https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/poll-predicts-conservative-minority
The telephone survey of 1,013 Canadians by Forum Research Inc. has the Tories leading with 35 per cent of voter intentions, while the Liberals are trailing with 28 per cent.
It puts the NDP in third place with 13 per cent, virtually tied with the Green Party at 12 per cent, while the Bloc Québécois has seven per cent and the People's Party has three per cent.
The poll was conducted on Monday night and Tuesday.
The pollster said that could translate into a Conservative minority government, with 152 seats for the Tories, 117 for the Liberals, 36 for the Bloc Québécois, 29 for the NDP and four for the Greens.
While previous Forum polls since January had showed the Bloc winning between zero and 27 seats, this one suggests the Quebec sovereignist party could win 36 seats — almost half of Quebec's total of 78.
"In the immediate aftermath of the debate, support seems to be shifting away from the Liberals," said Lorne Bozinoff, president of Forum Research.
"Rising intention for the Bloc is hurting their seat prospects in Quebec, while the Conservatives are slightly above where we saw them a few weeks ago," he added.
Quebec Premier François Legault lashed out at Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau Tuesday for boasting in the debate that he was the only federal leader ready to say he might make use of the courts to fight Quebec's secularism law.
Legault slammed Trudeau for saying he might contest Bill 21 despite popular support for it in Quebec, calling Trudeau's comments "very regrettable."
Asked which leader won the debate, 23 per cent of respondents said it was Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer, 21 per cent said NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh, 15 per cent said Trudeau, seven per cent said Bloc Leader Yves-François Blanchet and five per cent said Green Leader Elizabeth May.
Without quebec turdy is finished. now its time for the CPC to start flipping seats elsewhere and make it a majority
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The telephone survey of 1,013 Canadians by Forum Research Inc. has the Tories leading with 35 per cent of voter intentions, while the Liberals are trailing with 28 per cent.
It puts the NDP in third place with 13 per cent, virtually tied with the Green Party at 12 per cent, while the Bloc Québécois has seven per cent and the People's Party has three per cent.
The poll was conducted on Monday night and Tuesday.
The pollster said that could translate into a Conservative minority government, with 152 seats for the Tories, 117 for the Liberals, 36 for the Bloc Québécois, 29 for the NDP and four for the Greens.
While previous Forum polls since January had showed the Bloc winning between zero and 27 seats, this one suggests the Quebec sovereignist party could win 36 seats — almost half of Quebec's total of 78.
"In the immediate aftermath of the debate, support seems to be shifting away from the Liberals," said Lorne Bozinoff, president of Forum Research.
"Rising intention for the Bloc is hurting their seat prospects in Quebec, while the Conservatives are slightly above where we saw them a few weeks ago," he added.
Quebec Premier François Legault lashed out at Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau Tuesday for boasting in the debate that he was the only federal leader ready to say he might make use of the courts to fight Quebec's secularism law.
Legault slammed Trudeau for saying he might contest Bill 21 despite popular support for it in Quebec, calling Trudeau's comments "very regrettable."
Asked which leader won the debate, 23 per cent of respondents said it was Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer, 21 per cent said NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh, 15 per cent said Trudeau, seven per cent said Bloc Leader Yves-François Blanchet and five per cent said Green Leader Elizabeth May.
Without quebec turdy is finished. now its time for the CPC to start flipping seats elsewhere and make it a majority
That would be interesting.
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The telephone survey of 1,013 Canadians by Forum Research Inc. has the Tories leading with 35 per cent of voter intentions, while the Liberals are trailing with 28 per cent.
It puts the NDP in third place with 13 per cent, virtually tied with the Green Party at 12 per cent, while the Bloc Québécois has seven per cent and the People's Party has three per cent.
The poll was conducted on Monday night and Tuesday.
The pollster said that could translate into a Conservative minority government, with 152 seats for the Tories, 117 for the Liberals, 36 for the Bloc Québécois, 29 for the NDP and four for the Greens.
While previous Forum polls since January had showed the Bloc winning between zero and 27 seats, this one suggests the Quebec sovereignist party could win 36 seats — almost half of Quebec's total of 78.
"In the immediate aftermath of the debate, support seems to be shifting away from the Liberals," said Lorne Bozinoff, president of Forum Research.
"Rising intention for the Bloc is hurting their seat prospects in Quebec, while the Conservatives are slightly above where we saw them a few weeks ago," he added.
Quebec Premier François Legault lashed out at Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau Tuesday for boasting in the debate that he was the only federal leader ready to say he might make use of the courts to fight Quebec's secularism law.
