Soleimani was the long-running leader of the elite intelligence wing called Quds Force – which itself has been a designated terror group since 2007, and is estimated to be 20,000 strong. Considered one of the most powerful men in Iran, he routinely was referred to as its "shadow commander" or "spymaster."
"Soleimani is our leader" had been photographed spray-painted on windows by Iran-backed militiamen at the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad.
The strike also killed Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, the deputy commander of Iran-backed militias known as the Popular Mobilization Forces, three Iraqi officials told The Associated Press. Iraqi TV reported the deaths as well.
Their deaths are a potential turning point in the Middle East, and are expected to draw severe retaliation from Iran and the forces it backs in the Middle East against Israel and American interests.
An official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said al-Muhandis had arrived to the airport in a convoy to receive Soleimani whose plane had arrived from either Lebanon or Syria. The airstrike occurred as soon as he descended from the plane to be greeted by al-Muhandis and his companions, killing them all.
[Note cc: Quds has by far largest number of terrorists and is the largest and most effective terror organization in the world .. dwarfing Al Quaida
Soleimani has lead it for a very long time ... may have initiated it .. not quite sure
This is part of and result of Iran lead and Iran manned attack on the American embassy yesterday .. no doubt ordered by Soleimani
If there was ever any doubt that Iran is leading problems in Iraq, this fellow landing at Baghdad airport today should make that clear]
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Soleimani was the long-running leader of the elite intelligence wing called Quds Force – which itself has been a designated terror group since 2007, and is estimated to be 20,000 strong. Considered one of the most powerful men in Iran, he routinely was referred to as its "shadow commander" or "spymaster."
"Soleimani is our leader" had been photographed spray-painted on windows by Iran-backed militiamen at the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad.
The strike also killed Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, the deputy commander of Iran-backed militias known as the Popular Mobilization Forces, three Iraqi officials told The Associated Press. Iraqi TV reported the deaths as well.
Their deaths are a potential turning point in the Middle East, and are expected to draw severe retaliation from Iran and the forces it backs in the Middle East against Israel and American interests.
An official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said al-Muhandis had arrived to the airport in a convoy to receive Soleimani whose plane had arrived from either Lebanon or Syria. The airstrike occurred as soon as he descended from the plane to be greeted by al-Muhandis and his companions, killing them all.
[Note cc: Quds has by far largest number of terrorists and is the largest and most effective terror organization in the world .. dwarfing Al Quaida
Soleimani has lead it for a very long time ... may have initiated it .. not quite sure
This is part of and result of Iran lead and Iran manned attack on the American embassy yesterday .. no doubt ordered by Soleimani
If there was ever any doubt that Iran is leading problems in Iraq, this fellow landing at Bagdhad airport today should make that clear]
I saw the breaking news on this. They didn't say who was behind it though.
Not yet acknowledged .. but has to be US ..... The attack by Iranians on Americans a few days ago followed by attack on Embassy by Iranians were the triggers
they took opportunity justified by 2 Iranian attacks in 2 days & offed the 2 top Iranian leaders who were spewing terrorism through iraq and elsewhere
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Their deaths are a potential turning point in the Middle East and if the U.S. carried them out, it represents a drastic change for American policy toward Iran after months of tensions.
Tehran shot down a U.S. military surveillance drone and seized oil tankers. Meanwhile, the U.S. blames Iran for a series of attacks targeting tankers, as well as a September assault on Saudi Arabia's oil industry that temporarily halved its production.
The tensions take root in Trump's decision in May 2018 to withdraw the U.S. from Iran's nuclear deal with world powers, struck under his predecessor.
He was behind all Iranian help (weaponry and direct assistance) that resulted in many 100s of US deaths in Iraq
Sounds like a guy who had it coming.
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Sounds like a guy who had it coming.
I am still reading all I can first.
This guy has been known terror leader for at least 15 years
They have also arrested several other Pro-Iran Militia Behind Attack On Embassy .. and killed one alongside the Iranian
Iran forgot when it attacked another US Embassy .... . It ain't Jimmy Carter anymore .. "This was [a response to] Iranian aggression against us. This was Iranian strategy, Iranian money, Iranian proxies that put American lives in jeopardy and the president very quickly acted,"
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This guy has been known terror leader for at least 15 years
They have also arrested several other Pro-Iran Militia Behind Attack On Embassy .. and killed one alongside the Iranian
Iran forgot when it attacked another US Embassy .... . It ain't Jimmy Carter anymore .. "This was [a response to] Iranian aggression against us. This was Iranian strategy, Iranian money, Iranian proxies that put American lives in jeopardy and the president very quickly acted,"
What was he doing in Baghdad?

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Attack on Iran's terror chief justifiable
Iran's "terrorist-in-chief," Gen. Qassem Soleimani, was killed in an overnight explosion in Iraq Friday.
The U.S. administration confirms the explosion was the result of an american rocket attack.
While the reaction among many anti-u.s. and anti-Donald Trump personalities on social media was predictable (outrage) and apoplectic (the end of days), the truth is a bit more pedestrian.
Soleimani was the commander-in-chief of Iran's Quds Force – officially the "international wing" of Iran's revolutionary Guard Corps.
Why does Iran's revolutionary Guard need an international wing? to direct and execute terrorist operations abroad, of course.
As the man calling the shots in Iran's long-lasting and ongoing international terror operations, Soleimani was a righteous target.
Making him even more so was the fact he was killed in Baghdad less than two days after rocket attacks against the u.s. embassy there killed an american.
Why was Soleimani in Baghdad — the capital city of Iran's greatest regional nemesis — at the time?
The new year's Eve attack on u.s. diplomats and their security forces is generally being blamed on Iraq's Popular Mobilization Forces (PMF) — directly or indirectly, through complicity.
Although the PMF are nominally part of Iraq's security infrastructure, they're Shia militias overtly backed by Iran — a de facto arm of the Quds Force Soleimani commanded.
Will this unleash an immediate backlash from Iran? no doubt.
But it's important to remember this targeted attack against the mastermind of Iran's international terror operations was the retaliation — not the provocation.
Iran has been poking the american bear with increasingly sharp sticks for some time, teasing out where the line in the sand might be.
Thursday night they found it.
Was this an illegal attack, as some Henny Pennys on twitter claim? no.
Soleimani is a combatant, not a politician. He commands the Iranian unit directly responsible for multiple attacks on the u.s. and its western allies. that makes him a bonafide military target.
He isn't the equivalent of u.s. Vice-president Mike Pence — a civilian politician. Soleimani is a military general and a combatant.
