Dunno how this will affect the future of IS .. maybe a lot, maybe little depending on how it is set up
.. he chose the easy islamic / coward's way out ... detonated an explosive vest as U.S. Special Operations Forces stormed his compound in the Idrib Province .. died whimpering at the end of a dead-end tunnel.
His final act killed 5 others including 2 of his wives
the U.S. had al-Baghdadi under surveillance for weeks.
Look at the CNN youtube video about this...
They are gonna start an investigation on Trumps hate against dogs..
:roll:
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Dunno how this will affect the future of IS .. maybe a lot, maybe little depending on how it is set up
.. he chose the easy islamic / coward's way out ... detonated an explosive vest as U.S. Special Operations Forces stormed his compound in the Idrib Province .. died whimpering at the end of a dead-end tunnel.
His final act killed 5 others including 2 of his wives
the U.S. had al-Baghdadi under surveillance for weeks.
What happened?
When I read this, I thought Baghdad had fallen into the hands of anti-government rebels.
No. US multiple helicopter mission
Knew door was "loaded" so blasted holes in walls - went in and did what needed done -
Lots of DNA proof "readily accessible " as he blew himself up
Now the US is going back into Syria with more troops than they had before.
Not sure what you mean. This? .. it was a specific in / out mission ... a brief task
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Not sure what you mean. This? .. it was a specific in / out mission ... a brief task
I haven't been following it, but I thought the US sent troops into Syria to protect oil fields.
"austere religious scholar"
https://www.foxnews.com/media/washington-post-al-baghdadi-obituary-headline-isis
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"austere religious scholar"
https://www.foxnews.com/media/washington-post-al-baghdadi-obituary-headline-isis
Is that how they describe the psychopath.
Yes, it was
enemies are relatively easy (at least are clear cut and attackable)
it's frienemies within like Wapo are most dangerous
On the lighter side - Social media users mocked the paper by writing death notices for other historic figures who committed crimes and atrocities.
"#WaPoDeathNotices Genghis Khan, accomplished horseman and indefatigable traveler, breathes his last," Bard College professor and Wall Stree Journal columnist Walter Russel Mead wrote.
"Adolf Hitler, passionate community planner and dynamic public speaker, dies at 56.#WaPoDeathNotices," wrote Jason Howerton.
The B-Daddy... POW!
WaPo :crazy:
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Dunno how this will affect the future of IS .. maybe a lot, maybe little depending on how it is set up
.. he chose the easy islamic / coward's way out ... detonated an explosive vest as U.S. Special Operations Forces stormed his compound in the Idrib Province .. died whimpering at the end of a dead-end tunnel.
His final act killed 5 others including 2 of his wives
the U.S. had al-Baghdadi under surveillance for weeks.
The USA killed Osama Bin Laden and that didn't end terror.
Ending terror killing must NEVER be thought of as the objective - We will never end terror - The kranny insures it will always exist
However, the realistic effort must be to capture or kill leaders on down through the ranks as it reduces the number of its victims
With leaders, that "reduction" element is magnified as it is they who inspire and plan killings by so many others
+ Actually, Al Q has not been effective since killing its "spiritual" leader, indicating it works - I do expect they will become a huge force in future - meantime many lives have been saved
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Ending terror killing must NEVER be thought of as the objective - We will never end terror - The kranny insures it will always exist
However, the realistic effort must be to capture or kill leaders on down through the ranks as it reduces the number of its victims
With leaders, that "reduction" element is magnified as it is they who inspire and plan killings by so many others
Okay, so killing or capturing leading figures is the best we can hope for.
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Dunno how this will affect the future of IS .. maybe a lot, maybe little depending on how it is set up
.. he chose the easy islamic / coward's way out ... detonated an explosive vest as U.S. Special Operations Forces stormed his compound in the Idrib Province .. died whimpering at the end of a dead-end tunnel.
His final act killed 5 others including 2 of his wives
the U.S. had al-Baghdadi under surveillance for weeks.
May he burn in hell.
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Ending terror killing must NEVER be thought of as the objective - We will never end terror - The kranny insures it will always exist
However, the realistic effort must be to capture or kill leaders on down through the ranks as it reduces the number of its victims
With leaders, that "reduction" element is magnified as it is they who inspire and plan killings by so many others
Okay, so killing or capturing leading figures is the best we can hope for.
Not the best - That and breaking plots of lower level killers and eliminating lower level players " are the best we can hope for."
