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Title: Australia wildfires
Post by: Vancouver on January 03, 2020, 10:52:14 AM
How are our Australian friends doing? I just read the biggest evacuation in Australia. Animals dead. State of emergency.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: realgrimm on January 03, 2020, 10:58:27 AM
Crazy agenda here..people setting fires and blaming climate change..



I wish all Aussies safety..One of the most beautiful places on earth up in smoke
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 03, 2020, 11:01:04 AM
Quote from: "realgrimm"Crazy agenda here..people setting fires and blaming climate change..



I wish all Aussies safety..One of the most beautiful places on earth up in smoke

That's so dishonest of alarmists..



The Eastern state of New South Wales has declared an emergency.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: realgrimm on January 03, 2020, 11:05:04 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
That's so dishonest of alarmists..


but not uncommon Im afraid,false flags and mass manipulation are their calling cards
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 03, 2020, 11:09:06 AM
Quote from: "realgrimm"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
That's so dishonest of alarmists..


but not uncommon Im afraid,false flags and mass manipulation are their calling cards

I would not be the least but surprised if some of the fires were deliberately started by those with an agenda.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 03, 2020, 11:53:30 AM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "realgrimm"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
That's so dishonest of alarmists..


but not uncommon Im afraid,false flags and mass manipulation are their calling cards

I would not be the least but surprised if some of the fires were deliberately started by those with an agenda.

I've never seen arrests made in Canada's large wildfires even though human error or arson are to blame.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 03, 2020, 03:11:10 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "realgrimm"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
That's so dishonest of alarmists..


but not uncommon Im afraid,false flags and mass manipulation are their calling cards

I would not be the least but surprised if some of the fires were deliberately started by those with an agenda.

Even if alarmists didn't start any of the fires, I'm sure they are happy that they can milk it to advance their cause.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 03, 2020, 04:44:03 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "realgrimm"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
That's so dishonest of alarmists..


but not uncommon Im afraid,false flags and mass manipulation are their calling cards

I would not be the least but surprised if some of the fires were deliberately started by those with an agenda.

Even if alarmists didn't start any of the fires, I'm sure they are happy that they can milk it to advance their cause.

There's an editorial in the New York Times headlined Australia Is Committing Climate Suicide.

 :crazy:

As if any government action could've prevented these catastrophic wild fires.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Bricktop on January 03, 2020, 06:28:12 PM
It's a frightening mess. Most of the last 2 weeks we've been covered in smoke from the fires around the city of Adelaide. We live about 15km from the closest fire currently burning.



I've never seen a sunset so red as this;



https://scontent.fadl5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/81813314_2812894852064187_3045598186182803456_o.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ohc=wX6zaTf2hCUAQkdam7FNW1UMjNhkhDKNzEz4kWm-t4qttW93SV5PNVcLw&_nc_ht=scontent.fadl5-1.fna&oh=42ac345c676160a7005ac28b75058fd4&oe=5EADB830



It's caused by the smoke and ash in the air...even though it looked reasonably clear.



This is what you get when the greens and environmentalists block safe burnoffs during cooler months to reduce fuel levels for bushfires.



The cost to the nation will be in the billions.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 03, 2020, 06:38:19 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"It's a frightening mess. Most of the last 2 weeks we've been covered in smoke from the fires around the city of Adelaide. We live about 15km from the closest fire currently burning.



I've never seen a sunset so red as this;



https://scontent.fadl5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/81813314_2812894852064187_3045598186182803456_o.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ohc=wX6zaTf2hCUAQkdam7FNW1UMjNhkhDKNzEz4kWm-t4qttW93SV5PNVcLw&_nc_ht=scontent.fadl5-1.fna&oh=42ac345c676160a7005ac28b75058fd4&oe=5EADB830



It's caused by the smoke and ash in the air...even though it looked reasonably clear.



This is what you get when the greens and environmentalists block safe burnoffs during cooler months to reduce fuel levels for bushfires.



The cost to the nation will be in the billions.

Happy new year Bricktop..



I'm so glad you have had no damage to your property..



Is it hard to breathe at times?
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Bricktop on January 03, 2020, 06:44:59 PM
Thanks, Fash...a happy new year to you and your family.



We had two or three days where we had to close all windows, but they were also over 40C so we had the A/C running. However, many people with breathing disorders were affected and some had to leave for clearer air.



I wouldn't say it was hard to breathe for most people without disorders...but it sure was unpleasant and irritated the nose and throat.



However, compared to the loss of life and property, it is an insignificant irritation.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 03, 2020, 06:55:15 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Thanks, Fash...a happy new year to you and your family.



We had two or three days where we had to close all windows, but they were also over 40C so we had the A/C running. However, many people with breathing disorders were affected and some had to leave for clearer air.



I wouldn't say it was hard to breathe for most people without disorders...but it sure was unpleasant and irritated the nose and throat.



However, compared to the loss of life and property, it is an insignificant irritation.

We had huge forest fires in the North Eastern part of the province three years ago..



Even though I live 750 kms South of the centre of the huge forest fires, when winds shifted South, the sky here was orange and it was difficult to breathe outside..
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 03, 2020, 06:56:23 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"It's a frightening mess. Most of the last 2 weeks we've been covered in smoke from the fires around the city of Adelaide. We live about 15km from the closest fire currently burning.



I've never seen a sunset so red as this;



https://scontent.fadl5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/81813314_2812894852064187_3045598186182803456_o.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ohc=wX6zaTf2hCUAQkdam7FNW1UMjNhkhDKNzEz4kWm-t4qttW93SV5PNVcLw&_nc_ht=scontent.fadl5-1.fna&oh=42ac345c676160a7005ac28b75058fd4&oe=5EADB830



It's caused by the smoke and ash in the air...even though it looked reasonably clear.



This is what you get when the greens and environmentalists block safe burnoffs during cooler months to reduce fuel levels for bushfires.



The cost to the nation will be in the billions.

Jesus H, that is a fireball of a sunset.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 03, 2020, 07:29:06 PM
This is an article that appeared in the Daily Telegraph.



https://volunteerfirefighters.org.au/it-is-high-time-bureaucrats-and-politicians-stopped-blaming-climate-change-for-a-bushfire-crisis-that-is-very-much-of-their-own-making-and-is-putting-lives-at-risk?fbclid=IwAR0eAoGYUVCpQ3p2DVlqT460ek-JJX2sumpUSmWAujmidGToJhxZV76LDkY

Adding Fuel to the Fire

No one is denying the gravity of what people and firefighters have been through now, but it is no use gilding the lily here.



You can't have a fire without fuel.



Two factors above all else come into play here.



In NSW, when Bob Carr was the minister, and later premier, he ratified moves to have fire trails abandoned.



Carr's moves prevented access to those fire trails by the Rural Fire Service, under the pretext he was keeping four 4WDs and campers out.



The government (and how many problems that we face today are created by government?) put locked gates on these national parks and planted big rocks at the entry to the fire trails.



Understandably, the fire trails are now overgrown with regrowth forest, impenetrable to everybody except native and feral animals.



Yet it was these fire trails that enabled the fire fighters to get to the heart of a fire.



They could then create back burning and land clearing.



Fire fighters could mobilise earth-moving equipment and successfully put the fire out.



In those days, water bombing wasn't in vogue.



It wasn't necessary and, anyway, it was too expensive. The fire trails were "fit for purpose".



Today, the fire fighters know they are hopelessly limited by where they can gain access to the fires. They have to rely on very expensive water bombing strategies.



The greenies, of course, endorse this strategy.



Except that they, disturbingly, prefer the use of freshwater, which we don't have, over salt water in putting out bushfires.



And that is allegedly to "protect" the environment.



What is all this 'protect the environment' hypocrisy? When have we seen any Greens MP, Zali Steggall, Adam Bandt, Sarah Hanson-Young and their leader, Richard Di Natale, line up alongside Tony Abbott to fight the fires?"



Then-senator John Williams said in 2013, "The problem in our national parks is that we have these savage fires with huge amounts of fuel per hectare; we are killing the trees, we're killing the animals, we're killing the koalas and anything else that lives in these areas and we call it conservation ..."



You and I would call it destruction.



I repeat, you cannot have a fire without fuel.



Re-Learn to Burn



When you think there are seven million hectares of national parks in NSW alone, 200 of them in Sydney, and yet hazard reduction burns have occurred on less than 1 per cent of fire-prone land, then we are staring at a potential inferno.



This has nothing to do with climate change.



Dr Paul Read, co-director of Australia's National Centre for Research in Bushfire and Arson, puts the number of bushfires in Australia per year at, on average, "62,000 and increasing".



Of those, 13 per cent are started deliberately and 37 per cent are suspicious. That means 31,000 Australian bushfires are either the product of arson or suspected arson, every year. That means that up to 85 bushfires begin every day because someone leaves their home and decides to start one.



Local governments are being blamed for all of this, but they have no power to even lift a fallen tree or remove a broken branch.



If they want to back-burn or reduce the fuel on the forest floor, they must get permission from state government and jump through endless hoops.



That is, if local government want to reduce the fire hazard.



Indigenous Australians knew how to deal with fire. We have learnt nothing from them. The problem is simple. There is too much fuel on the floor and we cannot get at it.



Arguing that we need more water bombers, and we will have to buy them from overseas, is attacking the symptom, not the disease.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 03, 2020, 09:18:24 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"Thanks, Fash...a happy new year to you and your family.



We had two or three days where we had to close all windows, but they were also over 40C so we had the A/C running. However, many people with breathing disorders were affected and some had to leave for clearer air.



I wouldn't say it was hard to breathe for most people without disorders...but it sure was unpleasant and irritated the nose and throat.



However, compared to the loss of life and property, it is an insignificant irritation.

You fared better than many of your fellow South Australians and I am glad of that.



Fires on Kangaroo Island are turning into fire twisters.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: realgrimm on January 03, 2020, 10:27:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6hJiT1KyMg&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 03, 2020, 10:34:32 PM
Quote from: "realgrimm"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6hJiT1KyMg&feature=emb_logo

 :shock:
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Bricktop on January 03, 2020, 10:59:00 PM
As I sit in our family area, the smoke from that fire is covering the city, and our eyes are watering.



This is not the same fire that we've endured over the last week but a new one.



It seems endless at the moment. Kangaroo Island is about 80 kilometres from the city as the crow flies.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 03, 2020, 11:04:19 PM
Quote from: "Bricktop"As I sit in our family area, the smoke from that fire is covering the city, and our eyes are watering.



This is not the same fire that we've endured over the last week but a new one.



It seems endless at the moment. Kangaroo Island is about 80 kilometres from the city as the crow flies.

Hiya BT and happy new year.



How long has the city been covered in smoke? We had it here a few years ago. It only lasted about two days until the wind changed direction. It made people sick.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 03, 2020, 11:22:16 PM
We never seem to get serious forest fires in Southern Ontario like they do out West. Northern Ontario has had some major forest fires.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 03, 2020, 11:59:51 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"We never seem to get serious forest fires in Southern Ontario like they do out West. Northern Ontario has had some major forest fires.

The GTA needs a good raging wildfire. You pricks got Justine reelected.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2020, 12:10:09 AM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "seoulbro"We never seem to get serious forest fires in Southern Ontario like they do out West. Northern Ontario has had some major forest fires.

The GTA needs a good raging wildfire. You pricks got Justine reelected.

I live beyond the GTA and I didn't vote for JT.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Bricktop on January 04, 2020, 12:59:04 AM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Bricktop"As I sit in our family area, the smoke from that fire is covering the city, and our eyes are watering.



This is not the same fire that we've endured over the last week but a new one.



It seems endless at the moment. Kangaroo Island is about 80 kilometres from the city as the crow flies.

Hiya BT and happy new year.



How long has the city been covered in smoke? We had it here a few years ago. It only lasted about two days until the wind changed direction. It made people sick.


It's been a couple of weeks, on and off dependent on wind changes.



There's been a number of fires in different locations in that time.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2020, 01:13:34 AM
Yep, wind decides whether you have orange smoky air or not.



This vid tugs at the heart strings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOo3cAz7w8Q
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on January 04, 2020, 05:44:01 AM
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"How are our Australian friends doing? I just read the biggest evacuation in Australia. Animals dead. State of emergency.


My heart is completely broken.



Also today on the news from Kangaroo Island, two dead... 80 year old pilot and his 43 yr old plastic surgeon son.



I can't even speak about the fires. It's all stuck in my chest.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on January 04, 2020, 07:39:43 AM
The 2019–20 Australian bushfire season has burned an estimated 6,300,000 hectares (16,000,000 acres; 63,000 km2; 24,000 sq mi), destroyed over 2,500 buildings (including over 1,300 houses) and killed at least 24 people, with a further 6 missing in the state of Victoria.

Burned area: 3,700,000 hectares (9,142,899 a...

Fatalities: at least 9

Date(s): August 2019 – Current

Buildings destroyed: > 2,500

2019–20 Australian bushfire season - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › 2019–20_Australian_bushfire_season
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2020, 12:54:15 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"Yep, wind decides whether you have orange smoky air or not.



This vid tugs at the heart strings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOo3cAz7w8Q

That is not normal behaviour for a wild animal.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2020, 12:59:52 PM
Quote from: "caskur"The 2019–20 Australian bushfire season has burned an estimated 6,300,000 hectares (16,000,000 acres; 63,000 km2; 24,000 sq mi), destroyed over 2,500 buildings (including over 1,300 houses) and killed at least 24 people, with a further 6 missing in the state of Victoria.

Burned area: 3,700,000 hectares (9,142,899 a...

Fatalities: at least 9

Date(s): August 2019 – Current

Buildings destroyed: > 2,500

2019–20 Australian bushfire season - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › 2019–20_Australian_bushfire_season

heartbreaking
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2020, 01:58:02 PM
Quote from: "caskur"The 2019–20 Australian bushfire season has burned an estimated 6,300,000 hectares (16,000,000 acres; 63,000 km2; 24,000 sq mi), destroyed over 2,500 buildings (including over 1,300 houses) and killed at least 24 people, with a further 6 missing in the state of Victoria.

Burned area: 3,700,000 hectares (9,142,899 a...

Fatalities: at least 9

Date(s): August 2019 – Current

Buildings destroyed: > 2,500

2019–20 Australian bushfire season - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › 2019–20_Australian_bushfire_season

Just to put this in perspective, Switzerland is 4.1285 million hectares.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2020, 03:33:12 PM
Quote from: "caskur"The 2019–20 Australian bushfire season has burned an estimated 6,300,000 hectares (16,000,000 acres; 63,000 km2; 24,000 sq mi), destroyed over 2,500 buildings (including over 1,300 houses) and killed at least 24 people, with a further 6 missing in the state of Victoria.

Burned area: 3,700,000 hectares (9,142,899 a...

Fatalities: at least 9

Date(s): August 2019 – Current

Buildings destroyed: > 2,500

2019–20 Australian bushfire season - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › 2019–20_Australian_bushfire_season

The entire coastal area of Australia is on fire.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Frood on January 04, 2020, 10:27:29 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "caskur"The 2019–20 Australian bushfire season has burned an estimated 6,300,000 hectares (16,000,000 acres; 63,000 km2; 24,000 sq mi), destroyed over 2,500 buildings (including over 1,300 houses) and killed at least 24 people, with a further 6 missing in the state of Victoria.

Burned area: 3,700,000 hectares (9,142,899 a...

Fatalities: at least 9

Date(s): August 2019 – Current

Buildings destroyed: > 2,500

2019–20 Australian bushfire season - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › 2019–20_Australian_bushfire_season

The entire coastal area of Australia is on fire.


It's raining and 10.8C where we are.





Burrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2020, 10:34:23 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "caskur"The 2019–20 Australian bushfire season has burned an estimated 6,300,000 hectares (16,000,000 acres; 63,000 km2; 24,000 sq mi), destroyed over 2,500 buildings (including over 1,300 houses) and killed at least 24 people, with a further 6 missing in the state of Victoria.

Burned area: 3,700,000 hectares (9,142,899 a...

Fatalities: at least 9

Date(s): August 2019 – Current

Buildings destroyed: > 2,500

2019–20 Australian bushfire season - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › 2019–20_Australian_bushfire_season

The entire coastal area of Australia is on fire.


It's raining and 10.8C where we are.





Burrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

That's good news.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Frood on January 04, 2020, 10:38:06 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "caskur"The 2019–20 Australian bushfire season has burned an estimated 6,300,000 hectares (16,000,000 acres; 63,000 km2; 24,000 sq mi), destroyed over 2,500 buildings (including over 1,300 houses) and killed at least 24 people, with a further 6 missing in the state of Victoria.

Burned area: 3,700,000 hectares (9,142,899 a...

Fatalities: at least 9

Date(s): August 2019 – Current

Buildings destroyed: > 2,500

2019–20 Australian bushfire season - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › 2019–20_Australian_bushfire_season

The entire coastal area of Australia is on fire.


It's raining and 10.8C where we are.





Burrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

That's good news.


If you like wearing woolly socks, jumpers, and beanies it is.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2020, 10:46:28 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "caskur"The 2019–20 Australian bushfire season has burned an estimated 6,300,000 hectares (16,000,000 acres; 63,000 km2; 24,000 sq mi), destroyed over 2,500 buildings (including over 1,300 houses) and killed at least 24 people, with a further 6 missing in the state of Victoria.

Burned area: 3,700,000 hectares (9,142,899 a...

Fatalities: at least 9

Date(s): August 2019 – Current

Buildings destroyed: > 2,500

2019–20 Australian bushfire season - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › 2019–20_Australian_bushfire_season

The entire coastal area of Australia is on fire.


It's raining and 10.8C where we are.





Burrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

That's good news.


If you like wearing woolly socks, jumpers, and beanies it is.

Some rain would be nice for the fires.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2020, 10:58:12 PM
I didn't know you could arrest climate change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwu8NASF6kw&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR20ai6NuonKGv3fZKMINBc6CHIe5TbU317aENXyaw6dvQUCXKSw01ALnC8
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2020, 11:21:32 PM
The wild fires ravaging Australia were not caused by climate change but by people deliberately or accidentally setting them. Possibly looking for ways to drum up support for the global warming carbon tax agenda.



" Almost 100 firebugs have deliberately started blazes across Queensland that have destroyed homes and consumed thousands of hectares of bushland."-(Brisbane Times)

As firefighters remained on high alert, police revealed 103 of the destructive fires that had lashed Queensland since September were deliberately lit.


QuoteDozens of firebugs blamed for destructive Queensland fires

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/dozens-of-firebugs-blamed-for-destructive-queensland-fires-20191220-p53m1i.html?fbclid=IwAR0DnvLojlCbtVf2b0c81KDUJgwSg_jMduflc1fIp9dy2JGZNZ8953b3sII
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Frood on January 04, 2020, 11:24:40 PM
Quote from: "Shen Li"The wild fires ravaging Australia were not caused by climate change but by people deliberately or accidentally setting them. Possibly looking for ways to drum up support for the global warming carbon tax agenda.



" Almost 100 firebugs have deliberately started blazes across Queensland that have destroyed homes and consumed thousands of hectares of bushland."-(Brisbane Times)

As firefighters remained on high alert, police revealed 103 of the destructive fires that had lashed Queensland since September were deliberately lit.


QuoteDozens of firebugs blamed for destructive Queensland fires

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/dozens-of-firebugs-blamed-for-destructive-queensland-fires-20191220-p53m1i.html?fbclid=IwAR0DnvLojlCbtVf2b0c81KDUJgwSg_jMduflc1fIp9dy2JGZNZ8953b3sII


Man and woman made climate change! A few kiddy climate changers too!



How dare we ignore their noble efforts!
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2020, 11:54:07 PM
Australia's climate policies responsible for this wildfires, my shapely yellow ass.



Man-made culprit #1: all the firebugs who have been deliberately starting fires in New South Wales, Queensland, and elsewhere. You won't be surprised that their involvement has had very little coverage in the left-liberal MSM.



Here's a story from December headlined 'Firebugs blamed for destructive Queensland fires' — it notes:



Figures obtained by AAP reveal 98 people – 31 adults and 67 juveniles – have been dealt with by Queensland police for deliberately setting fires.



A 16-year-old boy was found to have started a fire that razed 14 homes in central Queensland and dealt with under the state's Youth Justice Act.



Two more teens, 14 and 15, were charged with endangering property by fire over a blaze that destroyed two homes and forced hundreds to flee.



Man-made culprit #2: well-meaning idiots who don't understand that unless you manage forested areas with controlled burns, you're going to end up with out-of-control wildfires.



Jo Nova has a damning story about locals in East Gippsland in the state of Victoria who successfully stopped a planned controlled burn at Nowa Nowa. Two of them were pictured holding signs saying, "Spring burns kill baby birds alive" and "Stop burning nesting birds".



One grandmother was quoted as saying, "I'm more worried about climate change, and the impact the burns are having. I'm worried for my grandchildren."



ABC — the excruciatingly left-wing Australian Broadcasting Company, so woke it makes the BBC and CNN look like Fox News — reported on the protests with some enthusiasm last September but has since mysteriously decided to delete the story from Facebook.



If this is the kind of obstructive idiocy that the mainstream media and the junk-science climate alarmism industry have created with their global warming propaganda, then the mainstream media and the junk-science climate alarmism industry have blood on their hands.



Man-made culprit #3: Greens



The people most to blame for the Australian bush fires are the greens. Just like in California, their tree-hugging Gaia worship blinded them to the reality that forests need regular clearance and maintenance if they are not to become a major fire hazard. Some Australian politicians on the right side of the argument are well aware of this:



"The problems we have got have been created by the Greens," Mr [Barnaby] Joyce told The Australian.



"We haven't had the capacity to easily access (hazard) reduction burns because of all of the paperwork that is part of green policy.



"We don't have access to dams because they have been decommissioned on national parks because of green policy. We have trees that have fallen over vehicles and block roads, so people cannot either get access to fight a fire or to get away from fires. And we can't knock over the trees because of Greens policy.



Deputy Prime Minister Michael McCormack has lashed the "disgraceful, disgusting" behaviour of "raving inner-city lunatics" for linking climate change to the ferocious bushfires burning across Queensland and NSW.



Yet still, in large parts of Australia, it remains illegal to remove trees from your land even in order to create fire breaks and protect your property — despite the obvious risk this ban creates to homeowners living in potential bush-fire zones. Trees have been designated a 'carbon sink', which supposedly offset Australia's CO2 emissions.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 05, 2020, 01:51:00 AM
Blaming Australia's miniscule contribution to global C02 emissions for Australia's bush fires makes no sense.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on January 05, 2020, 03:07:26 AM
Fires are deliberately lit in Australia.



And fires are started on a smaller but still significant degree, lightning.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Frood on January 05, 2020, 03:21:40 AM
Quote from: "caskur"Fires are deliberately lit in Australia.



And fires are started on a smaller but still significant degree, lightning.


Indeed.



Although the ones in Qld and NSW were mostly deliberately lit just like the ones in Brazil.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on January 05, 2020, 03:28:58 AM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "caskur"Fires are deliberately lit in Australia.



And fires are started on a smaller but still significant degree, lightning.


Indeed.



Although the ones in Qld and NSW were mostly deliberately lit just like the ones in Brazil.




I'm so white hot with anger on the arsonists, I cannot even say anything on my facebook groups or I'd be reported for beligerancy.



Some of my members are volunteer firemen and firemen chiefs.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Frood on January 05, 2020, 04:35:09 AM
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "caskur"Fires are deliberately lit in Australia.



And fires are started on a smaller but still significant degree, lightning.


Indeed.



Although the ones in Qld and NSW were mostly deliberately lit just like the ones in Brazil.




I'm so white hot with anger on the arsonists, I cannot even say anything on my facebook groups or I'd be reported for beligerancy.



Some of my members are volunteer firemen and firemen chiefs.


I share your anger, caskur.



My community is on a heightened state of alert over the next week and it makes me rage to think some fckwit millennial could possibly spark up.



These aren't just homes. These are human lives!



Nobody deserves to be burnt alive.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 05, 2020, 11:32:21 AM
Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I can't help but suspect that at least some of the firebugs were alarmists looking to further their agenda.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 05, 2020, 02:16:45 PM
Two main things are needed for massive bushfires – fuel and ignition. Fuel load is usually highest after periods of rapid growth and rain, followed by drying out. Hazard reduction is a preventive measure that reduces fuel load in vulnerable areas. If done with sensitivity to habitat, it works well. Politician ignoring science/engineering and having their strings pulled by greenie stupidity banned controlled burns and paths around bush areas that have allowed arsonists to inflict maximum destruction.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 05, 2020, 07:52:29 PM
It is disgusting and absurd to blame Australia's bushfires on climate change policy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKGtqbYkBq0
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 05, 2020, 09:30:35 PM
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Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 05, 2020, 09:36:57 PM
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Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 05, 2020, 10:22:15 PM
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Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on January 06, 2020, 03:09:10 AM
I was just listening to the news and they said its rained in some places (12 mm) and they are complaining it has been more of a hinderance....... You can't satisfy some people.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on January 06, 2020, 03:11:38 AM
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lol... how many aborigines died getting caught in fires before white fellas rocked up?



lemme guess... thousands?
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on January 06, 2020, 03:13:59 AM
Dear God, please send more rain to stop the back burning.



Please.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 06, 2020, 09:52:25 AM
Quote from: "caskur"Dear God, please send more rain to stop the back burning.



Please.

I saw on the news parts of Australia had cooler temperatures and rain.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 06, 2020, 09:54:11 AM
Quote from: "caskur"I was just listening to the news and they said its rained in some places (12 mm) and they are complaining it has been more of a hinderance....... You can't satisfy some people.

The fires where you live are not as bad as in the East are they caskur?
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on January 06, 2020, 10:20:49 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "caskur"I was just listening to the news and they said its rained in some places (12 mm) and they are complaining it has been more of a hinderance....... You can't satisfy some people.

The fires where you live are not as bad as in the East are they caskur?




We had a bad one before Christmas 1-2 hours north of me >>> Yanchep. https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/wa-bushfires-yanchep-fire-flares-up-again-threat-to-lives-and-homes-20191212-p53jai.html



 and one last week, 5-6 south of me...https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-06/stirling-mega-blaze-volunteer-response/11842422



And 4 days ago one in WA on the Nullabor >>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-03/nullarbor-road-closures-to-last-five-days-causing-food-shortages/11837324





So yes, we have big fires but we don't beg for money from the rest of the world. We take care of ourselves.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 06, 2020, 10:31:33 AM
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "caskur"I was just listening to the news and they said its rained in some places (12 mm) and they are complaining it has been more of a hinderance....... You can't satisfy some people.

The fires where you live are not as bad as in the East are they caskur?




We had a bad one before Christmas 1-2 hours north of me >>> Yanchep. https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/wa-bushfires-yanchep-fire-flares-up-again-threat-to-lives-and-homes-20191212-p53jai.html



 and one last week, 5-6 south of me...https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-06/stirling-mega-blaze-volunteer-response/11842422



And 4 days ago one in WA on the Nullabor >>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-03/nullarbor-road-closures-to-last-five-days-causing-food-shortages/11837324





So yes, we have big fires but we don't beg for money from the rest of the world. We take care of ourselves.

About 120 forest fire fighters from my province are in Australia now(not sure which states) to fight the bushfires..



When we had the massive Fort McMurray wild fires, Australians came here to help..



I don't consider that begging for money......it's helping friends in times of need.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on January 06, 2020, 11:12:01 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "caskur"I was just listening to the news and they said its rained in some places (12 mm) and they are complaining it has been more of a hinderance....... You can't satisfy some people.

The fires where you live are not as bad as in the East are they caskur?




We had a bad one before Christmas 1-2 hours north of me >>> Yanchep. https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/wa-bushfires-yanchep-fire-flares-up-again-threat-to-lives-and-homes-20191212-p53jai.html



 and one last week, 5-6 south of me...https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-06/stirling-mega-blaze-volunteer-response/11842422



And 4 days ago one in WA on the Nullabor >>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-03/nullarbor-road-closures-to-last-five-days-causing-food-shortages/11837324





So yes, we have big fires but we don't beg for money from the rest of the world. We take care of ourselves.

About 120 forest fire fighters from my province are in Australia now(not sure which states) to fight the bushfires..



When we had the massive Fort McMurray wild fires, Australians came here to help..



I don't consider that begging for money......it's helping friends in times of need.


No, not the firefighters, money has been raised from around the world... 23 million so far.







30 million now.



https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-06/celeste-barber-bushfire-fundraiser-raises-more-than-30-million/11843258
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Moonpie on January 06, 2020, 12:05:12 PM
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"How are our Australian friends doing? I just read the biggest evacuation in Australia. Animals dead. State of emergency.


My heart is completely broken.



Also today on the news from Kangaroo Island, two dead... 80 year old pilot and his 43 yr old plastic surgeon son.



I can't even speak about the fires. It's all stuck in my chest.


Praying, this is awful.  My heart goes out to you all.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on January 06, 2020, 12:10:44 PM
Quote from: "ArabPrinCess"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"How are our Australian friends doing? I just read the biggest evacuation in Australia. Animals dead. State of emergency.


My heart is completely broken.



Also today on the news from Kangaroo Island, two dead... 80 year old pilot and his 43 yr old plastic surgeon son.



I can't even speak about the fires. It's all stuck in my chest.


Praying, this is awful.  My heart goes out to you all.


The destruction of the wildlife kills me the most...Humans can rebuild but some of our native animals and birds are on the brink of extinction.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Moonpie on January 06, 2020, 12:13:25 PM
So true
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 06, 2020, 12:26:41 PM
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "ArabPrinCess"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"How are our Australian friends doing? I just read the biggest evacuation in Australia. Animals dead. State of emergency.


My heart is completely broken.



Also today on the news from Kangaroo Island, two dead... 80 year old pilot and his 43 yr old plastic surgeon son.



I can't even speak about the fires. It's all stuck in my chest.


Praying, this is awful.  My heart goes out to you all.


The destruction of the wildlife kills me the most...Humans can rebuild but some of our native animals and birds are on the brink of extinction.

I heard 500 million wild and domesticated animals have been lost. :shock:
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on January 06, 2020, 12:33:03 PM
Quote from: "Velvet"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "ArabPrinCess"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"How are our Australian friends doing? I just read the biggest evacuation in Australia. Animals dead. State of emergency.


My heart is completely broken.



Also today on the news from Kangaroo Island, two dead... 80 year old pilot and his 43 yr old plastic surgeon son.



I can't even speak about the fires. It's all stuck in my chest.


Praying, this is awful.  My heart goes out to you all.


The destruction of the wildlife kills me the most...Humans can rebuild but some of our native animals and birds are on the brink of extinction.

I heard 500 million wild and domesticated animals have been lost. :shock:


I heard 100,000 sheep died in one place. Our food is going to go sky high in prices no doubt.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 06, 2020, 12:35:58 PM
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Velvet"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "ArabPrinCess"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"How are our Australian friends doing? I just read the biggest evacuation in Australia. Animals dead. State of emergency.


My heart is completely broken.



Also today on the news from Kangaroo Island, two dead... 80 year old pilot and his 43 yr old plastic surgeon son.



I can't even speak about the fires. It's all stuck in my chest.


Praying, this is awful.  My heart goes out to you all.


The destruction of the wildlife kills me the most...Humans can rebuild but some of our native animals and birds are on the brink of extinction.

I heard 500 million wild and domesticated animals have been lost. :shock:


I heard 100,000 sheep died in one place. Our food is going to go sky high in prices no doubt.

And I'm sure a lot of crops were lost too. Our winter produce comes from California. Their fires coincided with steep increases in our produce prices.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on January 06, 2020, 01:28:23 PM
Quote from: "Velvet"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Velvet"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "ArabPrinCess"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"How are our Australian friends doing? I just read the biggest evacuation in Australia. Animals dead. State of emergency.


My heart is completely broken.



Also today on the news from Kangaroo Island, two dead... 80 year old pilot and his 43 yr old plastic surgeon son.



I can't even speak about the fires. It's all stuck in my chest.


Praying, this is awful.  My heart goes out to you all.


The destruction of the wildlife kills me the most...Humans can rebuild but some of our native animals and birds are on the brink of extinction.

I heard 500 million wild and domesticated animals have been lost. :shock:


I heard 100,000 sheep died in one place. Our food is going to go sky high in prices no doubt.

And I'm sure a lot of crops were lost too. Our winter produce comes from California. Their fires coincided with steep increases in our produce prices.


The wheat is over and harvested but I did see a man lose most of his bee hives on Kangaroo Island... It's stone fruit season and I haven't heard the losses, if any. Grapes also, I haven't heart... but all the straw went up in smoke. That'll cause problems.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 06, 2020, 01:57:13 PM
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Velvet"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Velvet"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "ArabPrinCess"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"How are our Australian friends doing? I just read the biggest evacuation in Australia. Animals dead. State of emergency.


My heart is completely broken.



Also today on the news from Kangaroo Island, two dead... 80 year old pilot and his 43 yr old plastic surgeon son.



I can't even speak about the fires. It's all stuck in my chest.


Praying, this is awful.  My heart goes out to you all.


The destruction of the wildlife kills me the most...Humans can rebuild but some of our native animals and birds are on the brink of extinction.

I heard 500 million wild and domesticated animals have been lost. :shock:


I heard 100,000 sheep died in one place. Our food is going to go sky high in prices no doubt.

And I'm sure a lot of crops were lost too. Our winter produce comes from California. Their fires coincided with steep increases in our produce prices.


The wheat is over and harvested but I did see a man lose most of his bee hives on Kangaroo Island... It's stone fruit season and I haven't heard the losses, if any. Grapes also, I haven't heart... but all the straw went up in smoke. That'll cause problems.

There must have been produce lost. I expect food prices to soar.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on January 06, 2020, 02:09:39 PM
The rain came and stopped the back burning...



See what happens next week.



From the past...



Ash Wednesday - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_Ash_Wednesday_bushfires



the first Ash Wednesday fires were a series of bushfires that began in the Adelaide Hills, South Australia, on Ash Wednesday, 20 February 1980.[1] 51 homes and 25 other buildings were destroyed, and 75 farms were affected. 40 people were injured, with 150 left homeless. The fire burnt an area of 3,770 ha (14.6 sq mi),[2] and caused an estimated $34,000,000 damage.[3]

In 1983, after the Ash Wednesday fires in February that year, the 1980 fire became known in South Australia as the "first" Ash Wednesday, or Ash Wednesday I.[2]



Black Saturday... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Saturday_bushfires



The Black Saturday bushfires[10] were a series of bushfires that ignited or were burning across the Australian state of Victoria on and around Saturday, 7 February 2009 and were among Australia's all-time worst bushfire disasters. The fires occurred during extreme bushfire weather conditions and resulted in Australia's highest ever loss of life from a bushfire,[11] with 173 fatalities.[12] Many people were left homeless as a result.

As many as 400 individual fires were recorded on Saturday 7 February; the day has become widely referred to in Australia as Black Saturday.

A Royal Commission, headed by Justice Bernard Teague, was held.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 06, 2020, 02:29:42 PM
These are not the first big bushfires Australia has had.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on January 06, 2020, 02:42:07 PM
Quote from: "Velvet"These are not the first big bushfires Australia has had.


I think these ones today are the worst ever because they're in NSW and Vic and they are back burning.



The fireman are deliberately making fires (back burning). They claim they are frightened the areas of fire will join up creating a super fire completely out of control.



They're trying to protect homes but they couldn't careless about the forest and native animals.



As Dinky Di says, fires aren't a novelty here in Australia, it's the norm, what is not the norm, is them starting back burns.



My state does burn off during Winter/Spring and so we get less catastrophe than the Eastern States when we have fires.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on January 06, 2020, 02:48:36 PM
We have a Cyclone (hurricane) in my state atm



https://www.weatherzone.com.au/satellite/wa



Tropical Cyclone Blake... (Go put out some fire!~)
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 06, 2020, 06:24:24 PM
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Velvet"These are not the first big bushfires Australia has had.


I think these ones today are the worst ever because they're in NSW and Vic and they are back burning.



The fireman are deliberately making fires (back burning). They claim they are frightened the areas of fire will join up creating a super fire completely out of control.



They're trying to protect homes but they couldn't careless about the forest and native animals.



As Dinky Di says, fires aren't a novelty here in Australia, it's the norm, what is not the norm, is them starting back burns.



My state does burn off during Winter/Spring and so we get less catastrophe than the Eastern States when we have fires.

It seems in NSW and Queensland, bushfires were caused by arson.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 06, 2020, 08:09:37 PM
Quote from: "Velvet"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Velvet"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Velvet"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "ArabPrinCess"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"How are our Australian friends doing? I just read the biggest evacuation in Australia. Animals dead. State of emergency.


My heart is completely broken.



Also today on the news from Kangaroo Island, two dead... 80 year old pilot and his 43 yr old plastic surgeon son.



I can't even speak about the fires. It's all stuck in my chest.


Praying, this is awful.  My heart goes out to you all.


The destruction of the wildlife kills me the most...Humans can rebuild but some of our native animals and birds are on the brink of extinction.

I heard 500 million wild and domesticated animals have been lost. :shock:


I heard 100,000 sheep died in one place. Our food is going to go sky high in prices no doubt.

And I'm sure a lot of crops were lost too. Our winter produce comes from California. Their fires coincided with steep increases in our produce prices.


The wheat is over and harvested but I did see a man lose most of his bee hives on Kangaroo Island... It's stone fruit season and I haven't heard the losses, if any. Grapes also, I haven't heart... but all the straw went up in smoke. That'll cause problems.

There must have been produce lost. I expect food prices to soar.

Even if no crops were wiped out, grocery retailers will use it as an excuse to raise prices.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 06, 2020, 08:24:48 PM
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Velvet"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Velvet"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Velvet"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "ArabPrinCess"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"How are our Australian friends doing? I just read the biggest evacuation in Australia. Animals dead. State of emergency.


My heart is completely broken.



Also today on the news from Kangaroo Island, two dead... 80 year old pilot and his 43 yr old plastic surgeon son.



I can't even speak about the fires. It's all stuck in my chest.


Praying, this is awful.  My heart goes out to you all.


The destruction of the wildlife kills me the most...Humans can rebuild but some of our native animals and birds are on the brink of extinction.

I heard 500 million wild and domesticated animals have been lost. :shock:


I heard 100,000 sheep died in one place. Our food is going to go sky high in prices no doubt.

And I'm sure a lot of crops were lost too. Our winter produce comes from California. Their fires coincided with steep increases in our produce prices.


The wheat is over and harvested but I did see a man lose most of his bee hives on Kangaroo Island... It's stone fruit season and I haven't heard the losses, if any. Grapes also, I haven't heart... but all the straw went up in smoke. That'll cause problems.

There must have been produce lost. I expect food prices to soar.

Even if no crops were wiped out, grocery retailers will use it as an excuse to raise prices.

No offense IHJ, but you can be so cynical and negative.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 06, 2020, 08:31:33 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Velvet"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Velvet"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Velvet"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "ArabPrinCess"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"How are our Australian friends doing? I just read the biggest evacuation in Australia. Animals dead. State of emergency.


My heart is completely broken.



Also today on the news from Kangaroo Island, two dead... 80 year old pilot and his 43 yr old plastic surgeon son.



I can't even speak about the fires. It's all stuck in my chest.


Praying, this is awful.  My heart goes out to you all.


The destruction of the wildlife kills me the most...Humans can rebuild but some of our native animals and birds are on the brink of extinction.

I heard 500 million wild and domesticated animals have been lost. :shock:


I heard 100,000 sheep died in one place. Our food is going to go sky high in prices no doubt.

And I'm sure a lot of crops were lost too. Our winter produce comes from California. Their fires coincided with steep increases in our produce prices.


The wheat is over and harvested but I did see a man lose most of his bee hives on Kangaroo Island... It's stone fruit season and I haven't heard the losses, if any. Grapes also, I haven't heart... but all the straw went up in smoke. That'll cause problems.

There must have been produce lost. I expect food prices to soar.

Even if no crops were wiped out, grocery retailers will use it as an excuse to raise prices.

No offense IHJ, but you can be so cynical and negative.

I call it like it is.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Vancouver on January 06, 2020, 09:00:24 PM
Where the animals left to die while humans took refuge among the stars.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 06, 2020, 09:10:09 PM
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"Where the animals left to die while humans took refuge among the stars.

I would imagine farmers tried to save their livestock..



Wild animals are a lot harder to save.....they fear humans.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 06, 2020, 09:50:43 PM
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Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 06, 2020, 09:55:40 PM
Parts of this are a little difficult to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fLAL5CyHkg&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR1zsBaFJogLD9wVyMEC2BjGIURG3sa3HecFZyLEUTlZdOulXZ-PjK7I8zQ
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 06, 2020, 10:20:17 PM
Last I heard, this woman has already pulled in over $50K in aid contributions.  Men of BC, here's your chance to do something other than discuss the fires.



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Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 06, 2020, 10:22:35 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"Last I heard, this woman has already pulled in over $50K in aid contributions.  Men of BC, here's your chance to do something other than discuss the fires.



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Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Frood on January 07, 2020, 12:57:41 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"Where the animals left to die while humans took refuge among the stars.

I would imagine farmers tried to save their livestock..



Wild animals are a lot harder to save.....they fear humans.


They're often more docile if dehydrated and injured.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 07, 2020, 01:30:17 AM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"Where the animals left to die while humans took refuge among the stars.

I would imagine farmers tried to save their livestock..



Wild animals are a lot harder to save.....they fear humans.


They're often more docile if dehydrated and injured.

Depends on the animal. A coyote will chew it's leg off rather than be handled by people. You do not have any pesky coyotes though.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Frood on January 07, 2020, 01:34:57 AM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"Where the animals left to die while humans took refuge among the stars.

I would imagine farmers tried to save their livestock..



Wild animals are a lot harder to save.....they fear humans.


They're often more docile if dehydrated and injured.

Depends on the animal. A coyote will chew it's leg off rather than be handled by people. You do not have any pesky coyotes though.


Snakes are the worry. if they're hurt and it's hot. Look out!
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 07, 2020, 01:37:17 AM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"Where the animals left to die while humans took refuge among the stars.

I would imagine farmers tried to save their livestock..



Wild animals are a lot harder to save.....they fear humans.


They're often more docile if dehydrated and injured.

Depends on the animal. A coyote will chew it's leg off rather than be handled by people. You do not have any pesky coyotes though.


Snakes are the worry. if they're hurt and it's hot. Look out!

I avoided them in every country I was in.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Frood on January 07, 2020, 04:14:07 AM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"Where the animals left to die while humans took refuge among the stars.

I would imagine farmers tried to save their livestock..



Wild animals are a lot harder to save.....they fear humans.


They're often more docile if dehydrated and injured.

Depends on the animal. A coyote will chew it's leg off rather than be handled by people. You do not have any pesky coyotes though.


Snakes are the worry. if they're hurt and it's hot. Look out!

I avoided them in every country I was in.




That's the best way.  :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:



And don't keep your fishing nets close to where you're sitting if your remote fishing. They literally crawl over your feet for the smell of old fish.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 07, 2020, 08:49:29 AM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"Where the animals left to die while humans took refuge among the stars.

I would imagine farmers tried to save their livestock..



Wild animals are a lot harder to save.....they fear humans.


They're often more docile if dehydrated and injured.

Depends on the animal. A coyote will chew it's leg off rather than be handled by people. You do not have any pesky coyotes though.


Snakes are the worry. if they're hurt and it's hot. Look out!

I avoided them in every country I was in.




That's the best way.  :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:



And don't keep your fishing nets close to where you're sitting if your remote fishing. They literally crawl over your feet for the smell of old fish.

We have poisonous snakes in the most Southern part of the province, but they could only make an adult a little sick..



I'm glad we don't have the kind Australia has.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Frood on January 07, 2020, 09:25:32 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"Where the animals left to die while humans took refuge among the stars.

I would imagine farmers tried to save their livestock..



Wild animals are a lot harder to save.....they fear humans.


They're often more docile if dehydrated and injured.

Depends on the animal. A coyote will chew it's leg off rather than be handled by people. You do not have any pesky coyotes though.


Snakes are the worry. if they're hurt and it's hot. Look out!

I avoided them in every country I was in.








That's the best way.  :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:



And don't keep your fishing nets close to where you're sitting if your remote fishing. They literally crawl over your feet for the smell of old fish.

We have poisonous snakes in the most Southern part of the province, but they could only make an adult a little sick..



I'm glad we don't have the kind Australia has.


Even the thin little juvenile ones have enough poison to kill you here. You have to be ready mentally for one to crawl across your feet or campsite, and get back to what you were doing. They generally avoid you though. But on a really hot day it pays to fill beer cans with a little bit of long life milk and throw those cans as far away from your lounging area as possible... (they can get their heads in but not out)
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 07, 2020, 10:49:17 AM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"Where the animals left to die while humans took refuge among the stars.

I would imagine farmers tried to save their livestock..



Wild animals are a lot harder to save.....they fear humans.


They're often more docile if dehydrated and injured.

Depends on the animal. A coyote will chew it's leg off rather than be handled by people. You do not have any pesky coyotes though.


Snakes are the worry. if they're hurt and it's hot. Look out!

I avoided them in every country I was in.








That's the best way.  :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:



And don't keep your fishing nets close to where you're sitting if your remote fishing. They literally crawl over your feet for the smell of old fish.

We have poisonous snakes in the most Southern part of the province, but they could only make an adult a little sick..



I'm glad we don't have the kind Australia has.


Even the thin little juvenile ones have enough poison to kill you here. You have to be ready mentally for one to crawl across your feet or campsite, and get back to what you were doing. They generally avoid you though. But on a really hot day it pays to fill beer cans with a little bit of long life milk and throw those cans as far away from your lounging area as possible... (they can get their heads in but not out)

That right there moves Australia off of my bucket list. I often thought I'd like to take a golf and beach trip to Australia. Maybe drop in and share some single malt scotch with Bricktop. But, being on guard for snakes? I will pass.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Frood on January 07, 2020, 11:07:40 AM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"Where the animals left to die while humans took refuge among the stars.

I would imagine farmers tried to save their livestock..



Wild animals are a lot harder to save.....they fear humans.


They're often more docile if dehydrated and injured.

Depends on the animal. A coyote will chew it's leg off rather than be handled by people. You do not have any pesky coyotes though.


Snakes are the worry. if they're hurt and it's hot. Look out!

I avoided them in every country I was in.












That's the best way.  :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:



And don't keep your fishing nets close to where you're sitting if your remote fishing. They literally crawl over your feet for the smell of old fish.

We have poisonous snakes in the most Southern part of the province, but they could only make an adult a little sick..



I'm glad we don't have the kind Australia has.


Even the thin little juvenile ones have enough poison to kill you here. You have to be ready mentally for one to crawl across your feet or campsite, and get back to what you were doing. They generally avoid you though. But on a really hot day it pays to fill beer cans with a little bit of long life milk and throw those cans as far away from your lounging area as possible... (they can get their heads in but not out)

That right there moves Australia off of my bucket list. I often thought I'd like to take a golf and beach trip to Australia. Maybe drop in and share some single malt scotch with Bricktop. But, being on guard for snakes? I will pass.


The coastal regions are fine. Bricktop lives in a snake free or virtually snake free zone. I'm talking about the middle of nowhere zone where you put an AM radio on the ground not because you want to listen to it, but you want to aggravate critters to go around you. Especially if you're night fishing. The rats and bats don't like it either, so a plussie!
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 07, 2020, 11:20:14 AM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"Where the animals left to die while humans took refuge among the stars.

I would imagine farmers tried to save their livestock..



Wild animals are a lot harder to save.....they fear humans.


They're often more docile if dehydrated and injured.

Depends on the animal. A coyote will chew it's leg off rather than be handled by people. You do not have any pesky coyotes though.


Snakes are the worry. if they're hurt and it's hot. Look out!

I avoided them in every country I was in.












That's the best way.  :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:



And don't keep your fishing nets close to where you're sitting if your remote fishing. They literally crawl over your feet for the smell of old fish.

We have poisonous snakes in the most Southern part of the province, but they could only make an adult a little sick..



I'm glad we don't have the kind Australia has.


Even the thin little juvenile ones have enough poison to kill you here. You have to be ready mentally for one to crawl across your feet or campsite, and get back to what you were doing. They generally avoid you though. But on a really hot day it pays to fill beer cans with a little bit of long life milk and throw those cans as far away from your lounging area as possible... (they can get their heads in but not out)

That right there moves Australia off of my bucket list. I often thought I'd like to take a golf and beach trip to Australia. Maybe drop in and share some single malt scotch with Bricktop. But, being on guard for snakes? I will pass.


The coastal regions are fine. Bricktop lives in a snake free or virtually snake free zone. I'm talking about the middle of nowhere zone where you put an AM radio on the ground not because you want to listen to it, but you want to aggravate critters to go around you. Especially if you're night fishing. The rats and bats don't like it either, so a plussie!

Are Australia's snakes mostly in desert areas?
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on January 07, 2020, 11:24:59 AM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"Where the animals left to die while humans took refuge among the stars.

I would imagine farmers tried to save their livestock..



Wild animals are a lot harder to save.....they fear humans.


They're often more docile if dehydrated and injured.

Depends on the animal. A coyote will chew it's leg off rather than be handled by people. You do not have any pesky coyotes though.


Snakes are the worry. if they're hurt and it's hot. Look out!

I avoided them in every country I was in.








That's the best way.  :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:



And don't keep your fishing nets close to where you're sitting if your remote fishing. They literally crawl over your feet for the smell of old fish.

We have poisonous snakes in the most Southern part of the province, but they could only make an adult a little sick..



I'm glad we don't have the kind Australia has.


Even the thin little juvenile ones have enough poison to kill you here. You have to be ready mentally for one to crawl across your feet or campsite, and get back to what you were doing. They generally avoid you though. But on a really hot day it pays to fill beer cans with a little bit of long life milk and throw those cans as far away from your lounging area as possible... (they can get their heads in but not out)

That right there moves Australia off of my bucket list. I often thought I'd like to take a golf and beach trip to Australia. Maybe drop in and share some single malt scotch with Bricktop. But, being on guard for snakes? I will pass.






So bears and mountain big cats are attractions we won't run into in North America?



Australia is the safest continent on the planet. I've seen two snakes in the wild in my whole life and I've lived over half a century.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Frood on January 07, 2020, 11:36:14 AM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"Where the animals left to die while humans took refuge among the stars.

I would imagine farmers tried to save their livestock..



Wild animals are a lot harder to save.....they fear humans.


They're often more docile if dehydrated and injured.

Depends on the animal. A coyote will chew it's leg off rather than be handled by people. You do not have any pesky coyotes though.


Snakes are the worry. if they're hurt and it's hot. Look out!

I avoided them in every country I was in.












That's the best way.  :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:



And don't keep your fishing nets close to where you're sitting if your remote fishing. They literally crawl over your feet for the smell of old fish.

We have poisonous snakes in the most Southern part of the province, but they could only make an adult a little sick..



I'm glad we don't have the kind Australia has.


Even the thin little juvenile ones have enough poison to kill you here. You have to be ready mentally for one to crawl across your feet or campsite, and get back to what you were doing. They generally avoid you though. But on a really hot day it pays to fill beer cans with a little bit of long life milk and throw those cans as far away from your lounging area as possible... (they can get their heads in but not out)

That right there moves Australia off of my bucket list. I often thought I'd like to take a golf and beach trip to Australia. Maybe drop in and share some single malt scotch with Bricktop. But, being on guard for snakes? I will pass.


The coastal regions are fine. Bricktop lives in a snake free or virtually snake free zone. I'm talking about the middle of nowhere zone where you put an AM radio on the ground not because you want to listen to it, but you want to aggravate critters to go around you. Especially if you're night fishing. The rats and bats don't like it either, so a plussie!

Are Australia's snakes mostly in desert areas?


Remote regions. They hate vibrations. So well traveled roads or population centres they flee from. You'd be lucky to see a snake in the coastal regions anywhere. They are more disturbed by us than we are with them.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 07, 2020, 11:38:09 AM
Quote from: "caskur"
So bears and mountain big cats are attractions we won't run into in North America?

Not in Southern Ontario where Zetsu and I live. Out West where Mel, Fash and Shen Li live, yes. About the largest wild creatures you will see around here are raccoons and wild turkeys.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Frood on January 07, 2020, 11:38:59 AM
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"Where the animals left to die while humans took refuge among the stars.

I would imagine farmers tried to save their livestock..



Wild animals are a lot harder to save.....they fear humans.


They're often more docile if dehydrated and injured.

Depends on the animal. A coyote will chew it's leg off rather than be handled by people. You do not have any pesky coyotes though.


Snakes are the worry. if they're hurt and it's hot. Look out!

I avoided them in every country I was in.








That's the best way.  :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:



And don't keep your fishing nets close to where you're sitting if your remote fishing. They literally crawl over your feet for the smell of old fish.

We have poisonous snakes in the most Southern part of the province, but they could only make an adult a little sick..



I'm glad we don't have the kind Australia has.


Even the thin little juvenile ones have enough poison to kill you here. You have to be ready mentally for one to crawl across your feet or campsite, and get back to what you were doing. They generally avoid you though. But on a really hot day it pays to fill beer cans with a little bit of long life milk and throw those cans as far away from your lounging area as possible... (they can get their heads in but not out)

That right there moves Australia off of my bucket list. I often thought I'd like to take a golf and beach trip to Australia. Maybe drop in and share some single malt scotch with Bricktop. But, being on guard for snakes? I will pass.






So bears and mountain big cats are attractions we won't run into in North America?



Australia is the safest continent on the planet. I've seen two snakes in the wild in my whole life and I've lived over half a century.


You don't rough it in Australia very often?



Last trip I had a Kingie slide across my foot on the way to an eskie.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Frood on January 07, 2020, 11:39:25 AM
double post
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on January 07, 2020, 12:15:07 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "caskur"
So bears and mountain big cats are attractions we won't run into in North America?

Not in Southern Ontario where Zetsu and I live. Out West where Mel, Fash and Shen Li live, yes. About the largest wild creatures you will see around here are raccoons and wild turkeys.




Snakes are shy creatures... You rarely see them in cities... They're mainly on the outskirts in the bush. If you saw one on a golf course you should buy a lotto ticket because that would be a lucky meeting.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 07, 2020, 12:17:15 PM
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"Where the animals left to die while humans took refuge among the stars.

I would imagine farmers tried to save their livestock..



Wild animals are a lot harder to save.....they fear humans.


They're often more docile if dehydrated and injured.

Depends on the animal. A coyote will chew it's leg off rather than be handled by people. You do not have any pesky coyotes though.


Snakes are the worry. if they're hurt and it's hot. Look out!

I avoided them in every country I was in.








That's the best way.  :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:



And don't keep your fishing nets close to where you're sitting if your remote fishing. They literally crawl over your feet for the smell of old fish.

We have poisonous snakes in the most Southern part of the province, but they could only make an adult a little sick..



I'm glad we don't have the kind Australia has.


Even the thin little juvenile ones have enough poison to kill you here. You have to be ready mentally for one to crawl across your feet or campsite, and get back to what you were doing. They generally avoid you though. But on a really hot day it pays to fill beer cans with a little bit of long life milk and throw those cans as far away from your lounging area as possible... (they can get their heads in but not out)

That right there moves Australia off of my bucket list. I often thought I'd like to take a golf and beach trip to Australia. Maybe drop in and share some single malt scotch with Bricktop. But, being on guard for snakes? I will pass.






So bears and mountain big cats are attractions we won't run into in North America?



Australia is the safest continent on the planet. I've seen two snakes in the wild in my whole life and I've lived over half a century.

Where we go camping in the summer in SE BC you have to be aware of cougars, black bears, grizzlies, aggressive bull moose and even coyotes and lynx if you bring your dog or cat with you....such an easy meal for both of them.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on January 07, 2020, 12:25:03 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"Where the animals left to die while humans took refuge among the stars.

I would imagine farmers tried to save their livestock..



Wild animals are a lot harder to save.....they fear humans.


They're often more docile if dehydrated and injured.

Depends on the animal. A coyote will chew it's leg off rather than be handled by people. You do not have any pesky coyotes though.


Snakes are the worry. if they're hurt and it's hot. Look out!

I avoided them in every country I was in.








That's the best way.  :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:



And don't keep your fishing nets close to where you're sitting if your remote fishing. They literally crawl over your feet for the smell of old fish.

We have poisonous snakes in the most Southern part of the province, but they could only make an adult a little sick..



I'm glad we don't have the kind Australia has.


Even the thin little juvenile ones have enough poison to kill you here. You have to be ready mentally for one to crawl across your feet or campsite, and get back to what you were doing. They generally avoid you though. But on a really hot day it pays to fill beer cans with a little bit of long life milk and throw those cans as far away from your lounging area as possible... (they can get their heads in but not out)

That right there moves Australia off of my bucket list. I often thought I'd like to take a golf and beach trip to Australia. Maybe drop in and share some single malt scotch with Bricktop. But, being on guard for snakes? I will pass.






So bears and mountain big cats are attractions we won't run into in North America?



Australia is the safest continent on the planet. I've seen two snakes in the wild in my whole life and I've lived over half a century.

Where we go camping in the summer in SE BC you have to be aware of cougars, black bears, grizzlies, aggressive bull moose and even coyotes and lynx if you bring your dog or cat with you....such an easy meal for both of them.


I think maybe TV shows about Australia may have put some off especially about snakes but I think the programs are just taking the Micky out of viewers. You never see snakes and we certainly have no man eating animals except in Zoos.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Frood on January 07, 2020, 12:46:42 PM
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Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"Where the animals left to die while humans took refuge among the stars.

I would imagine farmers tried to save their livestock..



Wild animals are a lot harder to save.....they fear humans.


They're often more docile if dehydrated and injured.

Depends on the animal. A coyote will chew it's leg off rather than be handled by people. You do not have any pesky coyotes though.


Snakes are the worry. if they're hurt and it's hot. Look out!

I avoided them in every country I was in.








That's the best way.  :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:



And don't keep your fishing nets close to where you're sitting if your remote fishing. They literally crawl over your feet for the smell of old fish.

We have poisonous snakes in the most Southern part of the province, but they could only make an adult a little sick..



I'm glad we don't have the kind Australia has.


Even the thin little juvenile ones have enough poison to kill you here. You have to be ready mentally for one to crawl across your feet or campsite, and get back to what you were doing. They generally avoid you though. But on a really hot day it pays to fill beer cans with a little bit of long life milk and throw those cans as far away from your lounging area as possible... (they can get their heads in but not out)

That right there moves Australia off of my bucket list. I often thought I'd like to take a golf and beach trip to Australia. Maybe drop in and share some single malt scotch with Bricktop. But, being on guard for snakes? I will pass.






So bears and mountain big cats are attractions we won't run into in North America?



Australia is the safest continent on the planet. I've seen two snakes in the wild in my whole life and I've lived over half a century.

Where we go camping in the summer in SE BC you have to be aware of cougars, black bears, grizzlies, aggressive bull moose and even coyotes and lynx if you bring your dog or cat with you....such an easy meal for both of them.


I think maybe TV shows about Australia may have put some off especially about snakes but I think the programs are just taking the Micky out of viewers. You never see snakes and we certainly have no man eating animals except in Zoos.


Depends on how bush you go.



If you drive 2 hours away from any humans, expect to get confronted at least once on your camping trip. If you go to a caravan park, expect to to be confronted by feral humans (animals).
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on January 07, 2020, 01:05:23 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"


Depends on how bush you go.



If you drive 2 hours away from any humans, expect to get confronted at least once on your camping trip. If you go to a caravan park, expect to to be confronted by feral humans (animals).


Bibra Lake is 5 minutes from me... a few years back I took a picture of a Tiger Snake sunning at Bibra Lake....



Here...One of the most deadliest snakes on the planet.



VVVV



https://www.facebook.com/1664713407110872/photos/a.1665863003662579/1665863020329244/?type=3&theater
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on January 07, 2020, 01:09:17 PM
And I was 55 there...^^^



the other I saw, I was 10 years old on the coast at my grandparents crayfishing camp, 4.5 hours north of me.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Frood on January 07, 2020, 01:22:50 PM
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"


Depends on how bush you go.



If you drive 2 hours away from any humans, expect to get confronted at least once on your camping trip. If you go to a caravan park, expect to to be confronted by feral humans (animals).


Bibra Lake is 5 minutes from me... a few years back I took a picture of a Tiger Snake sunning at Bibra Lake....



Here...One of the most deadliest snakes on the planet.



VVVV



https://www.facebook.com/1664713407110872/photos/a.1665863003662579/1665863020329244/?type=3&theater


Along a lake near a nature path, I guarantee there are 10 more for every 1 you see.



You don't get out bush much, do you?



You should do it. It's spiritual.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 07, 2020, 02:27:50 PM
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"


Depends on how bush you go.



If you drive 2 hours away from any humans, expect to get confronted at least once on your camping trip. If you go to a caravan park, expect to to be confronted by feral humans (animals).


Bibra Lake is 5 minutes from me... a few years back I took a picture of a Tiger Snake sunning at Bibra Lake....



Here...One of the most deadliest snakes on the planet.



VVVV



https://www.facebook.com/1664713407110872/photos/a.1665863003662579/1665863020329244/?type=3&theater

You're braver than I am.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 07, 2020, 07:01:33 PM
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"


Depends on how bush you go.



If you drive 2 hours away from any humans, expect to get confronted at least once on your camping trip. If you go to a caravan park, expect to to be confronted by feral humans (animals).


Bibra Lake is 5 minutes from me... a few years back I took a picture of a Tiger Snake sunning at Bibra Lake....



Here...One of the most deadliest snakes on the planet.



VVVV



https://www.facebook.com/1664713407110872/photos/a.1665863003662579/1665863020329244/?type=3&theater

I thought Australia's most venomous snake was something else.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 07, 2020, 08:22:48 PM
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Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 07, 2020, 09:02:26 PM
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Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 08, 2020, 12:16:26 AM
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "caskur"
So bears and mountain big cats are attractions we won't run into in North America?

Not in Southern Ontario where Zetsu and I live. Out West where Mel, Fash and Shen Li live, yes. About the largest wild creatures you will see around here are raccoons and wild turkeys.




Snakes are shy creatures... You rarely see them in cities... They're mainly on the outskirts in the bush. If you saw one on a golf course you should buy a lotto ticket because that would be a lucky meeting.

I am a city boy. I don't know how to react to dangerous wild animals.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on January 08, 2020, 01:37:31 AM
I'm not scared of snakes... they shy away from people although that Tiger Snake up there has been known to chase people. But that is only a rumour I've heard.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Frood on January 08, 2020, 01:42:07 AM
Tigers and browns can chase on a really hot day...
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on January 08, 2020, 02:33:30 AM
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"Tigers and browns can chase on a really hot day...


I already said Tigers snakes are rumoured to chase people. I call bullshit until I see it with my own eyes. .
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 08, 2020, 02:38:10 AM
The inland taipan snake is the most venomous snake in Australia and the world. I looked it up.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Frood on January 08, 2020, 02:50:24 AM
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"Tigers and browns can chase on a really hot day...


I already said Tigers snakes are rumoured to chase people. I call bullshit until I see it with my own eyes. .


I repeated what you said and added an "and browns" addition.... don't be a nag, scrag....



And they occasionally do chase.... whether you experience it or not...
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Frood on January 08, 2020, 02:51:21 AM
Quote from: "seoulbro"The inland taipan snake is the most venomous snake in Australia and the world. I looked it up.


Yeah, taipans don't mess about...
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on January 08, 2020, 05:43:12 AM
Quote from: "seoulbro"The inland taipan snake is the most venomous snake in Australia and the world. I looked it up.


Australia has 9 out of the 10 most deadly snakes on the planet...



And guess what?



No one sees them.



You'll be safe on the Australian continent... trust me on this one.... Now, if you said you would be worried about flies carrying you off, then I'd say.. Sure!
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 08, 2020, 08:37:23 AM
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "seoulbro"The inland taipan snake is the most venomous snake in Australia and the world. I looked it up.


Australia has 9 out of the 10 most deadly snakes on the planet...



And guess what?



No one sees them.



You'll be safe on the Australian continent... trust me on this one.... Now, if you said you would be worried about flies carrying you off, then I'd say.. Sure!

They don't appear in back yards?
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on January 08, 2020, 10:14:58 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "seoulbro"The inland taipan snake is the most venomous snake in Australia and the world. I looked it up.


Australia has 9 out of the 10 most deadly snakes on the planet...



And guess what?



No one sees them.



You'll be safe on the Australian continent... trust me on this one.... Now, if you said you would be worried about flies carrying you off, then I'd say.. Sure!

They don't appear in back yards?


If people live near Crown Land I would imagine they'd show up from time to time.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 08, 2020, 11:17:38 AM
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "seoulbro"The inland taipan snake is the most venomous snake in Australia and the world. I looked it up.


Australia has 9 out of the 10 most deadly snakes on the planet...



And guess what?



No one sees them.



You'll be safe on the Australian continent... trust me on this one.... Now, if you said you would be worried about flies carrying you off, then I'd say.. Sure!

They don't appear in back yards?


If people live near Crown Land I would imagine they'd show up from time to time.

In my city, occasionally moose, elk, black bears, bobcats, and lynx appear in yards..



About six years ago a 150 lb mountain lion was tranquilized in the city limits..



Not to mention all the urban coyotes..



What I mean is that wild animals have adapted to human encroachment.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on January 08, 2020, 11:30:20 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "seoulbro"The inland taipan snake is the most venomous snake in Australia and the world. I looked it up.


Australia has 9 out of the 10 most deadly snakes on the planet...



And guess what?



No one sees them.



You'll be safe on the Australian continent... trust me on this one.... Now, if you said you would be worried about flies carrying you off, then I'd say.. Sure!

They don't appear in back yards?


If people live near Crown Land I would imagine they'd show up from time to time.

In my city, occasionally moose, elk, black bears, bobcats, and lynx appear in yards..



About six years ago a 150 mountain lion was tranquilized in the city limits..



Not to mention all the urban coyotes..



What I mean is that wild animals have adapted to human encroachment.


I guess hunger in the wild drives them to seek food in the suburbs.



I saw a woman in the USA have a cougar come shelter in her house a few years back. Did you hear that story in your news?
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 08, 2020, 11:32:19 AM
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "seoulbro"The inland taipan snake is the most venomous snake in Australia and the world. I looked it up.


Australia has 9 out of the 10 most deadly snakes on the planet...



And guess what?



No one sees them.



You'll be safe on the Australian continent... trust me on this one.... Now, if you said you would be worried about flies carrying you off, then I'd say.. Sure!

They don't appear in back yards?


If people live near Crown Land I would imagine they'd show up from time to time.

In my city, occasionally moose, elk, black bears, bobcats, and lynx appear in yards..



About six years ago a 150 mountain lion was tranquilized in the city limits..



Not to mention all the urban coyotes..



What I mean is that wild animals have adapted to human encroachment.


I guess hunger in the wild drives them seek food it the suburbs.



I saw a woman in the USA have a cougar come shelter in her house a few years back. Did you hear that story in your news?

No, but cougar's have a taste for dog flesh..



There have been many cases of domestic dogs being killed and eaten by cougars in small towns in British Columbia.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on January 08, 2020, 11:34:27 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
No, but cougar's have a taste for dog flesh..



There have been many cases of domestic dogs being killed and eaten by cougars in small towns in British Columbia.


Very upsetting for owners.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Frood on January 08, 2020, 01:49:47 PM
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "seoulbro"The inland taipan snake is the most venomous snake in Australia and the world. I looked it up.


Australia has 9 out of the 10 most deadly snakes on the planet...



And guess what?



No one sees them.



You'll be safe on the Australian continent... trust me on this one.... Now, if you said you would be worried about flies carrying you off, then I'd say.. Sure!


I mostly see red bellied blacks on my property or in the area....
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Vancouver on January 08, 2020, 07:19:04 PM
My condolence for the koala Bears and kangaroos. Many have died. We have a kangaroo farm here in a nearby city.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 08, 2020, 08:29:04 PM
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"My condolence for the koala Bears and kangaroos. Many have died. We have a kangaroo farm here in a nearby city.

There is?



Are they raised for meat?
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Vancouver on January 08, 2020, 08:47:37 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"My condolence for the koala Bears and kangaroos. Many have died. We have a kangaroo farm here in a nearby city.

There is?



Are they raised for meat?

Not sure. I don't think so. The Kangaroo Creek Farm is in Kelowna BC. Might drive out there this June.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 08, 2020, 08:53:35 PM
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"My condolence for the koala Bears and kangaroos. Many have died. We have a kangaroo farm here in a nearby city.

There is?



Are they raised for meat?

Not sure. I don't think so. The Kangaroo Creek Farm is in Kelowna BC. Might drive out there this June.

There is an exotic meat store that I know that sells farm raised kangaroo meat..



I wonder where they buy it from?

  ac_umm
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Vancouver on January 08, 2020, 08:55:59 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"My condolence for the koala Bears and kangaroos. Many have died. We have a kangaroo farm here in a nearby city.

There is?



Are they raised for meat?

Not sure. I don't think so. The Kangaroo Creek Farm is in Kelowna BC. Might drive out there this June.

There is an exotic meat store that I know that sells farm raised kangaroo meat..



I wonder where they buy it from?

  ac_umm


Here is what Kangaroo Creek Farm has to say about Kangaroo meat.



"We've been asked quite a few times lately if we sell kangaroo meat.  NO.  Absolutely NOT.  All the kangaroo meat that is on the market is from wild culled sources in Australia.  Australia culls millions of kangaroos every year.  Most of the meat goes into  dog and cat food but some choice cuts are packaged for human consumption and exported to about 50 different countries, Canada included.  It is possible to buy Australian origin kangaroo meat in Kelowna.  It's touted as being of a higher nutritional quality than beef or chicken but I still don't fancy it.  Sentiment aside, eating a North American kangaroo would be a very expensive proposition since buying live kangaroos from Australia is not possible and hasn't been since the 1960's.  Therefore, the kangaroos that are here in North America are very valuable animals. So worry not, your favorite kangaroo is not going to get eaten!"
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Frood on January 08, 2020, 08:58:19 PM
Roo is very lean... and an acquired taste... most Australians don't eat it...
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 08, 2020, 09:04:10 PM
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"My condolence for the koala Bears and kangaroos. Many have died. We have a kangaroo farm here in a nearby city.

There is?



Are they raised for meat?

Not sure. I don't think so. The Kangaroo Creek Farm is in Kelowna BC. Might drive out there this June.

There is an exotic meat store that I know that sells farm raised kangaroo meat..



I wonder where they buy it from?

  ac_umm


Here is what Kangaroo Creek Farm has to say about Kangaroo meat.



"We've been asked quite a few times lately if we sell kangaroo meat.  NO.  Absolutely NOT.  All the kangaroo meat that is on the market is from wild culled sources in Australia.  Australia culls millions of kangaroos every year.  Most of the meat goes into  dog and cat food but some choice cuts are packaged for human consumption and exported to about 50 different countries, Canada included.  It is possible to buy Australian origin kangaroo meat in Kelowna.  It's touted as being of a higher nutritional quality than beef or chicken but I still don't fancy it.  Sentiment aside, eating a North American kangaroo would be a very expensive proposition since buying live kangaroos from Australia is not possible and hasn't been since the 1960's.  Therefore, the kangaroos that are here in North America are very valuable animals. So worry not, your favorite kangaroo is not going to get eaten!"

Okay, thank you TVG..



What do they raise kangaroos for?
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Vancouver on January 08, 2020, 09:07:12 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"My condolence for the koala Bears and kangaroos. Many have died. We have a kangaroo farm here in a nearby city.

There is?



Are they raised for meat?

Not sure. I don't think so. The Kangaroo Creek Farm is in Kelowna BC. Might drive out there this June.

There is an exotic meat store that I know that sells farm raised kangaroo meat..



I wonder where they buy it from?

  ac_umm


Here is what Kangaroo Creek Farm has to say about Kangaroo meat.



"We've been asked quite a few times lately if we sell kangaroo meat.  NO.  Absolutely NOT.  All the kangaroo meat that is on the market is from wild culled sources in Australia.  Australia culls millions of kangaroos every year.  Most of the meat goes into  dog and cat food but some choice cuts are packaged for human consumption and exported to about 50 different countries, Canada included.  It is possible to buy Australian origin kangaroo meat in Kelowna.  It's touted as being of a higher nutritional quality than beef or chicken but I still don't fancy it.  Sentiment aside, eating a North American kangaroo would be a very expensive proposition since buying live kangaroos from Australia is not possible and hasn't been since the 1960's.  Therefore, the kangaroos that are here in North America are very valuable animals. So worry not, your favorite kangaroo is not going to get eaten!"

Okay, thank you TVG..



What do they raise kangaroos for?
You know, making buck loads from tourists.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Thiel on January 08, 2020, 09:10:37 PM
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"My condolence for the koala Bears and kangaroos. Many have died. We have a kangaroo farm here in a nearby city.

There is?



Are they raised for meat?

Not sure. I don't think so. The Kangaroo Creek Farm is in Kelowna BC. Might drive out there this June.

There is an exotic meat store that I know that sells farm raised kangaroo meat..



I wonder where they buy it from?

  ac_umm


Here is what Kangaroo Creek Farm has to say about Kangaroo meat.



"We've been asked quite a few times lately if we sell kangaroo meat.  NO.  Absolutely NOT.  All the kangaroo meat that is on the market is from wild culled sources in Australia.  Australia culls millions of kangaroos every year.  Most of the meat goes into  dog and cat food but some choice cuts are packaged for human consumption and exported to about 50 different countries, Canada included.  It is possible to buy Australian origin kangaroo meat in Kelowna.  It's touted as being of a higher nutritional quality than beef or chicken but I still don't fancy it.  Sentiment aside, eating a North American kangaroo would be a very expensive proposition since buying live kangaroos from Australia is not possible and hasn't been since the 1960's.  Therefore, the kangaroos that are here in North America are very valuable animals. So worry not, your favorite kangaroo is not going to get eaten!"

Okay, thank you TVG..



What do they raise kangaroos for?
You know, making buck loads from tourists.

That would barely cover their costs.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 09, 2020, 09:04:22 AM
Quote from: "Thiel"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"My condolence for the koala Bears and kangaroos. Many have died. We have a kangaroo farm here in a nearby city.

There is?



Are they raised for meat?

Not sure. I don't think so. The Kangaroo Creek Farm is in Kelowna BC. Might drive out there this June.

There is an exotic meat store that I know that sells farm raised kangaroo meat..



I wonder where they buy it from?

  ac_umm


Here is what Kangaroo Creek Farm has to say about Kangaroo meat.



"We've been asked quite a few times lately if we sell kangaroo meat.  NO.  Absolutely NOT.  All the kangaroo meat that is on the market is from wild culled sources in Australia.  Australia culls millions of kangaroos every year.  Most of the meat goes into  dog and cat food but some choice cuts are packaged for human consumption and exported to about 50 different countries, Canada included.  It is possible to buy Australian origin kangaroo meat in Kelowna.  It's touted as being of a higher nutritional quality than beef or chicken but I still don't fancy it.  Sentiment aside, eating a North American kangaroo would be a very expensive proposition since buying live kangaroos from Australia is not possible and hasn't been since the 1960's.  Therefore, the kangaroos that are here in North America are very valuable animals. So worry not, your favorite kangaroo is not going to get eaten!"

Okay, thank you TVG..



What do they raise kangaroos for?
You know, making buck loads from tourists.

That would barely cover their costs.

Zoos don't usually survive off of charging visitor's alone.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 09, 2020, 08:35:11 PM
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Forgotten history: 50 degrees everywhere, right across Australia in the 1800s

Don't believe your lying eyes — Australian newspaper archives are full of temperatures recorded higher than 121 in the shade which is 50C.  All of these temperatures in the map below are found in historic newspaper archives. Measurements done after 1910 are even done with official Stevenson screens, yet the BOM "throws them away". It's true that ones done in the 1800s are often recorded on non-standard equipment, or are just literally "in the shade" under cover. So some of these, perhaps many, are one or two degrees too high. But even if we take two degrees off, how scary is global warming when Australia knew many days of 48C and 49C and some at 50C 120 years ago? The BOM — supposedly so concerned about the State of Our Climate — show little interest in talking about our history or in analyzing it, or even mentioning it.



And modern temperatures are recorded on electronic equipment, sometimes in areas affected by urban heat islands (concrete and cars).

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Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on January 09, 2020, 11:33:35 PM
Those temps are diabolical.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 09, 2020, 11:52:22 PM
Quote from: "caskur"Those temps are diabolical.

Taiwan is very humid in the summer..



But, I couldn't imagine what fifty degrees must feel like.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Frood on January 09, 2020, 11:56:00 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "caskur"Those temps are diabolical.

Taiwan is very humid in the summer..



But, I couldn't imagine what fifty degrees must feel like.


Not much different than 45c....
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 10, 2020, 12:19:14 AM
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "caskur"Those temps are diabolical.

Taiwan is very humid in the summer..



But, I couldn't imagine what fifty degrees must feel like.


Not much different than 45c....

Taiwan doesn't get forty five degrees either..



Maybe thirty eight in the Southern part of the country.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 11, 2020, 03:19:02 PM
I was watching a massive climate protest in Sydney. It was on the CBC, so they put their spin on it. According to the CBC, Australia's fires will continue to get worse because of Australia's rounding error contribution to C02 emissions. We pay $1.2 billion per year for that propaganda machine.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: @realAzhyaAryola on January 12, 2020, 12:47:14 PM
Bricktop set Australia on fire. The bastard.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 12, 2020, 12:51:01 PM
Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"Bricktop set Australia on fire. The bastard.

His wife told him not to play with lighters.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 13, 2020, 06:59:00 PM
Aussie PM wants bushfire inquiry



MELBOURNE — after weeks of criticism over the handling of the bushfires scorching australia, Prime Minister Scott Morrison said on Sunday he will propose a national review into the response to the disaster, as the fires claimed another firefighter's life.



The australian bush has been burning for nearly three months and the fires have killed 28 people, claimed 2,000 homes and consumed millions of acres of land and wildlife. The crisis is becoming increasingly political as the country looks at the causes and the government's response.



"There is obviously a need for a national review of the response," Morrison said in an interview with ABC television.



asked whether it should be a royal Commission, a powerful judicial inquiry, Morrison said, "I think that is what would be necessary and I will be taking a proposal through the cabinet to that end, but it must be done with consultations with the states and territories."



Morrison said that the inquiry would examine the response to the crisis, including the deployment of emergency services to battle the fires at a state and local level, the role of the federal government, and the impact of climate change.

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A wallaby enjoys a snack after NSW'S National Parks and Wildlife Service air-dropped carrots to the starving animals on Saturday.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 13, 2020, 08:47:30 PM
Climate change is thrown in there just to appease the progs. The fires were started by arsonists, and I believe at least some were alarmists. Alarmists are the reason there is so much fuel on the ground and why there's no cleared paths to get around fires. They should be looking at the impact of prog alarmists. Better yet, they should jail every elected Green in the country.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 14, 2020, 08:48:47 AM
Quote from: "seoulbro"Aussie PM wants bushfire inquiry



MELBOURNE — after weeks of criticism over the handling of the bushfires scorching australia, Prime Minister Scott Morrison said on Sunday he will propose a national review into the response to the disaster, as the fires claimed another firefighter's life.



The australian bush has been burning for nearly three months and the fires have killed 28 people, claimed 2,000 homes and consumed millions of acres of land and wildlife. The crisis is becoming increasingly political as the country looks at the causes and the government's response.



"There is obviously a need for a national review of the response," Morrison said in an interview with ABC television.



asked whether it should be a royal Commission, a powerful judicial inquiry, Morrison said, "I think that is what would be necessary and I will be taking a proposal through the cabinet to that end, but it must be done with consultations with the states and territories."



Morrison said that the inquiry would examine the response to the crisis, including the deployment of emergency services to battle the fires at a state and local level, the role of the federal government, and the impact of climate change.

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A wallaby enjoys a snack after NSW'S National Parks and Wildlife Service air-dropped carrots to the starving animals on Saturday.

They look like giant carrots or a tiny wallaby.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 14, 2020, 12:18:16 PM
Australia's koala population has taken such an extraordinary hit from the wildfires sweeping the country that the marsupial could be classified as endangered in some areas. I read NSW has lost thirty per cent of it's koala population.

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Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Vancouver on January 14, 2020, 11:16:12 PM
https://youtu.be/WXh4TACoQNY
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 14, 2020, 11:54:02 PM
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"https://youtu.be/WXh4TACoQNY

I saw that video....it's heartbreaking.

 ac_crying
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 15, 2020, 12:02:47 AM
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"https://youtu.be/WXh4TACoQNY

Thar has to include livestock.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Frood on January 15, 2020, 02:10:48 AM
We're getting hammered by thunderstorms at the moment... up to 50 mm in 30 minutes, 110 kph wind gusts, and flash flooding...



I expect the power to cut out soon. Generator and agm's are primed and ready...
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 15, 2020, 08:54:57 AM
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"We're getting hammered by thunderstorms at the moment... up to 50 mm in 30 minutes, 110 kph wind gusts, and flash flooding...



I expect the power to cut out soon. Generator and agm's are primed and ready...

That'll help the bushfires.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Frood on January 15, 2020, 09:51:26 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"We're getting hammered by thunderstorms at the moment... up to 50 mm in 30 minutes, 110 kph wind gusts, and flash flooding...



I expect the power to cut out soon. Generator and agm's are primed and ready...

That'll help the bushfires.


Helps and hurts... mushy ground makes it harder to gain access sometimes...
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 16, 2020, 12:03:55 AM
Finally, some common sense.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7860635/Australian-bushfire-crisis-183-people-arrested-24-charged-starting-fires.html?fbclid=IwAR2d-I-kxZKmBtzZPLZYOcPAMsfJOYwtc248BUB5CorgJ-tDoJ4d9AcW9EU

Arson is not caused by climate change': Row breaks out over real cause of Australia's bushfires after it emerges more than 180 people have been arrested over blazes in the past year
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Vancouver on January 17, 2020, 09:21:58 PM
I learned that Koala Bears get most of their water from gum leaves.



"It can be dangerous to give koalas water poured into their mouth as they are not usually used to drinking, and a volume such as 10-20 [ml] can be 'aspirated', which means the water goes into the lungs instead of the oesophagus," a RSPCA South Australia spokesperson told 7NEWS.com.au in an interview.



"An animal can die from aspirating fluid."



Experts say the best way to help a dehydrated koala is to offer them water in a bowl or your hands, so they can gently lap up water. You can also use a small syringe to evenly and slowly put water into the koala's mouth.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 17, 2020, 09:26:07 PM
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"I learned that Koala Bears get most of their water from gum leaves.



"It can be dangerous to give koalas water poured into their mouth as they are not usually used to drinking, and a volume such as 10-20 [ml] can be 'aspirated', which means the water goes into the lungs instead of the oesophagus," a RSPCA South Australia spokesperson told 7NEWS.com.au in an interview.



"An animal can die from aspirating fluid."



Experts say the best way to help a dehydrated koala is to offer them water in a bowl or your hands, so they can gently lap up water. You can also use a small syringe to evenly and slowly put water into the koala's mouth.

If they are dying of dehydration anyway, what does it matter.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Vancouver on January 17, 2020, 09:35:59 PM
Quote from: "Herman"
If they are dying of dehydration anyway, what does it matter.
They just need to drink slow. Like 10mins to finish half a glass of water.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 17, 2020, 09:38:26 PM
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"
Quote from: "Herman"
If they are dying of dehydration anyway, what does it matter.
They just need to drink slow. Like 10mins to finish half a glass of water.

If you can get them to drink slow.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on January 17, 2020, 09:50:31 PM
Quote from: "Herman"Finally, some common sense.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7860635/Australian-bushfire-crisis-183-people-arrested-24-charged-starting-fires.html?fbclid=IwAR2d-I-kxZKmBtzZPLZYOcPAMsfJOYwtc248BUB5CorgJ-tDoJ4d9AcW9EU

Arson is not caused by climate change': Row breaks out over real cause of Australia's bushfires after it emerges more than 180 people have been arrested over blazes in the past year


And firemen backburn meaning the fucking fire brigade start the fires too
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 17, 2020, 10:37:49 PM
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"
Quote from: "Herman"
If they are dying of dehydration anyway, what does it matter.
They just need to drink slow. Like 10mins to finish half a glass of water.

Leave water out for them in a plastic dish or anything that can hold water.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on January 20, 2020, 09:45:19 AM
They had heavy rain in much of Eastern Australia where most of the worst fires are.

 :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on February 16, 2020, 10:20:44 PM
I just watched a story on Sixty Minutes about the wildfires in Australia. Totally one sided, blaming Morrison's climate policies instead of the greenie politicians who created the perfect conditions for the bushfires. Even had an interview with former pm Turnbull blaming the current government's "lack of climate leadership."
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Frood on February 16, 2020, 10:32:42 PM
Quote from: "Herman"I just watched a story on Sixty Minutes about the wildfires in Australia. Totally one sided, blaming Morrison's climate policies instead of the greenie politicians who created the perfect conditions for the bushfires. Even had an interview with former pm Turnbull blaming the current government's "lack of climate leadership."


It's the in thing... greenie bullshit...
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on February 16, 2020, 10:39:55 PM
Quote from: "Herman"I just watched a story on Sixty Minutes about the wildfires in Australia. Totally one sided, blaming Morrison's climate policies instead of the greenie politicians who created the perfect conditions for the bushfires. Even had an interview with former pm Turnbull blaming the current government's "lack of climate leadership."

Certain groups and political parties blamed the Fort McMurray wildfires on Alberta's climate policies..



We know the fires were caused by human activity.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Thiel on February 16, 2020, 11:05:52 PM
Quote from: "Herman"I just watched a story on Sixty Minutes about the wildfires in Australia. Totally one sided, blaming Morrison's climate policies instead of the greenie politicians who created the perfect conditions for the bushfires. Even had an interview with former pm Turnbull blaming the current government's "lack of climate leadership."

There is nothing Australia can do stop the earth's climate from changing. If Mr Turnbull is saying otherwise, he is lying.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Frood on February 16, 2020, 11:22:17 PM
Quote from: "Thiel"
Quote from: "Herman"I just watched a story on Sixty Minutes about the wildfires in Australia. Totally one sided, blaming Morrison's climate policies instead of the greenie politicians who created the perfect conditions for the bushfires. Even had an interview with former pm Turnbull blaming the current government's "lack of climate leadership."

There is nothing Australia can do stop the earth's climate from changing. If Mr Turnbull is saying otherwise, he is lying.


But it's so fashionable!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on February 16, 2020, 11:58:37 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Thiel"
Quote from: "Herman"I just watched a story on Sixty Minutes about the wildfires in Australia. Totally one sided, blaming Morrison's climate policies instead of the greenie politicians who created the perfect conditions for the bushfires. Even had an interview with former pm Turnbull blaming the current government's "lack of climate leadership."

There is nothing Australia can do stop the earth's climate from changing. If Mr Turnbull is saying otherwise, he is lying.


But it's so fashionable!  :laugh:

Don't all fashion trends eventually come to an end. When will this end.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Thiel on February 17, 2020, 12:04:32 AM
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Thiel"
Quote from: "Herman"I just watched a story on Sixty Minutes about the wildfires in Australia. Totally one sided, blaming Morrison's climate policies instead of the greenie politicians who created the perfect conditions for the bushfires. Even had an interview with former pm Turnbull blaming the current government's "lack of climate leadership."

There is nothing Australia can do stop the earth's climate from changing. If Mr Turnbull is saying otherwise, he is lying.


But it's so fashionable!  :laugh:

When will this end.

When they have all our money.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Frood on February 17, 2020, 12:07:46 AM
Quote from: "Thiel"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Thiel"
Quote from: "Herman"I just watched a story on Sixty Minutes about the wildfires in Australia. Totally one sided, blaming Morrison's climate policies instead of the greenie politicians who created the perfect conditions for the bushfires. Even had an interview with former pm Turnbull blaming the current government's "lack of climate leadership."

There is nothing Australia can do stop the earth's climate from changing. If Mr Turnbull is saying otherwise, he is lying.


But it's so fashionable!  :laugh:

When will this end.

When they have all our money.


Yup...



Slavery never stopped... it just got cosmestic surgery...
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on February 17, 2020, 12:13:31 AM
Quote from: "Thiel"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Thiel"
Quote from: "Herman"I just watched a story on Sixty Minutes about the wildfires in Australia. Totally one sided, blaming Morrison's climate policies instead of the greenie politicians who created the perfect conditions for the bushfires. Even had an interview with former pm Turnbull blaming the current government's "lack of climate leadership."

There is nothing Australia can do stop the earth's climate from changing. If Mr Turnbull is saying otherwise, he is lying.


But it's so fashionable!  :laugh:

When will this end.

When they have all our money.

I was going to post a laughing smiley, but there is nothing funny about that.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on February 17, 2020, 02:15:43 AM
Quote from: "Thiel"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "Thiel"
Quote from: "Herman"I just watched a story on Sixty Minutes about the wildfires in Australia. Totally one sided, blaming Morrison's climate policies instead of the greenie politicians who created the perfect conditions for the bushfires. Even had an interview with former pm Turnbull blaming the current government's "lack of climate leadership."

There is nothing Australia can do stop the earth's climate from changing. If Mr Turnbull is saying otherwise, he is lying.


But it's so fashionable!  :laugh:

When will this end.

When they have all our money.


Money is nothing..



they want our land.



Land is the real prize.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on February 17, 2020, 11:40:48 AM
our culture of vegetation worship militates against purposefully burning things down. In California, these "prescribed" fires are now largely prohibited (because burning releases dreaded carbon dioxide), ensuring that disaster is always just around the corner. Ditto for Australia, where some burning is allowed but nowhere near enough.



Range managers, as well as the native inhabitants, have long known that unless we burn it on purpose before the vegetation overgrows, it will burn us, our homes, and, tragically, our towns. You can see this in the terrifying video of a family's escape from the 2018 Camp Fire in California, where the tremendous amount of fuel lying on the ground is painfully obvious.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/australian-wildfires-were-caused-by-humans-not-climate-change



Greens ensured the perfect conditions for bush fires.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on February 17, 2020, 12:50:14 PM
People shouldn't be living so close to native forests for starters.



The so called fuel on the ground is where native insects live and native lizards and is just as important as anywhere else.



It's mainly farms that start fires and THAT threatens the bush.



I'm personally not interested in mankind turning the whole planet into one giant farm. It's disgusting.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on February 17, 2020, 12:54:16 PM
Quote from: "caskur"People shouldn't be living so close to native forests for starters.



The so called fuel on the ground is where native insects live and native lizards and is just as important as anywhere else.



It's mainly farms that start fires and THAT threatens the bush.



I'm personally not interested in mankind turning the whole planet into one giant farm. It's disgusting.

People can live next to forests. Forest fires will always happen. But, not following fire prevention methods natives practiced for centuries has proven to be a costly mistake.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Frood on February 17, 2020, 06:19:48 PM
Quote from: "caskur"People shouldn't be living so close to native forests for starters.



The so called fuel on the ground is where native insects live and native lizards and is just as important as anywhere else.



It's mainly farms that start fires and THAT threatens the bush.



I'm personally not interested in mankind turning the whole planet into one giant farm. It's disgusting.


 :001_rolleyes:



You're too stupid for words...
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on February 17, 2020, 06:22:14 PM
Quote from: "seoulbro"our culture of vegetation worship militates against purposefully burning things down. In California, these "prescribed" fires are now largely prohibited (because burning releases dreaded carbon dioxide), ensuring that disaster is always just around the corner. Ditto for Australia, where some burning is allowed but nowhere near enough.



Range managers, as well as the native inhabitants, have long known that unless we burn it on purpose before the vegetation overgrows, it will burn us, our homes, and, tragically, our towns. You can see this in the terrifying video of a family's escape from the 2018 Camp Fire in California, where the tremendous amount of fuel lying on the ground is painfully obvious.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/australian-wildfires-were-caused-by-humans-not-climate-change



Greens ensured the perfect conditions for bush fires.

I read California and Australia's fires would not have been so intense if they allowed annual controlled burns.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on February 18, 2020, 03:54:17 AM
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "caskur"People shouldn't be living so close to native forests for starters.



The so called fuel on the ground is where native insects live and native lizards and is just as important as anywhere else.



It's mainly farms that start fires and THAT threatens the bush.



I'm personally not interested in mankind turning the whole planet into one giant farm. It's disgusting.

People can live next to forests. Forest fires will always happen. But, not following fire prevention methods natives practiced for centuries has proven to be a costly mistake.


When natives practiced burn offs (more likely accidental lightning strikes) there was 100% forest coverage... shitty farmers and shitty forestry have already taken 80% of Australia's forests.... Now I need for you to compute that.... 80 freaking %.... that means the remaining 20% needs to be preserved at ALL COSTS. Australia has already gotten the bad reputation of making extinct more birds and animals than any other continent on earth.



All those people who think they know what they are talking about need to pack their bags and go back to Europe or any other place they hailed from. Australia is not for them.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on February 18, 2020, 03:57:33 AM
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza"
Quote from: "caskur"People shouldn't be living so close to native forests for starters.



The so called fuel on the ground is where native insects live and native lizards and is just as important as anywhere else.



It's mainly farms that start fires and THAT threatens the bush.



I'm personally not interested in mankind turning the whole planet into one giant farm. It's disgusting.


 :001_rolleyes:



You're too stupid for words...


So what, are you happy the planet's human idiots want the whole planet to be turned into one giant farm? Really? And you call me an idiot....lol
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: Anonymous on February 18, 2020, 11:10:04 AM
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "caskur"People shouldn't be living so close to native forests for starters.



The so called fuel on the ground is where native insects live and native lizards and is just as important as anywhere else.



It's mainly farms that start fires and THAT threatens the bush.



I'm personally not interested in mankind turning the whole planet into one giant farm. It's disgusting.

People can live next to forests. Forest fires will always happen. But, not following fire prevention methods natives practiced for centuries has proven to be a costly mistake.


When natives practiced burn offs (more likely accidental lightning strikes) there was 100% forest coverage... shitty farmers and shitty forestry have already taken 80% of Australia's forests.... Now I need for you to compute that.... 80 freaking %.... that means the remaining 20% needs to be preserved at ALL COSTS. Australia has already gotten the bad reputation of making extinct more birds and animals than any other continent on earth.



All those people who think they know what they are talking about need to pack their bags and go back to Europe or any other place they hailed from. Australia is not for them.

Our forest coverage is not that much different than two hundred years ago despite adding about thirty eight million people.
Title: Re: Australia wildfires
Post by: caskur on February 18, 2020, 11:25:35 AM
They decimated our forests.



The Jarrah in my state went to the UK for their railways.



Because Australia was an English colony, they thought they could just keep helping themselves to the timber.