Im sure Kiebers heard about this one, down in Fort Hood Texas, a gunman opened fire with a shotgun in a church, killing two. 71 year old man fired back taking down the shooter. Happens very fast.
The shooter was known to have issues, and a past criminal history, including owning illegal firearms. He had been asking for food and money there, but only got food. That day he came in in disguise, and was sitting there with a big coat and fake beard, before he opened fire. I believe the offering plate was going around at the time too.
There were several church goers armed, and were part of the security force of the church. The family I work for, their church does the same thing as of a few years ago, with the increase of attacks on churches. They have 8-9 folks who carry a gun there.
This link shows the whole video, but I cant get it to work on my puter....
https://www.star-telegram.com/latest-news/article238813193.html
and here is a video summing up, but most vids are edited...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IKbgO9qnLs
			
			
			
				I saw this on the news Blazor..
He's a true hero.
			
			
			
				The shooters name is Keith Kinnunen..
Kinnunen is a finnish last name so he has finnish roots..
On behalf of the finns, I apologize... He does not represent the finns.
A real finnish man would have killed all of those dirty yankee bastards..
He has obviously been weakened by all that mixed yankee blood.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
He's a true hero.
I dont normally watch the news, and I miss Wazzzzup's posting of these kind of things lol.
Amazing how fast it went down.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
Kinnunen is a finnish last name so he has finnish roots..
On behalf of the finns, I apologize... He does not represent the finns.
A real finnish man would have killed all of those dirty yankee bastards..
He has obviously been weakened by all that mixed yankee blood.
 :laugh: 
First of all, Texas is in the South, we aint no damn Yankees! Yankees are those horrible people between Southern U.S. and Canada. 
lol
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
He's a true hero.
I dont normally watch the news, and I miss Wazzzzup's posting of these kind of things lol.
Amazing how fast it went down.
I miss Wazzzup too..
Another retiree from these forums.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Kinnunen is a finnish last name so he has finnish roots..
On behalf of the finns, I apologize... He does not represent the finns.
A real finnish man would have killed all of those dirty yankee bastards..
He has obviously been weakened by all that mixed yankee blood.
 :laugh: 
First of all, Texas is in the South, we aint no damn Yankees! Yankees are those horrible people between Southern U.S. and Canada. 
lol
Yes but what are the southerners called?
Dixie?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Kinnunen is a finnish last name so he has finnish roots..
On behalf of the finns, I apologize... He does not represent the finns.
A real finnish man would have killed all of those dirty yankee bastards..
He has obviously been weakened by all that mixed yankee blood.
 :laugh: 
First of all, Texas is in the South, we aint no damn Yankees! Yankees are those horrible people between Southern U.S. and Canada. 
lol
Yes but what are the southerners called?
Dixie?
If they are Caucasian, deplorables according to Hillary Clinton.
 :laugh:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
Kinnunen is a finnish last name so he has finnish roots..
On behalf of the finns, I apologize... He does not represent the finns.
A real finnish man would have killed all of those dirty yankee bastards..
He has obviously been weakened by all that mixed yankee blood.
People praying in church deserve to be slaughtered. :crazy:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Kinnunen is a finnish last name so he has finnish roots..
On behalf of the finns, I apologize... He does not represent the finns.
A real finnish man would have killed all of those dirty yankee bastards..
He has obviously been weakened by all that mixed yankee blood.
 :laugh: 
First of all, Texas is in the South, we aint no damn Yankees! Yankees are those horrible people between Southern U.S. and Canada. 
lol
Yes but what are the southerners called?
Dixie?
Nah, you just said it, a Southerner  :laugh: 
We have also been called Rebels or Confederates in the past, around the War of Northern Aggression. Called Hillbillys if we live in the mountains over here in these parts. Called Rednecks. But in general, Southerners.
Dixie is the region down in the South, below the Mason Dixon line, also known as the South lol.

