Title: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Gaon on October 10, 2019, 11:48:41 PM
Post by: Gaon on October 10, 2019, 11:48:41 PM
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Gaon on October 10, 2019, 11:54:44 PM
Post by: Gaon on October 10, 2019, 11:54:44 PM
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 10, 2019, 11:59:07 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 10, 2019, 11:59:07 PM
America allowed this happen when they made the decision to withdraw troops from that country.Quote from: "Gaon"https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-pans-turkish-invasion-of-syrian-kurdistan-offers-aid/
Hello Gaon, this is an unfortunate consequence of the American withdrawal..
I would like to see an independent Kurdish state.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 11, 2019, 12:01:48 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 11, 2019, 12:01:48 AM
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Gaon on October 11, 2019, 12:12:33 AM
Post by: Gaon on October 11, 2019, 12:12:33 AM
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 11, 2019, 12:36:51 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 11, 2019, 12:36:51 AM
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Gaon on October 11, 2019, 12:55:55 AM
Post by: Gaon on October 11, 2019, 12:55:55 AM
Watch our idiotic pm speak about this.Quote from: "Shen Li"https://twitter.com/canadabuster/status/1181933077918048256?s=21&fbclid=IwAR2EwcsSYipvph5MORwJG_zZIo8ugoe01-N13ai-jQvq9bFP-G8GcuVjb5M
What a rambling fool. And Canadians want to give him a second term.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 11, 2019, 08:57:04 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 11, 2019, 08:57:04 AM
Watch our idiotic pm speak about this.Quote from: "Shen Li"https://twitter.com/canadabuster/status/1181933077918048256?s=21&fbclid=IwAR2EwcsSYipvph5MORwJG_zZIo8ugoe01-N13ai-jQvq9bFP-G8GcuVjb5M
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 11, 2019, 12:00:22 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 11, 2019, 12:00:22 PM
I aint buying the reason that Erogan islookingfor a place to resettle Syrians in Turkey.
ISTANBUL — Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Thursday Turkey would eliminate the threat from Islamic State militants in northeast Syria following its campaign to oust Kurdish fighters from the region.
This came as international concern mounted over the fate of thousands of Islamist militants held in areas affected by the fighting. "We will do whatever needs to be done" to prevent an Islamic State resurgence, Erdogan said in a speech in the Turkish capital, Ankara, just one day after announcing the start of a punishing offensive against Kurdish-led militias on the border.
Turkey says it aims to create a "safe zone" in northeast Syria, where millions of Syrian refugees living in Turkey could potentially resettle.
"After Turkey takes control of this region, everyone can be sure that (Islamic State) will not reappear," Erdogan said, adding that Turkey would either imprison or deport the Islamist militants and their families.
Tens of thousands of Islamic State members and their families were detained in northeast Syria after the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces, which are allied with the United States, defeated the militant group earlier this year.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Odinson on October 11, 2019, 03:28:01 PM
Post by: Odinson on October 11, 2019, 03:28:01 PM
Otherwise those bitches and their mutts are gonna come back to Finland.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 11, 2019, 03:30:31 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 11, 2019, 03:30:31 PM
I´m just hoping that the turks kill all the ISIS-wives located in a prison camp in Syria..Quote from: "Odinson"
Otherwise those bitches and their mutts are gonna come back to Finland.
I think Turkey will kill a lot of people.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: cc on October 11, 2019, 10:49:12 PM
Post by: cc on October 11, 2019, 10:49:12 PM
My first thought was "they helped us" .. always portrayed as the "good guys". "We need to help them".
My second thought was .. wait a minute here .... "they are Maoists who have created a rigid socialist totalitarian society right in the middle of Arabia" (you don't hear that fact much ... look it up).
As always, there are always complications, reasons to fight for someone and there are always NO solutions in Arabia and we all need to get the hell out and stay out
ISIS is the only concern I have. If Turkey contains and or / kills them, fine. If it doesn't, we will have to deal with it ... hopefully killing them all instead of capture which just keeps it all going ... but PLEASE deal with NOTHING else .. and please make it conclusive as in ISIS is stone dead
Nothing in Arabia is as it appears ... N O T H I N G
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 11, 2019, 10:51:25 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 11, 2019, 10:51:25 PM
I have had to think hard to post on this one.Quote from: "cc"
My first thought was "they helped us" .. always portrayed as the "good guys". "We need to help them".
My second thought was .. wait a minute here .... "they are Maoists who have created a rigid socialist totalitarian society right in the middle of Arabia" (you don't hear that fact much ... look it up).
As always, there are always complications, reasons to fight for someone and there are always NO solutions in Arabia and we all need to get the hell out and stay out
ISIS is the only concern I have. If Turkey contains and or kills them, fine. If it doesn't, we will have to deal with it ... hopefully killing them all instead of capture which just keeps it all going ... but PLEASE deal with NOTHING else
The Kurds in Syria practice a collectivist culture?
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: cc on October 11, 2019, 10:57:04 PM
Post by: cc on October 11, 2019, 10:57:04 PM
There is lots of spin goes around, but the PKK run the show in Kurdville. That is why Turkey fights them
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 11, 2019, 10:59:44 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 11, 2019, 10:59:44 PM
Not Wiki fan, but for example -Quote from: "cc"The Kurdistan Workers' Party or PKK (Kurdish: Partiya Karkerên Kurdistanê[a]) is a Kurdish far-left militant and political organization based in Turkey and Iraq
There is lots of spin goes around, but the PKK run the show in Kurdville. That is why Turkey fights them
I have heard of the PKK. But, as you know, geopolitics is not my specialty.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: cc on October 11, 2019, 11:00:30 PM
Post by: cc on October 11, 2019, 11:00:30 PM
The Kurdish Path to Socialism in Syria - The Washington Institute
To maintain its dominant position and stay true to its ideological roots, the PYD is pushing socialist policies on a skeptical Rojava populace, with uncertain consequences for the future of the Syrian Kurdish zone.