There is no u.s. prohibition on this direct action. nor does it violate international laws of armed combat.
In the u.s., only Congress can declare war. But recent american law has established that the president can order drone strikes against targets in foreign countries. President Barack Obama was the first to do so on an industrial scale.
U.S. law prohibits the assassination of a foreign leader. But, once again, Soleimani was not a head of state — even if he once bragged to an american general he was more powerful than Iran's president.
One thing is certain. Whoever takes Soleimani's place as Iran's new terror chief — and all those working under him — will have some sleepless nights now that it has been demonstrated they aren't safe from the consequences of their actions.
Trump right to kill master terrorist
U.S. President Donald Trump had every right to order the drone strike that killed top Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani in Iraq on Friday.
Soleimani, the second most powerful figure in Iran behind Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, was the mastermind behind Iran's sponsorship of global terrorism, planning and carrying out attacks on U.S. servicemen, diplomats and innocent civilians throughout the Mideast.
Canada views Soleimani's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps' Quds Force as a terrorist organization.
Public Safety Canada describes it as "the clandestine branch of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, responsible for exporting" the Iranian Revolution globally, "through activities such as facilitating terrorist operations" by providing "arms, funding and paramilitary training to extremist groups including the Taliban, Lebanese Hizballah, Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad ..."
Trump haters will, of course, accuse the American president of destabilizing the Mideast and trying to detract attention from his upcoming impeachment trial in the U.S. Senate — where the Republican majority controls the outcome, meaning Trump in fact has very little to worry about.
As for Trump's decision to assassinate Soleimani, the targeted killing of terrorists that pose a threat to U.S. security in the Mideast — especially by drone strikes — has been the policy of American presidents since 9/11, not just by George W. Bush, but, to a much greater extent, by Barack Obama.
The bottom line here is that Trump has eliminated a known terrorist threat, not just to the U.S., but to America's allies as well, including Canada.
That said, while Iran and Iraq are historic enemies in the Mideast, the fact the U.S. carried out the drone strike on a convoy of cars containing Soleimani near Baghdad's airport has angered the Iraqi government as a violation of its territorial integrity.
Meanwhile, Iran's Khamenei is vowing vengeance on the U.S. (translation, more terrorist attacks) which could include operations against American allies like Canada, which currently has hundreds of troops, as well as diplomats, stationed in Iraq.
Their safety should be the Trudeau government's primary concern.
Foreign Affairs Minister Francois-philippe Champagne on Friday called for all sides in the region to exercise restraint, while noting Canada considered Soleimani and his Quds Force to be a destabilizing factor both in the Mideast and globally.
Indeed, that's exactly what he was.
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Trump right to kill master terrorist
U.S. President Donald Trump had every right to order the drone strike that killed top Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani in Iraq on Friday.
Soleimani, the second most powerful figure in Iran behind Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, was the mastermind behind Iran's sponsorship of global terrorism, planning and carrying out attacks on U.S. servicemen, diplomats and innocent civilians throughout the Mideast.
Canada views Soleimani's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps' Quds Force as a terrorist organization.
Public Safety Canada describes it as "the clandestine branch of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, responsible for exporting" the Iranian Revolution globally, "through activities such as facilitating terrorist operations" by providing "arms, funding and paramilitary training to extremist groups including the Taliban, Lebanese Hizballah, Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad ..."
Trump haters will, of course, accuse the American president of destabilizing the Mideast and trying to detract attention from his upcoming impeachment trial in the U.S. Senate — where the Republican majority controls the outcome, meaning Trump in fact has very little to worry about.
As for Trump's decision to assassinate Soleimani, the targeted killing of terrorists that pose a threat to U.S. security in the Mideast — especially by drone strikes — has been the policy of American presidents since 9/11, not just by George W. Bush, but, to a much greater extent, by Barack Obama.
The bottom line here is that Trump has eliminated a known terrorist threat, not just to the U.S., but to America's allies as well, including Canada.
That said, while Iran and Iraq are historic enemies in the Mideast, the fact the U.S. carried out the drone strike on a convoy of cars containing Soleimani near Baghdad's airport has angered the Iraqi government as a violation of its territorial integrity.
Meanwhile, Iran's Khamenei is vowing vengeance on the U.S. (translation, more terrorist attacks) which could include operations against American allies like Canada, which currently has hundreds of troops, as well as diplomats, stationed in Iraq.
Their safety should be the Trudeau government's primary concern.
Foreign Affairs Minister Francois-philippe Champagne on Friday called for all sides in the region to exercise restraint, while noting Canada considered Soleimani and his Quds Force to be a destabilizing factor both in the Mideast and globally.
Indeed, that's exactly what he was.
May he burn in hell.
US military does not expect to conduct additional strikes as officials assess Iran's next step, US official says
The US military does not expect to conduct additional strikes against Iranian-backed groups in Iraq or other locations unless the United States comes under attack, according to a US official directly familiar with the information.
https://fox43.com/2020/01/04/us-military-does-not-expect-to-conduct-additional-strikes-as-officials-assess-irans-next-step-us-official-says/
Cooler heads will prevail.
Sorry .. doubled
I have been concerned as there are so many places Iran could choose to hit for payback ... and then tit for tat "could" follow indefinitely
Not so .. This guy is sharper that I thot
I now realize that he will hit back so hard that the game will come to an end at an early point
see below
"Iran is talking very boldly about targeting certain USA assets as revenge for our ridding the world of their terrorist leader who had just killed an American, & badly wounded many others, not to mention all of the people he had killed over his lifetime, including recently hundreds of Iranian protesters," Trump tweeted.
The president continued: "He was already attacking our Embassy, and preparing for additional hits in other locations. Iran has been nothing but problems for many years."
"Let this serve as a WARNING that if Iran strikes any Americans, or American assets, we have targeted 52 Iranian sites (representing the 52 American hostages taken by Iran many years ago), some at a very high level & important to Iran & the Iranian culture, and those targets, and Iran itself, WILL BE HIT VERY FAST AND VERY HARD," Trump said Saturday, explicitly laying out that and how the U.S. will act if Iran retaliates.
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"Iran is talking very boldly about targeting certain USA assets as revenge for our ridding the world of their terrorist leader who had just killed an American, & badly wounded many others, not to mention all of the people he had killed over his lifetime, including recently hundreds of Iranian protesters," Trump tweeted.
The president continued: "He was already attacking our Embassy, and preparing for additional hits in other locations. Iran has been nothing but problems for many years."