Many choosing the "kill for allah" role (one of many self-chosen risk / heavenly reward roles) is built into the kranny ... thus is kranny- guaranteed to continue .. so long as islam exists
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Ending terror killing must NEVER be thought of as the objective - We will never end terror - The kranny insures it will always exist
However, the realistic effort must be to capture or kill leaders on down through the ranks as it reduces the number of its victims
With leaders, that "reduction" element is magnified as it is they who inspire and plan killings by so many others
Okay, so killing or capturing leading figures is the best we can hope for.
Not the best - That and breaking plots of lower level killers and eliminating lower level players " is the best we can hope for."
Many choosing the "kill for allah" role (one of many self-chosen risk / heavenly reward roles) is built into the kranny ... thus is kranny- guaranteed to continue .. so long as islam exists
Infiltration is the best we can do. That is how we uncover and stop planned attacks.
So much for all that "expert" opinion in the last few weeks in the mainstream media that President Trump's pullout of U.S. troops from Syria would inevitably bring the recrudescence of ISIS.
Who knows. With the timing, maybe their pullout made the deeply holed up for years guy more willing to move around and be spotted?
Russia was told they were "going after IS" (and no more) - so they cooperated in staying clear of US planes used
Apparently he used his own kids as cover between him and US troops .. then blew himself and them up
Having gotten so many to die and / or be captured for him, in the end he was a lowlife coward who did everything possible to not be captured
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Ending terror killing must NEVER be thought of as the objective - We will never end terror - The kranny insures it will always exist
However, the realistic effort must be to capture or kill leaders on down through the ranks as it reduces the number of its victims
With leaders, that "reduction" element is magnified as it is they who inspire and plan killings by so many others
Okay, so killing or capturing leading figures is the best we can hope for.
Not the best - That and breaking plots of lower level killers and eliminating lower level players " is the best we can hope for."
Many choosing the "kill for allah" role (one of many self-chosen risk / heavenly reward roles) is built into the kranny ... thus is kranny- guaranteed to continue .. so long as islam exists
Infiltration is the best we can do. That is how we uncover and stop planned attacks.
That's how CSIS discovered the plot to blow up a VIA Rail train.
and how many countries broke many more plots
Keep in mind that IS is now worldwide .. Afghan, Russia, every EU country, Philippines, US, here
We shall see if and how loss of their spiritual leader affects then
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and many many more plots
Keep in mind that IS is now worldwide .. Afghan, Russia, every EU country, Philippines, here
And the West keeps welcoming more IS supporters every year.
True .. all potential prospects - each will chose his own kranny listed risk / reward role .. some WILL chose killing for allah
We shall see if and how loss of their spiritual leader affects then
What I'm seeing lately, is MANY individual attacks - random stabbings or car runovers etc. ... should do a thread to keep adding them to - difficult as police cooperation is very poor .. picked up 3 today in Europe, UK and OZ - a brit decapitation ONLY got police warning not to post videos - would be arrested for doing so .. zero other info although name was given by neighbors
This is the biggest news story in the world and all I can think of are my son's Halloween costumes. Even the election, I could've slept through it.
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This is the biggest news story in the world and all I can think of are my son's Halloween costumes. Even the election, I could've slept through it.
I was like that too when my children were as young as yours.
True. Young children are a mother's priority
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True. Young children are a mother's priority
Yes, I realize it's hard for white women to balance child rearing and staying on top of current events, but I thought I could do it. ac_razz
From what you said above .. you failed miserably ac_biggrin
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True. Young children are a mother's priority
Yes, I realize it's hard for white women to balance child rearing and staying on top of current events, but I thought I could do it. ac_razz
:001_rolleyes:
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"austere religious scholar"
https://www.foxnews.com/media/washington-post-al-baghdadi-obituary-headline-isis
That person would describe him differently if they had lost a relative is Islamic terror.
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"austere religious scholar"
https://www.foxnews.com/media/washington-post-al-baghdadi-obituary-headline-isis
He was a hero..
Fighting against western imperialism.
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"austere religious scholar"
https://www.foxnews.com/media/washington-post-al-baghdadi-obituary-headline-isis
He was a hero..
Fighting against western imperialism.
That is the image ISIS wants.
The mass executions, mutilations, rapes etc.
Are just something that happens in war... And in the decades leading up to the real war.
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The mass executions, mutilations, rapes etc.
Are just something that happens in war... And in the decades leading up to the real war.
That is life in areas that were controlled by ISIS.
So true ^^
Gee - They are doing better with soldiers "out" of the area" than "in" it
ISIS spokesperson al-Muhajir was killed near Jarabulus when he was traveling in a vehicle in an area controlled by Turkey-backed forces.
His vehicle was struck by at least three missiles from a US war plane. #Syria
I'm surprised Democratic congress members didn't sabotage the hit by leaking it.
Leaking information from the presidents office..
That is so fucked up..
Next they will be "leaking" his travel plans... And its totally okay.. People should know where he is going..
These things dont happen in other countries..
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Leaking information from the presidents office..
That is so fucked up..
Next they will be "leaking" his travel plans... And its totally okay.. People should know where he is going..
These things dont happen in other countries..
it wouldn't surprise me. They would rather remove Trump from office than remove Baghdadi.
Things get grey when large portion of the liberals think all women are getting raped all the time by western men...
And we have an evil regime that makes women wear bikinis... And on the other hand, an evil regime that is telling women not to wear bikini..
Muslims are nice... And they cloth their women so that they wont be sexually objectified...
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I'm surprised Democratic congress members didn't sabotage the hit by leaking it.
Ah. Funny you asked
Trump coordinated with Russia, Turkey, Kurds and even Syria .. all of whom kept totally silent, moved out of the way and even assisted
He did not tell Congress including it's leader Pelosi until troops were back home to their base ... "WHY" being obvious and even volunteered by Trump .. something about not wanting leaks
:laugh:
oops
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I'm surprised Democratic congress members didn't sabotage the hit by leaking it.
Ah. Funny you asked
Trump coordinated with Russia, Turkey, Kurds and even Syria .. all of whom kept totally silent, moved out of the way and even assisted
He did not tell Congress including it's leader Pelosi until troops were back home to their base ... "WHY" being obvious and even stated by Trump
:laugh:
A wise decision.
Oh goody..
The war dogs who were chasing the khalif, were wearing cameras..
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Oh goody..
The war dogs who were chasing the khalif, were wearing cameras..
He killed his three kids with his suicide vest.
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Oh goody..
The war dogs who were chasing the khalif, were wearing cameras..
He killed his three kids with his suicide vest.
Yeah.. On second thought might be too grim to watch.
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This is the biggest news story in the world and all I can think of are my son's Halloween costumes. Even the election, I could've slept through it.
I saw the name a few times today but just dismissed it...I didn't even realize till I just randomly decided to turn the tv on and the news immediately came on talking about it.....I never turn the tv on, if I didnt, I still wouldn't know.
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Oh goody..
The war dogs who were chasing the khalif, were wearing cameras..
He killed his three kids with his suicide vest.
I read that.
Doubts over Trumps dramatic account of Baghdadi raid.. Headline..
"it wasnt really a tunnel! More like a cavern... Trump is lying!"
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Doubts over Trumps dramatic account of Baghdadi raid.. Headline..
"it wasnt really a tunnel! More like a cavern... Trump is lying!"
The American media. ac_toofunny
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Doubts over Trumps dramatic account of Baghdadi raid.. Headline..
"it wasnt really a tunnel! More like a cavern... Trump is lying!"
Is the media trying to spin it negatively?
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Doubts over Trumps dramatic account of Baghdadi raid.. Headline..
"it wasnt really a tunnel! More like a cavern... Trump is lying!"
Is the media trying to spin it negatively?
Yes.. The phrasing he used etc.
Bitter nitpicking.
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Doubts over Trumps dramatic account of Baghdadi raid.. Headline..
"it wasnt really a tunnel! More like a cavern... Trump is lying!"
The American media. ac_toofunny
We are getting some important news about the size of his hands...
No1 on this side of the puddle even knows what he is actually doing.
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Quote from: "Velvet"
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Doubts over Trumps dramatic account of Baghdadi raid.. Headline..
"it wasnt really a tunnel! More like a cavern... Trump is lying!"
The American media. ac_toofunny
We are getting some important news about the size of his hands...
No1 on this side of the puddle even knows what he is actually doing.
Americans do not know either.

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They are the last two people I would trust with classified info.
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traitors
The democrats would have informed Baghdadi..
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The democrats would have informed Baghdadi..
guaranteed
The media gushed when the Obama administration killed Bin Laden. The ISIS boss is killed in a successful hit and CNN, WaPo, NYT, MSNBC and their ilk along with their paid stooges in congress spin in it as a failure. :dash1:
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The media gushed when the Obama administration killed Bin Laden. The ISIS boss is killed in a successful hit and CNN, WaPo, NYT, MSNBC and their ilk along with their paid stooges in congress spin in it as a failure. :dash1:
The difference was that Baghdadi was a bigger fish than Bin Laden was when he was in hiding.