(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e5/eb/fc/e5ebfc191bb194a193dbad0b4beb6b14.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e5/eb/fc%20...%20eb6b14.jpg%22%3Ehttps://i.pinimg.com/originals/e5/eb/fc/e5ebfc191bb194a193dbad0b4beb6b14.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Down here in the South, we find the term Yankee super offensive. You may as well call me the N word  :laugh:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Kinnunen is a finnish last name so he has finnish roots..
On behalf of the finns, I apologize... He does not represent the finns.
A real finnish man would have killed all of those dirty yankee bastards..
He has obviously been weakened by all that mixed yankee blood.
 :laugh: 
First of all, Texas is in the South, we aint no damn Yankees! Yankees are those horrible people between Southern U.S. and Canada. 
lol
Yes but what are the southerners called?
Dixie?
If they are Caucasian, deplorables according to Hillary Clinton.
 :laugh:
 :laugh: 
Yup!
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Blazor"
The shooter was known to have issues, and a past criminal history, including owning illegal firearms. He had been asking for food and money there, but only got food. That day he came in in disguise, and was sitting there with a big coat and fake beard, before he opened fire. I believe the offering plate was going around at the time too.
There were several church goers armed, and were part of the security force of the church. The family I work for, their church does the same thing as of a few years ago, with the increase of attacks on churches. They have 8-9 folks who carry a gun there.
This link shows the whole video, but I cant get it to work on my puter....
https://www.star-telegram.com/latest-news/article238813193.html
and here is a video summing up, but most vids are edited...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IKbgO9qnLs
Don't mess with a real Grade A no-nonsense American with a gun.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
Kinnunen is a finnish last name so he has finnish roots..
On behalf of the finns, I apologize... He does not represent the finns.
A real finnish man would have killed all of those dirty yankee bastards..
He has obviously been weakened by all that mixed yankee blood.
 ac_toofunny 
The truth is, you Europeans are the softies. I know that's hard to accept but it's what we in the Americas know for a fact.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Kinnunen is a finnish last name so he has finnish roots..
On behalf of the finns, I apologize... He does not represent the finns.
A real finnish man would have killed all of those dirty yankee bastards..
He has obviously been weakened by all that mixed yankee blood.
 :laugh: 
First of all, Texas is in the South, we aint no damn Yankees! Yankees are those horrible people between Southern U.S. and Canada. 
lol
Actually, Odinson is not entirely incorrect because he is from outside the USA. People outside the USA have referred to Americans as "yanks" in general from as early as the 18th century and especially by the British. You'll find that too explained in Wikipedia.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Kinnunen is a finnish last name so he has finnish roots..
On behalf of the finns, I apologize... He does not represent the finns.
A real finnish man would have killed all of those dirty yankee bastards..
He has obviously been weakened by all that mixed yankee blood.
 :laugh: 
First of all, Texas is in the South, we aint no damn Yankees! Yankees are those horrible people between Southern U.S. and Canada. 
lol
Actually, Odinson is not entirely incorrect because he is from outside the USA. People outside the USA have referred to Americans as "yanks" in general from as early as the 18th century and especially by the British. You'll find that too explained in Wikipedia.
That is true.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Kinnunen is a finnish last name so he has finnish roots..
On behalf of the finns, I apologize... He does not represent the finns.
A real finnish man would have killed all of those dirty yankee bastards..
He has obviously been weakened by all that mixed yankee blood.
 :laugh: 
First of all, Texas is in the South, we aint no damn Yankees! Yankees are those horrible people between Southern U.S. and Canada. 
lol
Actually, Odinson is not entirely incorrect because he is from outside the USA. People outside the USA have referred to Americans as "yanks" in general from as early as the 18th century and especially by the British. You'll find that too explained in Wikipedia.
Im starting to realize that "outsiders" do this  :oeudC: 
As a Southerner, we cant stand Yankees. Most of them are assholes. Not all mind you. But even the freed slaves that journeyed North, found the same, they were treated much worse up North. 
Here ya go, I love this, this is perfect  :laugh:  .....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TQugc8_Htg
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Kinnunen is a finnish last name so he has finnish roots..
On behalf of the finns, I apologize... He does not represent the finns.
A real finnish man would have killed all of those dirty yankee bastards..
He has obviously been weakened by all that mixed yankee blood.
 ac_toofunny 
The truth is, you Europeans are the softies. I know that's hard to accept but it's what we in the Americas know for a fact.
You looking to get your ass kicked, little lady?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Kinnunen is a finnish last name so he has finnish roots..
On behalf of the finns, I apologize... He does not represent the finns.
A real finnish man would have killed all of those dirty yankee bastards..
He has obviously been weakened by all that mixed yankee blood.
 ac_toofunny 
The truth is, you Europeans are the softies. I know that's hard to accept but it's what we in the Americas know for a fact.
You looking to get your ass kicked, little lady?
 ac_toofunny I'm not scared of neanderthals.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Kinnunen is a finnish last name so he has finnish roots..
On behalf of the finns, I apologize... He does not represent the finns.
A real finnish man would have killed all of those dirty yankee bastards..
He has obviously been weakened by all that mixed yankee blood.
 ac_toofunny 
The truth is, you Europeans are the softies. I know that's hard to accept but it's what we in the Americas know for a fact.
You looking to get your ass kicked, little lady?
 ac_toofunny I'm not scared of neanderthals.
Or softies.
 :laugh:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Blazor"
The shooter was known to have issues, and a past criminal history, including owning illegal firearms. He had been asking for food and money there, but only got food. That day he came in in disguise, and was sitting there with a big coat and fake beard, before he opened fire. I believe the offering plate was going around at the time too.
There were several church goers armed, and were part of the security force of the church. The family I work for, their church does the same thing as of a few years ago, with the increase of attacks on churches. They have 8-9 folks who carry a gun there.
This link shows the whole video, but I cant get it to work on my puter....
https://www.star-telegram.com/latest-news/article238813193.html
and here is a video summing up, but most vids are edited...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IKbgO9qnLs
Even Brick couldn't deny that more people would have died had people in that church not had guns.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Blazor"
The shooter was known to have issues, and a past criminal history, including owning illegal firearms. He had been asking for food and money there, but only got food. That day he came in in disguise, and was sitting there with a big coat and fake beard, before he opened fire. I believe the offering plate was going around at the time too.
There were several church goers armed, and were part of the security force of the church. The family I work for, their church does the same thing as of a few years ago, with the increase of attacks on churches. They have 8-9 folks who carry a gun there.
This link shows the whole video, but I cant get it to work on my puter....
https://www.star-telegram.com/latest-news/article238813193.html
and here is a video summing up, but most vids are edited...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IKbgO9qnLs
That is a lot of fire power in a church.
			 
			
			
				I understand that the guy who shot the shooter is the head of the church's defense team, an ex-FBI agent and a firearms instructor and range operator.
That helps to explain his remarkable shot.  I think he took the guy out with a head shot at forty or fifty feet, with a pistol, under pressure and quickly.  That's some stellar shooting, especially in a real life scenario.  My hat's off to him.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Peaches"
That helps to explain his remarkable shot.  I think he took the guy out with a head shot at forty or fifty feet, with a pistol, under pressure and quickly.  That's some stellar shooting, especially in a real life scenario.  My hat's off to him.
 :thumbup:
			 
			
			
				Thats muscle memory action..
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
That's good legislation.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Blazor"
The shooter was known to have issues, and a past criminal history, including owning illegal firearms. He had been asking for food and money there, but only got food. That day he came in in disguise, and was sitting there with a big coat and fake beard, before he opened fire. I believe the offering plate was going around at the time too.
There were several church goers armed, and were part of the security force of the church. The family I work for, their church does the same thing as of a few years ago, with the increase of attacks on churches. They have 8-9 folks who carry a gun there.
This link shows the whole video, but I cant get it to work on my puter....
https://www.star-telegram.com/latest-news/article238813193.html
and here is a video summing up, but most vids are edited...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IKbgO9qnLs
Even Brick couldn't deny that more people would have died had people in that church not had guns.
Oh I know, but he would still have something negative to say  :laugh:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
That is a lot of fire power in a church.
Sadly, because of a lot of church shootings that have been happening over the past several years, a lot of churches are setting up their own security force. I fully support them  :thumbup: 
Funny story, the local church here, thought someone was scoping out the church, and that they looked like someone suspicious. Well, one guy knew the young guy, so officers went to his house to find out what he was doing at the church like he was out in the street and such. Turned out it was the week that Pokemon Go was released  :laugh:
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Peaches"
That helps to explain his remarkable shot.  I think he took the guy out with a head shot at forty or fifty feet, with a pistol, under pressure and quickly.  That's some stellar shooting, especially in a real life scenario.  My hat's off to him.
I was surprised at how quick he responded.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
That is a lot of fire power in a church.
Sadly, because of a lot of church shootings that have been happening over the past several years, a lot of churches are setting up their own security force. I fully support them  :thumbup: 
Funny story, the local church here, thought someone was scoping out the church, and that they looked like someone suspicious. Well, one guy knew the young guy, so officers went to his house to find out what he was doing at the church like he was out in the street and such. Turned out it was the week that Pokemon Go was released  :laugh:
There are no guns in my church and I like it that way.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
That is a lot of fire power in a church.
Sadly, because of a lot of church shootings that have been happening over the past several years, a lot of churches are setting up their own security force. I fully support them  :thumbup: 
Funny story, the local church here, thought someone was scoping out the church, and that they looked like someone suspicious. Well, one guy knew the young guy, so officers went to his house to find out what he was doing at the church like he was out in the street and such. Turned out it was the week that Pokemon Go was released  :laugh:
There are no guns in my church and I like it that way.
So if Akbar walks in, and starts shooting up the place, you're just gonna lay low in between the pews, and hope the casualties are limited?
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
