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General Discussion => The Flea Trap => Topic started by: Zetsu on November 23, 2019, 11:31:46 PM

Title: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Zetsu on November 23, 2019, 11:31:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep13VeH26_4



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVioFi96Hxw&t=148s
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Zetsu on November 24, 2019, 12:02:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9ZrxiAICHI



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z51ib8JDz6E
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Zetsu on November 24, 2019, 12:32:26 AM
Cold War II or will it be World War III?  ac_umm
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Odinson on November 24, 2019, 12:43:45 AM
China doesnt have 5 aircraft carriers..
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: cc on November 24, 2019, 01:14:32 AM
:laugh:  Nor does Europe
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Odinson on November 24, 2019, 01:26:04 AM
Quote from: "cc":laugh:  Nor does Europe


Just about 5 aircraft carriers in total..



And thats only because of the NATO..





Without NATO, all european nations would have fleets and militaries that could compete with the USA.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Zetsu on November 24, 2019, 01:30:03 AM
Quote from: "Odinson"China doesnt have 5 aircraft carriers..


Lol they don't, only got one from Ukraine for R&D and one self built.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Zetsu on November 24, 2019, 01:39:25 AM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "cc":laugh:  Nor does Europe


Just about 5 aircraft carriers in total..



And thats only because of the NATO..





Without NATO, all european nations would have fleets and militaries that could compete with the USA.


I highly doubt it, no offense.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Odinson on November 24, 2019, 01:46:42 AM
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "cc":laugh:  Nor does Europe


Just about 5 aircraft carriers in total..



And thats only because of the NATO..





Without NATO, all european nations would have fleets and militaries that could compete with the USA.


I highly doubt it, no offense.


I meant countries like France, Germany, the UK...



I cant edit my posts..





The european militaries are not even capable of war because we are relying on the USA to do the dirty work.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Odinson on November 24, 2019, 01:49:18 AM
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Odinson"China doesnt have 5 aircraft carriers..


Lol they don't, only got one from Ukraine for R&D and one self built.


The banana tip-class..

Non-nuclear.



The fully chinese built one doesnt have nuclear either... Its almost an exact copy of the soviet design.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Zetsu on November 24, 2019, 01:53:39 AM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "cc":laugh:  Nor does Europe


Just about 5 aircraft carriers in total..



And thats only because of the NATO..





Without NATO, all european nations would have fleets and militaries that could compete with the USA.


I highly doubt it, no offense.


I meant countries like France, Germany, the UK...



I cant edit my posts..





The european militaries are not even capable of war because we are relying on the USA to do the dirty work.


I understand what your talking about, but the truth is in order to sustain a strong military you first need a very powerful economy, and only capitalist nations are able to achieve this, the USSR had went bankrupt, and I doubt Europe will be much different if they go the same route.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Zetsu on November 24, 2019, 01:56:55 AM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Odinson"China doesnt have 5 aircraft carriers..


Lol they don't, only got one from Ukraine for R&D and one self built.


The banana tip-class..

Non-nuclear.



The fully chinese built one doesnt have nuclear either... Its almost an exact copy of the soviet design.


China's nuclear tech still have a lot to catch up, but their main interest is to just retake Taiwan rather than to fight other countries.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2019, 02:58:26 AM
Quote from: "Zetsu"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep13VeH26_4



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVioFi96Hxw&t=148s

Jesus H. What the fuck is going on.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2019, 03:07:33 AM
So, I took a look and Taiwan is holding presidential and legislative elections in January. So, it seems they are trying to influence the outcome.The pro-independence Democratic Progressive Party is leading in the polls, before her main rival, Han Kuo-yu of the China-friendly Kuomintang party.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Odinson on November 24, 2019, 04:49:27 AM
USA is afraid of Ghana..





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZOlBGhT1ss
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2019, 06:44:06 AM
Quote from: "Odinson"USA is afraid of Ghana..





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZOlBGhT1ss

The next economic superpower.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2019, 12:15:28 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep13VeH26_4



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVioFi96Hxw&t=148s

The media is barely mentioning it.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Zetsu on November 24, 2019, 01:49:06 PM
Quote from: "Herman"So, I took a look and Taiwan is holding presidential and legislative elections in January. So, it seems they are trying to influence the outcome.The pro-independence Democratic Progressive Party is leading in the polls, before her main rival, Han Kuo-yu of the China-friendly Kuomintang party.