"Let this serve as a WARNING that if Iran strikes any Americans, or American assets, we have targeted 52 Iranian sites (representing the 52 American hostages taken by Iran many years ago), some at a very high level & important to Iran & the Iranian culture, and those targets, and Iran itself, WILL BE HIT VERY FAST AND VERY HARD," Trump said Saturday, explicitly laying out that and how the U.S. will act if Iran retaliates.
Progtards are saying culture targets could be a war crime.

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VERY GOOD ADVICE^^^
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Excellent!!! . .. So fitting
President Trump should have asked Nancy Pelosi's permission...
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President Trump should have asked Nancy Pelosi's permission...
Trump by passes the obstructionist congress whenever possible.
Check this out. Supporters of the dead terrorist general carrying Hezbollah flags clash with Iranians opposed to the Islamic regime.
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Supporters of Iranian terrorist clash with counter-protestors in downtown Toronto
https://www.thepostmillennial.com/breaking-supporters-of-iranian-terrorist-clash-with-counter-protestors-in-downtown-toronto/?fbclid=IwAR3em5BJF8TI_QBh_yHtICv_ENFkah4dfYhlrT4sF00mqHCQsjLzDEN4Hzo
Judging by interviews given by prominent members of the Iranian community in my city, it would seem they at least tacitly supported the US decision to eliminate Iran's top general.
That spoiled little ignorant race ho, Colin Kaepernick had this to say about taking out the terrorist masquerading as a general.
"America has always sanctioned and besieged Black and Brown bodies both at home and abroad," he added. "America militarism is the weapon wielded by American imperialism, to enforce its policing and plundering of the non white world."
Here were some of the responses
Qassem Soleimani was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of Americans who were black and brown. cc
@Nike
Iranian terrorist Qasem Soleimani killed thousands upon thousands of black and brown people through out the Middle East
Speaking of imperialism, how are the sales of your sweatshop shoe? https://twitter.com/Kaepernick7/status/1213552939786096640 ...
And it's on.
Genius commentary from a guy whose only war experience includes social justice and who managed to screw up his own tryout because of his inflated ego.
Hey @Kaepernick7 you should see if Iran will start a team for you. About the only way you're ever playing again. https://twitter.com/Kaepernick7/status/1213552939786096640 ...
Soleimani oversaw the murder, starvation, displacement, detention and torture of millions of brown Syrians and Iraqis. https://twitter.com/Kaepernick7/status/1213552939786096640 ...
https://dailycaller.com/2020/01/04/colin-kaepernick-soleimani-iran-american-imperialism/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=11482
No kidding, democRATs are outraged.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jan/3/ilhan-omar-dems-are-outraged-trumps-assassination-/?fbclid=IwAR3h9v3IGoR-KnnV8qqpI62T0FZ3xoVDiSJ6b26-KovCquUds1uUw2e6v3A
Rep. Ilhan Omar says Dems are outraged by Trump's assassination of 'a foreign official'

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Watch this Iranian-Canadian rip terrorist supporters at a demonstration.
https://www.thepostmillennial.com/watch-iranian-canadian-rips-trudeaus-weakness-on-terrorism/?fbclid=IwAR3rqyDECf6BSHamVxPpIgxaLJ0vhP1cgKQdG6pgf9Mwy-0IbbiKMF1CTQ0

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An interview with Gen. Petraeus on Qasem Soleimani's killing.
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So why do you suppose this happened now, though?
Well, I suspect that the leaders in Washington were seeking to reestablish deterrence, which clearly had eroded to some degree, perhaps by the relatively insignificant actions in response to these strikes on the Abqaiq oil facility in Saudi Arabia, shipping in the Gulf and our $130 million dollar drone that was shot down. And we had seen increased numbers of attacks against US forces in Iraq. So I'm sure that there was a lot of discussion about what could show the Iranians most significantly that we are really serious, that they should not continue to escalate.
Now, obviously, there is a menu of options that they have now and not just in terms of direct Iranian action against perhaps our large bases in the various Gulf states, shipping in the Gulf, but also through proxy actions — and not just in the region, but even in places such as Latin America and Africa and Europe.
Would you have recommended this course of action right now?
I'd hesitate to answer that just because I am not privy to the intelligence that was the foundation for the decision, which clearly was, as was announced, this was a defensive action, that Soleimani was going into the country to presumably approve further attacks. Without really being in the inner circle on that, I think it's very difficult to either second-guess or to even think through what the recommendation might have been.
Again, it is impossible to overstate the significance of this action. This is much more substantial than the killing of Osama bin Laden. It's even more substantial than the killing of Baghdadi.
Final question, General Petraeus, how vulnerable are US military and civilian personnel in the Middle East right now as a result of what happened last night?
Well, my understanding is that we have significantly shored up our air defenses, our air assets, our ground defenses and so forth. There's been the movement of a lot of forces into the region in months, not just in the past days. So there's been a very substantial augmentation of our defensive capabilities and also our offensive capabilities.
And, you know, the question Iran has to ask itself is, "Where does this end?" If they now retaliate in a significant way — and considering how vulnerable their infrastructure and forces are at a time when their economy is in dismal shape because of the sanctions. So Iran is not in a position of strength, although it clearly has many, many options available to it, as I mentioned, not just with their armed forces and the Revolutionary Guards Corps, but also with these Quds Force-supported proxy elements throughout the region in the world.
Do you have confidence in this administration to kind of navigate all those calculations?
Well, I think that this particular episode has been fairly impressively handled. There's been restraint in some of the communications methods from the White House. The Department of Defense put out, I think, a solid statement. It has taken significant actions, again, to shore up our defenses and our offensive capabilities. The question now, I think, is what is the diplomatic initiative that follows this? What will the State Department and the Secretary of State do now to try to get back to the table and reduce or end the battlefield consequences?
https://www.pri.org/stories/2020-01-03/gen-petraeus-qasem-soleimani-s-killing-its-impossible-overstate-significance?fbclid=IwAR21-hDhbk5LjkDnvkyiD22_lXa5uEclTp7FzfHt341EWkKeLaShJTiA9GU
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That spoiled little ignorant race ho, Colin Kaepernick had this to say about taking out the terrorist masquerading as a general.
"America has always sanctioned and besieged Black and Brown bodies both at home and abroad," he added. "America militarism is the weapon wielded by American imperialism, to enforce its policing and plundering of the non white world."
Here were some of the responses
Qassem Soleimani was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of Americans who were black and brown. cc
@Nike
Iranian terrorist Qasem Soleimani killed thousands upon thousands of black and brown people through out the Middle East
Speaking of imperialism, how are the sales of your sweatshop shoe? https://twitter.com/Kaepernick7/status/1213552939786096640 ...
And it's on.
