emissions. This year, our legislature enacted a law requiring the state to meet a 100 percent renewable-energy target by 2045. Environmental activists tweeted their support, saying they "demand action now" and worrying about the climate crisis.



Ironically, though, many who demand action do little of it themselves. For only a few dollars a month, anyone who supports renewable energy can already buy renewable-energy credits (RECs), ensuring that there is enough renewable energy on the grid to cover their personal use. I asked one politician pushing for the 100 percent–renewable requirement if she buys RECs to cover her environmental impact. She admitted that she does not and has no plans to do so.





This is consistent with the message of Monbiot and political leaders pushing the Green New Deal. Personal sacrifice is of little consequence, so why even try? Even as they call for an end to air travel, politicians who demand we impose lifestyle change have not curtailed their own carbon-producing travel, despite living in the era of HD video conferencing.



The most effective environmental efforts are often small, personal actions in which people have skin in the game. Farmers find ways to conserve water because waste costs money. Aluminum cans are lighter today because it saves resources and they cost less to ship. Homeowners and businesses conserve energy because they pay the price for every kilowatt-hour. When they don't save, they change course, unlike politicians who fear public embarrassment and throw good money after bad.



This isn't just a theory. The amount of energy per unit of GDP in the United States has fallen steadily for several decades. There are no sharp drops. Instead, the improvement is gradual and constant, as individuals and businesses find ways to squeeze a bit more out of their energy use. Politicians can lecture all they want, but these are truly the front lines of environmental stewardship.



As Earth Day 2019 came and went, the pattern of environmentalists demanding action that they themselves won't take predictably repeated itself.



The pattern of conservatives' avoiding talk of environmental stewardship even as they live it every day, however, is a pattern we should break. Effective environmental policy doesn't start with politicians and publicity stunts. Conservatives understand this. We should make it clear that personal environmental stewardship is not only more effective, it is a more moral way to live.
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: Anonymous on August 28, 2019, 08:47:16 PM
I would never attend a church that had a pastor who was unfaithful to his wife..



He must have credibility..



Alarmists are not living like climate change is an existential threat.
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: Anonymous on August 28, 2019, 09:25:15 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"I would never attend a church that had a pastor who was unfaithful to his wife..



He must have credibility..



Alarmists are not living like climate change is an existential threat.

That is an interesting analogy.
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: Anonymous on August 29, 2019, 09:18:45 AM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Fashionista"I would never attend a church that had a pastor who was unfaithful to his wife..



He must have credibility..



Alarmists are not living like climate change is an existential threat.

That is an interesting analogy.

It's about credibility..



How can anyone take Leonardo DiCaprio or Al Gore seriously when they tell us we must change and they are not making any sacrifices.
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: Anonymous on August 29, 2019, 11:02:47 AM
Millennials say they are very worried about climate change, but they want other people to fix it. No personal sacrifices for them.
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: Anonymous on August 29, 2019, 10:20:01 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"Millennials say they are very worried about climate change, but they want other people to fix it. No personal sacrifices for them.

In other words, they are like Hollywood celebrities.
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: Anonymous on August 29, 2019, 11:46:00 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "seoulbro"Millennials say they are very worried about climate change, but they want other people to fix it. No personal sacrifices for them.

In other words, they are like Hollywood celebrities.

With a safe space.
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: Anonymous on August 30, 2019, 02:13:59 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"Millennials say they are very worried about climate change, but they want other people to fix it. No personal sacrifices for them.

Other than our regular travel, my wife and I live minimalist lives.
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: cc on August 30, 2019, 03:48:34 PM
Here's a goody!!



This Greta chic did Atlantic in 100% green craft .. and they make a biggy of it .. Oh, and she refuses to fly at all



Catch is.. and they are not making a biggy of this part .. they are flying a crew in a pollutant  spewing airplane to get it back



 :D



GRETA THUNBERG'S BOAT TO BE BROUGHT BACK BY SAILING TEAM FLYING TWO CREW TO THE US (//https)
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: Anonymous on August 30, 2019, 04:17:28 PM
Quote from: "cc"Here's a goody!!



This Greta chic did Atlantic in 100% green craft .. and they make a biggy of it .. Oh, and she refuses to fly at all



Catch is.. and they are not making a biggy of this part .. they are flying a crew in a pollutant  spewing airplane to get it back



 :D



GRETA THUNBERG'S BOAT TO BE BROUGHT BACK BY SAILING TEAM FLYING TWO CREW TO THE US (//https)

Which rich progtards are paying for this scam.
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: cc on August 30, 2019, 04:20:15 PM
Dunno. Another enviro-scam
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: Anonymous on August 30, 2019, 04:54:24 PM
Quote from: "cc"Dunno. Another enviro-scam

It is a scam, no question about that. And it costs a lot of money.
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: Gaon on August 30, 2019, 05:49:45 PM
Quote from: "Herman"Progtards fill the alarmist ranks and progtards are as phony as a three dollar bill.



https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0272494418301488#!

Highlights



We conducted a one-year longitudinal study of 600 Americans' climate beliefs.





Cluster analyses found three distinct groups based on climate belief trajectories.





Climate change believers were most likely to endorse federal climate policies.





Climate change skeptics were most likely to report pro-environmental behavior.



We conducted a one-year longitudinal study in which 600 American adults regularly reported their climate change beliefs, pro-environmental behavior, and other climate-change related measures. Using latent class analyses, we uncovered three clusters of Americans with distinct climate belief trajectories: (1) the "Skeptical," who believed least in climate change; (2) the "Cautiously Worried," who had moderate beliefs in climate change; and (3) the "Highly Concerned," who had the strongest beliefs and concern about climate change. Cluster membership predicted different outcomes: the "Highly Concerned" were most supportive of government climate policies, but least likely to report individual-level actions, whereas the "Skeptical" opposed policy solutions but were most likely to report engaging in individual-level pro-environmental behaviors. Implications for theory and practice are discussed.

The more worried people are about cl9imate change the more they contribute to the problem.
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: Anonymous on August 30, 2019, 06:58:23 PM
It seems that way.
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on September 08, 2019, 04:46:21 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"Millennials say they are very worried about climate change, but they want other people to fix it. No personal sacrifices for them.


They are known to be the generation that wants everything done for them or paid for them.
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on September 08, 2019, 04:47:56 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "seoulbro"Millennials say they are very worried about climate change, but they want other people to fix it. No personal sacrifices for them.

Other than our regular travel, my wife and I live minimalist lives.


I know a man and his wife. They can afford to travel the world but they never leave Washington, D.C. It baffles me why. I still have not found out why. Maybe they are afraid to fly but there is railway travel or boat.
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on September 08, 2019, 04:49:21 PM
Quote from: "cc"Here's a goody!!



This Greta chic did Atlantic in 100% green craft .. and they make a biggy of it .. Oh, and she refuses to fly at all



Catch is.. and they are not making a biggy of this part .. they are flying a crew in a pollutant  spewing airplane to get it back



 :D



GRETA THUNBERG'S BOAT TO BE BROUGHT BACK BY SAILING TEAM FLYING TWO CREW TO THE US (//https)


That was just pure hypocrisy on display. Good on anyone who wants to travel by that kind of boat in two weeks and no shower and crap into pails.  :laugh3:
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: Anonymous on September 08, 2019, 11:14:39 PM
Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"
Quote from: "cc"Here's a goody!!



This Greta chic did Atlantic in 100% green craft .. and they make a biggy of it .. Oh, and she refuses to fly at all



Catch is.. and they are not making a biggy of this part .. they are flying a crew in a pollutant  spewing airplane to get it back



 :D



GRETA THUNBERG'S BOAT TO BE BROUGHT BACK BY SAILING TEAM FLYING TWO CREW TO THE US (//https)


That was just pure hypocrisy on display. Good on anyone who wants to travel by that kind of boat in two weeks and no shower and crap into pails.  :laugh3:

All for show. She is as addicted to the superior life fossil fuels provide as her progs who are paying her bills.
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: Anonymous on September 09, 2019, 08:20:38 AM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"
Quote from: "cc"Here's a goody!!



This Greta chic did Atlantic in 100% green craft .. and they make a biggy of it .. Oh, and she refuses to fly at all



Catch is.. and they are not making a biggy of this part .. they are flying a crew in a pollutant  spewing airplane to get it back



 :D



GRETA THUNBERG'S BOAT TO BE BROUGHT BACK BY SAILING TEAM FLYING TWO CREW TO THE US (//https)


That was just pure hypocrisy on display. Good on anyone who wants to travel by that kind of boat in two weeks and no shower and crap into pails.  :laugh3:

All for show. She is as addicted to the superior life fossil fuels provide as her progs who are paying her bills.