Don't think anyone could have nailed this any faster.  ac_cool
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Zetsu on November 24, 2019, 01:52:57 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Zetsu"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep13VeH26_4



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVioFi96Hxw&t=148s

The media is barely mentioning it.


I doubt there will be a fight any time soon, but still sending a combine fleet of 100 ships to the South China Sea could brew something fun, lol.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2019, 02:29:12 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Zetsu"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep13VeH26_4



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVioFi96Hxw&t=148s

The media is barely mentioning it.


I doubt there will be a fight any time soon, but still sending a combine fleet of 100 ships to the South China Sea could brew something fun, lol.

It's all for show, but it's still a big thing.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2019, 03:21:55 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Zetsu"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep13VeH26_4



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVioFi96Hxw&t=148s

The media is barely mentioning it.


I doubt there will be a fight any time soon, but still sending a combine fleet of 100 ships to the South China Sea could brew something fun, lol.

Are American forces in Japan and Korea scrambing?
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2019, 03:48:51 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"China doesnt have 5 aircraft carriers..

I recall reading they are either planned or already under construction.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Zetsu on November 24, 2019, 06:34:20 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Zetsu"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep13VeH26_4



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVioFi96Hxw&t=148s

The media is barely mentioning it.


I doubt there will be a fight any time soon, but still sending a combine fleet of 100 ships to the South China Sea could brew something fun, lol.

Are American forces in Japan and Korea scrambing?


Sorry, I mean to say the combine fleet is made up of the US, UK, France & Japan.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2019, 06:44:38 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Zetsu"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep13VeH26_4



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVioFi96Hxw&t=148s

The media is barely mentioning it.


I doubt there will be a fight any time soon, but still sending a combine fleet of 100 ships to the South China Sea could brew something fun, lol.

Are American forces in Japan and Korea scrambing?


Sorry, I mean to say the combine fleet is made up of the US, UK, France & Japan.

I thought Japan's constitution forbade them from having forces outside Japan.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Zetsu on November 24, 2019, 06:45:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2J4JYTg-wQ
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Gaon on November 24, 2019, 06:48:06 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2J4JYTg-wQ

Things are getting really real.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Zetsu on November 24, 2019, 06:49:56 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Zetsu"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep13VeH26_4



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVioFi96Hxw&t=148s

The media is barely mentioning it.


I doubt there will be a fight any time soon, but still sending a combine fleet of 100 ships to the South China Sea could brew something fun, lol.

Are American forces in Japan and Korea scrambing?


Sorry, I mean to say the combine fleet is made up of the US, UK, France & Japan.

I thought Japan's constitution forbade them from having forces outside Japan.


That is only if the US cares, but they really don't anymore tbh.  It wouldn't be surprising if Japan have nukes too, even if they don't they need no more than 36 hours to construct one.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Zetsu on November 24, 2019, 06:54:40 PM
Quote from: "Gaon"
Quote from: "Zetsu"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2J4JYTg-wQ

Things are getting really real.


I agree too, right now China's only hope are their supersonic cruise missiles, though I highly doubt they can lay a finger on US's carriers.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Odinson on November 24, 2019, 07:05:39 PM
These things detect incoming missiles..



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsVUISS8oHs
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2019, 07:43:05 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Gaon"
Quote from: "Zetsu"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2J4JYTg-wQ

Things are getting really real.


I agree too, right now China's only hope are their supersonic cruise missiles, though I highly doubt they can lay a finger on US's carriers.

Do you think this is a show meant to scare the people of Hong Kong if they don't back down on democracy demands.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2019, 07:44:21 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"These things detect incoming missiles..



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsVUISS8oHs

 :ohmy:
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Zetsu on November 24, 2019, 10:17:56 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"These things detect incoming missiles..



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsVUISS8oHs


Using Phalanx to take down incoming missiles travelling over 3000km per hour for a naval ship is kind of risky and only used as the last resort.  Million watt powered infrared lasers have proven far better range, accuracy, speed and stability.  And not to mention terminal high altitude area defence deployed on land and installed on ships will be the most critical to detect missiles launched from anywhere within China or if not half of the Asia mainland as an early warning system.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Zetsu on November 24, 2019, 10:27:58 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Gaon"
Quote from: "Zetsu"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2J4JYTg-wQ

Things are getting really real.


I agree too, right now China's only hope are their supersonic cruise missiles, though I highly doubt they can lay a finger on US's carriers.

Do you think this is a show meant to scare the people of Hong Kong if they don't back down on democracy demands.


China doesn't need to and definitely won't use military to threaten HK, considering the local police there and the Hong Kong government have already sold their soul to CCP.  ac_unsure  I wouldn't be surprised if PLA soldiers are disguised as HK police since they don't have a serial number when on duty, and another strange phenomenon is how can there be so many HK police battling these rioters or not get exhausted after half a year chaos, chance are they take shifts with the PLA.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 25, 2019, 03:29:16 AM
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Gaon"
Quote from: "Zetsu"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2J4JYTg-wQ

Things are getting really real.


I agree too, right now China's only hope are their supersonic cruise missiles, though I highly doubt they can lay a finger on US's carriers.

Do you think this is a show meant to scare the people of Hong Kong if they don't back down on democracy demands.


China doesn't need to and definitely won't use military to threaten HK, considering the local police there and the Hong Kong government have already sold their soul to CCP.  ac_unsure  I wouldn't be surprised if PLA soldiers are disguised as HK police since they don't have a serial number when on duty, and another strange phenomenon is how can there be so many HK police battling these rioters or not get exhausted after half a year chaos, chance are they take shifts with the PLA.

That is an interesting possibility there brother about the HK police force being infiltrated by the PLA.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 25, 2019, 07:45:23 AM
China has been making these shows in the Taiwan straits since former president Lee Teng Hui called for special state to state relations between Taipei and Peking.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 25, 2019, 09:58:44 AM
It's strange right out of the blue China would do this.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 25, 2019, 01:14:14 PM
Quote from: "Herman"It's strange right out of the blue China would do this.

Ya, what provoked China.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 25, 2019, 03:25:55 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Herman"It's strange right out of the blue China would do this.

Ya, what provoked China.

Could be the upcoming election in Taiwan.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 25, 2019, 08:16:55 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep13VeH26_4



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVioFi96Hxw&t=148s

What????
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 25, 2019, 11:48:04 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"China has been making these shows in the Taiwan straits since former president Lee Teng Hui called for special state to state relations between Taipei and Peking.

Taiwan is a province of the motherland.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 26, 2019, 01:15:45 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"China has been making these shows in the Taiwan straits since former president Lee Teng Hui called for special state to state relations between Taipei and Peking.

Taiwan is a province of the motherland.

It's not, but even if it was, so what.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 26, 2019, 01:40:05 AM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Fashionista"China has been making these shows in the Taiwan straits since former president Lee Teng Hui called for special state to state relations between Taipei and Peking.

Taiwan is a province of the motherland.

It's not, but even if it was, so what.

It is and what's it to you.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Frood on November 26, 2019, 02:06:49 AM
We're about 5-10 years out from full fledged war with China. Those communists are biding their time and flexing muscles where they can. They mean to take over the world.



Here in Australia they're buying up deep water ports and large farms. Their military will follow.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 26, 2019, 08:43:38 AM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"We're about 5-10 years out from full fledged war with China. Those communists are biding their time and flexing muscles where they can. They mean to take over the world.



Here in Australia they're buying up deep water ports and large farms. Their military will follow.

There's a three part special on the CBC about China's long term plans.....they are ambitious.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Odinson on November 26, 2019, 11:09:23 AM
Its a good thing we have given control over key strategic positions to some greedy "globalists"...
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 26, 2019, 12:23:17 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"Its a good thing we have given control over key strategic positions to some greedy "globalists"...

It was wishful thinking of Western leaders in the 90's to believe we could turn China into another Japan.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Zetsu on November 26, 2019, 01:47:18 PM
Quote from: "Velvet"
Quote from: "Zetsu"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep13VeH26_4



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVioFi96Hxw&t=148s

What????


China only have 2 carriers, but like Herman mentioned it's really just for show.  Meanwhile the US is probably itching for China to strike first as an excuse, in one video one of US's destroyers even went near China's carrier to provoke them, lol.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 26, 2019, 01:53:20 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Velvet"
Quote from: "Zetsu"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep13VeH26_4



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVioFi96Hxw&t=148s

What????


China only have 2 carriers, but like Herman mentioned it's really just for show.  Meanwhile the US is probably itching for China to strike first as an excuse, in one video one of US's destroyers even went near China's carrier to provoke them, lol.