Genius commentary from a guy whose only war experience includes social justice and who managed to screw up his own tryout because of his inflated ego.
Hey @Kaepernick7 you should see if Iran will start a team for you. About the only way you're ever playing again. https://twitter.com/Kaepernick7/status/1213552939786096640 ...
Soleimani oversaw the murder, starvation, displacement, detention and torture of millions of brown Syrians and Iraqis. https://twitter.com/Kaepernick7/status/1213552939786096640 ...
https://dailycaller.com/2020/01/04/colin-kaepernick-soleimani-iran-american-imperialism/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=11482
Colin Kaepernick is so hypocritical and annoying.
Yes and his mission is to grow a halo over his head in the eyes of the minorities..
He thinks of nothing but himself when he says these things.
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That spoiled little ignorant race ho, Colin Kaepernick had this to say about taking out the terrorist masquerading as a general.
"America has always sanctioned and besieged Black and Brown bodies both at home and abroad," he added. "America militarism is the weapon wielded by American imperialism, to enforce its policing and plundering of the non white world."
Here were some of the responses
Qassem Soleimani was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of Americans who were black and brown. cc
@Nike
Iranian terrorist Qasem Soleimani killed thousands upon thousands of black and brown people through out the Middle East
Speaking of imperialism, how are the sales of your sweatshop shoe? https://twitter.com/Kaepernick7/status/1213552939786096640 ...
And it's on.
Genius commentary from a guy whose only war experience includes social justice and who managed to screw up his own tryout because of his inflated ego.
Hey @Kaepernick7 you should see if Iran will start a team for you. About the only way you're ever playing again. https://twitter.com/Kaepernick7/status/1213552939786096640 ...
Soleimani oversaw the murder, starvation, displacement, detention and torture of millions of brown Syrians and Iraqis. https://twitter.com/Kaepernick7/status/1213552939786096640 ...
https://dailycaller.com/2020/01/04/colin-kaepernick-soleimani-iran-american-imperialism/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=11482
Colin Kaepernick is so hypocritical and annoying.
And stupid.
Two of our NDP MPP's join terrorist sympathizers mourning the death of the world's number one terrorist. And they want to replace Ford.
Ontario NDP MPP's deal with the devil
When a terrorist is killed, some people cheer, some shrug, but two NDP MPPS thought it best to go to a solidarity rally where the terrorist was mourned and honoured.
NDP education critic Marit Stiles, yes the one who thinks she should be in charge of the education system, and Rima Berns-mcgown, the critic for poverty and homelessness, were out in full support of an anti-american rally where dead terrorist Qassem Soleimani was celebrated.
Both elected officials showed up at the rally outside the U.S. consulate on University Ave. where protesters showed support for Soleimani and denounced American President Donald Trump.
And, of course, they did all this while surrounded by flags that should give plenty of people pause.
There were flags from the Iraqi paramilitary group, the PMF or Popular Mobilization Forces, and of course, a flag from the terrorist group, Hezbollah, one of the groups that the dead Soleimani helped fund and assist with military and terrorist activities.
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Two of our NDP MPP's join terrorist sympathizers mourning the death of the world's number one terrorist. And they want to replace Ford.
Ontario NDP MPP's deal with the devil
When a terrorist is killed, some people cheer, some shrug, but two NDP MPPS thought it best to go to a solidarity rally where the terrorist was mourned and honoured.
NDP education critic Marit Stiles, yes the one who thinks she should be in charge of the education system, and Rima Berns-mcgown, the critic for poverty and homelessness, were out in full support of an anti-american rally where dead terrorist Qassem Soleimani was celebrated.
Both elected officials showed up at the rally outside the U.S. consulate on University Ave. where protesters showed support for Soleimani and denounced American President Donald Trump.
And, of course, they did all this while surrounded by flags that should give plenty of people pause.
There were flags from the Iraqi paramilitary group, the PMF or Popular Mobilization Forces, and of course, a flag from the terrorist group, Hezbollah, one of the groups that the dead Soleimani helped fund and assist with military and terrorist activities.
I am embarrassed I used to be an NDP voter. Not that I like any of the alternatives.
Iran has fired at least 10 missiles into a USA airbase in Iraq..
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Iran has fired at least 10 missiles into a USA airbase in Iraq..
What is the damage?
From a constitutional law professor:
Okay, it's painfully obvious that many in our country have no clue what they're talking about in regards to this strike against Qasem Soleimani. I've heard everything from Trump violated the law to he didn't inform Congress to he has to consult Congress to he's guilty of ordering an assassination. Get a grip people. Ignorance may be bliss, but it's embarrassing when you start talking about shit you know nothing about. Here comes the lesson. Article I, Section 8 of our Constitution gives Congress certain powers like declaring war, raising armies, providing a navy, etc. Article II, Section 2 gives the President the responsibilities of Commander In Chief. 50 USC 1541-1548 (known as the War Powers Resolution) puts constraints on the President being able to put the military forces of the United States into use. The Resolution states that the President can use military force under three circumstances. First, a declaration of war. Second, statutory authorization. Finally, to respond to an attack on the country, its territory, its possessions or its armed forces. The Resolution requires the President to notify Congress within 48 hours of the armed forces being used and that the forces cannot remain for more than 60 days (90 days max) in combat without congressional approval. Now, I know some people out there don't like facts. My answer to that is—- tough shit. Two of the three conditions for military use under the resolution were met. One, there was authorization under the AUMF Against Terrorists resolution. Two, our embassy (possession, territory, country, etc.) was attacked and it was linked to Iran. The President notified Congress pursuant to the Resolution within 24 hours of the use of force. For those of you who don't know math, that's less than 48 hours. No forces remain in operation, so the 60 and 90 days caps are not relevant. As for the assassination claim, the AUMF specifically gives the President the authority to launch a military strike against anyone labeled a terrorist or heading a terrorist organization. Soleimani and his organization (IRGC) have both been officially labeled as terrorists for more than a decade.
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Iran has fired at least 10 missiles into a USA airbase in Iraq..
What is the damage?
No info on that yet...
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Iran has fired at least 10 missiles into a USA airbase in Iraq..
What is the damage?
No info on that yet...
I read twelve rockets. But, no info.
Joe Biden 1996: If Iran attacked a USA facility it is an act of war and ANY retaliation is warranted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlK8QI9QqQc&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2TqNiPRdb8RfOQwA6pTp3Z72DN6G-PDjQ5eI7Bg6H-HcG3bkCbCFE6T-4
Three rockets were fired near the US embassy.