Did you see that video of Pete Buttigieg, who believes banning straws will save the planet, drinking from a straw. :laugh3:
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: Anonymous on September 21, 2019, 08:11:58 AM
Someone posted a picture on my FB of garbage left behind after a climate demonstration in cities around the world.
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: Anonymous on October 03, 2019, 02:42:00 PM
13 Things Liberals Want To Ban, but only in the West where it doesn't end up in oceans.

 

Let freedom ring! When liberals see a problem, the solution is often to call for a ban. Here's a list of just some of the more ridiculous items on the liberal chopping block.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/multimedia/collection/13-things-liberals-want-to-ban/
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: Anonymous on October 03, 2019, 02:50:16 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"13 Things Liberals Want To Ban, but only in the West where it doesn't end up in oceans.

 

Let freedom ring! When liberals see a problem, the solution is often to call for a ban. Here's a list of just some of the more ridiculous items on the liberal chopping block.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/multimedia/collection/13-things-liberals-want-to-ban/

Banning Barbie dolls, toy guns, goldfish and the word welfare??

 :crazy:
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: cc on October 03, 2019, 02:51:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jaksJ9RRU8



Hose breaks, lol
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: Anonymous on October 03, 2019, 02:56:02 PM
Quote from: "cc"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jaksJ9RRU8

That makes sense.

 :001_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: cc on October 03, 2019, 04:05:16 PM
Funny to see the hose connection fail and spray the perps
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: Anonymous on October 03, 2019, 04:08:50 PM
Quote from: "cc"Funny to see the hose connection fail and spray the perps

I must admit, I did laugh a little.
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: sasquatch on October 04, 2019, 04:19:43 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"Someone posted a picture on my FB of garbage left behind after a climate demonstration in cities around the world.

yeah. one of those is actually a hoax, but there's real examples of eco-protesters trashing sites. for example, the cleanup from  the DAPL protest.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/1/dakota-access-protest-camp-crews-haul-48-million-p/
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: Anonymous on October 04, 2019, 08:46:54 AM
That's not the picture, but the picture I saw was from Dakota Access.
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: sasquatch on October 04, 2019, 12:18:15 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"That's not the picture, but the picture I saw was from Dakota Access.

and here is the hoax one

https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/climate-change/a-climate-change-photo-that-has-been-shared-more-than-34000-times-has-outraged-facebook-users/news-story/2271ff0fd36fe1be9282b31be1de3977
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: Anonymous on October 04, 2019, 04:29:00 PM
Quote from: "sasquatch"
Quote from: "Fashionista"That's not the picture, but the picture I saw was from Dakota Access.

and here is the hoax one

https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/climate-change/a-climate-change-photo-that-has-been-shared-more-than-34000-times-has-outraged-facebook-users/news-story/2271ff0fd36fe1be9282b31be1de3977

I never saw that picture.
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: Anonymous on October 05, 2019, 03:26:16 PM
Quote from: "sasquatch"
Quote from: "Fashionista"That's not the picture, but the picture I saw was from Dakota Access.

and here is the hoax one

https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/climate-change/a-climate-change-photo-that-has-been-shared-more-than-34000-times-has-outraged-facebook-users/news-story/2271ff0fd36fe1be9282b31be1de3977

Lots of real pics though.
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: sasquatch on October 06, 2019, 04:09:41 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "sasquatch"
Quote from: "Fashionista"That's not the picture, but the picture I saw was from Dakota Access.

and here is the hoax one

https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/climate-change/a-climate-change-photo-that-has-been-shared-more-than-34000-times-has-outraged-facebook-users/news-story/2271ff0fd36fe1be9282b31be1de3977

Lots of real pics though.

for sure, but I suspect eco-activists salt the internet with fake one to destroy credibility of the many real ones.
Title: Re: Climate Change Skeptics Live More Environmentally Responsible Lives Than Alarmists
Post by: Anonymous on October 06, 2019, 08:37:20 PM
Quote from: "sasquatch"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "sasquatch"
Quote from: "Fashionista"That's not the picture, but the picture I saw was from Dakota Access.

and here is the hoax one

https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/climate-change/a-climate-change-photo-that-has-been-shared-more-than-34000-times-has-outraged-facebook-users/news-story/2271ff0fd36fe1be9282b31be1de3977

Lots of real pics though.

for sure, but I suspect eco-activists salt the internet with fake one to destroy credibility of the many real ones.

Of course, I expect that of them.