China is not stupid enough to strike the US.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Odinson on November 27, 2019, 09:42:45 AM
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Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 27, 2019, 10:41:53 AM
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 :laugh:
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Frood on November 27, 2019, 10:17:32 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"We're about 5-10 years out from full fledged war with China. Those communists are biding their time and flexing muscles where they can. They mean to take over the world.



Here in Australia they're buying up deep water ports and large farms. Their military will follow.

There's a three part special on the CBC about China's long term plans.....they are ambitious.


The only good communist is a dead communist.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Gaon on November 27, 2019, 10:29:09 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"We're about 5-10 years out from full fledged war with China. Those communists are biding their time and flexing muscles where they can. They mean to take over the world.



Here in Australia they're buying up deep water ports and large farms. Their military will follow.

There's a three part special on the CBC about China's long term plans.....they are ambitious.


The only good communist is a dead communist.

Is China communist or totalitarian.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Frood on November 28, 2019, 02:25:27 AM
Quote from: "Gaon"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"We're about 5-10 years out from full fledged war with China. Those communists are biding their time and flexing muscles where they can. They mean to take over the world.



Here in Australia they're buying up deep water ports and large farms. Their military will follow.

There's a three part special on the CBC about China's long term plans.....they are ambitious.


The only good communist is a dead communist.

Is China communist or totalitarian.


Same same
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 28, 2019, 11:19:18 AM
Things are getting really interesting. I am concerned about it's impact on a trade deal.



'Serious interference': China summons U.S. ambassador over Trump's Hong Kong bills



China reacted furiously Thursday to United States President Donald Trump's signing two bills aimed at supporting human rights in Hong Kong, summoning the U.S. ambassador to protest and warning the move would undermine cooperation with Washington.



Trump's approval of the bills was not unexpected. Neither was the reaction from Beijing, given China's adamant rejections of any commentary on what it considers an internal issue.



Nevertheless, the clash comes at a sensitive time and could upset already thorny trade negotiations between the two nations.



The U.S. laws, which passed both chambers of Congress almost unanimously, mandate sanctions on Chinese and Hong Kong officials who carry out human rights abuses in Hong Kong, require an annual review of Hong Kong's favorable trade status and prohibit the export to Hong Kong police of certain nonlethal munitions.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6228182/hong-kong-china-trump-us-ambassador/
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 28, 2019, 03:28:51 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"Things are getting really interesting. I am concerned about it's impact on a trade deal.



'Serious interference': China summons U.S. ambassador over Trump's Hong Kong bills



China reacted furiously Thursday to United States President Donald Trump's signing two bills aimed at supporting human rights in Hong Kong, summoning the U.S. ambassador to protest and warning the move would undermine cooperation with Washington.



Trump's approval of the bills was not unexpected. Neither was the reaction from Beijing, given China's adamant rejections of any commentary on what it considers an internal issue.



Nevertheless, the clash comes at a sensitive time and could upset already thorny trade negotiations between the two nations.



The U.S. laws, which passed both chambers of Congress almost unanimously, mandate sanctions on Chinese and Hong Kong officials who carry out human rights abuses in Hong Kong, require an annual review of Hong Kong's favorable trade status and prohibit the export to Hong Kong police of certain nonlethal munitions.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6228182/hong-kong-china-trump-us-ambassador/

The CCP thinks no country on earth is allowed to comment on their domestic issues. They have no problem telling the US and Canada to interfere in the independence of their judiciaries though.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 28, 2019, 06:58:50 PM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "seoulbro"Things are getting really interesting. I am concerned about it's impact on a trade deal.



'Serious interference': China summons U.S. ambassador over Trump's Hong Kong bills



China reacted furiously Thursday to United States President Donald Trump's signing two bills aimed at supporting human rights in Hong Kong, summoning the U.S. ambassador to protest and warning the move would undermine cooperation with Washington.



Trump's approval of the bills was not unexpected. Neither was the reaction from Beijing, given China's adamant rejections of any commentary on what it considers an internal issue.



Nevertheless, the clash comes at a sensitive time and could upset already thorny trade negotiations between the two nations.



The U.S. laws, which passed both chambers of Congress almost unanimously, mandate sanctions on Chinese and Hong Kong officials who carry out human rights abuses in Hong Kong, require an annual review of Hong Kong's favorable trade status and prohibit the export to Hong Kong police of certain nonlethal munitions.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6228182/hong-kong-china-trump-us-ambassador/

The CCP thinks no country on earth is allowed to comment on their domestic issues. They have no problem telling the US and Canada to interfere in the independence of their judiciaries though.