In northern Syria, the Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PYD) aims to promote a political and economic system based on self-sufficiency and local democracy. Yet a closer look at the measures being implemented reveals a clear effort to apply the anti-capitalist ideology of Abdullah Ocalan, leader of the Kurdistan Worker's Party (PKK). It remains unclear whether this ideology is compatible with local economic conditions, however, and Kurdish authorities might resort to full normalization with the Assad regime instead if key stakeholders resist.
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Bookchin's model is close to Maoism, Ocalan's principal early source of inspiration. Unsurprisingly, the PKK leader became Bookchin's ideological disciple in 2004 after reading several of his works. A year later, at the group's 2005 congress, he made "libertarian municipalism" the official PKK political ideology.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 11, 2019, 11:31:26 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 11, 2019, 11:31:26 PM
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: cc on October 12, 2019, 12:38:20 PM
Post by: cc on October 12, 2019, 12:38:20 PM
I'm still trying to understand what happened and why and am not yet comfortable with the call ... and why such a very few US troops (a mere handful) mattered in the equation
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2019, 01:29:55 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 12, 2019, 01:29:55 PM
why such a very few US troops (a mere handful) mattered in the equationQuote from: "cc"
I don't get that either.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: cc on October 12, 2019, 03:41:10 PM
Post by: cc on October 12, 2019, 03:41:10 PM
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: cc on October 12, 2019, 03:41:20 PM
Post by: cc on October 12, 2019, 03:41:20 PM
Clearly they cannot stand against Turkey who wants them behind a a 20 mile safe zone along its southern border or this would not be an issue
Another motive is Turkey wants to send Syrians who fled into Turkey back to Syria ... and the Kurds are trying to rule the area and are in the way
Remember. This space was Syria before it all started
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: cc on October 12, 2019, 03:47:26 PM
Post by: cc on October 12, 2019, 03:47:26 PM
Also, we need to ask ourselves whether the withdrawal of a few American troops really matters in the conflict either against ISIS, and did it really grant the Turkish government the "green light" to attack "terrorist" Kurds? Perhaps. The Syrian civil war which led to the rise of ISIS is over and the bloody dictator in Damascus won, thanks to the Russians and Iranians. We can blame Obama for that outcome, not Trump. And yes, the Turks have permission from Damascus to cross into Syria and they will now consolidate a buffer zone along the Syrian border to control terrorist actions fostered by the independence-minded Kurds and allow for millions of refugees to return home. I bet the U.S. would do the same if we had a similar problem on either of our borders with Mexico or Canada.
The pregnant question that Trump's critics don't answer is: Will ISIS return to fight another day? Not necessarily. Keep in mind that al Qaeda and ISIS are in many more places today than when U.S. forces first pursued them in the mountains of Afghanistan and in the northern plains of Iraq. Also, what remains of ISIS is trapped in a small area in Syria and if they make a ruckus that can be easily handled by Turkish and Russian airstrikes, and they won't bother with concerns about collateral damage.
Another point about all the fake news about the Kurdish plight is evidence of a basic misunderstanding about the Middle East, which is locked in a constant cycle of war in part because of the English and French fools that redrew the maps after World War I.
Trump's critics can learn about Middle Eastern culture by watching Lawrence of Arabia. Remember the first time that Lawrence goes into the desert his guide stops at some oasis. As the guide drinks from the well, a dark figure on a camel rides fast towards them and then shoots dead Lawrence's guide. Lawrence is stunned and asks why the Arab killed the guide. The Arab responds, "He is Hazzami. He is nothing. He knew that he could not drink from our well."
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Yes, much of the region is
Why must America get involved in every conflict around the world that is, unless you believe as some of the Trump critics do, that we are indeed the world's policeman and like former American leaders, believe in promoting democracy at the pointy end of the bayonet?
Finally, I'm a security cooperation expert helping the Pentagon work with land forces across the world. Our allies and foreign partners like us because we are ready to fight for them and more often than not give them training and equipment to settle their own challenges. I dare say the American taxpayer ought to ask whether there ought to be a limit on how much of this fighting really supports our national interests.
I'm reminded of what English statesman and General Oliver Cromwell (1599-1658) said to his troops: "Put your trust in God, but mind to keep your powder dry." That's an apropos view in the Syria account. America has too many fights ongoing now and much bigger ones ahead. For our national interests, we too must "mind to keep" our powder dry and not squander our resources on others' wars. Let's put Syria in the rearview mirror.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2019, 10:19:56 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2019, 10:19:56 AM
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Odinson on October 13, 2019, 10:24:13 AM
Post by: Odinson on October 13, 2019, 10:24:13 AM
They are headed towards finnish social service office.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2019, 10:30:53 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2019, 10:30:53 AM
800 muslim cock loving liberal white female feminists have escaped the Ain Issa camp..Quote from: "Odinson"
They are headed towards finnish social service office.
Where is that camp?
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Odinson on October 13, 2019, 10:36:14 AM
Post by: Odinson on October 13, 2019, 10:36:14 AM
800 muslim cock loving liberal white female feminists have escaped the Ain Issa camp..Quote from: "Odinson"
They are headed towards finnish social service office.
Where is that camp?
Its near the area the turks are invading..
