Title: RIP Canada
Post by: Anonymous on October 21, 2019, 11:28:48 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 21, 2019, 11:28:48 PM
Andrew Scheer is updating his resume on Indeed.
Title: Re: RIP Canada
Post by: Anonymous on October 21, 2019, 11:32:08 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 21, 2019, 11:32:08 PM
Title: Re: RIP Canada
Post by: cc on October 22, 2019, 12:47:19 AM
Post by: cc on October 22, 2019, 12:47:19 AM
Our Con gal came through in my riding ... although a last minute independent flash caused us to vote for Max's guy as a protest or a spit in the eye of the intolerable status quo libs and cons (actually lib lite) .. or something like that.
I feel better about myself having done it
Title: Re: RIP Canada
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2019, 01:00:22 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2019, 01:00:22 AM
Title: Re: RIP Canada
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2019, 01:35:50 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2019, 01:35:50 AM
Title: Re: RIP Canada
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2019, 02:44:50 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2019, 02:44:50 AM
Title: Re: RIP Canada
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2019, 10:09:35 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2019, 10:09:35 AM
Title: Re: RIP Canada
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2019, 10:25:16 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2019, 10:25:16 AM
Title: Re: RIP Canada
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2019, 11:12:23 AM
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2019, 11:12:23 AM
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Title: Re: RIP Canada
Post by: Gaon on October 22, 2019, 01:20:18 PM
Post by: Gaon on October 22, 2019, 01:20:18 PM
Title: Re: RIP Canada
Post by: Zetsu on October 22, 2019, 02:52:00 PM
Post by: Zetsu on October 22, 2019, 02:52:00 PM
Title: Re: RIP Canada
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2019, 03:08:53 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2019, 03:08:53 PM
It's like a bad dream, I feel bad for all the people's who's career, life, and future is ruined by this idiot.Quote from: "Zetsu"
My husband could be one of those people destroyed by the Trudeau government.
Title: Re: RIP Canada
Post by: Zetsu on October 22, 2019, 03:42:01 PM
Post by: Zetsu on October 22, 2019, 03:42:01 PM
It's like a bad dream, I feel bad for all the people's who's career, life, and future is ruined by this idiot.Quote from: "Zetsu"
My husband could be one of those people destroyed by the Trudeau government.
Trudeau seems awfully ignorant giving away an impression it's all fun and games to him. Can only take but never give or offer any productivity ever in return.
Title: Re: RIP Canada
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2019, 03:43:12 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2019, 03:43:12 PM
By Lorrie Goldstein of Sun News Media
Electing Trudeau means more carbon taxes
With Prime Minister Justin Trudeau winning the most seats in Monday's election, Canadians will pay escalating carbon taxes for years to come.
That was always true, whether he won a majority government, or a minority one.
Since the NDP, Bloc Quebecois and Greens all support carbon pricing, Trudeau can rely on them to back his carbon pricing regime in a minority Parliament.
Trudeau's carbon tax on provinces that do not have their own federally-approved carbon pricing plans sets the minimum price on industrial greenhouse gas emissions at $20 per tonne this year, rising by $10 annually to $50 per tonne, in 2022.
The Trudeau government provides rebates, which it insists covers all the added costs to the public.
Critics are not only skeptical of this claim, they point out that even carbon taxes that start out as revenue neutral — as British Columbia's did in 2008 — eventually abandon revenue neutrality and become cash grabs for government.
What happens to Trudeau's carbon tax after 2022 is unclear, as Environment Minister Catherine Mckenna initially said the Trudeau government would freeze it at $50 in 2022, but later backed off, saying the Liberals haven't made a decision, meaning it could go higher.
Since the NDP, Bloc and Greens all outlined more stringent climate polices than Trudeau during the campaign, if Trudeau needs their support in a minority Parliament, they could demand he raise his carbon tax much higher than $50 per tonne in 2022, to anywhere from $100 to $300 per tonne of emissions by 2030.
The only way this would not happen is if Conservative leader Andrew Scheer had won an absolute majority of seats in Parliament — at least 170 — since he had promised to scrap the tax as his first order of business.