China is being irrational and hypocritical.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 28, 2019, 08:36:44 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "seoulbro"Things are getting really interesting. I am concerned about it's impact on a trade deal.



'Serious interference': China summons U.S. ambassador over Trump's Hong Kong bills



China reacted furiously Thursday to United States President Donald Trump's signing two bills aimed at supporting human rights in Hong Kong, summoning the U.S. ambassador to protest and warning the move would undermine cooperation with Washington.



Trump's approval of the bills was not unexpected. Neither was the reaction from Beijing, given China's adamant rejections of any commentary on what it considers an internal issue.



Nevertheless, the clash comes at a sensitive time and could upset already thorny trade negotiations between the two nations.



The U.S. laws, which passed both chambers of Congress almost unanimously, mandate sanctions on Chinese and Hong Kong officials who carry out human rights abuses in Hong Kong, require an annual review of Hong Kong's favorable trade status and prohibit the export to Hong Kong police of certain nonlethal munitions.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6228182/hong-kong-china-trump-us-ambassador/

The CCP thinks no country on earth is allowed to comment on their domestic issues. They have no problem telling the US and Canada to interfere in the independence of their judiciaries though.

China is being irrational and hypocritical.

It's a standard Peking reaction.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 28, 2019, 09:27:52 PM
Beijing will never allow the West to use HK as a base to destabilize China.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 28, 2019, 10:41:54 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"Beijing will never allow the West to use HK as a base to destabilize China.

I have no reason to believe the USA doesn't care about human rights in Hong Kong and supporting it.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 28, 2019, 11:32:05 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Shen Li"Beijing will never allow the West to use HK as a base to destabilize China.

I have no reason to believe the USA doesn't care about human rights in Hong Kong and supporting it.

The US has strategic interests.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 29, 2019, 09:26:37 AM
Australia's success has been tied to trade with China.



Suddenly, the Chinese Threat to Australia Seems Very Real

After a businessman said Chinese agents sought to implant him in Parliament, that revelation and other espionage cases have finally signaled the end of a "let's get rich together" era.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/28/world/australia/china-spying-wang-liqiang-nick-zhao.html
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 29, 2019, 11:36:21 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"Australia's success has been tied to trade with China.



Suddenly, the Chinese Threat to Australia Seems Very Real

After a businessman said Chinese agents sought to implant him in Parliament, that revelation and other espionage cases have finally signaled the end of a "let's get rich together" era.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/28/world/australia/china-spying-wang-liqiang-nick-zhao.html

You have to register to read it. Australia has performed much better than other OECD nations over the past two decades. But, they have put all their eggs in the Chinese basket.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on November 30, 2019, 05:21:23 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Fashionista"Australia's success has been tied to trade with China.



Suddenly, the Chinese Threat to Australia Seems Very Real

After a businessman said Chinese agents sought to implant him in Parliament, that revelation and other espionage cases have finally signaled the end of a "let's get rich together" era.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/28/world/australia/china-spying-wang-liqiang-nick-zhao.html

You have to register to read it. Australia has performed much better than other OECD nations over the past two decades. But, they have put all their eggs in the Chinese basket.

They don't have a natural trading partner like we do.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Frood on December 01, 2019, 12:57:48 AM
I want all communists dead. If there was a button to push to make that happen, I would have pushed it already.



Fck China. We need to prepare in Australia for invasion. To take those pricks out.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on December 01, 2019, 12:37:41 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"I want all communists dead. If there was a button to push to make that happen, I would have pushed it already.



Fck China. We need to prepare in Australia for invasion. To take those pricks out.

Australia's prosperity over the past twenty five years has been paid for with trade with China.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Frood on December 01, 2019, 02:21:07 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"I want all communists dead. If there was a button to push to make that happen, I would have pushed it already.



Fck China. We need to prepare in Australia for invasion. To take those pricks out.

Australia's prosperity over the past twenty five years has been paid for with trade with China.


They're our biggest trading partner but not the only one.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on December 01, 2019, 02:27:35 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"I want all communists dead. If there was a button to push to make that happen, I would have pushed it already.



Fck China. We need to prepare in Australia for invasion. To take those pricks out.

Australia's prosperity over the past twenty five years has been paid for with trade with China.


They're our biggest trading partner but not the only one.

Which country is Australia's second biggest trading partner?
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Frood on December 01, 2019, 03:15:07 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"I want all communists dead. If there was a button to push to make that happen, I would have pushed it already.



Fck China. We need to prepare in Australia for invasion. To take those pricks out.

Australia's prosperity over the past twenty five years has been paid for with trade with China.


They're our biggest trading partner but not the only one.

Which country is Australia's second biggest trading partner?


Japan
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on December 01, 2019, 03:17:23 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"I want all communists dead. If there was a button to push to make that happen, I would have pushed it already.



Fck China. We need to prepare in Australia for invasion. To take those pricks out.

Australia's prosperity over the past twenty five years has been paid for with trade with China.


They're our biggest trading partner but not the only one.

Which country is Australia's second biggest trading partner?


Japan

A rapidly declining nation.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on December 01, 2019, 06:11:03 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"I want all communists dead. If there was a button to push to make that happen, I would have pushed it already.



Fck China. We need to prepare in Australia for invasion. To take those pricks out.

Australia's prosperity over the past twenty five years has been paid for with trade with China.


They're our biggest trading partner but not the only one.

Which country is Australia's second biggest trading partner?


Japan

A rapidly declining nation.

It's still very wealthy.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Odinson on December 03, 2019, 04:13:45 AM
White supremacy 2.0.



2020.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on December 03, 2019, 05:11:50 AM
Quote from: "Odinson"White supremacy 2.0.



2020.

When  was the first one? The colonial era?
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Zetsu on December 03, 2019, 08:18:41 AM
Quote from: "Odinson"White supremacy 2.0.



2020.


Lol I don't know if I can say the same thing, in terms of military power the US wins hands down, but when it comes to businesses and corporations and other economic related areas you guys are getting slaughtered by Japanese and Korean companies, if not the financial, debt and other expense issue corroding the business organization from the inside only leads them to end up white knighted by Chinese businesses.  ac_umm
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on December 03, 2019, 09:08:33 AM
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Odinson"White supremacy 2.0.



2020.


Lol I don't know if I can say the same thing, in terms of military power the US wins hands down, but when it comes to businesses and corporations and other economic related areas you guys are getting slaughtered by Japanese and Korean companies, if not the financial, debt and other expense issue corroding the business organization from the inside only leads them to end up white knighted by Chinese businesses.  ac_umm

I thought Japan and Korea were in decline?
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Zetsu on December 03, 2019, 12:01:18 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Odinson"White supremacy 2.0.



2020.


Lol I don't know if I can say the same thing, in terms of military power the US wins hands down, but when it comes to businesses and corporations and other economic related areas you guys are getting slaughtered by Japanese and Korean companies, if not the financial, debt and other expense issue corroding the business organization from the inside only leads them to end up white knighted by Chinese businesses.  ac_umm

I thought Japan and Korea were in decline?


I do agree Japan is aging quite fast, even criminals there still use outdate methods to run their organization(types of schemes used in crime is a good indicator to reflect the countries advancement). I don't believe Korea is in decline, but I just know most Western countries are declining even faster than the East Asian region in general.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Odinson on December 03, 2019, 01:28:47 PM
I´m watching border security Australia...



What the hell is wrong with the chinese...





Why cant you people act normally and bring NORMAL things with you..



You got live snails, maggots, ointments, panda bear, a wombat and gods know what else with you.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on December 03, 2019, 01:54:25 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Odinson"White supremacy 2.0.



2020.


Lol I don't know if I can say the same thing, in terms of military power the US wins hands down, but when it comes to businesses and corporations and other economic related areas you guys are getting slaughtered by Japanese and Korean companies, if not the financial, debt and other expense issue corroding the business organization from the inside only leads them to end up white knighted by Chinese businesses.  ac_umm

I thought Japan and Korea were in decline?


I do agree Japan is aging quite fast, even criminals there still use outdate methods to run their organization(types of schemes used in crime is a good indicator to reflect the countries advancement). I don't believe Korea is in decline, but I just know most Western countries are declining even faster than the East Asian region in general.

The East Asia region is just getting really old. The West is old and has self destructive policies.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on December 03, 2019, 01:55:21 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"I´m watching border security Australia...



What the hell is wrong with the chinese...





Why cant you people act normally and bring NORMAL things with you..



You got live snails, maggots, ointments, panda bear, a wombat and gods know what else with you.

That is messed up.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Zetsu on December 03, 2019, 05:46:32 PM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Odinson"White supremacy 2.0.