Enough with the leftist hissy fits. Blowing up Soleimani was a no-brainer
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/john-robson-enough-with-the-leftist-hissy-fits-blowing-up-soleimani-was-a-no-brainer?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3gQ9xE1noryefSbOutXIHQ-qAFezHYk6rFl9n4miT-dujMPsXRKEXA90E#Echobox=1578395409
This merciless bloodstained fanatic had been slaughtering Americans, Syrians, Iraqis, Iranians and anyone else he could reach for decades
Blowing the guy up was a no-brainer. Qassem Soleimani was a merciless bloodstained fanatic who'd been slaughtering Americans, Syrians, Iraqis, Iranians and anyone else he could reach for decades.
The New York Times whined "Democrats Question Timing of Strike" as if they should have blasted him when they didn't know where he was instead of when he carelessly stepped out of the shadows. As for it being a violation of international law, unlike his 30-year terrorist career, to its credit NBC noted that Barack Obama ordered more than 500 such airstrikes, killing thousands. But back to practicalities. What exactly is Iran going to do now that Trump made it mad?
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Barack Obama ordered more than 500 such airstrikes, killing thousands.
and one Daffy one was the leader of his country
yet none of his worshipers said a word about it being illegal
not to mention they did ZERO to help put the country back to right
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Barack Obama ordered more than 500 such airstrikes, killing thousands.
and one Daffy one was the leader of his country
yet none of his worshipers said a word about it being illegal
not to mention they did ZERO to help put the country back to right
Khadaffy was killed by his own people, not by an airstrike.
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Barack Obama ordered more than 500 such airstrikes, killing thousands.
and one Daffy one was the leader of his country
yet none of his worshipers said a word about it being illegal
not to mention they did ZERO to help put the country back to right
Khadaffy was killed by his own people, not by an airstrike.
He was injured by an american airstrike..
I remember Frau Killary blackmailing the UN to OK airstrikes to Libya..
And she laughed when Gaddafi died.
YUP
Still killing people even when he's dead. ...
"A stampede broke out Tuesday at Soleimani's funeral, and at least 56 people were killed and more than 200 were injured as thousands thronged the procession, Iranian news reports said. Shortly after Iran's revenge missile attack early Wednesday, Soleimani's shroud-wrapped remains were lowered into the ground as mourners wailed at the grave site.
Tuesday's deadly stampede took place in Soleimani's hometown of Kerman as his coffin was being borne through the city in southeastern Iran, said Pirhossein Koulivand,
https://apnews.com/add7a702258b4419d796aa5f48e577fc
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Barack Obama ordered more than 500 such airstrikes, killing thousands.
and one Daffy one was the leader of his country
yet none of his worshipers said a word about it being illegal
not to mention they did ZERO to help put the country back to right
Khadaffy was killed by his own people, not by an airstrike.
He was injured by an american airstrike..
I remember Frau Killary blackmailing the UN to OK airstrikes to Libya..
And she laughed when Gaddafi died.
I don't remember that, but okay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DXDU48RHLU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DXDU48RHLU
hmmm
Ukrainian commercial airliner has "spontaneously combusted" mid-air in Iran..
No emergency call from the crew...
Whatever happened was so quick that the pilots didnt even report it..
Iran has confiscated the black boxes and refusing to give them to Boeing or any other non-iranian authorities.
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Ukrainian commercial airliner has "spontaneously combusted" mid-air in Iran..
No emergency call from the crew...
Whatever happened was so quick that the pilots didnt even report it..
Iran has confiscated the black boxes and refusing to give them to Boeing or any other non-iranian authorities.
That was Ukrainian Airlines, which has a spotty safety record. Let's not jump to conclusions because Iran is being a pain.
I agree Thiel. At this point we can say no more than a very long shot coincidence. I see no reason Iran would do that intentionally
That said, Let's see if Iran gives boxes to Boeing etc. Refusal would be extremely suspicious pretty much to the point of being telling ... a fuckup
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I agree Thiel. At this point we can say no more than a very long shot coincidence
That said, Let's see if Iran gives boxes to Boeing etc. Refusal would be extremely suspicious pretty much to the point of being telling
Ukrainian Airlines accepted that mechanical failure was a likely cause. They did walk it back a bit.
Right.
I'm not trying to suggest anything, but this early and without complete box info .. no one knows anything with any degree of certainty
I'm in shock right now. At least 27 people from this city died on that flight. I'm also very close to the local Iranian community through my friendship with former Iranian Heritage Society president, Payman Parseyan. I personally knew Dr Shekoufeh Choupannejad and her two beautiful daughters. RIP my friends.
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I'm in shock right now. At least 27 people from this city died on that flight. I'm also very close to the local Iranian community through my friendship with former Iranian Heritage Society president, Payman Parseyan. I personally knew Dr Shekoufeh Choupannejad and her two beautiful friends. RIP my friends.
I'm terribly sorry about that Shen.
:sad:
She was a lady part doctor..
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She was a lady part doctor..
So many of those Iranian-Canadians who died were doctors or Phd students.
We got 50000 doctors from Iraq...
They got no papers but we believe their word.
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We got 50000 doctors from Iraq...
They got no papers but we believe their word.
You should change careers and become a doctor Odi....I'll believe you.
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I'm in shock right now. At least 27 people from this city died on that flight. I'm also very close to the local Iranian community through my friendship with former Iranian Heritage Society president, Payman Parseyan. I personally knew Dr Shekoufeh Choupannejad and her two beautiful daughters. RIP my friends.
Sorry to hear about that. I read nearly half of the Canadian victims were from Edmonton and wondered. It is a small world.
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Barack Obama ordered more than 500 such airstrikes, killing thousands.
and one Daffy one was the leader of his country
yet none of his worshipers said a word about it being illegal
not to mention they did ZERO to help put the country back to right
Khadaffy was killed by his own people, not by an airstrike.
Literally yes, in effect, no. - 0 chased him for weeks, bombing everywhere he went around the country - a final airstrike forced him into a sewer from which a flock of his people pulled him out and killed him .. as intended all along
0 set out to eliminate him and achieved his goal .. mission accomplished
Very sorry to hear about your friends, Shen
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Ukrainian commercial airliner has "spontaneously combusted" mid-air in Iran..
No emergency call from the crew...
Whatever happened was so quick that the pilots didnt even report it..
Iran has confiscated the black boxes and refusing to give them to Boeing or any other non-iranian authorities.
That was Ukrainian Airlines, which has a spotty safety record. Let's not jump to conclusions because Iran is being a pain.
I don't believe the Islamic regime in Tehran would want to down a flight with mostly overseas Iranians. There is no domestic nationalist advantage in that. I am not saying it was not deliberate though.