That is a lot of fire power in a church.
Sadly, because of a lot of church shootings that have been happening over the past several years, a lot of churches are setting up their own security force. I fully support them  :thumbup: 
Funny story, the local church here, thought someone was scoping out the church, and that they looked like someone suspicious. Well, one guy knew the young guy, so officers went to his house to find out what he was doing at the church like he was out in the street and such. Turned out it was the week that Pokemon Go was released  :laugh:
There are no guns in my church and I like it that way.
So if Akbar walks in, and starts shooting up the place, you're just gonna lay low in between the pews, and hope the casualties are limited?
The biggest massacre in a house of worship in Canada, was a young white French Canadian walking into a mosque and killing six people using both a rifle and handgun.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Kinnunen is a finnish last name so he has finnish roots..
On behalf of the finns, I apologize... He does not represent the finns.
A real finnish man would have killed all of those dirty yankee bastards..
He has obviously been weakened by all that mixed yankee blood.
 ac_toofunny 
The truth is, you Europeans are the softies. I know that's hard to accept but it's what we in the Americas know for a fact.
You looking to get your ass kicked, little lady?
 ac_toofunny I'm not scared of neanderthals.
I´ll sit on your face..
Lets see how scared you get when my big, hairy neanderthal ass closes in on your face. 
Finnish on filippina cultural violation.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Kinnunen is a finnish last name so he has finnish roots..
On behalf of the finns, I apologize... He does not represent the finns.
A real finnish man would have killed all of those dirty yankee bastards..
He has obviously been weakened by all that mixed yankee blood.
 ac_toofunny 
The truth is, you Europeans are the softies. I know that's hard to accept but it's what we in the Americas know for a fact.
You looking to get your ass kicked, little lady?
 ac_toofunny I'm not scared of neanderthals.
I´ll sit on your face..
Lets see how scared you get when my big, hairy neanderthal ass closes in on your face. 
Finnish on filippina cultural violation.
Shouldn't that be the other way around?   ac_lmfao 
Seems like the Finns are doing things ass backwards.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
That is a lot of fire power in a church.
Sadly, because of a lot of church shootings that have been happening over the past several years, a lot of churches are setting up their own security force. I fully support them  :thumbup: 
Funny story, the local church here, thought someone was scoping out the church, and that they looked like someone suspicious. Well, one guy knew the young guy, so officers went to his house to find out what he was doing at the church like he was out in the street and such. Turned out it was the week that Pokemon Go was released  :laugh:
There are no guns in my church and I like it that way.
So if Akbar walks in, and starts shooting up the place, you're just gonna lay low in between the pews, and hope the casualties are limited?
I've been been going to church all my life.....I have yet to see a shooting during fellowship.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
That is a lot of fire power in a church.
Sadly, because of a lot of church shootings that have been happening over the past several years, a lot of churches are setting up their own security force. I fully support them  :thumbup: 
Funny story, the local church here, thought someone was scoping out the church, and that they looked like someone suspicious. Well, one guy knew the young guy, so officers went to his house to find out what he was doing at the church like he was out in the street and such. Turned out it was the week that Pokemon Go was released  :laugh:
There are no guns in my church and I like it that way.
So if Akbar walks in, and starts shooting up the place, you're just gonna lay low in between the pews, and hope the casualties are limited?
I've been been going to church all my life.....I have yet to see a shooting during fellowship.
As the great shepherd would say...
Tend your flock... And at times, fight off the wolves.
Here is something girly for you to hide under your sunday dress.