2020.


Lol I don't know if I can say the same thing, in terms of military power the US wins hands down, but when it comes to businesses and corporations and other economic related areas you guys are getting slaughtered by Japanese and Korean companies, if not the financial, debt and other expense issue corroding the business organization from the inside only leads them to end up white knighted by Chinese businesses.  ac_umm

I thought Japan and Korea were in decline?


I do agree Japan is aging quite fast, even criminals there still use outdate methods to run their organization(types of schemes used in crime is a good indicator to reflect the countries advancement). I don't believe Korea is in decline, but I just know most Western countries are declining even faster than the East Asian region in general.

The East Asia region is just getting really old. The West is old and has self destructive policies.


I do have to agree, but if you're referring to infrastructures one of the main reason why most of the developed East Asian countries tend to have more old buildings is b/c they have an average of more high rise, as long as one person don't want to move out city planners can't do anything to demolish and rebuild.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on December 03, 2019, 06:00:30 PM
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Odinson"White supremacy 2.0.



2020.


Lol I don't know if I can say the same thing, in terms of military power the US wins hands down, but when it comes to businesses and corporations and other economic related areas you guys are getting slaughtered by Japanese and Korean companies, if not the financial, debt and other expense issue corroding the business organization from the inside only leads them to end up white knighted by Chinese businesses.  ac_umm

I thought Japan and Korea were in decline?


I do agree Japan is aging quite fast, even criminals there still use outdate methods to run their organization(types of schemes used in crime is a good indicator to reflect the countries advancement). I don't believe Korea is in decline, but I just know most Western countries are declining even faster than the East Asian region in general.

The East Asia region is just getting really old. The West is old and has self destructive policies.


I do have to agree, but if you're referring to infrastructures one of the main reason why most of the developed East Asian countries tend to have more old buildings is b/c they have an average of more high rise, as long as one person don't want to move out city planners can't do anything to demolish and rebuild.

They do in mainland China I believe Zetsu.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Zetsu on December 03, 2019, 06:09:52 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Odinson"White supremacy 2.0.



2020.


Lol I don't know if I can say the same thing, in terms of military power the US wins hands down, but when it comes to businesses and corporations and other economic related areas you guys are getting slaughtered by Japanese and Korean companies, if not the financial, debt and other expense issue corroding the business organization from the inside only leads them to end up white knighted by Chinese businesses.  ac_umm

I thought Japan and Korea were in decline?


I do agree Japan is aging quite fast, even criminals there still use outdate methods to run their organization(types of schemes used in crime is a good indicator to reflect the countries advancement). I don't believe Korea is in decline, but I just know most Western countries are declining even faster than the East Asian region in general.

The East Asia region is just getting really old. The West is old and has self destructive policies.


I do have to agree, but if you're referring to infrastructures one of the main reason why most of the developed East Asian countries tend to have more old buildings is b/c they have an average of more high rise, as long as one person don't want to move out city planners can't do anything to demolish and rebuild.

They do in mainland China I believe Zetsu.


I guess the mainland is a bit of an exception, in the next few years my dad will have to relocate his factory in Shenzhen soon, government officials have again been knocking on our door.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Odinson on December 03, 2019, 06:11:01 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Odinson"White supremacy 2.0.



2020.

When  was the first one? The colonial era?


I dont know... Finns were living in little wooden dirt roof huts during colonial times.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on December 03, 2019, 06:20:02 PM
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Odinson"White supremacy 2.0.



2020.

When  was the first one? The colonial era?


I dont know... Finns were living in little wooden dirt roof huts during colonial times.

Taiwan has been colonized by many countries.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Odinson on December 07, 2019, 11:07:17 AM
I´m thinking the chinese are refitting the old admiral kuznetsov class carriers so that they can more actively support ground forces..



Maximizing their fighter capacity... Also troop carrying capabilities..





African countries are basically selling their own mothers to the chinese... And the chinese will then use their holdings as a pretext for invasion..





Just because we have deserted our imperialist ways, it doesnt mean that other races have followed.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on December 07, 2019, 11:19:24 AM
Quote from: "Odinson"I´m thinking the chinese are refitting the old admiral kuznetsov class carriers so that they can more actively support ground forces..



Maximizing their fighter capacity... Also troop carrying capabilities..





African countries are basically selling their own mothers to the chinese... And the chinese will then use their holdings as a pretext for invasion..





Just because we have deserted our imperialist ways, it doesnt mean that other races have followed.