The American left has been in a frenzy that war was imminent. Yet, again Trump has proved that he has no interest in fighting the world's battle like his Dem and GOP predecessors. Peace and prosperity continue.
Iranians 'standing down'
Trump avoids escalating crisis after missile attacks
Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif had said the strikes "concluded" Tehran's response to the killing of Soleimani, who had been responsible for building up Iran's network of proxy armies across the Middle East.
No advantage, however ..... apparently It WAS missile
It now appears that Iran fucked up and shot it down
CBS News quoting US intelligence said a satellite detected infrared "blips" of two missile launches, followed by another blip of an explosion.
Meanwhile, Newsweek quoted a Pentagon and a senior US intelligence officials, as well as an Iraqi intelligence official as saying they believed the Ukrainian plane was hit by a Russian-made Tor missile. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51055219
The Ukrainian flight that crashed in Iran was shot down by a missile, according to reported US satellite intelligence
https://www.businessinsider.com/ukrainian-flight-752-shot-down-by-anti-aircraft-missile-2020-1
All based on very strong statements by US officials - US satelite info - we shall see if true
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No advantage, however ..... apparently It WAS missile
It now appears that Iran fucked up and shot it down
CBS News quoting US intelligence said a satellite detected infrared "blips" of two missile launches, followed by another blip of an explosion.
Meanwhile, Newsweek quoted a Pentagon and a senior US intelligence officials, as well as an Iraqi intelligence official as saying they believed the Ukrainian plane was hit by a Russian-made Tor missile. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51055219
The Ukrainian flight that crashed in Iran was shot down by a missile, according to reported US satellite intelligence
https://www.businessinsider.com/ukrainian-flight-752-shot-down-by-anti-aircraft-missile-2020-1
Isn't that special. It will be interesting to see how Tehran spins this and how other countries, like Ukraine and Canada respond.
US say data shows surface to air missile - Not the type of missile being fired into Iraq
Iran reports - The airliner had turned back toward the airport before it crashed, minutes after takeoff, and cited proof.
If it was headed back, that would make missile hit more unlikely
While US (Pentagon) "high level of confidence" .. we'll see how this developed and should know for sure soon
Sixty-three of them were Canadian nationals, but many more called Canada their home, at least temporarily.
138 according to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau - "were connecting to Canada" / called Canada their home . (not sure what that exactly means)
BBC
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US say data shows surface to air missile - Not the type of missile being fired into Iraq
Iran reports - The airliner had turned back toward the airport before it crashed, minutes after takeoff, and cited proof.
If it was headed back, that would make missile hit more unlikely
While US (Pentagon) "high level of confidence" .. we'll see how this developed and should know for sure soon
Oh fuck. acc_angry
It didnt turn... The plane is falling erratically..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz9nvLla4wU
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It didnt turn... The plane is falling erratically..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz9nvLla4wU
It dropped like a bag of rocks after Iranian missiles shot it down.
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Ukrainian commercial airliner has "spontaneously combusted" mid-air in Iran..
No emergency call from the crew...
Whatever happened was so quick that the pilots didnt even report it..
Iran has confiscated the black boxes and refusing to give them to Boeing or any other non-iranian authorities.
That was Ukrainian Airlines, which has a spotty safety record. Let's not jump to conclusions because Iran is being a pain.
I see your racism.. And I raise you..
UIA is squeeky clean when it comes to accidents.
The anti-Trumpers are trying to say that this is in response to the US killing the top Iranian terrorist. :crazy:
Sorry progtards, once again there is no war. Trump aint Obama or Bush.
Confirmed... The plane gets hit by another source of light that was incoming from the ground.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn1fVDQey3A
If the video is legit, it is clear that the plane was shot down.
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If the video is legit, it is clear that the plane was shot down.
It's already been confirmed it was shot down.
"Accidentally" shoot down an airliner full of people?
And some try to tell us that we have no worries with this fuckup of a country having nukes? :oeudC:
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"Accidentally" shoot down an airliner full of people?
And some try to tell us that we have no worries with this fuckup of a country having nukes? :oeudC:
I believe it was an accident.
Iranian aviation authorities have invited Canadian TSB to participate in the investigation and our TSB has accepted.
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Iranian aviation authorities have invited Canadian TSB to participate in the investigation and our TSB has accepted.
What is Iran up to.
A 19-second video posted online and reportedly verified by The New York Times claims to show an Iranian missile striking Ukraine International Airlines Flight 752, shortly before it crashed on Wednesday, killing all 176 people on board — including 63 Canadians.
https://globalnews.ca/news/6390218/video-shows-iran-missile-hit-ukraine-plane/?utm_source=GlobalBC&utm_medium=Facebook
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A 19-second video posted online and reportedly verified by The New York Times claims to show an Iranian missile striking Ukraine International Airlines Flight 752, shortly before it crashed on Wednesday, killing all 176 people on board — including 63 Canadians.
https://globalnews.ca/news/6390218/video-shows-iran-missile-hit-ukraine-plane/?utm_source=GlobalBC&utm_medium=Facebook
There's no question that is was shot down. The question is why would they shoot down a plane carrying their own citizens?
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The question is why would they shoot down a plane carrying their own citizens?
There is no logical reason to do it deliberately
They fucked up ... [size=150]big[/size]time
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The question is why would they shoot down a plane carrying their own citizens?
There is no logical reason to do it deliberately
They fucked up ... [size=150]big[/size]time
Don't get me wrong, I think it was unintentional.
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The question is why would they shoot down a plane carrying their own citizens?
There is no logical reason to do it deliberately
They fucked up ... [size=150]big[/size]time
If they wanted the people on that flight dead, they could have killed them on the ground. I agree, they screwed up big time.
Conscripts manning the platform..
US retaliation imminent..
They got paranoid and fired at the roaring plane.
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Conscripts manning the platform..
US retaliation imminent..
They got paranoid and fired at the roaring plane.
Something like that. It makes the Iranian military look like a joke.
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Conscripts manning the platform..
US retaliation imminent..
They got paranoid and fired at the roaring plane.
An army officer will face the firing squad.
Prolly already has .. and maybe others and his family too
Making the regime look really really stupid does not go down well there
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Prolly already has .. and maybe others and his family too
Making the regime look really really stupid does not go down well there
The video of that plane being shot down was chilling.
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Conscripts manning the platform..
US retaliation imminent..
They got paranoid and fired at the roaring plane.
An army officer will face the firing squad.
That is more than just a possibility. But, why were foreign airlines using that airport so soon after the rocket attacks when everything is on high alert. Iran's military messed up big time, but there is enough blame to spread around.
Not one but two missiles..
The video I posted showed the impact n. 2 just before the plane hit the ground..
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Not one but two missiles..
The video I posted showed the impact n. 2 just before the plane hit the ground..
Two missiles. Our pm said it COULD be one. Trudeau fibbed. :swoon:
I'll think about the why and repercussions of the plane being shot down at a later date. Right now I'm grieving for my friends and the Iranian community in this city who I've gotten to know and like a lot. Sunday at 3 pm I'm attending a vigil at the U of A for the victims.
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I'll think about the why and repercussions of the plane being shot down at a later date. Right now I'm grieving for my friends and the Iranian community in this city who I've gotten to know and like a lot. Sunday at 3 pm I'm attending a vigil at the U of A for the victims.
I understand that Shen, and I'm sorry about your friends.
Maybe they had the Iranian armys first female soldiers womanning that platform..
This is exactly what a female soldier would do..
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Maybe they had the Iranian armys first female soldiers womanning that platform..
This is exactly what a female soldier would do..
Women in the Islamic Revolutionary Army. That would be like Jews serving in the SS.
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Maybe they had the Iranian armys first female soldiers womanning that platform..
This is exactly what a female soldier would do..
Women in the Islamic Revolutionary Army. That would be Jews serving in the SS.
Yes, I think so.
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Maybe they had the Iranian armys first female soldiers womanning that platform..
This is exactly what a female soldier would do..
Not Israel's female soldiers.
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Maybe they had the Iranian armys first female soldiers womanning that platform..
This is exactly what a female soldier would do..
Not Israel's female soldiers.
They too busy taking butt selfies to even notice the plane.
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Maybe they had the Iranian armys first female soldiers womanning that platform..
This is exactly what a female soldier would do..
Not Israel's female soldiers.
They too busy taking butt selfies to even notice the plane.
Is old Shen Li in the IDF?
No, but I have it on "good authority" :wink: that I graduated from IDF to high up in Mossad
But for head shots, not bum shots
:roll:
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No, but I have it on "good authority" :wink: that I graduated from IDF to high up in Mossad
But for head shots, not bum shots
:roll:
Old Scouse would believe that.
He's the one who told me
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He's the one who told me
Another zinger from the Jewish left winger.
Iran's military admitted it shot down the plane by unintentionally.
Iranian Regime kills trump "Hard Revenge"
https://twitter.com/neiljetel/status/1216101093689778176/video/1
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Iranian Regime kills trump "Hard Revenge"
https://twitter.com/neiljetel/status/1216101093689778176/video/1
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Was that Netanyahu laying beside Trump.
I think it ended that way . as T morphed into Bibi
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I think it ended that way . as T morphed into Bibi
Naturally.
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Iranian Regime kills trump "Hard Revenge"
https://twitter.com/neiljetel/status/1216101093689778176/video/1
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You are an israeli agent...
You spread these lies to make us doubt our good muslim comrades.
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You are an israeli agent...
You spread these lies to make us doubt our good muslim comrades.
True. I was outed by a certain Israel ex - spurt
I saw former George Bush speech writer and rabid TDS sufferer, David Frum on CBC repeat the lie that any country other than Iran bears responsibility.
By Candace Malcolm of Sun News Media
Blame Trump for Iranian missiles?! That's what CBC says
CBC'S David Cochrane put the following question to Trudeau:
"If the intelligence is accurate, then it seems that this is the end result of a sequence of events that was sparked by the drone strike ordered by the U.S. president. So given the information you have, how much responsibility does the United States bear for this tragedy?"
Perhaps this reporter is unaware of the chain of events that led to the escalation between the U.S. and Iran.
In late December, a rocket attack carried out by Qassem Soleimani's proxy terror group killed an American in Iraq, and a few days later, Soleimani led a militia attack against the U.S. embassy in Baghdad.
Soleimani was actively planning more attacks when Trump ordered the drone strike that killed him and other high-ranking terrorists
To say the sequence of events was "sparked by the drone strike" shows utter ignorance of the past two weeks of global affairs.
It also reveals a blatant anti-american bias — one that was repeated by several CBC reporters.
"Are 63 Canadians dead because of the unintended consequences of a decision made by the U.S. president?" asks Katie Simpson, the CBC foreign correspondent in Washington, D.C.
"Who's to blame?" asks the CBC'S Andrew Nichols. "Is it the U.S.? Is it Iran? Or is it both?"
Putting the blame for an Iranian missile, launched by the Iranian government, in Iran, on Canada's closest and most important ally takes a certain level of derangement.
Reminds me of Huawei, and now Iran, Canada gets in the crossfire again.
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Reminds me Huawei, and now Iran, Canada gets in the crossfire again.
Cowardly response from Trudeau both cases.
Look at this slav right here..
He is the sergeant..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9k05CbXmqE
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Look at this slav right here..
He is the sergeant..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9k05CbXmqE
Don't be making fun of Slavs.
I wasnt making fun of the slavs.. That man is not scared thats all..
If we are gonna start with the blaming game...
Maybe we can blame the russians... Its their weapon system.
Or we can blame the missile operators mother for not having an abortion..
Its the iranian COs fault BTW.. He is responsible for his men..
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I wasnt making fun of the slavs.. That man is not scared thats all..
If we are gonna start with the blaming game...
Maybe we can blame the russians... Its their weapon system.
Or we can blame the missile operators mother for not having an abortion..
Its the iranian COs fault BTW.. He is responsible for his men..
I didn't watch the video. Too much barrel wash.
I didn't get all the details, but Iran has made several arrests as a result of shooting down the Ukraine Airliner.
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I didn't get all the details, but Iran has made several arrests as a result of shooting down the Ukraine Airliner.
Do you know if they are military personnel?
Canadian PM Justin Trudeau Blames Downing Of Ukraine Jet On US 'Escalation' (//https)
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Tuesday appeared to cast blame on President Trump and the US for the downing by Iran of a Ukrainian jetliner that was allowed to take off from Tehran following an Iranian airstrike on US troops in Iraq just hours earlier.
"I think if there were no tensions, if there was no escalation recently in the region, those Canadians would be right now home with their families," Trudeau told Global News television.
Fliers recruiting suicide terrorists to attack US distributed in Iran (//https)
Students at Iran's Islamic Azad University are being offered a novel new career choice — suicide terrorist.
Leaflets are being distributed at the influential school urging students to sign up for Jihad missions against the United States and Israel to avenge the death of Iranian general Qassem Soleimani.
"Registration for volunteers to commit a suicide attack against the United States and Israel," it blares. "Hard revenge is underway for those criminals who killed Qassem Soleimani."
The flyer, claiming to quote the words of Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, carries additional messages of encouragement, including "kill all infidels."
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Fliers recruiting suicide terrorists to attack US distributed in Iran (//https)
Students at Iran's Islamic Azad University are being offered a novel new career choice — suicide terrorist.
Leaflets are being distributed at the influential school urging students to sign up for Jihad missions against the United States and Israel to avenge the death of Iranian general Qassem Soleimani.
"Registration for volunteers to commit a suicide attack against the United States and Israel," it blares. "Hard revenge is underway for those criminals who killed Qassem Soleimani."
The flyer, claiming to quote the words of Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, carries additional messages of encouragement, including "kill all infidels."
I wonder what the parents think of such a macabre offer.
And I have to pay for our state owned propaganda machine.
By Brian Lilley of Sun News Media
MORE TRUMP BASHING
Trudeau, CBC echoing Iran's talking points on air disaster
In Canada, there is an obsession with finding a way to blame U.S. President Donald Trump for Iran shooting down the plane. Bizarrely, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Monday gave a nod to that school of thought. It didn't go unnoticed in Washington, of course. That might be because one of the main voices pushing this idea — the CBC'S Katie Simpson — asked Congressional Republicans what they thought of Trudeau's comments.
Simpson has been pushing the Trump-is-to-blame idea since the plane was blown out of the sky. She's not alone, but she has taken plenty of airtime to make the case.
The idea is that since the U.S. assassinated Qassem Soleimani, leader of Iran's Quds Force and a man responsible for spreading terror, death and destruction throughout the Middle East, Trump is to blame for the plane being shot down. It's a storyline that sits well with Iran's rulers.
"It was the U.S. that caused such an incident to take place," Iranian President Hassan Rouhani said, according to the country's state news agency.
Isn't it great that Canada's state news agency is echoing the talking points of Iran's state news agency?
When Simpson asked Republicans in Congress about Trudeau's comments, House minority leader Kevin Mccarthy put the blame for Flight PS752 being shot down solely and firmly at the feet of Iran.
"There's no blame here for America," Mccarthy said. "Iran went past a red line they had not gone (past) before, killing a U.S. citizen. Iran shot down an innocent commercial airliner. There is no doubt where the blame lies."
I don't see how you can have a "mistake" when there are two missiles 30 seconds apart.
Andy Scheer blames Iran alone for shooting down a civilian airliner and then denying it. :thumbup:

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UK adds entire Hezbollah movement to terror blacklist and freezes its assets (//https)
Israel, in a southern suburb of Beirut, Lebanon, on November 12, 2010. (AP Photo/Hussein Malla, File)
LONDON — Britain's finance ministry on Friday said it had added Lebanon's entire Hezbollah movement to its list of terrorist groups subject to asset freezing.
The ministry previously only targeted the Shiite organization's military wing but has now listed the whole group after the government designated it a terrorist organization last March.
The change requires any individual or institution in Britain with accounts or financial services connected to Hezbollah to suspend them or face prosecution.
"This listing includes the Military Wing, the Jihad Council and all units reporting to it, including the External Security Organization."
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UK adds entire Hezbollah movement to terror blacklist and freezes its assets (//https)
Israel, in a southern suburb of Beirut, Lebanon, on November 12, 2010. (AP Photo/Hussein Malla, File)
LONDON — Britain's finance ministry on Friday said it had added Lebanon's entire Hezbollah movement to its list of terrorist groups subject to asset freezing.
The ministry previously only targeted the Shiite organization's military wing but has now listed the whole group after the government designated it a terrorist organization last March.
The change requires any individual or institution in Britain with accounts or financial services connected to Hezbollah to suspend them or face prosecution.
"This listing includes the Military Wing, the Jihad Council and all units reporting to it, including the External Security Organization."
They should've done this long ago.
Iranian MP promises 3 million dollars for the man/woman who kills President Donald Trump..
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Iranian MP promises 3 million dollars for the man/woman who kills President Donald Trump..
That is reminiscent of the reward Iran offered to kill author Salman Rushdie.
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Iranian MP promises 3 million dollars for the man/woman who kills President Donald Trump..
Think the only damage they'll do to Trump is his mental health when his blood pressure rises after realizing how cheap his bounty is.
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Iranian MP promises 3 million dollars for the man/woman who kills President Donald Trump..
Think the only damage they'll do to Trump is his mental health when his blood pressure rises after realizing how cheap his bounty is.
That bounty is all for show. The Iranian regime likes theatrics.
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Iranian MP promises 3 million dollars for the man/woman who kills President Donald Trump..
Think the only damage they'll do to Trump is his mental health when his blood pressure rises after realizing how cheap his bounty is.
That bounty is all for show. The Iranian regime likes theatrics.
I wouldn't be surprised, countries like Iran and China only got the balls to terrorize harmless targets like Canada, cargo ships or civilians, but when it comes to dealing with real opponents like the US they couldn't run any faster. ac_umm
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Iranian MP promises 3 million dollars for the man/woman who kills President Donald Trump..
Think the only damage they'll do to Trump is his mental health when his blood pressure rises after realizing how cheap his bounty is.
That bounty is all for show. The Iranian regime likes theatrics.
I wouldn't be surprised, countries like Iran and China only got the balls to terrorize harmless targets like Canada, cargo ships or civilians, but when it comes to dealing with real opponents like the US they couldn't run any faster. ac_umm
If either country did, Justine would blame Trump.
Iran ends cooperation with Ukraine on plane crash probe (//https)
Turns out that Iran knew from the very start that they had shot down the plane. Along with knowledge of their own system, a plane nearby saw the 2 rockets and reported them
Iran, always the outlier as a result of criticism broke off all cooperation with Ukraine
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Iran ends cooperation with Ukraine on plane crash probe (//https)
Turns out that Iran knew from the very start that they had shot down the plane. Along with knowledge of their own system, a plane nearby saw the 2 rockets and reported them
Iran, always the outlier as a result of criticism broke off all cooperation with Ukraine
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Of course they knew.. It was their missiles that brought it down.
The issue is whether it was deliberate or not..
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Of course they knew.. It was their missiles that brought it down.
The issue is whether it was deliberate or not..
The issue is who authorized it.
My points were - Iran ends cooperation with Ukraine on plane crash probe ... I find despicable
And that they did not admit it until totally caught also despicable
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My points were - Iran ends cooperation with Ukraine on plane crash probe ... I find despicable
And that they did not admit it until totally caught also despicable
The Iranian regime is despicable.