How much does anyone want to bet that the suspects are black.
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In total, approximately six dozen officers and paramedics were called to an apartment complex on Darcel Avenue, near Goreway and Morning Star drive, at 6:22 p.m. on Saturday with reports of a shooting near a parkette at one of the buildings.
Chief Chris McCord told reporters late Saturday the 17-year-old died at the scene. Four of the injured victims are between 13 and 17 years old. A 50-year-old woman also sustained serious injuries.
He said as of Saturday night, it is unknown if the shooting was targeted or if the victims knew the suspects.
McCord said witnesses reported that semi-automatic weapons may have been used by multiple suspects. He said "a lot" of shell casings were found at the scene.
He didn't release a description of the suspects, but he said tactical officers swept the apartment complex to ensure it was checked.
"All of the individuals fled the scene after the incident," McCord said, noting several vehicles were also hit during the gunfire.
"The individuals are definitely not in this area at the present. There has been a very extensive search conducted on the area, but when you have individuals armed with weapons such as this, yes, we do have a genuine concern for public safety."
https://globalnews.ca/news/5904322/mississauga-shooting-toronto-morning-star/
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In total, approximately six dozen officers and paramedics were called to an apartment complex on Darcel Avenue, near Goreway and Morning Star drive, at 6:22 p.m. on Saturday with reports of a shooting near a parkette at one of the buildings.
Chief Chris McCord told reporters late Saturday the 17-year-old died at the scene. Four of the injured victims are between 13 and 17 years old. A 50-year-old woman also sustained serious injuries.
He said as of Saturday night, it is unknown if the shooting was targeted or if the victims knew the suspects.
McCord said witnesses reported that semi-automatic weapons may have been used by multiple suspects. He said "a lot" of shell casings were found at the scene.
He didn't release a description of the suspects, but he said tactical officers swept the apartment complex to ensure it was checked.
"All of the individuals fled the scene after the incident," McCord said, noting several vehicles were also hit during the gunfire.
"The individuals are definitely not in this area at the present. There has been a very extensive search conducted on the area, but when you have individuals armed with weapons such as this, yes, we do have a genuine concern for public safety."
https://globalnews.ca/news/5904322/mississauga-shooting-toronto-morning-star/
There's a person on another forum that routinely uses tragedy to further her agenda..
I find that morally repugnant.
It always astonishes me when an incident occurs that highlights a major problem in society, using that incident as evidence for the existence of that problem is considered by some to be immoral.
Personally, I think ignoring said evidence is far more immoral.
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In total, approximately six dozen officers and paramedics were called to an apartment complex on Darcel Avenue, near Goreway and Morning Star drive, at 6:22 p.m. on Saturday with reports of a shooting near a parkette at one of the buildings.
Chief Chris McCord told reporters late Saturday the 17-year-old died at the scene. Four of the injured victims are between 13 and 17 years old. A 50-year-old woman also sustained serious injuries.
He said as of Saturday night, it is unknown if the shooting was targeted or if the victims knew the suspects.
McCord said witnesses reported that semi-automatic weapons may have been used by multiple suspects. He said "a lot" of shell casings were found at the scene.
He didn't release a description of the suspects, but he said tactical officers swept the apartment complex to ensure it was checked.
"All of the individuals fled the scene after the incident," McCord said, noting several vehicles were also hit during the gunfire.
"The individuals are definitely not in this area at the present. There has been a very extensive search conducted on the area, but when you have individuals armed with weapons such as this, yes, we do have a genuine concern for public safety."
https://globalnews.ca/news/5904322/mississauga-shooting-toronto-morning-star/
There's a person on another forum that routinely uses tragedy to further her agenda..
I find that morally repugnant.
You must mean that Lotusbud nincompoop. She really knows how to dumb down discussions. I don't usually post in the Politics sub on SG. There's not much point.
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In total, approximately six dozen officers and paramedics were called to an apartment complex on Darcel Avenue, near Goreway and Morning Star drive, at 6:22 p.m. on Saturday with reports of a shooting near a parkette at one of the buildings.
Chief Chris McCord told reporters late Saturday the 17-year-old died at the scene. Four of the injured victims are between 13 and 17 years old. A 50-year-old woman also sustained serious injuries.
He said as of Saturday night, it is unknown if the shooting was targeted or if the victims knew the suspects.
McCord said witnesses reported that semi-automatic weapons may have been used by multiple suspects. He said "a lot" of shell casings were found at the scene.
He didn't release a description of the suspects, but he said tactical officers swept the apartment complex to ensure it was checked.
"All of the individuals fled the scene after the incident," McCord said, noting several vehicles were also hit during the gunfire.
"The individuals are definitely not in this area at the present. There has been a very extensive search conducted on the area, but when you have individuals armed with weapons such as this, yes, we do have a genuine concern for public safety."
https://globalnews.ca/news/5904322/mississauga-shooting-toronto-morning-star/
There's a person on another forum that routinely uses tragedy to further her agenda..
I find that morally repugnant.
Yes, I mean Lotusbud..
She uses tragedy to further her partisan political agenda..