The camp guards have left the camp.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2019, 11:38:04 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2019, 11:38:04 AM
Here's an interesting article from a highly qualified personhttps://www.americanthinker.com/images/bucket/2019-10/216560_5_.png [/img]
Also, we need to ask ourselves whether the withdrawal of a few American troops really matters in the conflict either against ISIS, and did it really grant the Turkish government the "green light" to attack "terrorist" Kurds? Perhaps. The Syrian civil war which led to the rise of ISIS is over and the bloody dictator in Damascus won, thanks to the Russians and Iranians. We can blame Obama for that outcome, not Trump. And yes, the Turks have permission from Damascus to cross into Syria and they will now consolidate a buffer zone along the Syrian border to control terrorist actions fostered by the independence-minded Kurds and allow for millions of refugees to return home. I bet the U.S. would do the same if we had a similar problem on either of our borders with Mexico or Canada.
The pregnant question that Trump's critics don't answer is: Will ISIS return to fight another day? Not necessarily. Keep in mind that al Qaeda and ISIS are in many more places today than when U.S. forces first pursued them in the mountains of Afghanistan and in the northern plains of Iraq. Also, what remains of ISIS is trapped in a small area in Syria and if they make a ruckus that can be easily handled by Turkish and Russian airstrikes, and they won't bother with concerns about collateral damage.
Another point about all the fake news about the Kurdish plight is evidence of a basic misunderstanding about the Middle East, which is locked in a constant cycle of war in part because of the English and French fools that redrew the maps after World War I.
Trump's critics can learn about Middle Eastern culture by watching Lawrence of Arabia. Remember the first time that Lawrence goes into the desert his guide stops at some oasis. As the guide drinks from the well, a dark figure on a camel rides fast towards them and then shoots dead Lawrence's guide. Lawrence is stunned and asks why the Arab killed the guide. The Arab responds, "He is Hazzami. He is nothing. He knew that he could not drink from our well."
[[cc . This tale ^^ really puts it where it's at in the area]]
Yes, much of the region islocked in tribal wars and they don't want democracy.Further, and in part because of those tribal wars, we do not need to stay there another day, much less a century. Rather, let the regional players handle these problems and leave the larger security challenges like China and Russia to the United States.
Why must America get involved in every conflict around the world that is, unless you believe as some of the Trump critics do, that we are indeed the world's policeman and like former American leaders, believe in promoting democracy at the pointy end of the bayonet?
Finally, I'm a security cooperation expert helping the Pentagon work with land forces across the world. Our allies and foreign partners like us because we are ready to fight for them and more often than not give them training and equipment to settle their own challenges. I dare say the American taxpayer ought to ask whether there ought to be a limit on how much of this fighting really supports our national interests.
I'm reminded of what English statesman and General Oliver Cromwell (1599-1658) said to his troops: "Put your trust in God, but mind to keep your powder dry." That's an apropos view in the Syria account. America has too many fights ongoing now and much bigger ones ahead. For our national interests, we too must "mind to keep" our powder dry and not squander our resources on others' wars. Let's put Syria in the rearview mirror.Lt. Col. Bob Maginnis graduated from the U.S. Military Academy and is an instructor at the Army War College. He oversees a team of national security experts in the Pentagon and has more than 800 published articles on national security and geopolitical issues. His most recent books are Progressive Evil (2019), and Alliance of Evil (2018).(//https)
Great info cc. You and Gaon are our foreign policy experts. I am like a deer in the headlights reading this. It dispels misconceptions I had about the Kurds.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: cc on October 13, 2019, 09:25:42 PM
Post by: cc on October 13, 2019, 09:25:42 PM
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2019, 09:28:14 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2019, 09:28:14 PM
Lots of reports of Syrian forces headed north to confront TurkeyQuote from: "cc"
We cooked a turkey today. Do you want to sit on old Herman's knee and smoke some hash?
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: cc on October 13, 2019, 09:31:04 PM
Post by: cc on October 13, 2019, 09:31:04 PM
The ever shifting Arabia is seeing great change today and tomorrow with Syrian forces headed north to confront Turkey
As I know there will never be stability or peace in the region ... so I have no hopes for that ... my concern becomes solely about ISIS and Al Quaida being contained. That is the single element that "could" keep the US in the game
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2019, 09:34:08 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 13, 2019, 09:34:08 PM
suuuuure ... I'll pash on the hash, but big knees and turkey is always goodQuote from: "cc"
The ever shifting Arabia is seeing great change today and tomorrow with Syrian forces headed north to confront Turkey
As I know there will never be stability or peace in the region ... so I have no hopes for that ... my concern becomes solely about ISIS and Al Quaida being contained. That is the single element that "could" keep the US in the game
So, you are more of a barrel wash gal. Old Herman can accommodate your tastes.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: cc on October 14, 2019, 01:00:53 AM
Post by: cc on October 14, 2019, 01:00:53 AM
Nearly a week after the U.S. announced its decision to pull out troops from northern Syria to make way for a Turkish incursion, Kurdish forces in the country have reportedly agreed to a new deal with Damascus in a desperate bid to face off against Ankara's offensive.
The New York Times reported that the deal-- which was announced Sunday evening-- would enable President Bashar al-Assad's forces to attempt to regain a foothold in the country's northeast. The Kurdish fighters had few options after the United States abandoned them, and it had been anticipated they would turn to Assad's government for support.
"An agreement has been reached with the Syrian government — whose duty it is to protect the country's borders and preserve Syrian sovereignty — for the Syrian Army to enter and deploy along the Syrian-Turkish border to help the SDF stop this aggression" by Turkey, the SDF said in a statement.