China will be smarter about colonialism than Europeans were.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on December 10, 2019, 12:54:51 PM
China's leadership does not believe in a justice system that's separate from the whims of the governing party and will punish anyone who tries to reform their system. (Speaking of which, China imprisoned a 71-year-old journalist for leaking Document 9.)



The idea that we and our allies simply need to press our case with China based on appeals to rules or laws misunderstands everything about the Xi Jinping era. They are fully aware of how we do things over here. They just reject it wholesale. Document 9 explicitly mocks the very notion of "rule of law".
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on December 10, 2019, 02:16:54 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"China's leadership does not believe in a justice system that's separate from the whims of the governing party and will punish anyone who tries to reform their system. (Speaking of which, China imprisoned a 71-year-old journalist for leaking Document 9.)



The idea that we and our allies simply need to press our case with China based on appeals to rules or laws misunderstands everything about the Xi Jinping era. They are fully aware of how we do things over here. They just reject it wholesale. Document 9 explicitly mocks the very notion of "rule of law".

China really had fun with Justine's meddling with the independence of the justice system over the SNC scandal.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on December 10, 2019, 03:15:08 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"China's leadership does not believe in a justice system that's separate from the whims of the governing party and will punish anyone who tries to reform their system. (Speaking of which, China imprisoned a 71-year-old journalist for leaking Document 9.)



The idea that we and our allies simply need to press our case with China based on appeals to rules or laws misunderstands everything about the Xi Jinping era. They are fully aware of how we do things over here. They just reject it wholesale. Document 9 explicitly mocks the very notion of "rule of law".

Now that growth is  slowing permanently in China, the CCPis even more skeptical Western style liberal democracy.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2019, 01:15:44 PM
Chinese foreign minister slams U.S.



BEIJING — china's foreign minister Friday called the united States the "troublemaker of the world" and threatened to "sever the black hands" supporting protests in Hong Kong, in strident language that was markedly at odds with rosy trade talk from Washington.



Just hours after White House officials said that President donald trump had approved a proposed u.s.-china trade deal, china's top diplomat took to a stage in beijing to say that the united States needed to "calm down" and step back from confrontation.



Washington had "launched deliberate attacks and defamation" against china over its "territorial sovereignty, national dignity and core interests," Wang yi told a diplomatic conference in beijing, to an extent that the united States appeared "almost paranoid."



He was referring particularly to U.S. support for prodemocracy protesters in Hong Kong and condemnation of China's detention of more than 1 million muslims in political reeducation camps. beijing has repeatedly accused american agents with "black hands" of fomenting unrest in Hong Kong.



"We are willing to resolve the contradictions and differences with the u.s. through dialogue and discussions based on equality and mutual respect, but we will never accept unilateral sanctions or bullying," he said.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on December 16, 2019, 02:35:15 PM
U.S. expelled Chinese operatives



WASHINGTON — The U.S. government covertly moved to expel two officials from the chinese embassy earlier this year, after they drove onto a military base, The New York Times reported, citing anonymous sources familiar with the matter.



The newspaper reported Sunday that one of the two chinese officials is believed to be an intelligence officer operating under diplomatic cover.



The chinese officials breached security at a base in Virginia this fall, and only stopped driving after fire trucks were used to block their path, the Times said.
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on December 16, 2019, 02:51:54 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"U.S. expelled Chinese operatives



WASHINGTON — The U.S. government covertly moved to expel two officials from the chinese embassy earlier this year, after they drove onto a military base, The New York Times reported, citing anonymous sources familiar with the matter.



The newspaper reported Sunday that one of the two Chinese officials is believed to be an intelligence officer operating under diplomatic cover.



The Chinese officials breached security at a base in Virginia this fall, and only stopped driving after fire trucks were used to block their path, the Times said.

 :ohmy:
Title: Re: Things are about to get interesting...
Post by: Anonymous on December 16, 2019, 08:22:52 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"U.S. expelled Chinese operatives



WASHINGTON — The U.S. government covertly moved to expel two officials from the chinese embassy earlier this year, after they drove onto a military base, The New York Times reported, citing anonymous sources familiar with the matter.



The newspaper reported Sunday that one of the two chinese officials is believed to be an intelligence officer operating under diplomatic cover.



The chinese officials breached security at a base in Virginia this fall, and only stopped driving after fire trucks were used to block their path, the Times said.

They have no business on a military base.