That shows a total lack of empathy as well as sincerity..
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Personally, I think ignoring said evidence is far more immoral.
Do you mean the race of the suspects?
IHJ doesn't know the race of the shooters.
I wasn't referring to specifics. I don't know the details.
Nonetheless, if innocent lives are taken by guns that should NEVER be in the hands of people in a civilised society, then highlighting the folly of enabling gun ownership is not immoral.
It is a duty.
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Nonetheless, if innocent lives are taken by guns that should NEVER be in the hands of people in a civilised society, then highlighting the folly of enabling gun ownership is not immoral.
It is a duty.
The firearms were probably illegal. Aren't gun bans effective.
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Nonetheless, if innocent lives are taken by guns that should NEVER be in the hands of people in a civilised society, then highlighting the folly of enabling gun ownership is not immoral.
It is a duty.
The firearms were probably illegal. Aren't gun bans effective.
Prohibition worked so well with alcohol too.
Firearms are neither legal, nor illegal.
It is the possession or use of them that can be illegal.
Wrong. Most firearms in Canada can be purchased legally.
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But,they were probably illegal in this case.
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I believe hand guns are very very difficult to get here and the "wrong" person will never get one legally
well, ok Brick, ya got me on "him"
and most if not all of Toronto's shootings have been hand guns ... illegal handguns
as I recall, even allah's disciple used an illegal handgun to shoot so many on Danforth
so there ya go
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People break into homes and steal guns.
It's the age of theft.
Will someone please explain to me what an "illegal" firearm is?
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One that was not purchased lawfully. Meaning the owner does not possess either a restricted or non restricted PAL.
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There's a person on another forum that routinely uses tragedy to further her agenda..
I find that morally repugnant.
I'm astounded to hear this judgment from you.
Although I haven't been reading at SG of late, I've known and argued with Lotus for well over a decade, going back to the old Yahoo boards and continuing on a succession of smaller ones.
I would agree that she's an accomplished troll who's tenacious and fearless, but I don't really find her trolling morally repugnant. I believe her to be an intelligent, moral, and passionate human being whose political slant as well as her style does piss some people off.
It sounds to me like she has somehow gotten under someone's skin. I am sincerely curious as to how this happened, and I'd appreciate more info and perhaps some links to the moral stuff.
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There's a person on another forum that routinely uses tragedy to further her agenda..
I find that morally repugnant.
I'm astounded to hear this judgment from you.
Although I haven't been reading at SG of late, I've known and argued with Lotus for well over a decade, going back to the old Yahoo boards and continuing on a succession of smaller ones.
I would agree that she's an accomplished troll who's tenacious and fearless, but I don't really find her trolling morally repugnant. I believe her to be an intelligent, moral, and passionate human being whose political slant as well as her style does piss some people off.
It sounds to me like she has somehow gotten under someone's skin. I am sincerely curious as to how this happened, and I'd appreciate more info and perhaps some links to the moral stuff.
Anybody that uses tragedy to further an agenda doesn't care about the tragedy..
That includes the person posted the op.
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There's a person on another forum that routinely uses tragedy to further her agenda..
I find that morally repugnant.
I'm astounded to hear this judgment from you.
Although I haven't been reading at SG of late, I've known and argued with Lotus for well over a decade, going back to the old Yahoo boards and continuing on a succession of smaller ones.
I would agree that she's an accomplished troll who's tenacious and fearless, but I don't really find her trolling morally repugnant. I believe her to be an intelligent, moral, and passionate human being whose political slant as well as her style does piss some people off.
It sounds to me like she has somehow gotten under someone's skin. I am sincerely curious as to how this happened, and I'd appreciate more info and perhaps some links to the moral stuff.
Anybody that uses tragedy to further an agenda doesn't care about the tragedy..
That includes the person posted the op.
If you mean to denote THIS thread, and thus IHJ, then I'll say that it's quite common for posters everywhere to speculate about the ethnicity or race of perpetrators based on a breaking story. I personally find it tiresome but I hardly believe it's an exemplar of moral turpitude.
Moreover, at least 70% of this forum's members do it, some of them very consistently. By "it" I mean to say the speculation itself, not the specific qualities being speculated upon.
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There's a person on another forum that routinely uses tragedy to further her agenda..
I find that morally repugnant.
I'm astounded to hear this judgment from you.
Although I haven't been reading at SG of late, I've known and argued with Lotus for well over a decade, going back to the old Yahoo boards and continuing on a succession of smaller ones.
I would agree that she's an accomplished troll who's tenacious and fearless, but I don't really find her trolling morally repugnant. I believe her to be an intelligent, moral, and passionate human being whose political slant as well as her style does piss some people off.
It sounds to me like she has somehow gotten under someone's skin. I am sincerely curious as to how this happened, and I'd appreciate more info and perhaps some links to the moral stuff.
Anybody that uses tragedy to further an agenda doesn't care about the tragedy..
That includes the person posted the op.
If you mean to denote THIS thread, and thus IHJ, then
Moreover, at least 70% of this forum's members do it, some of them very consistently. By "it" I mean to say the speculation itself, not the specific qualities being speculated upon.