Legault slammed Trudeau for saying he might contest Bill 21 despite popular support for it in Quebec, calling Trudeau's comments "very regrettable."
Asked which leader won the debate, 23 per cent of respondents said it was Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer, 21 per cent said NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh, 15 per cent said Trudeau, seven per cent said Bloc Leader Yves-François Blanchet and five per cent said Green Leader Elizabeth May.
Without quebec turdy is finished. now its time for the CPC to start flipping seats elsewhere and make it a majority
Sasquatch, I just read in the National Post, that while the BQ is rising in Quebec, the Liberals will still win more seats there.
The only pathway to victory for the Tories is a resurgent BQ or NDP.
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The telephone survey of 1,013 Canadians by Forum Research Inc. has the Tories leading with 35 per cent of voter intentions, while the Liberals are trailing with 28 per cent.
It puts the NDP in third place with 13 per cent, virtually tied with the Green Party at 12 per cent, while the Bloc Québécois has seven per cent and the People's Party has three per cent.
The poll was conducted on Monday night and Tuesday.
The pollster said that could translate into a Conservative minority government, with 152 seats for the Tories, 117 for the Liberals, 36 for the Bloc Québécois, 29 for the NDP and four for the Greens.
While previous Forum polls since January had showed the Bloc winning between zero and 27 seats, this one suggests the Quebec sovereignist party could win 36 seats — almost half of Quebec's total of 78.
"In the immediate aftermath of the debate, support seems to be shifting away from the Liberals," said Lorne Bozinoff, president of Forum Research.
"Rising intention for the Bloc is hurting their seat prospects in Quebec, while the Conservatives are slightly above where we saw them a few weeks ago," he added.
Quebec Premier François Legault lashed out at Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau Tuesday for boasting in the debate that he was the only federal leader ready to say he might make use of the courts to fight Quebec's secularism law.
Legault slammed Trudeau for saying he might contest Bill 21 despite popular support for it in Quebec, calling Trudeau's comments "very regrettable."
Asked which leader won the debate, 23 per cent of respondents said it was Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer, 21 per cent said NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh, 15 per cent said Trudeau, seven per cent said Bloc Leader Yves-François Blanchet and five per cent said Green Leader Elizabeth May.
Without quebec turdy is finished. now its time for the CPC to start flipping seats elsewhere and make it a majority
Sasquatch, I just read in the National Post, that while the BQ is rising in Quebec, the Liberals will still win more seats there.
yes, but they will cut the liberal block of seats down quite a bit. they don't need to win quebec, but just steal enough seats so the liberals don't coast back in easily. When that happens, they gotta get seats somewhere else, otherwise they will lose.
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The telephone survey of 1,013 Canadians by Forum Research Inc. has the Tories leading with 35 per cent of voter intentions, while the Liberals are trailing with 28 per cent.
It puts the NDP in third place with 13 per cent, virtually tied with the Green Party at 12 per cent, while the Bloc Québécois has seven per cent and the People's Party has three per cent.
The poll was conducted on Monday night and Tuesday.
The pollster said that could translate into a Conservative minority government, with 152 seats for the Tories, 117 for the Liberals, 36 for the Bloc Québécois, 29 for the NDP and four for the Greens.
While previous Forum polls since January had showed the Bloc winning between zero and 27 seats, this one suggests the Quebec sovereignist party could win 36 seats — almost half of Quebec's total of 78.
"In the immediate aftermath of the debate, support seems to be shifting away from the Liberals," said Lorne Bozinoff, president of Forum Research.
"Rising intention for the Bloc is hurting their seat prospects in Quebec, while the Conservatives are slightly above where we saw them a few weeks ago," he added.
Quebec Premier François Legault lashed out at Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau Tuesday for boasting in the debate that he was the only federal leader ready to say he might make use of the courts to fight Quebec's secularism law.
Legault slammed Trudeau for saying he might contest Bill 21 despite popular support for it in Quebec, calling Trudeau's comments "very regrettable."
Asked which leader won the debate, 23 per cent of respondents said it was Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer, 21 per cent said NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh, 15 per cent said Trudeau, seven per cent said Bloc Leader Yves-François Blanchet and five per cent said Green Leader Elizabeth May.
Without quebec turdy is finished. now its time for the CPC to start flipping seats elsewhere and make it a majority
Sasquatch, I just read in the National Post, that while the BQ is rising in Quebec, the Liberals will still win more seats there.
yes, but they will cut the liberal block of seats down quite a bit. they don't need to win quebec, but just steal enough seats so the liberals don't coast back in easily. When that happens, they gotta get seats somewhere else, otherwise they will lose.