Alternatively, if Scheer had been within a few seats of 170, he might have been able to beat back carbon taxation because in that case, a Liberal, NDP, Bloc, Green alliance against Scheer, allowing Trudeau to continue as PM, even though he lost the election, while constitutionally legal, would anger many Canadians.
That's what happened in 2008 when then-conservative PM Stephen Harper won the election and increased his seat count in a minority Parliament, but the Liberals, NDP and Bloc cooked up a deal to install the unpopular Liberal leader Stephane Dion as prime minster, even though the Liberals lost the election and ended up with fewer seats than they had in 2006.
The plan was thwarted when then-governor general Michaëlle Jean granted Harper's request to prorogue Parliament, meaning the opposition parties could not pass a non-confidence motion causing Harper's government to fall.
But at that point, the attempted coup was already highly unpopular with the public.
But that's all water under the bridge now.
Given a Trudeau government, the last stand of the provinces that oppose his carbon tax will be in court challenges to his legislation.
Ontario and Saskatchewan have lost their legal cases against it in split decisions in provincial courts, but the issue will ultimately be decided by the Supreme Court of Canada.
As for the effectiveness of Trudeau's carbon tax, no credible body that has examined it believes that in its current form it will achieve the commitments to reduce emissions the PM made on behalf of Canada in the 2015 Paris climate accord.
This includes the United Nations, Canada's environment commissioner, and nine of 10 provincial auditors general, the parliamentary budget officer and the government's own study.
Liberal and Conservative governments have been setting and failing to meet their emission reduction targets for 30 years. That won't change.
Title: Re: RIP Canada
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2019, 04:53:50 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2019, 04:53:50 PM
The entire government, the entire Liberal Party has become all about Justin Trudeau. It's not a political party anymore, it's a movement as Trudeau calls it or a cult as his detractors call it. Most Canadians it seems, don't want to join a cult.
In Quebec, where the Liberals had hoped to win more seats and save their majority status, voters turned overwhelmingly to the Bloc Quebecois. It's one of the stains of Trudeau's record that separatism is on the rise again. The Bloc were left for dead and just 10 months ago didn't even have a leader.
Now the party that wants to take Quebec out of Canada is a powerhouse again.
Even with Trudeau's Liberals being reduced to a minority we can expect a separatist sentiment to rise up in another part of the country, Western Canada. Alberta and Saskatchewan overwhelmingly backed the Conservatives and voted for their own future and the future of their oil and gas industry.
The future of that industry is now in jeopardy as the Liberals hold government but must turn to the NDP and Greens for support. Both of those parties hold the view that there should be no more pipelines built and oil should stay in the ground.
Voters in Western Canada will now look with disdain on their fellow Canadians who have turned their backs on a key driver of Canada's wealth. There has been increasing talk of turning off the equalization taps to Eastern Canada if the oil industry is not supported.
Monday's vote says the majority of people in Eastern Canada want oil money without the oil.
Under Trudeau we are seeing the rise of both Quebec separatism and the birth of Western separatism.
The calls of the "West Wants Out" will only get louder now.
Despite Trudeau's purchase of a pipeline and claims that he will get it built, that is unlikely to happen. As his own star candidate Steven Guilbeault said just the other day, pipelines are a thing of the past in Canada.
"I think that now that we have a real evaluation and impact assessment for projects, we will come to the conclusion that many of these projects are incompatible with the goals we have for 2030," Guilbeault said.
Can you ever imagine that Western provinces would vote to put an end to the auto industry or to Quebec's dairy or forestry industries?
That would never happen, nor should it happen to Alberta and Saskatchewan.
We have been through a very nasty, bitter and divisive campaign. What we have seen over the last 40 days is nothing compared to what we will see over the coming months if Trudeau and the other parties act on their promises.
Canada is a truly divided country now.
Depending how far and how fast the Trudeau and the NDP crutch decide to move, Justin Trudeau could be the last pm of a united Canada.
Title: Re: RIP Canada
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2019, 05:02:25 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2019, 05:02:25 PM
If that's not division, what is? There are now three distinct Canadas — the Prairies, Quebec and the Rest.