(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-k7wlr7szna/images/stencil/500x659/products/4060/5647/apifyttco__85175.1527111908.jpg?c=2&imbypass=on%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-k7wlr7s%20...%20mbypass=on%22%3Ehttps://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-k7wlr7szna/images/stencil/500x659/products/4060/5647/apifyttco__85175.1527111908.jpg?c=2&imbypass=on%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
That is a lot of fire power in a church.
Sadly, because of a lot of church shootings that have been happening over the past several years, a lot of churches are setting up their own security force. I fully support them  :thumbup: 
Funny story, the local church here, thought someone was scoping out the church, and that they looked like someone suspicious. Well, one guy knew the young guy, so officers went to his house to find out what he was doing at the church like he was out in the street and such. Turned out it was the week that Pokemon Go was released  :laugh:
There are no guns in my church and I like it that way.
So if Akbar walks in, and starts shooting up the place, you're just gonna lay low in between the pews, and hope the casualties are limited?
I've been been going to church all my life.....I have yet to see a shooting during fellowship.
As the great shepherd would say...
Tend your flock... And at times, fight off the wolves.
Here is something girly for you to hide under your sunday dress.

(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-k7wlr7szna/images/stencil/500x659/products/4060/5647/apifyttco__85175.1527111908.jpg?c=2&imbypass=on%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-k7wlr7s%20...%20mbypass=on%22%3Ehttps://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-k7wlr7szna/images/stencil/500x659/products/4060/5647/apifyttco__85175.1527111908.jpg?c=2&imbypass=on%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Thanks, but I don't need it.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
That is a lot of fire power in a church.
Sadly, because of a lot of church shootings that have been happening over the past several years, a lot of churches are setting up their own security force. I fully support them  :thumbup: 
Funny story, the local church here, thought someone was scoping out the church, and that they looked like someone suspicious. Well, one guy knew the young guy, so officers went to his house to find out what he was doing at the church like he was out in the street and such. Turned out it was the week that Pokemon Go was released  :laugh:
There are no guns in my church and I like it that way.
So if Akbar walks in, and starts shooting up the place, you're just gonna lay low in between the pews, and hope the casualties are limited?
I've been been going to church all my life.....I have yet to see a shooting during fellowship.
Neither have I, but Im sure neither did any of these folks that have had shootings at their churches. Its like my Dad always said, "ya never know". 
Its sad that churches are being targets of attacks these days.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
That is a lot of fire power in a church.
Sadly, because of a lot of church shootings that have been happening over the past several years, a lot of churches are setting up their own security force. I fully support them  :thumbup: 
Funny story, the local church here, thought someone was scoping out the church, and that they looked like someone suspicious. Well, one guy knew the young guy, so officers went to his house to find out what he was doing at the church like he was out in the street and such. Turned out it was the week that Pokemon Go was released  :laugh:
There are no guns in my church and I like it that way.
So if Akbar walks in, and starts shooting up the place, you're just gonna lay low in between the pews, and hope the casualties are limited?
I've been been going to church all my life.....I have yet to see a shooting during fellowship.
Neither have I, but Im sure neither did any of these folks that have had shootings at their churches. Its like my Dad always said, "ya never know". 
Its sad that churches are being targets of attacks these days.
It has never happened to a church in Canada.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Blazor"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
That is a lot of fire power in a church.
Sadly, because of a lot of church shootings that have been happening over the past several years, a lot of churches are setting up their own security force. I fully support them  :thumbup: 
Funny story, the local church here, thought someone was scoping out the church, and that they looked like someone suspicious. Well, one guy knew the young guy, so officers went to his house to find out what he was doing at the church like he was out in the street and such. Turned out it was the week that Pokemon Go was released  :laugh:
There are no guns in my church and I like it that way.
So if Akbar walks in, and starts shooting up the place, you're just gonna lay low in between the pews, and hope the casualties are limited?
I've been been going to church all my life.....I have yet to see a shooting during fellowship.
As the great shepherd would say...
Tend your flock... And at times, fight off the wolves.
Here is something girly for you to hide under your sunday dress.

(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-k7wlr7szna/images/stencil/500x659/products/4060/5647/apifyttco__85175.1527111908.jpg?c=2&imbypass=on%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-k7wlr7s%20...%20mbypass=on%22%3Ehttps://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-k7wlr7szna/images/stencil/500x659/products/4060/5647/apifyttco__85175.1527111908.jpg?c=2&imbypass=on%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
My mom always carried one of these....

(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://s7d2.scene7.com/is/image/academy/20055573?$m-pdp-product-image%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://s7d2.scene7.com/is/image/academ%20...%20duct-image%22%3Ehttps://s7d2.scene7.com/is/image/academy/20055573?$m-pdp-product-image%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E$%3Ce%3E)
and my dad's wife always carried one of these....

(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61gPuDNBUeL._UX679_.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com%20...%20UX679_.jpg%22%3Ehttps://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61gPuDNBUeL._UX679_.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
			 
			
			
				I read a lot of orthodox Jews in the greater New York City area are carrying pepper spray and/or handguns.
			
			
			
				I read a lot of orthodox Jews in the greater New York City area are carrying pepper spray and/or handguns.
			
			
			
				Growing anti-semitism in Finland and in other european countries..
Some people seem to link that in far-right extremism..
But I think all rationale people know the true culprits.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
Some people seem to link that in far-right extremism..
But I think all rationale people know the true culprits.
The attacks in NYC are being perpetrated by African American Muslims.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
Some people seem to link that in far-right extremism..
But I think all rationale people know the true culprits.
The attacks in NYC are being perpetrated by African American Muslims.
Might be because all muslims hate jews or...
Because blacks in America think they are the "real hebrews".
The jews themselves in Finland are not directly blaming any1 but they are referring to the recent events being the cause for low feeling of security.
Recent event being the beard-child invasion.
			 
			
			
				I read that anti semitic attacks in Europe are increasing, especially in France.
			