Yesterday, despite press reluctance to give credit, they killed Bag Daddie's next in line and leader by default since the main guy's death
This will slow it all down ... but there are still so many ..and the jail camps of women and children are brewing new ones
Guards cannot enter and have no way to stop the sharia laws withing nor stop the indoctrination
And, there are so many secret followers and more sympathizers nested within Western Societies and other around the world
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Yesterday, despite press reluctance to give credit, they killed Bag Daddie's next in line and leader by default since the main guy's death
This will slow it all down ... but there are still so many ..and the jail camps of women and children are brewing new ones
Guards cannot enter and have no way to stop the sharia laws withing nor stop the indoctrination
And, there are so many secret followers and more sympathizers nested within Western Societies and other around the world
It is a short term victory.
Yes.
They cut off the head of the beast .. then 2 days later they cut off the new head growing in
but, this beast has the ability and the zeal to continue growing heads
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Yes.
They cut off the head of the beast .. then 2 days later they cut off the new head growing in
but, this beast has the ability and the zeal to continue growing heads
Not much to celebrate.
Ability? That serpent, long before its head was severed, had already laid eggs that have already hatched long ago. The serpent's spawns have already slithered to regions around the globe to spread their poison and are very much alive as we speak.
Give it a rest already. These terrorists are not extinguished.
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This is the biggest news story in the world and all I can think of are my son's Halloween costumes. Even the election, I could've slept through it.
Ah, no big deal really. You are doing something more important. The very next day after the raid, Trump's speech about it was the first speech I heard on my Apple device before 8 a.m. MDT. I keep track of what the Commander In Chief has got to say the moment he says it. I have no young children to look after now so I have the time to spare.
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Ability? That serpent, long before its head was severed, had already laid eggs that have already hatched long ago. The serpent's spawns have already slithered to regions around the globe to spread their poison and are very much alive as we speak.
Give it a rest already. These terrorists are not extinguished.
You and cc are saying the same thing.
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Dunno how this will affect the future of IS .. .
There are 5-10 others to take his place.
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Dunno how this will affect the future of IS .. .
There are 5-10 others to take his place.
Unfortunately.
Now you have it..
Big headlines...
Trump made up the story of whimpering and crying ISIS leader..
ac_biggrin
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Now you have it..
Big headlines...
Trump made up the story of whimpering and crying ISIS leader..
ac_biggrin
A successful mission that took out the top two guys is not news. The real news is that Trump may have exaggerated how much of a coward the ISIS leader is.
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Now you have it..
Big headlines...
Trump made up the story of whimpering and crying ISIS leader..
ac_biggrin
A successful mission that took out the top two guys is not news. The real news is that Trump may have exaggerated how much of a coward the ISIS leader is.
He ran into a dead-end tunnel with his kids...
Dont need video to know he is panicking and pissing himself..
On the subject of ISIS needing his leadership..
I dont think he was in active command... More like a figure-head..
ISIS is only the visible part of something bigger... Somebody made that organization and funded it.
Trump lief. :laugh3:
Already in crosshairs
Official: U.S. looking at new Islamic State leader
WASHINGTON — The United States is researching the new leader of Islamic State to determine his previous roles in the organization, Nathan Sales, the U.S. counter-terrorism co-ordinator, said Frid ay after a U.S. raid last month killed its former leader, Abu Bakr al-baghdadi.
"Any time there is a leadership transition in the terrorist organization, we want to make sure that we have the latest information that we need to have to confront the threat," Sales told a briefing.
Islamic State, in an audio tape posted online Thursday, confirmed that Baghdadi was killed in a weekend raid by U.S. special forces in northwestern Syria.
It vowed revenge against the U.S.
The group, also known as ISIS (Islamic State in Syria), said a successor to Baghdadi identified as Abu Ibrahim al-hashemi al-quraishi had been appointed.
Earlier Friday, President U.S. Donald Trump tweeted: "ISIS has a new leader. We know exactly who he is!" he said, without elaborating.
Baghdadi had risen from obscurity to lead the ultra-hardline group and declare himself "caliph" of all Muslims, holding sway over huge areas of Iraq and Syria from 2014 to '17 before Islamic State's control was wrested away by U.s.-led coalition forces, including Iraqis and Syrian Kurds.
Trump has been softening his pullout plans for Syria after a backlash from Congress, including fellow Republicans, who say he enabled a long-threatened Turkish incursion on Oct. 9 against Kurdish forces in Syria who had been America's top allies in the battle against Islamic State since 2014.
Sales said combating Islamic State remained a top national security priority for Washington.
"We will dismantle the group regardless of who its leadership cadre is," he said.
Here is an interesting youtuber.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0EwGEZKWvA&t=238s
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Here is an interesting youtuber.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0EwGEZKWvA&t=238s
wow
ac_wot
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Here is an interesting youtuber.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0EwGEZKWvA&t=238s
She is an idiot.