The Washington Post reported that the deal was reached after three days of negotiations between the Kurdish forces, Russian envoys and Damascus.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Odinson on October 14, 2019, 07:26:03 AM
Post by: Odinson on October 14, 2019, 07:26:03 AM
They let Leopard 2s be destroyed against ISIS..
My tank is a Leopard 2.
They are not indestructible... None of the MBTs is indestructible..
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Odinson on October 14, 2019, 08:21:43 AM
Post by: Odinson on October 14, 2019, 08:21:43 AM
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Odinson on October 14, 2019, 08:23:55 AM
Post by: Odinson on October 14, 2019, 08:23:55 AM
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 14, 2019, 09:30:23 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 14, 2019, 09:30:23 AM
Turks suck...Quote from: "Odinson"
They let Leopard 2s be destroyed against ISIS..
My tank is a Leopard 2.
They are not indestructible... None of the MBTs is indestructible..
We don't have a single tank in our garage.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Odinson on October 14, 2019, 09:35:47 AM
Post by: Odinson on October 14, 2019, 09:35:47 AM
Turks suck...Quote from: "Odinson"
They let Leopard 2s be destroyed against ISIS..
My tank is a Leopard 2.
They are not indestructible... None of the MBTs is indestructible..
We don't have a single tank in our garage.
My reserve army tank..
I dont have a tank.. But I´m assigned to have my own tank in conflict.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 14, 2019, 11:00:25 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 14, 2019, 11:00:25 AM
Turks suck...Quote from: "Odinson"
They let Leopard 2s be destroyed against ISIS..
My tank is a Leopard 2.
They are not indestructible... None of the MBTs is indestructible..
We don't have a single tank in our garage.
My reserve army tank..
I dont have a tank.. But I´m assigned to have my own tank in conflict.
Are you still in the reserves?
Do you have to serve some time in a unit every year?
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Odinson on October 14, 2019, 02:21:46 PM
Post by: Odinson on October 14, 2019, 02:21:46 PM
Turks suck...Quote from: "Odinson"
They let Leopard 2s be destroyed against ISIS..
My tank is a Leopard 2.
They are not indestructible... None of the MBTs is indestructible..
We don't have a single tank in our garage.
My reserve army tank..
I dont have a tank.. But I´m assigned to have my own tank in conflict.
Are you still in the reserves?
Do you have to serve some time in a unit every year?
Everybody is in reserve...
Not every year but yes.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Odinson on October 14, 2019, 03:55:27 PM
Post by: Odinson on October 14, 2019, 03:55:27 PM
Not provide any kind of help.
They are never gonna learn if we clean up their mess..
Let them handle all the displaced people.. And let them do the rebuilding.
Let them bomb themselves to the golden age of Islam.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 14, 2019, 07:30:05 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 14, 2019, 07:30:05 PM
Turks suck...Quote from: "Odinson"
They let Leopard 2s be destroyed against ISIS..
My tank is a Leopard 2.
They are not indestructible... None of the MBTs is indestructible..
We don't have a single tank in our garage.
My reserve army tank..
I dont have a tank.. But I´m assigned to have my own tank in conflict.
Are you still in the reserves?
Do you have to serve some time in a unit every year?
Everybody is in reserve...
Not every year but yes.
How long do you have to serve?
No pay I assume.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Gaon on October 14, 2019, 08:09:20 PM
Post by: Gaon on October 14, 2019, 08:09:20 PM
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 14, 2019, 08:54:22 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 14, 2019, 08:54:22 PM
Assad basicially left the Kurdish area alone as he concentrated on fighting ISIL strongholds.Quote from: "Gaon"
They worked with Assad didn't they.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Odinson on October 15, 2019, 06:58:33 AM
Post by: Odinson on October 15, 2019, 06:58:33 AM
Turks suck...Quote from: "Odinson"
They let Leopard 2s be destroyed against ISIS..
My tank is a Leopard 2.
They are not indestructible... None of the MBTs is indestructible..
We don't have a single tank in our garage.
My reserve army tank..
I dont have a tank.. But I´m assigned to have my own tank in conflict.
Are you still in the reserves?
Do you have to serve some time in a unit every year?
Everybody is in reserve...
Not every year but yes.
How long do you have to serve?
No pay I assume.
For at least another 20+ years...
Pay???
You GET TO serve your country.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 15, 2019, 08:27:25 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 15, 2019, 08:27:25 AM
Turks suck...Quote from: "Odinson"
They let Leopard 2s be destroyed against ISIS..
My tank is a Leopard 2.
They are not indestructible... None of the MBTs is indestructible..
We don't have a single tank in our garage.
My reserve army tank..
I dont have a tank.. But I´m assigned to have my own tank in conflict.
Are you still in the reserves?
Do you have to serve some time in a unit every year?
Everybody is in reserve...
Not every year but yes.
How long do you have to serve?
No pay I assume.
For at least another 20+ years...
Pay???
You GET TO serve your country.
But, how long is each time you have to serve?
Is it a week, a month, how long?
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Odinson on October 15, 2019, 08:52:47 AM
Post by: Odinson on October 15, 2019, 08:52:47 AM
Turks suck...Quote from: "Odinson"
They let Leopard 2s be destroyed against ISIS..
My tank is a Leopard 2.
They are not indestructible... None of the MBTs is indestructible..
We don't have a single tank in our garage.
My reserve army tank..
I dont have a tank.. But I´m assigned to have my own tank in conflict.
Are you still in the reserves?
Do you have to serve some time in a unit every year?
Everybody is in reserve...
Not every year but yes.
How long do you have to serve?
No pay I assume.
For at least another 20+ years...
Pay???