Trudeau said "From coast to coast, tonight, Canadians rejected division and negativity," he said. "They rejected cuts and austerity, and they voted in favour of a progressive agenda and strong action on climate change.
"I have heard you, my friends. You are sending our Liberal team back to work; back to Ottawa with a clear mandate."
A rejection of "division and negativity?" A "clear mandate?"
The man is clearly delusional.
Title: Re: RIP Canada
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2019, 06:44:15 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2019, 06:44:15 PM
Title: Re: RIP Canada
Post by: Anonymous on October 23, 2019, 06:36:12 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 23, 2019, 06:36:12 PM
One thing that's certain, a Liberal minority is going to be expensive.
The last time Canada had a Liberal minority propped up by the NDP was under Pierre Trudeau between 1972 and 1974. In order to keep the NDP happy with increased social programs, the Liberals back then ramped up federal spending by 27% in just two budgets, even after adjusting for inflation and population growth.
During this year's election,
Expect much of that to be delivered by the Liberals in return for NDP support.
And, of course,
The Libs are also now the party of the Greater Toronto Area (the GTA). That's the only region of the country in which they held their own in Tuesday's election. Everywhere else they lost popularity and seats — but not the GTA.
And that means Ottawa will get bigger and more expensive, too, because GTA voters love big government.
They must. The Liberals dominated in that region on Monday because they successfully tied Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer to the cuts being made provincially by Conservative Premier Doug Ford.
Never mind that Scheer wasn't proposing real cuts to Ottawa's spending. He just promised to slow increases until federal spending was a little more manageable. Still, that was enough to scare GTA voters into supporting Trudeau — again.
While I'm on the twin topics of Ontario and Andrew Scheer, let me argue that the Tories must get rid of Scheer before the next election if they hope to save Canada from a third consecutive Trudeau government.
I spent much of the campaign trying to decide whether Scheer was more like Robert Stanfield (the very able former Nova Scotia premier who lost three federal elections to Pierre Trudeau) or Joe Clark (the ineffective, short-term PM wedged in between two Liberal majorities).
Then it struck me, Scheer is most like Tim Hudak, the inept former Ontario Conservative leader who bumbled and stumbled his way to two consecutive losses against beatable Liberal governments.
Like Hudak, Scheer was incapable of anticipating tough questions that were going to arise during the campaign, then fumbled his answers badly when they were inevitably asked.
Hudak lost the 2014 Ontario election in the first week when he was asked how he planned to reconcile his pledge of a million new jobs with his promise to cut 100,000 public-sector jobs. Although that was a perfectly predictable question, Hudak had no good answer.
Compare that to Scheer's vacillating answers when asked about abortion, samesex marriage, hiring a consulting firm to dig up dirt on People's Party leader Maxime Bernier, his padded resume or his dual Canadian-american citizenship.
Then there were Scheer's unremarkable policy planks that in many cases could be called Liberal-lite.
Scheer improved his party's standing in his first election as leader. But so did Hudak. The bigger lesson should have been both men failed to beat highly vulnerable opponents.
Justin Trudeau was the most beatable PM since Kim Campbell in 1993. Yet despite his scandals and policy failures, Scheer couldn't topple Trudeau.
In all likelihood, it's downhill from here for Scheer.
In his second provincial election in 2014, Hudak lost ground despite going up against Liberal Kathleen Wynne, whose party was mired in controversy and public debt.
I expect the same fate for Scheer and the Conservatives if he is around as leader for the next federal campaign.
Title: Re: RIP Canada
Post by: Anonymous on October 23, 2019, 08:49:36 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 23, 2019, 08:49:36 PM
Title: Re: RIP Canada
Post by: cc on October 23, 2019, 09:04:07 PM
Post by: cc on October 23, 2019, 09:04:07 PM
I feel better about myself having done it
Title: Re: RIP Canada
Post by: Anonymous on October 23, 2019, 09:23:04 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 23, 2019, 09:23:04 PM
We did also - we knew the conservative would win our riding, so did a protest voteQuote from: "cc"
I feel better about myself having done it
That would have been too risky in my riding.
Title: Re: RIP Canada
Post by: cc on October 23, 2019, 09:31:23 PM
Post by: cc on October 23, 2019, 09:31:23 PM
Title: Re: RIP Canada
Post by: Odinson on October 23, 2019, 10:55:40 PM
Post by: Odinson on October 23, 2019, 10:55:40 PM
And so did Kreml.
Title: Re: RIP Canada
Post by: Anonymous on October 23, 2019, 11:03:40 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 23, 2019, 11:03:40 PM
We are going to see and hear a lot about this aspectQuote from: "cc"(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://www.blazingcatfur.ca/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/alberta-transfers.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://www.blazingcatfur.ca/wp-content%20...%20nsfers.jpg%22%3Ehttps://www.blazingcatfur.ca/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/alberta-transfers.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
I took a look at the #Wexit..
There are a lot of people telling Albertans and Saskatchewaners to stop whining.
Ottawa would never do anything to harm Ontario's auto industry or Quebec's dairy industry.
Title: Re: RIP Canada
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2019, 01:48:53 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2019, 01:48:53 PM
Votes for the People's Party of Canada may have cost the Conservatives up to six ridings in Monday's federal election, an analysis of election results shows.
Polling before the election showed the Conservatives were the second choice of about half of PPC voters, according to polling done by Ipsos, implying about one PPC voters in two would have voted Conservative if the party hadn't existed.
"The data suggests that the Conservative Party would likely get around half of the vote from the People's Party, understanding that for many people the People's Party was a none-of-the-above vote," says Sean Simpson of Ipsos.
In five ridings Liberals won Monday, the Conservative vote total plus half the PPC vote total is higher than the Liberal candidate's.
With half the PPC votes added, the Conservatives win these close ridings:
Miramichi-Grand Lake (Liberal by 414 votes)
Kitchener-Conestoga (Liberal by 273 votes)
Richmond Hill (Liberal by 112 votes)
Yukon (Liberal by 72 votes)
Coquitlam-Port Coquitlam (Liberal by 339 votes)
In a sixth riding, South Okanagan-West Kootenay, adding half the PPC votes to the Conservatives' results in a two-vote NDP victory, which would have meant an automatic recount. With so small a margin, it's hard to predict how that would have been resolved. (On Monday, the NDP won the riding by 796 votes)
Not enough to make a difference, but five more seats would be nice.
Title: Re: RIP Canada
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2019, 03:04:36 PM
Post by: Anonymous on October 24, 2019, 03:04:36 PM
People's Party may have cost the Tories 6 ridings on election night
Votes for the People's Party of Canada may have cost the Conservatives up to six ridings in Monday's federal election, an analysis of election results shows.
Polling before the election showed the Conservatives were the second choice of about half of PPC voters, according to polling done by Ipsos, implying about one PPC voters in two would have voted Conservative if the party hadn't existed.
"The data suggests that the Conservative Party would likely get around half of the vote from the People's Party, understanding that for many people the People's Party was a none-of-the-above vote," says Sean Simpson of Ipsos.
In five ridings Liberals won Monday, the Conservative vote total plus half the PPC vote total is higher than the Liberal candidate's.
With half the PPC votes added, the Conservatives win these close ridings:
Miramichi-Grand Lake (Liberal by 414 votes)
Kitchener-Conestoga (Liberal by 273 votes)
Richmond Hill (Liberal by 112 votes)
Yukon (Liberal by 72 votes)
Coquitlam-Port Coquitlam (Liberal by 339 votes)
In a sixth riding, South Okanagan-West Kootenay, adding half the PPC votes to the Conservatives' results in a two-vote NDP victory, which would have meant an automatic recount. With so small a margin, it's hard to predict how that would have been resolved. (On Monday, the NDP won the riding by 796 votes)https://globalnews.ca/news/6071771/ppc-conservative-spoiler-election/
Not enough to make a difference, but five more seats would be nice.
I was hoping the PPC would win at least one seat.
Title: Re: RIP Canada
Post by: Anonymous on November 06, 2019, 06:41:55 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 06, 2019, 06:41:55 AM
Call it Justin Trudeau's Kiss Alberta Goodbye strategy.
If reports on Tuesday are accurate, when the prime minister returns to work from his post-election surfing vacation, he will appoint a cabinet that doubles his efforts to build a "green" economy and battle climate change.