			
			
				This would be ideal for Fashies church defense..
You can hide it behind the priests podium..

(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://content.foto.mail.ru/community/zonawar.ru/1854/s-1911.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://content.foto.mail.ru/community/z%20...%20s-1911.jpg%22%3Ehttp://content.foto.mail.ru/community/zonawar.ru/1854/s-1911.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
You can hide it behind the priests podium..

(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://content.foto.mail.ru/community/zonawar.ru/1854/s-1911.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://content.foto.mail.ru/community/z%20...%20s-1911.jpg%22%3Ehttp://content.foto.mail.ru/community/zonawar.ru/1854/s-1911.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
That would keep people from falling asleep during the sermon.
			 
			
			
				Why is there so much hate for jews? I do not understand why.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"
I don't understand it either Azhya.
			 
			
			
				They seem to prosper when every1 else is living in misery.
They have been the man behind the curtain in a lot of european wars.. Funding it all.
This is not some conspiracy paranoia.. Its a fact that certain jews have been so rich bankers that they could topple nations.
Their culture is all about money-making..
Jewish kids use their birthday money to invest in corporations.
			
			
			
				Quote from: "Odinson"
They have been the man behind the curtain in a lot of european wars.. Funding it all.
This is not some conspiracy paranoia.. Its a fact that certain jews have been so rich bankers that they could topple nations.
Their culture is all about money-making..
Jewish kids use their birthday money to invest in corporations.
And yet there are Ashkenazi Jew who loathe capitalism.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
They have been the man behind the curtain in a lot of european wars.. Funding it all.
This is not some conspiracy paranoia.. Its a fact that certain jews have been so rich bankers that they could topple nations.
Their culture is all about money-making..
Jewish kids use their birthday money to invest in corporations.
And yet there are Ashkenazi Jew who loathe capitalism.
They get blamed for capitalism and communism. Jews are just as varied in their politics as any other whites. What makes them different from other Europeans, is the way they value education. They are like Orientals that way.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
They have been the man behind the curtain in a lot of european wars.. Funding it all.
This is not some conspiracy paranoia.. Its a fact that certain jews have been so rich bankers that they could topple nations.
Their culture is all about money-making..
Jewish kids use their birthday money to invest in corporations.
And yet there are Ashkenazi Jew who loathe capitalism.
They get blamed for capitalism and communism. Jews are just as varied in their politics as any other whites. What makes them different from other Europeans, is the way they value education. They are like Orientals that way.
I still don't understand why they are hated so much that they create murderers who want to annihilate them.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
They have been the man behind the curtain in a lot of european wars.. Funding it all.
This is not some conspiracy paranoia.. Its a fact that certain jews have been so rich bankers that they could topple nations.
Their culture is all about money-making..
Jewish kids use their birthday money to invest in corporations.
And yet there are Ashkenazi Jew who loathe capitalism.
They get blamed for capitalism and communism. Jews are just as varied in their politics as any other whites. What makes them different from other Europeans, is the way they value education. They are like Orientals that way.
I still don't understand why they are hated so much that they create murderers who want to annihilate them.
I don't know either. They are a diverse group of thinkers too.
			 
			
			
				Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Odinson"
They have been the man behind the curtain in a lot of european wars.. Funding it all.
This is not some conspiracy paranoia.. Its a fact that certain jews have been so rich bankers that they could topple nations.
Their culture is all about money-making..
Jewish kids use their birthday money to invest in corporations.
And yet there are Ashkenazi Jew who loathe capitalism.
They get blamed for capitalism and communism. Jews are just as varied in their politics as any other whites. What makes them different from other Europeans, is the way they value education. They are like Orientals that way.
I still don't understand why they are hated so much that they create murderers who want to annihilate them.
People scapegoat successful. It's happening with Orientals in the US. They must have had an unfair advantage. Nobody is a success through hard work.