Aha, right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPHiu_UCJ9M&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2S3j_0i06pNsYZ9ikKe1GyTWmUG6BNDS54OjzCDnslfICtAd7P-1GTOi0
If this is true, not even a celebrity like Trudeau can get away with it.
Trudeau Rumored To Be In Talks To Suppress Potentially Career-Ending Sex Scandal
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trudeau-rumored-be-talks-suppress-potentially-career-ending-sex-scandal
Somehow, the Liberal Party has managed to minimize the blowback from Justin Trudeau's 'blackface' scandal, and with two weeks to go until election day, is still well within the margin of error in most polls.
But there might be another scandal in the works. According to a report in the Buffalo Chronicle, the party is doing everything in its power to suppress a sex scandal involving Trudeau and the daughter of a wealthy Canadian businessman who Trudeau reportedly may have become involved with when she was a student at West Point Grey Academy, a prestigious private school where Trudeau worked as a substitute teacher in his 20s.
The Chronicle's sources claim that political observers had been anticipating an expose in Saturday's Globe and Mail. However, it appears Trudeau and his people have gotten to the woman, and are in the process of negotiating an NDA. The woman is being represented by counsel, and is reportedly being offered monetary compensation.
Trudeau worked as a substitute teacher at the private school from 1999 until an abrupt departure in June 2001. It has long been rumored that Trudeau had improper relations with female students while working at the school, though nothing has ever been substantiated.
The prime minister was briefly embroiled in a sexual harassment scandal after being accused of "groping" a reporter back in 2000. Trudeau swiftly acknowledged that he was wrong and apologized for groping the reporter.
But a sex scandal involving a potentially underage student would likely end his political career.
I have to admit that Scheer is hardly inspiring.
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Precisely. He's smarter and has a better grasp of issues than True Dope(not that that is saying much). But, he has the charisma of a sloth.
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Trudeau Rumored To Be In Talks To Suppress Potentially Career-Ending Sex Scandal
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trudeau-rumored-be-talks-suppress-potentially-career-ending-sex-scandal
Somehow, the Liberal Party has managed to minimize the blowback from Justin Trudeau's 'blackface' scandal, and with two weeks to go until election day, is still well within the margin of error in most polls.
But there might be another scandal in the works. According to a report in the Buffalo Chronicle, the party is doing everything in its power to suppress a sex scandal involving Trudeau and the daughter of a wealthy Canadian businessman who Trudeau reportedly may have become involved with when she was a student at West Point Grey Academy, a prestigious private school where Trudeau worked as a substitute teacher in his 20s.
The Chronicle's sources claim that political observers had been anticipating an expose in Saturday's Globe and Mail. However, it appears Trudeau and his people have gotten to the woman, and are in the process of negotiating an NDA. The woman is being represented by counsel, and is reportedly being offered monetary compensation.
Trudeau worked as a substitute teacher at the private school from 1999 until an abrupt departure in June 2001. It has long been rumored that Trudeau had improper relations with female students while working at the school, though nothing has ever been substantiated.
The prime minister was briefly embroiled in a sexual harassment scandal after being accused of "groping" a reporter back in 2000. Trudeau swiftly acknowledged that he was wrong and apologized for groping the reporter.
But a sex scandal involving a potentially underage student would likely end his political career.
If this was true, the Tories and the Dippers would be running with it.
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Trudeau Rumored To Be In Talks To Suppress Potentially Career-Ending Sex Scandal
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trudeau-rumored-be-talks-suppress-potentially-career-ending-sex-scandal
Somehow, the Liberal Party has managed to minimize the blowback from Justin Trudeau's 'blackface' scandal, and with two weeks to go until election day, is still well within the margin of error in most polls.
But there might be another scandal in the works. According to a report in the Buffalo Chronicle, the party is doing everything in its power to suppress a sex scandal involving Trudeau and the daughter of a wealthy Canadian businessman who Trudeau reportedly may have become involved with when she was a student at West Point Grey Academy, a prestigious private school where Trudeau worked as a substitute teacher in his 20s.
The Chronicle's sources claim that political observers had been anticipating an expose in Saturday's Globe and Mail. However, it appears Trudeau and his people have gotten to the woman, and are in the process of negotiating an NDA. The woman is being represented by counsel, and is reportedly being offered monetary compensation.
Trudeau worked as a substitute teacher at the private school from 1999 until an abrupt departure in June 2001. It has long been rumored that Trudeau had improper relations with female students while working at the school, though nothing has ever been substantiated.
The prime minister was briefly embroiled in a sexual harassment scandal after being accused of "groping" a reporter back in 2000. Trudeau swiftly acknowledged that he was wrong and apologized for groping the reporter.
But a sex scandal involving a potentially underage student would likely end his political career.
He's such a POS, I wouldn't put it past him. Proving it is another matter though.
I read this as "BBQ surges and screw liberals" lol, yeah!!!!
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Very different poll results in this one.
The Leger poll, conducted for The Canadian Press after last week's French debate on Quebec's TVA network and this week's official English debate, put support for the Liberals and Conservatives at 31 per cent each, both down three points.
The NDP moved up to a solid third place with 18 per cent, up four points but still almost two points behind the party's share of the vote in the 2015 election.
Support for the Green party was unchanged at 11 per cent while Maxime Bernier's fledgling People's Party of Canada was up one point to three per cent.
In Quebec, the Bloc was up nine points to 29 per cent, mostly at the expense of the Conservatives who fell nine points to 16 per cent. The Liberals were still leading in the province but down three points to 31 per cent, while the NDP was at 13 per cent, the Greens at seven per cent and the People's party at three.
https://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn/canada-news-pmn/ndp-bloc-get-post-debate-boost-but-liberals-conservatives-still-tied-poll
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That was after last week's debate. the next one is tonight, so we'll wait and see.
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That was after last week's debate. the next one is tonight, so we'll wait and see.
I cannot stand MacLean's. They always show the Liberals, NDP or Greens doing better than what they are. Singh is their latest hero.
Our politics is becoming more like the states. I can hardly wait to get out of this country.
More people are coming forward, claiming they're getting voter cards from Elections Canada – even though they're not Canadian citizens. As Silvana Benolich reports, some say it's happened more than once.
https://globalnews.ca/video/6013985/more-non-canadians-claim-theyre-getting-voter-cards-from-elections-canada
Conservative support is slipping. The Grits are at 35 with the Tories at 33% according to this Nanos poll.
https://election.ctvnews.ca/dozens-of-ridings-too-close-to-call-heading-into-thanksgiving-weekend-nanos-1.4634607
The Tories are already shopping for a new leader. Peter McKay is the guy they want if the Globe and Mail is to be believed.
I can't believe Maxime Bernier is not doing better than he is.
Trudeau drops, Singh bounces as voters turn from Liberals
The latest poll conducted for the Sun as part of the DART Maru/Blue Voice Canada Poll shows the Conservatives sitting at 33% support nationally, the Liberals dropping to 28% and the NDP rising to 20%.
Pollster John Wright, partner at DART, notes his is the second poll in the last 48 hours that shows the Liberals dropping below the 30% floor. A previous DART poll showed that just 25% of voters believe the Trudeau Liberals deserve re-election — now those voters that had parked their votes with Trudeau are looking at other options.
Andrew Scheer's party has seen a jump in British Columbia, which could result in a bump in seats. The Conservatives are now at 38% support in B.C., up from 32% in September. The Liberals have fallen five points to 24% and the NDP sit unchanged at 22%.
British Columbia is the place where the Greens could have their best showing. The party currently has two MPs in that province and is sitting at 13% support.
Ontario has been seen as the big prize and the Conservatives, currently at 33%, and Liberals, sitting at 32%, are effectively tied there. The NDP becomes the wild card here as they show a 7 point increase to 18% support.
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/lilley-trudeau-drops-singh-bounces-as-voters-turn-from-liberals
I would be interested in reading sasquatch's interpretation of the latest poll results. But, it seems clear to me it will be a Grit-Dipper coalition and that is the worst possible option.
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The latest poll conducted for the Sun as part of the DART Maru/Blue Voice Canada Poll shows the Conservatives sitting at 33% support nationally, the Liberals dropping to 28% and the NDP rising to 20%.
Pollster John Wright, partner at DART, notes his is the second poll in the last 48 hours that shows the Liberals dropping below the 30% floor. A previous DART poll showed that just 25% of voters believe the Trudeau Liberals deserve re-election — now those voters that had parked their votes with Trudeau are looking at other options.
Andrew Scheer's party has seen a jump in British Columbia, which could result in a bump in seats. The Conservatives are now at 38% support in B.C., up from 32% in September. The Liberals have fallen five points to 24% and the NDP sit unchanged at 22%.
British Columbia is the place where the Greens could have their best showing. The party currently has two MPs in that province and is sitting at 13% support.
Ontario has been seen as the big prize and the Conservatives, currently at 33%, and Liberals, sitting at 32%, are effectively tied there. The NDP becomes the wild card here as they show a 7 point increase to 18% support.
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/lilley-trudeau-drops-singh-bounces-as-voters-turn-from-liberals
I would be interested in reading sasquatch's interpretation of the latest poll results. But, it seems clear to me it will be a Gri-Dipper coalition and that is the worst possible option.
That's pretty much sums it up. LPOC's support is bleeding to other parties like the bloc and the NDP. Nanos still has the LPOC higher in spite other pollsters like Angus reid and mainstreet starting to show a CPC lead with a BQ and NDP rise. same with DART maru.
Polling is showing a strong possibility of a coalition, but if jagmeet and the bloc can steqal enough of trudeau's support, the CPC can pull off a majority win, but we'll see if it was enough. Advanced polling has already started, so lets hope.
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Polling is showing a strong possibility of a coalition, but if jagmeet and the bloc can steqal enough of trudeau's support, the CPC can pull off a majority win, but we'll see if it was enough. Advanced polling has already started, so lets hope.
A Grit-NDP coalition means the Grits renouncing their half-assed support for TMX. Their unholy alliance will be devastating for Canada's resource sector.
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Polling is showing a strong possibility of a coalition, but if jagmeet and the bloc can steqal enough of trudeau's support, the CPC can pull off a majority win, but we'll see if it was enough. Advanced polling has already started, so lets hope.
A Grit-NDP coalition means the Grits renouncing their half-assed support for TMX. Their unholy alliance will be devastating for Canada's resource sector.
Yeah. That would be a disaster. However, the Liberals could just as easily strike a deal with the CPC and tell the other fringe dipshits to go pack sand, but I wouldn't see hat happening except for a liberal minority, because sockboy would be too butthurt to give up the PM's chair and would go with the unholy alliance just to stay as PM. Jagmeet could easily stab trudeau in the back and get in bed with the CPC on certain issues and screw the LPOC over and send us back to the polls and another shot at CPC majority.
So, The chances the TMX's survival is slim in a minority government situation, but not impossible. it would require somebody to be slimey
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Polling is showing a strong possibility of a coalition, but if jagmeet and the bloc can steqal enough of trudeau's support, the CPC can pull off a majority win, but we'll see if it was enough. Advanced polling has already started, so lets hope.
A Grit-NDP coalition means the Grits renouncing their half-assed support for TMX. Their unholy alliance will be devastating for Canada's resource sector.
Yeah. That would be a disaster. However, the Liberals could just as easily strike a deal with the CPC and tell the other fringe dipshits to go pack sand, but I wouldn't see hat happening except for a liberal minority, because sockboy would be too butthurt to give up the PM's chair and would go with the unholy alliance just to stay as PM. Jagmeet could easily stab trudeau in the back and get in bed with the CPC on certain issues and screw the LPOC over and send us back to the polls and another shot at CPC majority.
So, The chances the TMX's survival is slim in a minority government situation, but not impossible. it would require somebody to be slimey
Without a majority Tory or Grit government, TMX is dead.
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Polling is showing a strong possibility of a coalition, but if jagmeet and the bloc can steqal enough of trudeau's support, the CPC can pull off a majority win, but we'll see if it was enough. Advanced polling has already started, so lets hope.
A Grit-NDP coalition means the Grits renouncing their half-assed support for TMX. Their unholy alliance will be devastating for Canada's resource sector.
Yeah. That would be a disaster. However, the Liberals could just as easily strike a deal with the CPC and tell the other fringe dipshits to go pack sand, but I wouldn't see hat happening except for a liberal minority, because sockboy would be too butthurt to give up the PM's chair and would go with the unholy alliance just to stay as PM. Jagmeet could easily stab trudeau in the back and get in bed with the CPC on certain issues and screw the LPOC over and send us back to the polls and another shot at CPC majority.
So, The chances the TMX's survival is slim in a minority government situation, but not impossible. it would require somebody to be slimey
Without a majority Tory or Grit government, TMX is dead.
yeah, that's the likely outcome if everybody plays ball like expected, but it is politics. they can just as easily betray others for their own self-interest. I'm just trying to give a bit of optimism.
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Polling is showing a strong possibility of a coalition, but if jagmeet and the bloc can steqal enough of trudeau's support, the CPC can pull off a majority win, but we'll see if it was enough. Advanced polling has already started, so lets hope.
A Grit-NDP coalition means the Grits renouncing their half-assed support for TMX. Their unholy alliance will be devastating for Canada's resource sector.
Yeah. That would be a disaster. However, the Liberals could just as easily strike a deal with the CPC and tell the other fringe dipshits to go pack sand, but I wouldn't see hat happening except for a liberal minority, because sockboy would be too butthurt to give up the PM's chair and would go with the unholy alliance just to stay as PM. Jagmeet could easily stab trudeau in the back and get in bed with the CPC on certain issues and screw the LPOC over and send us back to the polls and another shot at CPC majority.
So, The chances the TMX's survival is slim in a minority government situation, but not impossible. it would require somebody to be slimey
Without a majority Tory or Grit government, TMX is dead.
yeah, that's the likely outcome if everybody plays ball like expected, but it is politics. they can just as easily betray others for their own self-interest. I'm just trying to give a bit of optimism.
I'm not convinced TMX will be built even if the Grits got a majority.
Hey sasquatch, the number of people who voted in advanced polls is up 25%. That favours Trudeau.
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Except whenever that happens, its usually people trying to REMOVE a government. We'll see on October 21st,though.
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ac_lmfao ac_lmfao
Except whenever that happens, its usually people trying to REMOVE a government. We'll see on October 21st,though.
exactly
John Robson wrote this op-ed in the National Post on the non existent Conservative Party of Anderw Scheer.
Max Bernier may be an imperfect human being and a flawed politician. It happens. But whatever his blemishes, his party exists because the Tories abandoned their beliefs and their base long before 2017 on every important conservative issue from free markets to traditional social values to strong national defence.
As Chris Selley wrote, it's amazing how many people bogeyman Doug Ford has offended with his cuts while increasing spending.
So if everyone is against a real conservative platform including the Conservatives, why can't anyone stop talking about it? Because they all know in their hearts that government is overextended, doing too much in too many areas very badly at insupportable cost.
The Tories are rising in the 905 area, but dropping like a stone in Quebec.
Barack Obsma endorsed Trudeau. :2r4ml1j_th:
Not good.
Minority Report? NDP, Bloc successes appear to diminish majority aspirations for CPC, Liberals
http://angusreid.org/election-2019-final-week/
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Minority Report? NDP, Bloc successes appear to diminish majority aspirations for CPC, Liberals
http://angusreid.org/election-2019-final-week/
Canadians elected Justine because he seemed so nice. Now they are falling for Singh for the same reason. :crazy:
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Minority Report? NDP, Bloc successes appear to diminish majority aspirations for CPC, Liberals
http://angusreid.org/election-2019-final-week/
Canadins, especially Quebeckers are idiots.
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Minority Report? NDP, Bloc successes appear to diminish majority aspirations for CPC, Liberals
http://angusreid.org/election-2019-final-week/
yeah, unfortunately it is looking like a minority, so lets make sure we give them a minority so dysfunctional that it needs all of the parties to outvote the winning party, but lets hope for a surprise CPC majority.
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Minority Report? NDP, Bloc successes appear to diminish majority aspirations for CPC, Liberals
http://angusreid.org/election-2019-final-week/
yeah, unfortunately it is looking like a minority, so lets make sure we give them a minority so dysfunctional that it needs all of the parties to outvote the winning party, but lets hope for a surprise CPC majority.
It will be Trudrau propped up by Singh. Goodbye oil and gas sector. You paid for a lot of infrastructure and health care.
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That's interference.
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That's interference.
He has his frickin nerve.
Andrew Scheer said in an interview Tory internal polling shows they will win the most seats. If the party had elected a leader like Rona Ambrose or Brad Wall they would be looking at 200 seats.
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Both Scheer are all but conceding they won't win a majority.
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Both Scheer are all but conceding they won't win a majority.
They both suck.
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Both Scheer are all but conceding they won't win a majority.
They both suck.
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Brad wall yeah a for sure, but rona......I always found her a bit flakey.
An active politician that would've rocked it as leader is Pierre Poilievre. He's a well spoken and intelligent guy that stumps the liberals in the house of commons. Lets just hope he throws his hat in the ring after scheer steps down.
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Brad wall yeah a for sure, but rona......I always found her a bit flakey.
An active politician that would've rocked it as leader is Pierre Poilievre. He's a well spoken and intelligent guy that stumps the liberals in the house of commons. Lets just hope he throws his hat in the ring after scheer steps down.
Brad Wall was our premier. That guy is a gifted speaker. Rona not so much.
I am a fan of Pierre too. McKay will be the next leader of the party though.
I saw this on Facebook.
The Trudeau—NDP coalition will run record-breaking deficits totalling more than $138 billion.
To pay just half of their deficits, the coalition would have to:
Raise the lowest personal income tax bracket from 15% to 19.5%
Raise the GST from 5% to 7.5%
Cut the Canada Health Transfer by 41%
Cut the Canada Social Transfer by 100%
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The Trudeau—NDP coalition will run record-breaking deficits totalling more than $138 billion.
To pay just half of their deficits, the coalition would have to:
Raise the lowest personal income tax bracket from 15% to 19.5%
Raise the GST from 5% to 7.5%
Cut the Canada Health Transfer by 41%
Cut the Canada Social Transfer by 100%
An NDP-Grit coalition will be expensive.
I saw a Nanos poll for the Globe and Mail that showed the Tories down to 30 per cent, the Grits at 32 and Trudeau leading Scheer by eight points as the most preferred pm. I don't trust it, but it does show what a weak leader and his timid conservatism has squandered a golden opportunity.
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I think it was old sasquatch who said Nanos is full of shit.
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I think it was old sasquatch who said Nanos is full of shit.
I said Nanos tends to favour the liberals and oversample in liberal ridings. like I said, we'll see on october 21st if they are full of shit or how full of shit they are, but I'm hoping for a CPC majority upset just like Donald trump got in 2016, or brexit, or the past Australian election.
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I think it was old sasquatch who said Nanos is full of shit.
I said Nanos tends to favour the liberals and oversample in liberal ridings. like I said, we'll see on october 21st if they are full of shit or how full of shit they are, but I'm hoping for a CPC majority upset just like Donald trump got in 2016, or brexit, or the past Australian election.
If Nanos favours the Liberals, they are full of shit.
My mom is voting NDP. My grandmother will vote Liberals. For the Provincial election.
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I hate all of them except the PPC. I voted Conservative only because they won't destroy Saskatchewan's economy like the Liberals, NDP and Greens.
Some damaging last minute allegations against the Tories. The Conservatives hired former Liberal strategist Warren Kinsella to discredit Max Bernier's PPC.
https://www.thepostmillennial.com/conservatives-paid-warren-kinsellas-firm-to-discredit-maxime-berniers-ppc/
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https://www.thepostmillennial.com/conservatives-paid-warren-kinsellas-firm-to-discredit-maxime-berniers-ppc/
I wonder how long Justine's team was sitting on this.
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https://www.thepostmillennial.com/conservatives-paid-warren-kinsellas-firm-to-discredit-maxime-berniers-ppc/
Sabotaging my low immigration PPC. I hate Scheer and his prog Conservative party.
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https://www.thepostmillennial.com/conservatives-paid-warren-kinsellas-firm-to-discredit-maxime-berniers-ppc/
Sabotaging my low immigration PPC. I hate Scheer and his prog Conservative party.
I aint a big fan of Scheer, but the alternatives to him that have a chance of winning seats are so frickin bad.
Today is the big day..
I predict the final result will be a Liberal-NDP coalition.
Andrew Scheer is a weak leader who created the PPC by stabbing Bernier and silencing the libertarian wing of the Conservative Party. I predict Scheer will be the first party leader turfed.
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His support has dropped five to seven points since the election started.
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I predict the final result will be a Liberal-NDP coalition.
If it does end up being a minority, i hope it ends up having to be a Liberal-NDP-Bloc-Green coalition, because those self-serving twats would be too busy being at eachother's throats to do anything and probably colapse within a year and give the CPC a chance to get better leader candidate.
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I predict the final result will be a Liberal-NDP coalition.
If it does end up being a minority, i hope it ends up having to be a Liberal-NDP-Bloc-Green coalition, because those self-serving twats would be too busy being at eachother's throats to do anything and probably colapse within a year and give the CPC a chance to get better leader candidate.
If it's a minority government, and it probably will be, I wonder how long it will last.
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I predict the final result will be a Liberal-NDP coalition.
If it does end up being a minority, i hope it ends up having to be a Liberal-NDP-Bloc-Green coalition, because those self-serving twats would be too busy being at eachother's throats to do anything and probably colapse within a year and give the CPC a chance to get better leader candidate.
Canada is screwed no matter who emerges victorious.
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I predict the final result will be a Liberal-NDP coalition.
If it does end up being a minority, i hope it ends up having to be a Liberal-NDP-Bloc-Green coalition, because those self-serving twats would be too busy being at eachother's throats to do anything and probably colapse within a year and give the CPC a chance to get better leader candidate.
If it's a minority government, and it probably will be, I wonder how long it will last.
as history has shown, it lasts as long as it is politically convenient for a party. the late 2000's we did have 3 elections until the CPC finally got a majority in 2011. each time the liberals lost more seats until michael ignatieff goofed up and the NDP became the official opposition.
So, what will probably hapen if if polling suddenly shows the liberals in position to get a majority back, you know damn well those slimey bastards will go for it, ot if jagmeet has a chance he will go for it.
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I predict the final result will be a Liberal-NDP coalition.
If it does end up being a minority, i hope it ends up having to be a Liberal-NDP-Bloc-Green coalition, because those self-serving twats would be too busy being at eachother's throats to do anything and probably colapse within a year and give the CPC a chance to get better leader candidate.
If it's a minority government, and it probably will be, I wonder how long it will last.
as history has shown, it lasts as long as it is politically convenient for a party. the late 2000's we did have 3 elections until the CPC finally got a majority in 2011. each time the liberals lost more seats until michael ignatieff goofed up and the NDP became the official opposition.
So, what will probably hapen if if polling suddenly shows the liberals in position to get a majority back, you know damn well those slimey bastards will go for it, ot if jagmeet has a chance he will go for it.
I read, perhaps here that the NDP is broke..
They will make this coalition government last because the can't afford another election.
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I predict the final result will be a Liberal-NDP coalition.
If it does end up being a minority, i hope it ends up having to be a Liberal-NDP-Bloc-Green coalition, because those self-serving twats would be too busy being at eachother's throats to do anything and probably colapse within a year and give the CPC a chance to get better leader candidate.
If it's a minority government, and it probably will be, I wonder how long it will last.
as history has shown, it lasts as long as it is politically convenient for a party. the late 2000's we did have 3 elections until the CPC finally got a majority in 2011. each time the liberals lost more seats until michael ignatieff goofed up and the NDP became the official opposition.
So, what will probably hapen if if polling suddenly shows the liberals in position to get a majority back, you know damn well those slimey bastards will go for it, ot if jagmeet has a chance he will go for it.
I read, perhaps here that the NDP is broke..
They will make this coalition government last because the can't afford another election.
They are broke, and that's no joke.
I would have thought he's do somewhat better
I guess Canada has now gone left full cycle ... what with consevs being merely liberal lite
Well, my money is that Trudeau will tell fagmeat to piss up a rope and cozy up to the bloc.
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My money is that the NDP has no money. Which means they are the most desperate to make a deal.
Ottawa — Prime Minister Justin trudeau pulled off a second consecutive election win earlier this week with a late change in tactics designed to scare progressive voters who showed signs of abandoning Liberal candidates, four Liberal campaign sources said.
as polls indicated he could lose, trudeau ditched his "sunny ways" persona that had swept him to power in 2015 and started hammering away at three smaller parties on the left, warning their supporters that if they didn't vote Liberal, the progressive vote would splinter and allow the opposition conservatives to take power. during the last two weeks of the campaign, trudeau repeatedly told supporters that voting for the rival new democrats, bloc Quebecois and Greens would result in a progressive opposition, not a progressive government.
"We're doing this because it works," one Liberal official said of the strategy as the campaign reached its climax last week. He and the three other Liberal aides and strategists in this story declined to be named because they were not authorized to discuss campaign strategy.
rival parties lately complained about what they saw as fearmongering by trudeau, who won a healthy minority and should be safe for the next two years. "the Liberals like to talk progressive, but they govern conservative," Jagmeet Singh, leader of the new democrats, said on Oct 15. "I want people to dream big. don't settle for less."
Former Liberal prime minister Paul Martin used the same fear-inspiring technique in the last week of 2004 election, during which he managed to fight off a challenge from the conservatives.
"It's absolutely a legitimate strategy by people who want to drive votes towards them based on fear of the worst result," said tim Murphy, who was Martin's chief of staff at the time.
Former Liberal deputy prime minister John Manley said Monday's results in the populous province of Ontario, where the party held onto virtually all of its seats, showed the tactic had worked.
Support for the new democrats, seen as a major left-leaning challenger in some seats, fell markedly in the last few days, allowing trudeau to stay in power, he noted.
"you'd rather people voted enthusiastically for you rather than against someone else, but at the end of the day, who won?" Manley said in a phone interview. neither the Liberal nor conservative campaign spokespeople were immediately available for comment.
the victory was all the more remarkable because Liberal campaign officials had heard from the first day about deep dissatisfaction with trudeau from long-time supporters.
trudeau came into the campaign trying to shake off the effects of an ethics scandal and ran into further problems when photos emerged of him wearing black face.
"Some people are telling me 'normally I would vote for you, but a vote for you is a vote for (trudeau) and I'm not voting for him come hell or high water'," said one Liberal legislator who declined to be named.