No doubt this is what he himself truly wants, but it is also a suck up to the NDP and Bloc to keep his minority government in power.
Oh, yes, and Trudeau supposedly will also beef up Ottawa's intergovernmental affairs apparatus to increase outreach to the West, where his party has no representation between Winnipeg and Vancouver.
Frankly, if Trudeau is going to do the former, he can save his breath (and taxpayers' money) by not wasting any time on the latter.
If our Green Elf of a PM insists on doubling down on his eco agenda, then no amount of intergovernmental outreach will repair the rupture between Alberta and Saskatchewan and the federal government.
If Trudeau is convinced he can "phase out" the oilsands, stop pipeline construction and rob the West of tens of thousands of high-paying energy-sector jobs (to say nothing of bankrupting thousands of businesses), all while somehow magically making us feel good about it, then he is an even lighter-weight than I imagined.
But let's look just at Trudeau's supposed pledge to get even more environmental the second time around.
He seems intent on replicating the mistakes of Ontario's Green Energy plan under former premiers Dalton Mcguinty and Kathleen Wynne. This shouldn't come as a great surprise. Many of the people behind Ontario's disastrous policies in the 2000s and early 2010s are now senior advisors in the Trudeau government.
The wind turbines everywhere, the heavily subsidized solar farms that — d'uh — couldn't be connected to the power grid, the huge subsidies for exotic electric cars. All that and more, doubled electricity rates in Ontario in a period of six years. It also cost the province 200,000 jobs as manufacturers transferred operations to the States and elsewhere.
The price tag (over $50 billion) gave Ontario the highest debt of any non-national government in the world and in the end, according to the province's auditor general, there was no emission reductions.
Now the same people, re-elected by the same Greater Toronto Area voters, are intent on inflicting the same useless, expensive suffering on the entire country — and in the process driving Alberta to the brink of separation.
Trudeau's save-the-planet obsession will drive away jobs and investments nationally, as effectively Ontario's schemes did provincially.
Already, Statistics Canada figures show a loss of over $100 billion in energy investment since the Liberals took over in 2015 (and that was before Encana left the country).
Plus, on Monday, the Conference Board projected that Trudeau's carbon tax alone will cost the Canadian (not just the Western) economy up to 50,000 jobs as manufacturers, mining companies, chemical producers, pulp and paper mills and oil and gas companies vacate the country. That will rob Canadians of tens of billions in income, while our emissions will simply be transferred elsewhere.
I have little doubt that Trudeau and his closest advisors are convinced it will be simple to convert to a carbon-free economy, that Canada will prosper by showing the world a future powered by wind, solar, bug burps and unicorn flatulence is possible.
But if he thinks he can somehow woo the West by promising us all jobs as solarpanel installers and relationship counsellors, he may as well call his strategy Kiss Alberta Goodbye.
Our energy workers aren't dumb enough to think they can earn the same livings writing code for smartphone apps or learning to serve organic, fair-trade, pour-over coffee.
Title: Re: RIP Canada
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2022, 02:09:01 PM
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2022, 02:09:01 PM
In an interview with The West Block's Mercedes Stephenson, Kenney reiterated concerns with the federal government's policies on protecting the environment: specifically, a ban on tanker traffic on B.C's north coast and major changes to the structure of how the impacts of oil and gas projects get assessed.
His assessment of Trudeau's environment minister, former Equiterre activist Steven Guilbeault, was blunt.
Kenney called him an "environmental extremist," and said his appointment to the role remains "very concerning" to Albertans.
In particular, the question of how best to get to net-zero emissions by 2050 is one that continues to be a challenging prospect.
Trudeau has doubled down repeatedly on that commitment, and Alberta's economy is still struggling amid years of ongoing volatility to the price of oil and the world weighs similar questions about transitioning to greener technology and renewable energies.
Kenney argued the answer is not about turning off Alberta oil and gas, but about developing better emission reduction technologies.
"We hope the federal government, instead of just hammering the biggest job-creating industry in the country, works with us to develop, adopt technologies like expanding carbon capture utilization and storage that can help those energy companies achieve their net-zero goals," he said.