You GET TO serve your country.
But, how long is each time you have to serve?
Is it a week, a month, how long?
It depends but its a couple of weeks..
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Odinson on October 16, 2019, 04:33:18 AM
Post by: Odinson on October 16, 2019, 04:33:18 AM
There is a lot of killing that needs to be done..
Starting with the people who say multiculturalism is enrichment..
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2019, 07:18:29 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2019, 07:18:29 AM
Turks suck...Quote from: "Odinson"
They let Leopard 2s be destroyed against ISIS..
My tank is a Leopard 2.
They are not indestructible... None of the MBTs is indestructible..
We don't have a single tank in our garage.
My reserve army tank..
I dont have a tank.. But I´m assigned to have my own tank in conflict.
Are you still in the reserves?
Do you have to serve some time in a unit every year?
Everybody is in reserve...
Not every year but yes.
How long do you have to serve?
No pay I assume.
For at least another 20+ years...
Pay???
You GET TO serve your country.
But, how long is each time you have to serve?
Is it a week, a month, how long?
It depends but its a couple of weeks..
And employers are required to hold their jobs while they serve?
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Odinson on October 16, 2019, 08:09:26 AM
Post by: Odinson on October 16, 2019, 08:09:26 AM
Turks suck...Quote from: "Odinson"
They let Leopard 2s be destroyed against ISIS..
My tank is a Leopard 2.
They are not indestructible... None of the MBTs is indestructible..
We don't have a single tank in our garage.
My reserve army tank..
I dont have a tank.. But I´m assigned to have my own tank in conflict.
Are you still in the reserves?
Do you have to serve some time in a unit every year?
Everybody is in reserve...
Not every year but yes.
How long do you have to serve?
No pay I assume.
For at least another 20+ years...
Pay???
You GET TO serve your country.
But, how long is each time you have to serve?
Is it a week, a month, how long?
It depends but its a couple of weeks..
And employers are required to hold their jobs while they serve?
Yes.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2019, 08:20:55 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2019, 08:20:55 AM
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Odinson on October 16, 2019, 01:07:38 PM
Post by: Odinson on October 16, 2019, 01:07:38 PM
No such friendship exists between western troops and the local towelheads.
The mujahideen were portrayed as "noble warriors" during the 80´s... But any force that is backed by the pakistani and the saudis, is evil..
Look how that turned out.
These jihadi joes are either terrorists or "good fellas" depending on the current American political situation..
But to your average G.I., the muslims are not friends under any circumstance.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: cc on October 16, 2019, 04:47:42 PM
Post by: cc on October 16, 2019, 04:47:42 PM
If ISIS comes back, he's cooked
Turkey is on the move - Turkish Navy has practically encircled Cyprus with almost 20 vessels, including frigates and submarines
No surprise - Erdogan has been consolidating power for a decade now ... seems dreams of Khaliphate
Also Syrian troops have moved in to tackle the Turks and help the Kurds with Russian support - A great area to not be in
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2019, 08:52:15 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2019, 08:52:15 PM
Trump has most GOP as well as the other guys against him on this one .. on the record via voteQuote from: "cc"
If ISIS comes back, he's cooked
Turkey is on the move - Turkish Navy has practically encircled Cyprus with almost 20 vessels, including frigates and submarines
No surprise - Erdogan has been consolidating power for a decade now ... seems dreams of Khaliphate
Also Syrian troops have moved in to tackle the Turks and help the Kurds with Russian support - A great area to not be in
But, the US didn't have very many troops in Syria..
Could those few troops have actually stopped Turkey?
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: cc on October 16, 2019, 08:57:54 PM
Post by: cc on October 16, 2019, 08:57:54 PM
Neither is desirable to the US
I do wonder if he would have attacked with US troops in the line of fire .. I would hope that was not behind their removal
"Don't let the world down. You can make a great deal. General Mazloum is willing to negotiate with you, and he is willing to make concessions that they never would have made in the past."
"History will look upon you favorably if you get this done the right and humane way," Trump said, adding "It will look upon you forever as the devil if good things don't happen."
"Don't be a tough guy. Don't be a fool!
I will call you later."
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2019, 09:00:43 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2019, 09:00:43 PM
No. But they would have ended up right in the middle of it all ... and either had to fight Turkey in self defense (NATO ally) or be hurt badlyQuote from: "cc"
Neither is desirable to the US
I do wonder if he would have attacked with US troops in the line of fire .. I would hope that was not behind their removal
It's possible they were removed because American intelligence knew Turkey was about to invade?
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: cc on October 16, 2019, 09:03:36 PM
Post by: cc on October 16, 2019, 09:03:36 PM
No. But they would have ended up right in the middle of it all ... and either had to fight Turkey in self defense (NATO ally) or be hurt badlyQuote from: "cc"
Neither is desirable to the US
I do wonder if he would have attacked with US troops in the line of fire .. I would hope that was not behind their removal
It's possible they were removed because American intelligence knew Turkey was about to invade?
Could be.
also see above parts of letter Trump sent him immediately - I edited it in it after you looked there ^
General Mazloum is leading syrians into the area .. and is unafraid to hit the Turks coming into Syria
Clearly he has talked to Syrian leaders and is right on top of it all - Turkey best stop and think
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2019, 09:20:09 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2019, 09:20:09 PM
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2019, 09:33:50 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2019, 09:33:50 PM
Trump has most GOP as well as the other guys against him on this one .. on the record via voteQuote from: "cc"
If ISIS comes back, he's cooked
Turkey is on the move - Turkish Navy has practically encircled Cyprus with almost 20 vessels, including frigates and submarines
No surprise - Erdogan has been consolidating power for a decade now ... seems dreams of Khaliphate
Also Syrian troops have moved in to tackle the Turks and help the Kurds with Russian support - A great area to not be in
ISIS or something like it will always come back.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: cc on October 16, 2019, 09:54:50 PM
Post by: cc on October 16, 2019, 09:54:50 PM
Still one has to deal with the currently deadly one of the moment.
We are not getting much info on what is going on in Kurdville so as to know status of IS
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2019, 10:05:47 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2019, 10:05:47 PM
We are not getting much info on what is going on in Kurdville so as to know status of IS
This is the info I have been looking for.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2019, 08:24:14 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2019, 08:24:14 AM
Trump has most GOP as well as the other guys against him on this one .. on the record via voteQuote from: "cc"
If ISIS comes back, he's cooked
Turkey is on the move - Turkish Navy has practically encircled Cyprus with almost 20 vessels, including frigates and submarines
No surprise - Erdogan has been consolidating power for a decade now ... seems dreams of Khaliphate
Also Syrian troops have moved in to tackle the Turks and help the Kurds with Russian support - A great area to not be in
Politically, Trump was screwed either way. The question is, would Erdogan have tried this with a small contingent of US soldiers in the way.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2019, 10:41:00 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2019, 10:41:00 AM
True in itself. islam is set up / worded to ensure that a % will turn deadly on its behalf ... and that deadly groups will always form from thatQuote from: "cc"
Still one has to deal with the currently deadly one of the moment.
We are not getting much info on what is going on in Kurdville so as to know status of IS
You find anything new ceec?
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2019, 12:20:36 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2019, 12:20:36 PM
True in itself. islam is set up / worded to ensure that a % will turn deadly on its behalf ... and that deadly groups will always form from thatQuote from: "cc"
Still one has to deal with the currently deadly one of the moment.
We are not getting much info on what is going on in Kurdville so as to know status of IS
You find anything new ceec?
I watched CNN for two minutes yesterday. Don't ask me why.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: cc on October 17, 2019, 01:19:08 PM
Post by: cc on October 17, 2019, 01:19:08 PM
We' ll soon see if anything came of it
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2019, 01:22:44 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2019, 01:22:44 PM
As of NOW, Pompeo and Pence have been 3hrs into meeting with ErdoganQuote from: "cc"
We' ll soon see if anything came of it
Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: cc on October 17, 2019, 01:55:50 PM
Post by: cc on October 17, 2019, 01:55:50 PM
"Deal will be permanent if safe zone is successful"
"Both agreed to holding and eliminating iSIS (Turkey would do so within 20 mile zone)- and to Turkey protecting all religious minority groups remaining within zone (not sure if including non-fighter Kurds)
Plans for considerable moneys for minorities to rebuild (US will press other countries etc for funds ... oil rich Arabs ??? hmmm)
No idea if Kurds will agree.
BTW, previously a mystery to me, the US troops were there initially to be between Turks & Kurds in a smaller safe area south of Turkey with full agreement of Kurds
If no permanent cease fire, and Turkey renews attacks .. or if Turkey screws up .. US will be "ruthless on sanctions on Turkey"
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: cc on October 17, 2019, 02:35:35 PM
Post by: cc on October 17, 2019, 02:35:35 PM
Even GOP abandoned him initially ... but If true, the best negotiating in decades .. a major solution for a part of Arabia
'most ISIS under kurds - will so remain with US $ and support"
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2019, 02:45:50 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2019, 02:45:50 PM
Not positive myself, but trump says kurds are happy with itQuote from: "cc"
Even GOP abandoned him initially ... but If true, the best negotiating in decades .. a major solution for a part of Arabia
'most ISIS under kurds - will so remain with US $ and support"
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: cc on October 17, 2019, 03:30:13 PM
Post by: cc on October 17, 2019, 03:30:13 PM
He has broken his word before, even with trump before he knew Trump better
"There was a very strong "Or Else" given to the Turk BTW
IF Kurds agree, and it would be suicide and set back their cause if they do not ... this could work WELL so long as a strong and willing to sanction Turkey's ass off Trump in power in the US
Turkey gets its safe area and Kurds get left alone by Turkey .. and a chance to build their own place if they continue to hold off Syria whose land it is technically .. other minorities left alone etc. although there will be fighting below the safe zone between Kurds and Syria
An "O" would be a "0" .. and Erdogan to do what he wanted .. and same old would continue (Kurds and all groups in the area would continue being slaughtered by Turkey and ISIS could start again)
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2019, 03:57:56 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2019, 03:57:56 PM
Erdogan says ""Pause" not ceasefireQuote from: "cc"
He has broken his word before, even with trump before he knew Trump better
"There was a very strong "Or Else" given to the Turk BTW:wink:
IF Kurds agree, and it would be suicide and set back their cause if they do not ... this could work WELL so long as a strong and willing to sanction Turkey's ass off Trump in power in the US
Turkey gets its safe area and Kurds get left alone by Turkey .. and a chance to build their own place if they continue to hold off Syria whose land it is technically .. other minorities left alone etc. although there will be fighting below the safe zone between Kurds and Syria
An "O" would be a "0" .. and Erdogan to do what he wanted .. and same old would continue (Kurds and all groups in the area would continue being slaughtered by Turkey and ISIS could start again)
I hope this works. If it does, Trump is a foreign affairs genius just like he is with the economy.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: cc on October 17, 2019, 04:57:25 PM
Post by: cc on October 17, 2019, 04:57:25 PM
I'm sure the events were all know and considered ... then waiting game began ... then proposed meeting ... I'm only surprised he didn't go himself (his style), but apparently he was on speakerphone when needed throughout
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Odinson on October 17, 2019, 05:41:49 PM
Post by: Odinson on October 17, 2019, 05:41:49 PM
Make the Byzantine empire christian again.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2019, 06:23:26 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2019, 06:23:26 PM
Yes. He was unafraid to take GREAT criticism "abandoning allies, ISIS will get loose" ... afraid of Erdogen" etc etc ... continued his plan and may have pulled it of .. mission accomplishedQuote from: "cc"
I'm sure the events were all know and considered ... then waiting game began ... then proposed meeting ... I'm only surprised he didn't go himself (his style), but apparently he was on speakerphone when needed throughout
I like it, but it could easily go sideways.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Odinson on October 17, 2019, 07:50:06 PM
Post by: Odinson on October 17, 2019, 07:50:06 PM
In Korea, it is twenty six months service for males and you are done.Quote from: "seoulbro"
And you´ve been through it?
How was it?
South-Korean military conscripts probably have some actual duties.. Like patrolling the border.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2019, 07:51:43 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2019, 07:51:43 PM
Maybe the american re-conquer Constantinople..Quote from: "Odinson"
Make the Byzantine empire christian again.
I like the sounds of that.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: cc on October 17, 2019, 09:20:51 PM
Post by: cc on October 17, 2019, 09:20:51 PM
True enough. In that islamic world, anything can happen as "keeping of the word" is not one of its plus'sYes. He was unafraid to take GREAT criticism "abandoning allies, ISIS will get loose" ... afraid of Erdogen" etc etc ... continued his plan and may have pulled it of .. mission accomplishedQuote from: "cc"
I'm sure the events were all know and considered ... then waiting game began ... then proposed meeting ... I'm only surprised he didn't go himself (his style), but apparently he was on speakerphone when needed throughout
I like it, but it could easily go sideways.
That said, this plan is all logical and has a great chance of success .. a lot of the future in that area will depend on Erdogan's ambitions
like Khaliphe!!!
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2019, 10:21:59 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 17, 2019, 10:21:59 PM
Yes. He was unafraid to take GREAT criticism "abandoning allies, ISIS will get loose" ... afraid of Erdogen" etc etc ... continued his plan and may have pulled it of .. mission accomplishedQuote from: "cc"
I'm sure the events were all know and considered ... then waiting game began ... then proposed meeting ... I'm only surprised he didn't go himself (his style), but apparently he was on speakerphone when needed throughout
I like it, but it could easily go sideways.
That said, this plan is all logical and has a great chance of success .. a lot of the future in that area will depend on Erdogan's ambitions
like Khaliphe!!!ac_biggrin
I'm glad there is at least some hope.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Gaon on October 17, 2019, 11:00:59 PM
Post by: Gaon on October 17, 2019, 11:00:59 PM
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: cc on October 18, 2019, 12:39:45 AM
Post by: cc on October 18, 2019, 12:39:45 AM
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 18, 2019, 12:43:48 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 18, 2019, 12:43:48 AM
One thing that worries me about this is escaped ISIS prisoners.Quote from: "Gaon"
How many are we talking about here?
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: cc on October 18, 2019, 02:06:48 AM
Post by: cc on October 18, 2019, 02:06:48 AM
Several 100One thing that worries me about this is escaped ISIS prisoners.Quote from: "Gaon"
How many are we talking about here?
Dunno if they got them back. Not sure if males or families
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 18, 2019, 07:11:17 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 18, 2019, 07:11:17 AM
One thing that worries me about this is escaped ISIS prisoners.Quote from: "Gaon"
How many are we talking about here?
Dunno if they got them back. Not sure if males or families
Where did they go?
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Odinson on October 18, 2019, 07:24:32 AM
Post by: Odinson on October 18, 2019, 07:24:32 AM
One thing that worries me about this is escaped ISIS prisoners.Quote from: "Gaon"
How many are we talking about here?
Dunno if they got them back. Not sure if males or families
Where did they go?
Under your bed and in your closet..
You gotta check for them when you go to sleep.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 18, 2019, 07:30:13 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 18, 2019, 07:30:13 AM
One thing that worries me about this is escaped ISIS prisoners.Quote from: "Gaon"
How many are we talking about here?
Dunno if they got them back. Not sure if males or families
Where did they go?
Under your bed and in your closet..
You gotta check for them when you go to sleep.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 18, 2019, 08:11:31 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 18, 2019, 08:11:31 AM
One thing that worries me about this is escaped ISIS prisoners.Quote from: "Gaon"
Wouldn't it be low level sympathizers? Key figures would have been summarily executed.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Odinson on October 18, 2019, 12:21:48 PM
Post by: Odinson on October 18, 2019, 12:21:48 PM
They believe in the caliphate... They believe it will rise again..
They say everything was fine until the bombing started...
To them, we are the bad guys.
Girls have been killed in those camps for not wearing the burkha... By other women..
There is no such thing as a low level sympathizer...
They dont even try to keep their opinions secret because they know that we white-guilt suffering retards wont kill them for Anti-west agendas.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 18, 2019, 12:38:00 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 18, 2019, 12:38:00 PM
Have you heard the interviews of the ISIS-wives and other ISIS prisoners...Quote from: "Odinson"
They believe in the caliphate... They believe it will rise again..
They say everything was fine until the bombing started...
To them, we are the bad guys.
Girls have been killed in those camps for not wearing the burkha... By other women..
There is no such thing as a low level sympathizer...
They dont even try to keep their opinions secret because they know that we white-guilt suffering retards wont kill them for Anti-west agendas.
Of course they believe it. They are brainwashed. ISIS is an ultra-violent cult.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 18, 2019, 05:52:38 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 18, 2019, 05:52:38 PM
Have you heard the interviews of the ISIS-wives and other ISIS prisoners...Quote from: "Odinson"
They believe in the caliphate... They believe it will rise again..
They say everything was fine until the bombing started...
To them, we are the bad guys.
Girls have been killed in those camps for not wearing the burkha... By other women..
There is no such thing as a low level sympathizer...
They dont even try to keep their opinions secret because they know that we white-guilt suffering retards wont kill them for Anti-west agendas.
Of course they believe it. They are brainwashed. ISIS is an ultra-violent cult.
Their power is the threat of violence, not mind control.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Gaon on October 19, 2019, 12:08:44 AM
Post by: Gaon on October 19, 2019, 12:08:44 AM
Have you heard the interviews of the ISIS-wives and other ISIS prisoners...Quote from: "Odinson"
They believe in the caliphate... They believe it will rise again..
They say everything was fine until the bombing started...
To them, we are the bad guys.
Girls have been killed in those camps for not wearing the burkha... By other women..
There is no such thing as a low level sympathizer...
They dont even try to keep their opinions secret because they know that we white-guilt suffering retards wont kill them for Anti-west agendas.
Of course they believe it. They are brainwashed. ISIS is an ultra-violent cult.
Their power is the threat of violence, not mind control.
They use brainwashing too.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Odinson on October 22, 2019, 05:01:21 PM
Post by: Odinson on October 22, 2019, 05:01:21 PM
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2019, 06:45:58 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2019, 06:45:58 PM
The turkish military is just as incompetent as the rest of the middle-eastern militaries.Quote from: "Odinson"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YafzmkvVRiI
They used to have a very strong military.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2019, 12:49:56 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2019, 12:49:56 PM
In Korea, it is twenty six months service for males and you are done.Quote from: "seoulbro"
And you´ve been through it?
How was it?
South-Korean military conscripts probably have some actual duties.. Like patrolling the border.
No, I came to Canada when I was two. A lot of Koreans emigrate so their sons can avoid military service.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2019, 10:09:35 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2019, 10:09:35 PM
His remarks were made at a NATO defense ministers' meeting in Brussels, amid efforts by the Pentagon to pick up the tattered remnants of the American military's efforts to defeat the Islamic State.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Odinson on October 29, 2019, 04:42:19 PM
Post by: Odinson on October 29, 2019, 04:42:19 PM
Siding with some islamic tribe has no benefit to the USA..
There are bigger wars coming...
Iran is just begging for an ass whooping.
Maybe China...
We need the biggest war in the 21st century.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2019, 07:39:01 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2019, 07:39:01 PM
There is a shitload of wisdom in not dragging USA into another proxy war.Quote from: "Odinson"
Siding with some islamic tribe has no benefit to the USA..
There are bigger wars coming...
Iran is just begging for an ass whooping.
Maybe China...
We need the biggest war in the 21st century.
I like Trump's foreign policy. Beats the hell out of the three before him.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on October 30, 2019, 11:41:47 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 30, 2019, 11:41:47 PM
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Gaon on November 02, 2019, 04:11:06 PM
Post by: Gaon on November 02, 2019, 04:11:06 PM
The YPG is an armed group that had been formed by underground Kurdish political parties at the start of the Syrian civil war. For the Kurds, the members of this latest militia were heroes and liberators. To the Turks, they were terrorists, an off-shoot of the Kurdistan Workers' Party, or PKK, which has fought a long and bloody insurgency in Turkey.Quote from: "Shen Li"
A renamed PKK is still a problem for Turkey.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on November 03, 2019, 11:05:59 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 03, 2019, 11:05:59 AM
ISTANBUL — A car bomb killed a dozen people and wounded 30 Saturday in a market of a Syrian border town that Turkish-backed forces seized last month, prompting Ankara to blame the Kurdish YPG militia it had targeted in its incursion.
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said pro-turkey fighters and civilians were among the dead and wounded in Tel Abyad.
Turkey's state-owned Anadolu Agency said 13 were killed after a "bomb-laden vehicle" exploded.
Tel Abyad is one of two major border towns that saw the heaviest fighting when Ankara launched the incursion on Oct. 9 against the Syrian Kurdish YPG that drew international condemnation.
The YPG had for years been allied to the United States in the fight against Islamic State.
The explosion comes after two weeks of relative calm in northeastern Syria, and a day after Turkish and Russian troops began joint ground patrols under a deal between the two countries that pushed the YPG from Turkey's border.
While Moscow has said the YPG have withdrawn to at least 30 km from the border under the deal, Ankara has been skeptical and held out the possibility of new attacks if members of what it sees as a terrorist group remain.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Odinson on November 07, 2019, 12:54:50 AM
Post by: Odinson on November 07, 2019, 12:54:50 AM
The turkish military is just as incompetent as the rest of the middle-eastern militaries.Quote from: "Odinson"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YafzmkvVRiI
They used to have a very strong military.
Back in the Ottoman era.
Now they got some modern gear but the tactics are all very much like in some hillbilly jihadist army.
Title: Re: Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan
Post by: Anonymous on November 07, 2019, 06:33:05 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 07, 2019, 06:33:05 AM
The turkish military is just as incompetent as the rest of the middle-eastern militaries.Quote from: "Odinson"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YafzmkvVRiI
They used to have a very strong military.
Back in the Ottoman era.
Now they got some modern gear but the tactics are all very much like in some hillbilly jihadist army.
They were major players in the Korean war. They punch above their weight class in NATO.