I serves no purpose other than to justify IHJ's xenophobia.
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There's a person on another forum that routinely uses tragedy to further her agenda..
I find that morally repugnant.
I'm astounded to hear this judgment from you.
Although I haven't been reading at SG of late, I've known and argued with Lotus for well over a decade, going back to the old Yahoo boards and continuing on a succession of smaller ones.
I would agree that she's an accomplished troll who's tenacious and fearless, but I don't really find her trolling morally repugnant. I believe her to be an intelligent, moral, and passionate human being whose political slant as well as her style does piss some people off.
It sounds to me like she has somehow gotten under someone's skin. I am sincerely curious as to how this happened, and I'd appreciate more info and perhaps some links to the moral stuff.
Anybody that uses tragedy to further an agenda doesn't care about the tragedy..
That includes the person posted the op.
If you mean to denote THIS thread, and thus IHJ, then
Moreover, at least 70% of this forum's members do it, some of them very consistently. By "it" I mean to say the speculation itself, not the specific qualities being speculated upon.
I serves no purpose other than to justify IHJ's xenophobia.
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There's a person on another forum that routinely uses tragedy to further her agenda..
I find that morally repugnant.
I'm astounded to hear this judgment from you.
Although I haven't been reading at SG of late, I've known and argued with Lotus for well over a decade, going back to the old Yahoo boards and continuing on a succession of smaller ones.
I would agree that she's an accomplished troll who's tenacious and fearless, but I don't really find her trolling morally repugnant. I believe her to be an intelligent, moral, and passionate human being whose political slant as well as her style does piss some people off.
It sounds to me like she has somehow gotten under someone's skin. I am sincerely curious as to how this happened, and I'd appreciate more info and perhaps some links to the moral stuff.
Anybody that uses tragedy to further an agenda doesn't care about the tragedy..
That includes the person posted the op.
If you mean to denote THIS thread, and thus IHJ, then I'll say that it's quite common for posters everywhere to speculate about the ethnicity or race of perpetrators based on a breaking story. I personally find it tiresome but I hardly believe it's an exemplar of moral turpitude.
Moreover, at least 70% of this forum's members do it, some of them very consistently. By "it" I mean to say the speculation itself, not the specific qualities being speculated upon.
I'd say she is saying old Jock is pulling a locustbud.
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Anybody that uses tragedy to further an agenda doesn't care about the tragedy..
That includes the person posted the op.
If that agenda is to prevent further tragedies, then they are perfectly entitled to cite examples of the cause and consequences of the problem.
Police forces everywhere provide warnings and cautionary messages after fatal vehicular accidents condemning poor driver behaviour.
Is THAT immoral?
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Anybody that uses tragedy to further an agenda doesn't care about the tragedy..
That includes the person posted the op.
If that agenda is to prevent further tragedies, then they are perfectly entitled to cite examples of the cause and consequences of the problem.
Police forces everywhere provide warnings and cautionary messages after fatal vehicular accidents condemning poor driver behaviour.
Is THAT immoral?
If they condemn East Asian drivers, than yes, it's immoral.
If the number of east Asian drivers involved in fatal collisions in which they are at fault is proportionally high, where is the line of morality then?
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East Asians can be as good or as bad behind the wheel of cars as anyone else.
I disagree.
Their general driving ability as demonstrated on our roads is below average.
My old lady excels at everything she does except driving.
It would be good to see some accident and offense stats to see exactly what the story really is
However, that would not happen. We are now in a world where any stats done by group is "verboten"
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However, that would not happen. We are now in a world where any stats done by group is "verboten"
It would not bother my old lady.
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However, that would not happen. We are now in a world where any stats done by group is "verboten"
It would not bother my old lady.
It would me..
Particularly if it made no distinction between new immigrants and East Asians that have lived in Canada most or all of their lives.
Why would it bother you?
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However, that would not happen. We are now in a world where any stats done by group is "verboten"
It would not bother my old lady.
It would me..
Particularly if it made no distinction between new immigrants and East Asians that have lived in Canada most or all of their lives.
Ya, that is true. The longer Chinese have been in Canada, the better their driving ability.
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I want my driving record to determine what I pay for insurance, not my race.
Bang on
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I want my driving record to determine what I pay for insurance, not my race.
Or gender, or age, or get this... credit score! They make people with a low credit score pay higher insurance!
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I want my driving record to determine what I pay for insurance, not my race.
Or gender, or age, or get this... credit score! They make people with a low credit score pay higher insurance!
We have government auto insurance in Manitoba. But, credit score does not affect rates in provinces with private auto insurance.
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I want my driving record to determine what I pay for insurance, not my race.
Then you are happy to pay more, because less competent drivers have more accidents and thus cost insurance companies more in claims.
Incompetent drivers cost EVERYONE more.
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I want my driving record to determine what I pay for insurance, not my race.
Then you are happy to pay more, because less competent drivers have more accidents and thus cost insurance companies more in claims.
Incompetent drivers cost EVERYONE more.
And all Oriental drivers are incompetent. :laugh3: